The Simpsons Mafia - Game Thread

[[ManiC]]

EBWOP

I didn't say you were probably third party as I have no evidence to support that claim, I stated that you were potentially third party. Not quite as harsh of an accusation.

Your "My character was in the write up" statement however intrigues me. I didn't actually think of how that may help you figure roles out until you stated it, and now I can vaguely see how that piece of information may help (though this could still be lies).

I'll retract the suspicious pointing at Kris, I'm electing to trust the information given over my own ego.

[Kurt]

Jun 20, 2012 13:24:05 GMT -4 T-Marv said:

Kurt....

I tried to explain my train of thought...but I really can't do it well without divulging roles/characters. Here, let me try again....

If Kris knows my character.... Then she obviously visited me last night.

I'm assuming that the writeup actually depicted things that truly happened last night.

Therefore reading the writeup ....knowing that Kris visited me last night I just plugged our names into the character roles in the writeup and surmised who Kris was....character wise.

if Kris wishes...and it's not above the rules...she can certainly tell you who I am if she wants.

That's about the best I can do Kurt.

I'm not trying to skirt your question...just trying to answer it the best way.

I reread the write-up a little while ago, so I think I can follow you. As stated, I'm willing to accept your explanation unless proven information arises against one of you; so you're fine by me for now.

[T-Marv]

Turning my attention back to today....

Goodburn is definitely digging himself a hole but I'm starting to wonder if whether or not that's due more to inexperiance than being scum.

Serious question here.... what exactly does lynching him give us?


Here are my party aligned thoughts so far.... (again, these are just my opinions/viewpoints)

Town:

Tmarv
Kris

Probably Town:
Chaz (based on my visit to him last night...especially if the write up depicts actual events.)

Maybe Town:
Kurt (based purely on gameplay to this point and may change)
Keaton Saint (Just a vibe I get off of him)

Maybe Scum:
Goodburn (for reasons stated above)
Bacon (I dont like his day one play along with his sudden "James V is DEFINATELY town" statement that sounds like his formation of an alabi)

Suspicious:
Ths Soul.... Gameplay is a little wiggy to me. I could be way off on this one.
Anybody who is laying WAY low and staying WAY under the radar.

[T-Marv]

Inactive today: (unless I missed something)

Callahan
Branden
Blade
Rebel
Gabriel

Kinda inactive:
Jules (not normal for him)
Calvin (computer issues)

[T-Marv]

EBWOP

Gabriel IS MANIAC correct?

sorry, didn't catch that before. Scratch him off my inactive list.

[jasonandrews]

Just know that i have a ability that can well change a few things in each night phase and when i made my night action on who i thought was scum back fired on me and we lost a town and they both ended up being town so my mistake on that

[Kris]

Jun 20, 2012 13:35:26 GMT -4 T-Marv said:

Bacon (I dont like his day one play along with his sudden "James V is DEFINATELY town" statement that sounds like his formation of an alabi)

Would that also paint JamesV as being potentially suspicious? Or do you think that Bacon is merely aiming at someone that isn't scum, something he would know if he is?

...maybe I'm reading too much into it myself, eheh.

About all the more I do know, though, is that if Bacon's implied role is right... then why didn't he use it on himself night one to check for his level of competence? While I know that he's a relatively new player, one of the first games he played in-- if not the first!-- was one full of cops. Surely he should have known to do that... so I pose this question.

Why did you target JamesV instead of yourself, Bacon?

[jasonandrews]

Mainly because he thought i was a oppurtunist when i decided to put my vote on Chaz when he didnt want us to really have any activity day one which kinda threw a red flag for me so when the night phase came i just wanted to make sure James wasn't burnes or smithers in the end his orginal role was mayor quimbies i just thought it was funny how he though chaz was suspicious and when i voted for me he said i was suspicious because he thought it was being oppurtunisitc

[The Soul Of Philly]

Bacon, knuckles was Quimby so ur either a naive cop or u really do change stuff up

[Kris]

Playing Mafia with Bacon is like playing Mafia with Delirious. o.O

I am not going to lie-- I'm having a hard time piecing together just what you're trying to say here. If you switched things around, then how can you conclude that JamesV is town? I'm not really following your train of thought, here.

[goodburn]

I'm with Kris, if you don't know rather or not your a "real cop" (I don't know the correct term) it makes your role pointless until you test it on yourself. Perhaps something you should do tonight?

[Smash INC]

Jun 20, 2012 14:18:53 GMT -4 goodburn said:

I'm with Kris, if you don't know rather or not your a "real cop" (I don't know the correct term) it makes your role pointless until you test it on yourself. Perhaps something you should do tonight?

Nice to know you'll come back and point out the flaws of others without answering your own.

At this rate you'll need more than a shovel.

[jasonandrews]

What would be the point of switching my role what i f get something that couldn't help the town at all it is very risky!

[Michael Callahan]

Jun 20, 2012 14:18:53 GMT -4 goodburn said:

I'm with Kris, if you don't know rather or not your a "real cop" (I don't know the correct term) it makes your role pointless until you test it on yourself. Perhaps something you should do tonight?

While a valid point, from everything you've said so far and all the scum telling you've been doing it seems like this is more of an attempt to stop yourself and other potential scum-mates getting investigated.

[Kris]

Callahan brings up a good point, as does Keaton. Add onto that how you're doing everything you can to hide behind me and my line of questioning... and that's enough for me to change my F.o.S. into this.

Vote: Goodburn

[Kris]

Jun 20, 2012 14:36:33 GMT -4 jasonandrews said:

What would be the point of switching my role what i f get something that couldn't help the town at all it is very risky!

Switching your role? o.O

Okay, you've lost me. First you give hints about being a cop, and now somehow you know that James V is town from switching things around..?

How did you get to that conclusion?

[jasonandrews]

Why are you guys trying to throw me under the bus for a role that i never claimed that i had?

[jasonandrews]

EBOWP how did i hint that iw as a cop to begin with all i said was i can clear JamesV as a town because of my night action last night and how knuckles died

[Kurt]

Odd, I picked up Busdriver, not Cop from his claims. "Switching things around" sounds akin to bussing, meaning he could have switched JamesV and Knuckles. Doesn't make JamesV town necessarily since there's two factions, unless the write-up corroborates that.

Oh, and...

Vote: Goodburn

The whole cop fiasco seals it for me.

[Kris]

Jun 20, 2012 15:17:47 GMT -4 Kurt said:

Odd, I picked up Busdriver, not Cop from his claims. "Switching things around" sounds akin to bussing, meaning he could have switched JamesV and Knuckles. Doesn't make JamesV town necessarily since there's two factions, unless the write-up corroborates that.

Good point, and one that I should have thought of.

I freely admit to misunderstanding what Bacon was trying to say-- hence me asking for clarification so many times.

[T-Marv]

Jun 20, 2012 15:14:08 GMT -4 jasonandrews said:

EBOWP how did i hint that iw as a cop to begin with all i said was i can clear JamesV as a town because of my night action last night and how knuckles died

The only role that can 100% clear somebody is either a cop or a rolecop type role.

A tracker can see that the person did not make the kill....but that doesn't clear them from being scum.

A role blocker can tell whether or not somebody can make the kill (If they role blocked yet somebody still died, then they obviously aren't' the ones making the kill)

Certain other roles can confirm that a player does or does not have a certain type of role.

But the only one that can 100% clear someone is a cop. So if you're not a cop, then you need to clearify your statement.

[jasonandrews]

Can we just get on with this vote and thank you for understanding what i was saying Kurt

Unovte:Vote:Goodburn

[T-Marv]

Jun 20, 2012 15:32:27 GMT -4 jasonandrews said:

Can we just get on with this vote and thank you for understanding what i was saying Kurt

Unovte:Vote:Goodburn

WHAAAAAAATTTTT?

Do you see how scummy this is?

[President Jeff]

No time for a write up at the moment, but here is the vote count

VOTE COUNT

Kyle Goodburn (Keaton, Kris. Kurt, Bacon)


17 Alive, 9 votes to Lynch
Deadline Friday at 8pm EST

[jasonandrews]

I dont see how scummy it is ok i can switch roles for people like kurt said i just hate to role claim i switched knuckles and jamesv you seemed scummy for attacking chaz and now your coming at me because other people are

[T-Marv]

Jun 20, 2012 16:05:37 GMT -4 jasonandrews said:

I dont see how scummy it is ok i can switch roles for people like kurt said i just hate to role claim i switched knuckles and jamesv you seemed scummy for attacking chaz and now your coming at me because other people are

So that means James was targeted for the poison.... but still doesn't clear him as town as he could be 3rd party....but it is much more likely at this point.... provided that Bacon is telling the trouth.

That's also provided that Bacon is town as well... bus driver is commonly a scum/third party role as well.... Doubt he's scum though if he's telling the truth...makes no sense to busdrive the guy they're killing.

[Michael Callahan]

Vote: Bacon

Simply because he's making my skin crawl with that Goodburn vote.

[C.J. Gates]

Holy, go to work for 5 hours, come home and there's 4 new pages!

Jun 20, 2012 16:40:20 GMT -4 T-Marv said:

Jun 20, 2012 16:05:37 GMT -4 jasonandrews said:

I dont see how scummy it is ok i can switch roles for people like kurt said i just hate to role claim i switched knuckles and jamesv you seemed scummy for attacking chaz and now your coming at me because other people are

So that means James was targeted for the poison.... but still doesn't clear him as town as he could be 3rd party....but it is much more likely at this point.... provided that Bacon is telling the trouth.

That's also provided that Bacon is town as well... bus driver is commonly a scum/third party role as well.... Doubt he's scum though if he's telling the truth...makes no sense to busdrive the guy they're killing.

Well, no, it would mean that James was the original one targeted for the kill. If Knuckles was Quimby, and Quimby died via having his breaks cut, and Bacon switched James and Knuckles, that means James was original slated to be the one killed...OR at least, it's a possibility.

That said, I guess that could be how he says he could clear James as town. If he knew he switched Knuckles and James and Knuckles died, then James would have been targeted for death.

Of course this doesn't eliminate him from being anti-town, just sheds some light on what I assume Bacon is trying to say in his non-punctuated writing.

As for everything else..

What does lynching Goodburn give us? Nothing, really. Or at least, nothing until he started to dig himself a bit deeper. He hasn't exactly linked himself to anyone like you and Kris. At the least, it would remove an inexperienced newcomer? That's about it.

Bacon on the other hand, is trying to move past what he said...While not everyone is believing it, he tried to speed by his information with a vote on Goodburn, and the way he phrased it doesn't sit well with me.

I'm going to hold off on a vote though, so that I can re-read everything that has been said again.

[The Soul Of Philly]

Back home from work so I can type alot and quote:

Jun 20, 2012 16:40:20 GMT -4 T-Marv said:

So that means James was targeted for the poison.... but still doesn't clear him as town as he could be 3rd party....but it is much more likely at this point.... provided that Bacon is telling the trouth.

How does that mean James was targeted for the poison, I didn't get that out of the write-up, I got that Homer got poison and whoever is Doc took a guess on someone rather than protect themselves and got lucky.

Anyone feel free to correct me if I'm reading this completely wrong in my second game.

Jun 20, 2012 13:35:26 GMT -4 T-Marv said:

Here are my party aligned thoughts so far.... (again, these are just my opinions/viewpoints)

Town:

Tmarv
Kris

Probably Town:
Chaz (based on my visit to him last night...especially if the write up depicts actual events.)

Maybe Town:
Kurt (based purely on gameplay to this point and may change)
Keaton Saint (Just a vibe I get off of him)

Maybe Scum:
Goodburn (for reasons stated above)
Bacon (I dont like his day one play along with his sudden "James V is DEFINATELY town" statement that sounds like his formation of an alabi)

Suspicious:
Ths Soul.... Gameplay is a little wiggy to me. I could be way off on this one.
Anybody who is laying WAY low and staying WAY under the radar.

In here you kinda argue your own point right after the write up that Chaz may not be the killer, but that doesn't get him off of being a scum and then in this post you say that he is maybe town based on your visit.

Also, I agree with teh part of the quote that I didn't use that I think it's Goodburn just being a rookie, I know I am as well but he just dug himself a deep whole. That being said, I don't think he's scum based on the fact that I've taken what he's said as just being inexperienced.

Trying to read and understand what you and Kris are saying with trying not to reveal any roles/identities, but I think, going off the write-up and taking your word that you're town, I think I know who you are.

Honestly, I dunno about Bacon though so

F.o.S: Bacon

I think he's a compulsory voter only because he was the first to vote yesterday and just voted Goodburn because everyone else is.

I'm not setting a vote because 1, Goodburn can't die early in the game too, that's not nice to the noob, and 2, (the actual reason) if we just lynch him and he's town, we might put ourselves in the whole here.

Also, we're at 11 (as of the posting of this) pages, whats teh limit for the forum? 25?

[T-Marv]

er... I meant killed not poisoned. Sorry folks.