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Post by President Jeff on Jul 8, 2012 19:21:38 GMT -4
The show is now posted.
Thanks to Jules, Biggs, Kash, Noble, Callahan, Evan, AC, and Nick for writing matches
Thanks to Kash, Biggs, CJ, Evan, Callahan, Tmarv, Bailey, Yarmouth, and Delikado.
Also Thanks to Knuckles, AC and Stryker for segment, even though they didn’t make the show and they know why
I also want to thank Blade for the graphics
If I missed anyone, let me know so you can get your Ranking points.
Feedback is welcome, especially on the opening video, good or bad. Hopefully you all enjoy it. A lot of you like this PPV, I hate this PPV cause its hard to write stuff in advance for a tournament. Anyways, I don’t do this for me, I do this for you guys. So yah, leave your feedback
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Post by Phil Atken on Jul 8, 2012 20:04:38 GMT -4
Just some quick thoughts from the following along while in the chat:
- Match quality was astounding, I haven't read every match in 100% percent depths because there's just SO MUCH but I certainly plan on doing so. Gotta credit everyone here, the matches deserved quality and they certainly got it.
- Another loss WHY GOD WHY!!!!! The opener was amazing in the sense of the talent pool on the Overdrive side, at any other point in time you could easily see these guys in a final of the tournament but APW is hella stacked right now. Hella stacked. TOO STACKED. TOO MANY SCOTTISH PEOPLE.
- It's a same Mike and Chaz only managed one RP each. I felt Mike could've been a real dark horse and it's sad Chaz has had so much shit happen
- Knuckles and Sally deserved to be as competitive as hell. I don't ever judge in eW because I'd be a shit one but it's fun to just sit back and enjoy the side. This was always going to be a tough one for Knuckles
- But man, over on the Overdrive side on things. Jesus Christ, I'm glad I never had the inkling to join Overdrive because holy hell I'd drown with all the talent there. Stryker had a real admirable effort as Meltdown's sole rep, I heart Jules and everything that man does but Saint I think deservingly squeaked it.
- A. C. Smith tried but Marv is just has and continues to be on his game so badly at the moment.
- In a way, I'm glad Callahan retained because he seriously deserves the streak he's on. On the other hand he's a big doody head. YA HEAR THAT. YOU'RE A DOODY HEAD.
- Stellar showing by Meltdown and Envi. I know Meltdown was viewed as kinda of the development and starter fed in the initial plans of the thing but with talent like Carmen and Envi, I don't think anyone can say it didn't exceed expectations. Great win for Envi.
- Another battle for Saint and Marvin and after last time, I was certainly rooting for Saint to get the W over Marvin, just purely for vindication reasons. Wasn't to be but when you've got two strong showings, someone still has to win.
- Sally's move to the final was sadly inevitable due to the Morrison/Chaz situation. IT IS WHAT IT IS.
- You know, I feel bad that I haven't had a lot of upkeep on Overdrive recently. Not sure why. I still know Biggs and CJ is something special, the match was certainly something special. CJ finallys gets over his PPV hump, YAY. Clearly Biggs just needs to work a little bit more on his vocal talents. That's his big ticket!
- Sad that my damn special mute didn't get to showcase his ASTOUNDING POWERS as a lumberjack. Seriously though, Bailey and Kash for the title has been long awaited and I have to say it delivered. There was some real cute lumberjack spots in terms of Farq casual nature and the TRI shenanigagary and uprising against. Thankfully though, that didn't take away from the match at all. It added to it, it added to the spectacle and I have to congratulate Bailey on the big win. Dude deserves it. I know Kash has said he viewed his reign as some akin to a belt pillow but he's doing a great disservice to himself. On a different day, you would have a different result here, I guarantee it. You guys are matched well and I hope we do see a Shockwave rematch because it would be a coin-flip again.
- Again, Overdrive is not my expertise at the moment but even if it was with the aid of a world champion tag partner, it's nice to see Chris Hart get a little bit of a moment in the sun. Amazing that it happened considering the opposing side but it all loops back to my key point in this feedback, APW is just so packed just now that big names are going to lose because they're either going against big names or against people who are just as talented as any established APW name.
- I would like to commiserate Johnny Sally, Asylum's greatest hybrid wrestler for just coming up short against Marv. I said it earlier but man, Marv has and continue to be on a roll. We may very well have a title change on our hands at Shockwave.
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Post by Kevin Dahlia on Jul 8, 2012 20:20:15 GMT -4
BEFORE I post in-depth feedback, WOW. What a spectacular PPV event that was. The RP's were tremendous, the matches were lengthy and seat gripping. The promos were well written and well placed. Just wow. If this is what I have to look forward to in APW, I am excited as hell.
My only question for this whole thing is this: What happens to the NA title? The commentators themselves mentioned Envi on Overdrive at some point.
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Post by Shane Borderland on Jul 8, 2012 20:27:33 GMT -4
I have to say that was the best PPV that i have ever read. I have been in the efedding world awhile now and i have never read anything like that. Great rp's and like Wolves said, matches were lengthy and outstanding. Loved everything about the show, i am really stunned. Great job everyone!
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Post by President Jeff on Jul 8, 2012 20:53:10 GMT -4
My only question for this whole thing is this: What happens to the NA title? The commentators themselves mentioned Envi on Overdrive at some point. Whats the point of doing storylines and angles if I tell ya all the plans ;D
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Post by President Jeff on Jul 8, 2012 21:00:02 GMT -4
And how about that intro video, pretty sweet huh?
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Post by Phil Atken on Jul 8, 2012 21:09:22 GMT -4
Completely slipped my mind when I was typing that up. GREAT INTRO JEFF. YOU ARE THE SEXIEST MAN WITH THE VIDEO SKILLZ TO PAY THE BILLZ.
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Post by Jason Cashe on Jul 8, 2012 21:15:02 GMT -4
Needed more Kash Jeff..
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Post by President Jeff on Jul 8, 2012 21:17:39 GMT -4
Find me good video's of him on youtube
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Post by Shane Borderland on Jul 8, 2012 21:38:25 GMT -4
Intro video was spectacular Jeff! Kind of skipped it to read but went back and saw it, mad props bro.
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Post by Evan De Parker on Jul 8, 2012 21:40:02 GMT -4
I agree that the opening video was fantastic. Seriously-- a wonderful job, and I remember my eyes literally getting huge when I first clicked it. With that said, I want to say how much I loved reading Smith vs Marvin and the World Title Match. I didn't get to read Biggs vs CJ or the Tag Title match in their entirety, but I will do that sometime tonight and hopefully get around to posting a full review in the morning. I also have a few segments I need to catch up on. Damn shame that Morrison couldn't post a second RP. I loved his first and really wanted to see his character excel as an underdog in this T4TB, no offense to anyone else on the Asylum roster. And huge congrats to Terry Marvin for a well-deserved victory. But from what I've seen, everything was written in spectacular fashion. Cameron, I'm also interested in learning about what happens to the NA Title lol. Maybe I'll rep Meltdown for another year with the strap.
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Post by T-Marv on Jul 8, 2012 22:22:18 GMT -4
I will be back to comment on this later.....
But first I have to say what a SHOCK it is to see my name in the winners circle. I thought that surely somebody else on the Overdrive side was destined for finals glory. Hell, I thought AC Smith could have beaten me in the first round. BIG PROPS to everyone who rpd for TFTB. After reading, I didn't know who was going to win...I thought anywhere from stryker to Dionysus, to Saint or Smith and especially Sally or Knuckles (actually thought the winner out of that would win the whole F'N thing. But I didn't think for a second that I had what it took to win it. Everyone in that tournament should hold their heads very very high....I was impressed.
Again, I'll have more later.
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Post by Calvin Ingram on Jul 9, 2012 2:32:24 GMT -4
PPV was pretty good it's pretty late here hopefully i'll be able to promo for Asylum or whatever good thing I think T.R.I is done and that means I can have more camera time. I mean those guys were good but i'm just getting started. And like I said Callahan is ready for the world belt knew i'd prob lose but if I won that much sweeter as I know he'd prob go on to face Bailey.... I'm open for fued ideas. Well I don't wanna fued with Atken anything other than that i'm cool. I love Atken but I don't want to fued with ihm at this current itme. Full rp review when A. I'm up or B. In the near future if i'm back near a computer wit' net.
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Post by Jason Cashe on Jul 9, 2012 3:22:46 GMT -4
I'll tweet Mark Briscoe and let him know I need more videos...(This is the ONLY thing that sucks about using a Tag Team Indy guy) I loved the video, I loved the PPV. Even with me losing the World Title which I had actually been counting my lucky stars I still had to this point. I in no way am bothered by this as it both helps my storyline I'm kind of going with right now and helps get people looking at Asylum again. Big Long Reign coming to an end opens people's eyes.
Bailey did his thing and earned his strips even if I will cry about losing to a Drake picture base. Might need mental health for that ONE thing. As for the rest of the show, Knuckles coming up short all the time could possibly put him in the Hall Of Fame. I gave him some tips that he'll hopefully jump on and use because I think he can utilize his character more than he has been. Evan Envi retaining was a surprise, I figured he'd drop to move up to Overdrive but hey, maybe Cameron just didn't get the job done enough for judges so it's a crazy mystery most will scratch their heads with until the magic is revealed and we get to be giggity about the shit APW Staff gives us and it's always AWESOME.
Kurt Noble being Undisputed and Tag Champion? I swear I was told I couldn't hold a Top belt and the Tag at the same time. Oh no maybe it was I didn't HAVE A PARTNER...BORDERLAND, you fucker...Congrats to them both. I'll be hosting the Chris Hart becoming a Champion Party after Kash is released on bail tomorrow (I'm not really here, heh)
I called it TMarv, I fucking called it! I knew this was your time, those rps were just fucking brilliant. Little IRKED you didn't give Kash props for being a Lord in Asylum but hey, I'm no longer that so maybe you foreseen that! You are the Prom King in 2012 for APW. Hands down, fuck the rest, you've got this shit on lock and I for one CANNOT WAIT for TMarv Vs. Noble...DAMN, that sent chills up my spine.
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Post by Jules on Jul 9, 2012 5:27:08 GMT -4
First up, dearest thanks to our overlord President Jeff (not to mention his underlords Biggs and Johnny Rebel) on another tremendous organisational effort. We know you do this for us Jeff, and we love you for it. Nevertheless, you should proud of yourself too, you're without any doubt the finest fed head I've played the game with. Much kudos to every match writer. The dedication in this department in phenomenal and that every week lots of people are volunteering says everything about what they think about APW. Again, that's a testament to Jeff too. There were so many good write-ups, I'm not going to do a play-by-play, match-by-match run down but I will doff my cap to Mr. Biggs on his stellar match writing skills. My fave match was without doubt the Lumberjack Match, which I believe was mostly Biggs' work with a cameo effort from Kash. I loved all the Farquhar spots and that man will finally be very proud that tea-sipping made it into the ME of Asylum. As for the IC developments - first up congratulations have to go to Mr. Terry Marvin. I think I speak for most (if not everyone) in the tourney when I say I was disappointed, but not surprised in any way not to have won. On a personal level, I was pleased with my first RP, didn't like my second, so when I read Marv's first RP I knew it wasn't going to be Dionysus' year. This show was so stacked though that it was always going to be a tough one, and even going out early there is no shame being judged below Keaton Saint, who is one of my all-time favourite writers in e-fedding. I'll give notable mentions to Johnny Knuckles, who did a fine job and was a victim of circumstance (Sally v Knucks would have been a fine semi); well done to A.C. Smith who more than held his own and proved he can be a contender here; Steve Stryker surprised and impressed me too, so I hope we'll be seeing him on Overdrive soon; last but not least, a word to Sally, a fabulous writer and so consistent - does she become the de facto #1 contender? Congratulations to Anthony Bailey - hold on does this mean The Farq is now de facto #1 contender? - who has achieved great things in so little time. Commiserations to Kash, you should be very proud of what you've done for Asylum. I've always believed you've carried the torch for Asylum for six months and given the brand plenty of kudos while people like Bailey, Callahan, Dillinger, Knuckles have been busy building themselves as top-line stars. I know for a certainty you will be top of the pile again. I'm really pleased for Metro too on helping take the tag titles. Without doubt one of the most under-rated writers we have (or perfectly rated considering our very own Kurt Noble has him in his corner), as well as being a stand-up guy. However, that whole OverDrive = NobleDrive thing is getting closer and closer by the day. C.J. beating Biggs I wasn't totally surprised at. I'm not sure what the future is for Biggs, but if this was a temporary return then I understand C.J. going over. If Biggs is staying, I'd hoped he would pick up the win. All in all, Biggs made his presence felt in so little time. Great match. Great rivalry. Callahan winning didn't surprise me. Not so much because I don't rate Ingram, but because Callahan is obsessed with that title and claiming some make believe record (lol ). Callahan is doing his thing well though, and when he's had enough of saving foetuses I'm sure he'll had straight into a WT challenge. Well done to Evan Envi for cementing his place as Meltdown's first big draw. Look forward to seeing you on OverDrive. * So, well done to everyone, especially to the big winners in T-Marv and Bailey, and I'm looking forward to building towards Shockwave.
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Post by A.C. Smith on Jul 9, 2012 10:08:34 GMT -4
First of all, kudos to T-Marv for coming out on top. I hate losing, especially when I put a ton into this week, but if I'm gonna lose to anyone, it might as well be the champ. Congrats, buddy! I need to go back and reread it at some point, but a couple other thoughts while I'm here: - I've already said this in the love thread, but big ups to everyone who RP'd for TFTB. There wasn't a bad one in the bunch, and I thought a couple of the matches were legit toss-ups. As I've mentioned a few times, I'm flattered to have been involved with a ton of really good writers who all brought it this week. - Good job to Envi for defending his title and getting drafted to Overdrive. Hmm, I can't POSSIBLY see any old rivalries that could be dug up with this move... - Congrats to Bailey for winning the WH title, and to NobleHart for winning the tag belts. I really enjoyed reading both matches.
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Post by michaelharris on Jul 9, 2012 13:28:49 GMT -4
Here we go...
First and foremost, everything involving the ppv was great. From top to bottom there was great match write ups. Every match that was hyped up to be something big lived up to the expectations that it was meant to live up too.
The Test for the Best tournament has finally come to an end and it doesn't really shock me that Marvin ended up winning. Big congrats to him. It was really one of those things that could have gone either way with some of the people that were in there. Marvin deserves the win especialyl with busting his behind as much as he has with the character.
I personally was pulling for Kash to retain the WHC. I just happen to like the character lol. This was probably my favorite match on the entire card, right behind the Main Event for Test for the Best. I feel it lived up to what it should have, the lumberjacks were used well, and the match overall just came around to be everything it should have been.
In the couple months that I have been here. I feel like this is my favorite ppv that I have been apart of / got to read. It's just so huge and it means so much to the fed as well as those that end up being involved with the tournament. I personally can't wait till next year when it rolls around again and I hope I can end up going further with things lol. Anyway great ppv.
Only thing I personally have a problem with, and it just could be me here. I have a slight problem with Sykes taking the pin fall. Out of the entire Asylum team, myself and Atkens are the only ones that showed up. Therefore in my opinion one of the people that didn't show should have taken the pin fall. That's just how I have always done it / always known for it to go. But like I said it could just be me.
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Post by Jason Cashe on Jul 9, 2012 13:34:17 GMT -4
Whats funny is I was pulling for myself too! Haha! Thanks Harris and I'm very entertained by the way things went down. Kash talked alot of shit, committed a crime to get into his opponent's head and Bailey played it cool like a fresh pillow. He smothered me with that said pillow...Can't hate on that at all.
I agree that the no showers should have taken the pin but the matches usually get written early so it happens.
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Post by Reaver on Jul 9, 2012 13:42:42 GMT -4
what can b said that hasnt already been said?
terry did PHENOMENAL!! totally well deserved. i understand there was some controversy but w/e. id love a singles match against sally at some point so theres that.
killer PPV over all and i think this needs to be said.....
the best part of the PPV (any ppv) are the match writers. this place would crumble if it werent for their detail and dedication. job well done guys. from the opening match to the lumber jack atch all the way to the finals, AMAZING!!
APW really is the best place. the best atmosphere, the best feuds. there r some big names in efedding but who else could feud like APW? everybody here puts in so much effort just to make it to the awards show at the end of the yr and i do not envy the people who have to pick and choose a select few matches out of a yrs worth of feuds to make it to the top.
how is it possible that every PPV gets 1 up'd? is there not a ceiling? I LOVE IT!!
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Post by Jason Cashe on Jul 9, 2012 18:13:37 GMT -4
The controversy was the GFX, that's about it as far as I know..
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Post by Jules on Jul 9, 2012 18:16:25 GMT -4
FREE KNUCKLES!
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Post by Jason Cashe on Jul 9, 2012 18:19:21 GMT -4
Kash is the one that got arrested!! Out on bail now but damn!
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Post by Anthony Bailey on Jul 9, 2012 20:11:21 GMT -4
Man oh man, where do I even start? T4TB was an epic PPV but I'd like to thank Kash for making me look like a million bucks. All props to him for working and developing the storyline into what it became. He also caused me to raise the bar which is always good because you never want to settle or grow content with your RP writing. I always want to evolve and get better with my writing and working with people like Kash makes that process so much easier because he gave me so much to work with. Thanks once again my man.
Farq and others nailed it with the more detailed feedback, but everybody did a great job! Winners, losers, match writers, etc. Everyone held it down and continued to show why this fed is truly #1. My favorite parts of the night were the Lumberjack match, Envi/Rivera, Gates/Biggs, and the T4TB finals. The whole show was great but these stood out to me personally. Callahan is still the king of segments IMO, his was great!!
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Post by biggs on Jul 9, 2012 20:43:40 GMT -4
Finally had a chance to read the show start to finish, and I got to say, other than some formatting issues and typos, it was just about as good a ppv as you're going to see in e-fedding. I'm not going to do a full match-by-match rundown, but rather, mention stuff that stood out to me. -Much like Sykes said, one of the no shows should have taken the pinfall. Whenever I write multiman matches like that, I always pick the people who have historically shown that they're unreliable in the pinning prediciments. -I loved the fact that the PPV proper started with the Triple Threat. It was the most exciting first round match, and got the show started with a bang. That being said, I feel bad for Knuckles that he drew Sally in the first round, because otherwise, he would have advanced. -Callahan vs. Ingram was fun for what it was, but considering it was literally last minute build, it had the least chance of being the breakout match of the night. Still, good stuff from both guys RP wise. -Evan Envi and Carmen Rivera brought it for sure! I loved the match, loved all the false finishes, and the like. Worked really well despite the fact that it was heel vs. heel. -Second round matches were both well done. I was pulling for Keaton, but sometimes, you just get in a feud, and it feels like somebody has got your number! -Speaking of somebody having my number, Ceej, I had a feeling after I posted my RP that you were going to win, your trash talk was so much better than mine. It's always a pleasure to feud with you, C.J., despite the fact that I just can't seem to beat you! If anyone would like to give some more specific feedback on the match, that would be very appreciated. -I'll be honest, as I was writing the Lumberjack Match, I was getting frusterated. Maybe it's the fact that I'm my own worst critic, but I hated what I was writing. I'm glad it got such a good reception. Also, congrats, Bailey on defeating Kash! Just don't get to comfortable with that belt, because as you've probably seen with the next Asylum Card, there's a lot of top shelf talent gunning for you now! -Tag Match, congrats to the new Champs. It'll be interesting to see what Shockwave holds in store for Hart, because Kurt will have his hands full with TMarv. -TftB Finals were off the hook! Big congrats to TMarv for the win, and congrats to Sally for making it that far. I can't think of any other person who's made the finals twice, so even just getting that far again is a testament to your talent. The bottom line is that this has been the year of Terry Marvin. Overdrive is his world, and we're just living in it! Overall thoughts on the show are that the matches flowed well, the segs were well spread out and they all worked in the context of the show. Shockwave is going to have to be a doozy to top this one!
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Post by C.J. Gates on Jul 9, 2012 23:25:45 GMT -4
LOVED the show. It's been said, but man...this was a great freaking show. I don't know what put it over the top, whether it was the load of talent in the tournament, the compelling storylines that helped a lot of the matches, or the fantastic match writing but this was one great PPV. On that note, I won't do a match by match or anything, just going to make some notes/comments. -Props to Jeff for getting the show out and putting together another great card/event. There is so much talent in APW right now that it's almost criminal, yet a lot of them are finding their way with storylines and whatnot to get on the PPVs, and not just in throwaway matches either. -Kudos to all the match writers. Bailey/Kash was a great read, as was the tag title match and Envi/Rivera. I'm going to be selfish and give special props to Biggs for the Biggs/Gates match, though. There was a line of commentary during the match about how the match was six months in the making and lived up to the hype. Reading it, it definitely did, and was well done. Gripped me in and kept be going throughout. -On that topic, my hat is off to you once more, Biggs. It's always fun to work with you, especially with our characters. We've got so much history and our characters are so similar yet different, the matches and storytelling are great. Definitely looking forward to what lies beyond -Since you asked for it: The match. What I loved about it, was how you incorporated Ellie into it, since that was a big part of the storyline. The way she interacted with Gates and Biggs throughout was great and definitely added something to the match. I also liked how you played up the holds Gates was doing, touching on how he must have been working on them. There were a lot of good spots, and each one of us seemed to get a good amount of offense. You always make good use of the crowd, too, which is a great thing as well. Overall, loved the match. MIGHT just have done what the aim was and surpassed the Iron Man -Glad Callahan won. The fact that someone is actually doing something positive with the Suicidal/Pro Life title is awesome, because it became a bit of a non-factor after Rico lost it. Keep that title going strong, my friend! -Congrats to Noble-Hart. Never easy beating a duo like L1 and Rebel, though you two did. Will be interesting though, to see how things play out with the tag team titles going into Shockwave, since Noble is busy. -Bigger congrats go out to Anthony Bailey though. You have definitely come a long way since the beginning and have become one of the tops. With the win over Kash, you definitely took a step into the top tier on Asylum and joined the likes of James Chambers and Jason Kash as World Heavyweight champion. Awesome job! -I feel like I want to congratulate everyone! lol -Though, truly, I think the man of the night is Terry Marvin. I know what it feels to be in your position right now, and it's not easy to be there. You've been on quite the roll and it's a well deserved win. A definite sign that this time around, you've brought your A+ game and you aren't giving in to anyone. A force to be reckoned with! All in all, great job by everyone. Loving the stories going on, and I can't wait to see how things cook going into Shockwave.
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Post by C.J. Gates on Jul 9, 2012 23:37:26 GMT -4
Nearly forgot, the intro video!
I loved the involvement of everyone. My favorite moment of that video might have been Mike Morrison's bit...looked like he was talking to himself and going all crazy which is perfect!
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Post by Chris Strike on Jul 10, 2012 16:44:52 GMT -4
Y'know, from an outsider's perspective, something I've always found APW does amazingly well are their PPV's...I've had the pleasure of reading through the last two and kept my eye on the place since Kyle and James (your new tag team champs...which, yeah, props to you both amigos!) joined the fray. Kudos to the writing staff, President Jeff and everyone involved in the process.
Matches had a big time feeling to them, segments delivered, results were had, landscapes have been changed, T-Marv scares me just a bit (please God, let me not run into him in the elimination rounds at the ET if we both get that far <_<) and well, to keep it short and simple, you guys do work. Keep doing work. YEAH!!! =D
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Post by Johnny Rebel on Jul 11, 2012 21:35:44 GMT -4
Fantastic card all...I don't have anything new to add that hasn't been said.
Big props to Noble and Chris Hart. I mentioned earlier in a previous thread that Chris Hart basically carried this while real life got in the way and those two absolutely deserved there win. I have no shame in losing to such incredible writers!
With that being said...my RPing life is slowly coming to an end. I have done everything I swore I wouldn't do and become completely burnt out. RP'ing in two places, running a brand and participating in Expert's events have taken their toll. You probably won't see Rebel on Overdrive for quite awhile. Never fear, I'm not leaving APW and will continue running Meltdown until Jeff tells me I can't anymore but it may be awhile before you see Rebel throwing it down on Thursdays again.
*ADDED: I meant to add this...I hope you all know me well enough to know this isn't sour grapes! I've never been in it for the W/L and hope I've proven that!
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Post by Jason Cashe on Jul 11, 2012 23:11:50 GMT -4
This deserves is own thread Rebel. Do yourself and the character that justice man.
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Post by Reaver on Jul 12, 2012 1:12:29 GMT -4
Fantastic card all...I don't have anything new to add that hasn't been said. Big props to Noble and Chris Hart. I mentioned earlier in a previous thread that Chris Hart basically carried this while real life got in the way and those two absolutely deserved there win. I have no shame in losing to such incredible writers! With that being said...my RPing life is slowly coming to an end. I have done everything I swore I wouldn't do and become completely burnt out. RP'ing in two places, running a brand and participating in Expert's events have taken their toll. You probably won't see Rebel on Overdrive for quite awhile. Never fear, I'm not leaving APW and will continue running Meltdown until Jeff tells me I can't anymore but it may be awhile before you see Rebel throwing it down on Thursdays again. *ADDED: I meant to add this...I hope you all know me well enough to know this isn't sour grapes! I've never been in it for the W/L and hope I've proven that! i think i speak for everybody when i say that you dont owe anybody anything. we love you and appreciate you in EVERY WAY so if you want something, youve earned it with no excuses or permission. do watcha gotta do man.
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