Horror Movie Mafia!! (Day 6)

[T-Marv]

Aug 9, 2012 23:20:31 GMT -4 Michael Callahan said:

Fuck it. I'll bite.

Manic, what information do you have that could justify a Kurt Noble lynch? Saying "I have information" and then slamming a vote down is not a great way to get a lynch-wagon going. Although saying that, TJ and T-Marv both jumped on that shit like white on rye so maybe I'm just naive about my standards when it comes to voting for someone.

So, yeah. Explain your vote a little better than "I has informations" please and I might be inclined to join you. I'm tempted anyway on the grounds that if Noble turns up town, we have three potential suspects.

Cheers!

At this point in the game "I have information that he's scum" is good enough for me. Town is winning, numbers wise. And he doesn't want to out himself. He obviously has night information and it's against the rules to say exactly what it is (role claiming)

Maybe when Noble comes up Scum... we have another potential suspect... YOU!

reasons?

1. stalling a lynch on a suspected scum.

2. attempting to get a townie to out his role.

[Kris]

EBWOP: I also second Callahan's call for further explanation from ManiC before I lay my vote down and follow his lead.

[Kurt]

Thought I would wait to see who jumped on my bandwagon before coming out with what I have. Thought it might come in handy to see who was willing to follow the first piece of "info" that arose.

Before I elaborate, I want to say that I'm not going to sit here and use an ad hominem on Manic to try and discredit him. I don't know what information he has on me, and I'm not going to knock him for the way he's releasing it. It's smart, honestly. I can't claim "your info is wrong!" because I don't know what it is, or any elements that may have affected it, like misdirection or a frame. So, I don't really have anything to say there except to ask the town to hear me out.

I hate to out you bud, but I don't really have a choice here. I know Freddy visited you Tmarv, and I know what your ability is, although your subliminal hints don't exactly make it the kind of secret that's locked away with a key. I was the person that protected you, and learned your character because of it...so the write-up 100% confirmed Freddy attempted to kill you last night. We can wait to see if someone else claims the protection if you think I'm lying though.

So, I know you're not a killer/cult. I also don't believe Manic is either, because of the way he's presenting himself. Honestly, of all the active players, JamesV is the one alarming me the most. He was very adamant of TJ's alignment early on, and now he's "obviously town," but I'm not following the logic there. It's just coming off as a way to start leading the town, but I'm not sold on it.

Plus, anytime someone puts themselves on a list of town, I feel like it's a play. You can evaluate everyone else, but let everyone else evaluate you. "I'm town!" is such a non-defense that it comes off as hollow.

Glad I waited to see who was on my bandwagon. It's provided some much needed clarity.

[T-Marv]

Aug 9, 2012 23:47:26 GMT -4 Kurt said:

Thought I would wait to see who jumped on my bandwagon before coming out with what I have. Thought it might come in handy to see who was willing to follow the first piece of "info" that arose.

Before I elaborate, I want to say that I'm not going to sit here and use an ad hominem on Manic to try and discredit him. I don't know what information he has on me, and I'm not going to knock him for the way he's releasing it. It's smart, honestly. I can't claim "your info is wrong!" because I don't know what it is, or any elements that may have affected it, like misdirection or a frame. So, I don't really have anything to say there except to ask the town to hear me out.

I hate to out you bud, but I don't really have a choice here. I know Freddy visited you Tmarv, and I know what your ability is, although your subliminal hints don't exactly make it the kind of secret that's locked away with a key. I was the person that protected you, and learned your character because of it...so the write-up 100% confirmed Freddy attempted to kill you last night. We can wait to see if someone else claims the protection if you think I'm lying though.

So, I know you're not a killer/cult. I also don't believe Manic is either, because of the way he's presenting himself. Honestly, of all the active players, JamesV is the one alarming me the most. He was very adamant of TJ's alignment early on, and now he's "obviously town," but I'm not following the logic there. It's just coming off as a way to start leading the town, but I'm not sold on it.

Plus, anytime someone puts themselves on a list of town, I feel like it's a play. You can evaluate everyone else, but let everyone else evaluate you. "I'm town!" is such a non-defense that it comes off as hollow.

Glad I waited to see who was on my bandwagon. It's provided some much needed clarity.

K... I got what I wanted out of that.

unvote

If anyone counter claims, my vote will go right back on, unless I think/know they're full of shit.

I would really like to know who COULDN'T be the killer(s). There are two people out there who know this, and I'm one of them.

I know James isn't Jason.

Who else is cleared?

[Kris]

Aug 9, 2012 23:47:26 GMT -4 Kurt said:

Honestly, of all the active players, JamesV is the one alarming me the most. He was very adamant of TJ's alignment early on, and now he's "obviously town," but I'm not following the logic there.

You raise a good point. Care to explain, JamesV?

[T-Marv]

I'm starting this day off really shitty.

I appologize for my awful play guys. I'm gonna hit the sack and then try again tomorrow.

[Michael Callahan]

Aug 9, 2012 23:45:56 GMT -4 T-Marv said:

Aug 9, 2012 23:20:31 GMT -4 Michael Callahan said:

Fuck it. I'll bite.

Manic, what information do you have that could justify a Kurt Noble lynch? Saying "I have information" and then slamming a vote down is not a great way to get a lynch-wagon going. Although saying that, TJ and T-Marv both jumped on that shit like white on rye so maybe I'm just naive about my standards when it comes to voting for someone.

So, yeah. Explain your vote a little better than "I has informations" please and I might be inclined to join you. I'm tempted anyway on the grounds that if Noble turns up town, we have three potential suspects.

Cheers!

At this point in the game "I have information that he's scum" is good enough for me. Town is winning, numbers wise. And he doesn't want to out himself. He obviously has night information and it's against the rules to say exactly what it is (role claiming)

Maybe when Noble comes up Scum... we have another potential suspect... YOU!

reasons?

1. stalling a lynch on a suspected scum.

2. attempting to get a townie to out his role.

LMAO. No. Sorry Terry but that's not going to fly here.

As we've seen by you changing your tone, I had every reason to argue that Kurt Noble might not be scum because there's very little evidence to support it. The argument that "we're winning" as a justification for a rushed lynch with no evidence is the worst scum tell I've ever seen and if it weren't for the fact you've supposedly cleared yourself according to Kurt, I'd be putting my vote on you. Getting lucky with mod and night-kills is no reason to take your foot off the pedal and start throwing away town roles.

As for me? If not pushing a lynch because Manic apparently has information that says Kurt's da bad guy without any properly explained evidence makes me scum then string me right up because I am guilty as sin.

[Jason Cashe]

The write up was horse shit! Not only did Myers tell me he does like me by using the "Asylum Kick" but then he fucking dies? Horse Shit! I don't ask to be in these write ups and as far as it shows I play more comedic roles. If I was targeting people and they ended up dying where was Level One in that mix? He died and I never targeted him but did target TMarv and he's alive. For the simple fact that I've explained my rookie mistakes I've made during this game (A few actually) I withdrew my ignorance in targeting someone for their lack of activity. However the increasingly activeness of Kris targeting me makes me in turn suspect of her.

F.o.S: Kris

Fair?

[T-Marv]

As i already said. I'm playing shitty today and not thinking things through.

No reason to keep harping on me.

[The Soul Of Philly]

I'll just say this, I know what three of you did last night (MUAHAHAHA) And who you did it to. Given what I know, my vote stays with Kurt because I'm more inclined that it wasn't Kurt who protected T-Marv rather he was the one who went to kill him.

That said, UnF.o.s: Kris

F.o.S: JamesV

I'm tending to believe that James isn't a SK based on what T-Marv has said but thta doesn't mean he's not the lone cultist.

And it's cool Marv, I played like shit the first day and I knew it the entire time.

[Michael Jennings]

First off let me say Kris, you have no room to be telling anyone to explain anything with the way you've been playing. I think you're the last cultist, bottom line. Getting that out of the way. There's NO WAY Kash is either Jason or Freddy so the fact you are trying to get the focus onto him is setting off a TON of alarm bells with me.

Next leads me to TMarv. He is correct. I am not Jason nor am I Freddy or the last remaining cultist.

Now to Noble. Funny how you come out and say that you protected Tmarv when you have heat on you. Nice way of outing your ability there. Great town play there unless it's a safe claim since scum, you know, get safe claims in these games. Also in your little statement you essentially cleared me because I was blocked. How can I attack him when I am blocked? Explain that one because there's no way I can be blocked and be Freddy and yet be stopped from killing him by you at the same time. If I was then Tmarv's character would've stopped me instead of being saved by an outside party.

And have you even been reading the game thread? It's obvious via people outing their info who is town. I was wrong about TJ but yet you conveniently forget him backing up that Tmarv blocked me which is suspicious in itself. The only thing seeing who was on your bandwagon proved is seeing who is paying attention to people who have information that is credible which CLEARLY you haven't been doing otherwise you'd know why I think TJ is an obvious town player and changed my opinion. Nice job at drawing at straws there and trying to turn everything back on me. You are not cleared of being anything and Mani got a guilty read on you. You're not going to weasel your way out of this before he gets online and elaborates on what info he has, I think he's caught a non-town player and that is why I am voting you, period. End of story. I don't think you're town and I believe that his info is correct. Also did you ever stop and think you might not be the only protection role in the game? Could be a safe claim you're using for all we know. Convenient one at that considering that Mani said he had information that you were not town and magically you protected Tmarv the night Freddy tried to kill him. Not buying it.

TJ, I am not the cultist. If there is a lie detector in the game please lie detect that statement because it will come up as truthful.

[Jason Cashe]

What he said..

[[ManiC]]

Aug 9, 2012 23:47:26 GMT -4 Kurt said:

Before I elaborate, I want to say that I'm not going to sit here and use an ad hominem on Manic to try and discredit him. I don't know what information he has on me, and I'm not going to knock him for the way he's releasing it. It's smart, honestly. I can't claim "your info is wrong!" because I don't know what it is, or any elements that may have affected it, like misdirection or a frame. So, I don't really have anything to say there except to ask the town to hear me out.

This along with your later explanations of why you may be innocent actually directs me towards you being truthful. My information did come from a night-action, though it is very possible that the legitimacy of the night-action may have been tampered with (though it didn't show up in the write up I suppose it doesn't have to). That said, even if I'm inclined to believe you, I don't think it clears you entirely.

Unvote: Noble
F.o.S.: Noble

I'm waiting for someone to attempt to counter claim you until you're completely cleared in my eyes.

[Kris]

Aug 10, 2012 1:31:35 GMT -4 Michael Jennings said:

There's NO WAY Kash is either Jason or Freddy/quote]

And how are you so certain of that, mm?

You know, for someone that's going off on me for my play style... you sure have been avoiding answering my perfectly valid questions. So allow me to ask them again.

1) What made you change your mind on TJ when you were spouting off about how he was suspicious?
2) How do you know that Kash isn't Jason or Freddy?

Personally, I think that you're railing so hard on me because I'm disagreeing with you and questioning the reasons why you're doing things... and you know what they say about the ones that doth protest too much.

UnF.O.S.: Kash

F.o.S.: JamesV

Congratulations, between you falsely attributing things that I never said to me and you dodging my questions because 'I have no room to be telling anyone to explain themselves'-- yet another false claim since I've made a point of asking rather than commanding-- which also stifles discussion? You've just proven yourself to be extremely suspicious.

[Kris]

EBWOP: ...and huzzah coding flub. Hopefully, the point still gets across.

[Kurt]

Aug 10, 2012 0:26:33 GMT -4 The Soul Of Philly said:

I'll just say this, I know what three of you did last night (MUAHAHAHA) And who you did it to. Given what I know, my vote stays with Kurt because I'm more inclined that it wasn't Kurt who protected T-Marv rather he was the one who went to kill him.

That said, UnF.o.s: Kris

F.o.S: JamesV

I'm tending to believe that James isn't a SK based on what T-Marv has said but thta doesn't mean he's not the lone cultist.

And it's cool Marv, I played like shit the first day and I knew it the entire time.

Fair enough.

Now to Noble. Funny how you come out and say that you protected Tmarv when you have heat on you. Nice way of outing your ability there. Great town play there unless it's a safe claim since scum, you know, get safe claims in these games.

What was I supposed to do James? Sit her and go "Gee guys, please don't lynch me, I'm totally town! I have information about last night, but I don't want to share it because it would put a target on my back!" It's a damned if I did, damned if I didn't scenario. And I very clearly said I waited to see who was going to be on my bandwagon. I was logged on essentially the entire few hours after Knuckles posted the write-up.

Also in your little statement you essentially cleared me because I was blocked. How can I attack him when I am blocked? Explain that one because there's no way I can be blocked and be Freddy and yet be stopped from killing him by you at the same time. If I was then Tmarv's character would've stopped me instead of being saved by an outside party.

...I never you said you were a killer. Show me where I said that. I said your play has alarmed me. There *is* one cultist left though, so if I absolutely had to label you with a remaining anti-town role, that's what I would label you as.

And have you even been reading the game thread? It's obvious via people outing their info who is town. I was wrong about TJ but yet you conveniently forget him backing up that Tmarv blocked me which is suspicious in itself.

You use the word obvious, but I don't see it that way. I noticed he said he could back up Tmarv's claim, but that isn't a full clear and you know it. He was quick to get on your bandwagon, hopped off when Tmarv quit, and then jumped on mine a couple of posts later. I don't have a full read on TJ, so I'm not going to throw around words like "obvious" when there's very little obvious about this kind of game.

Nice job at drawing at straws there and trying to turn everything back on me. You are not cleared of being anything and Mani got a guilty read on you.

I never said I was cleared. I'm not. I'm also not putting words in Mani's mouth. I don't know what info he has on me exactly. Seriously, why are you trying to put words in my mouth?

You're not going to weasel your way out of this before he gets online and elaborates on what info he has, I think he's caught a non-town player and that is why I am voting you, period. End of story. I don't think you're town and I believe that his info is correct. Also did you ever stop and think you might not be the only protection role in the game? Could be a safe claim you're using for all we know. Convenient one at that considering that Mani said he had information that you were not town and magically you protected Tmarv the night Freddy tried to kill him. Not buying it.

I honestly get the sense that I could have posted any credible info in my defense, and you'd be damning me for it. You've clearly already made your mind up about me. And no, I don't think I'm the only protection role in this game...which is why I said wait and see if I'm counterclaimed. You yourself said it was "obvious" someone protected Tmarv...because I did. If you think I'm bullshitting, all you have to do is wait for someone to say I'm bullshitting. That's it.

I don't like your arguments against me. I never accused you of being a killer. I never said I was cleared, or claiming to know what Mani's info is. I never claimed to be the only protecting role either. Of everyone on my wagon, you're the most adamant. I know you play aggressively, but there's a difference in playing aggressively and stuffing words in my mouth.

FoS: JamesV

[Kurt]

Aug 10, 2012 6:36:16 GMT -4 [ManiC] said:

Aug 9, 2012 23:47:26 GMT -4 Kurt said:

Before I elaborate, I want to say that I'm not going to sit here and use an ad hominem on Manic to try and discredit him. I don't know what information he has on me, and I'm not going to knock him for the way he's releasing it. It's smart, honestly. I can't claim "your info is wrong!" because I don't know what it is, or any elements that may have affected it, like misdirection or a frame. So, I don't really have anything to say there except to ask the town to hear me out.

This along with your later explanations of why you may be innocent actually directs me towards you being truthful. My information did come from a night-action, though it is very possible that the legitimacy of the night-action may have been tampered with (though it didn't show up in the write up I suppose it doesn't have to). That said, even if I'm inclined to believe you, I don't think it clears you entirely.

Unvote: Noble
F.o.S.: Noble

I'm waiting for someone to attempt to counter claim you until you're completely cleared in my eyes.

I appreciate the wait. That's all I'm asking for.

Also, the deadline in the first post says Saturday 6 PM, which would only make this a 48 hour day phase. Mod error?

[Reaver]

yes sorry my fault....its supposed to say SUNDAY i will edit

[blackdeath]

actually still want to hear what you have Manic ...

[Michael Jennings]

Aug 10, 2012 7:35:58 GMT -4 Kris said:

Aug 10, 2012 1:31:35 GMT -4 Michael Jennings said:

There's NO WAY Kash is either Jason or Freddy/quote]

And how are you so certain of that, mm?

You know, for someone that's going off on me for my play style... you sure have been avoiding answering my perfectly valid questions. So allow me to ask them again.

1) What made you change your mind on TJ when you were spouting off about how he was suspicious?
2) How do you know that Kash isn't Jason or Freddy?

Personally, I think that you're railing so hard on me because I'm disagreeing with you and questioning the reasons why you're doing things... and you know what they say about the ones that doth protest too much.

UnF.O.S.: Kash

F.o.S.: JamesV

Congratulations, between you falsely attributing things that I never said to me and you dodging my questions because 'I have no room to be telling anyone to explain themselves'-- yet another false claim since I've made a point of asking rather than commanding-- which also stifles discussion? You've just proven yourself to be extremely suspicious.

Speaking of dodging you can't dodge this...

Aug 9, 2012 19:59:11 GMT -4 Kris said:

...fucking Pennywise. I hate clowns. Good thing that one's kicked the bucket, eh? (At least, it is for me.) It's a shame to be losing Lester, though. Also, it looks like Kash voting for Envi, for whatever reason... actually would have turned out to be a good lynch to follow up on, although I still find the reasoning to be suspect.

Anyway, with what's been shown... we've got two serial killers-- Jason and Freddy-- left, along with a cultist still kicking about. Can we safely say that there aren't going to be anymore popping up? I'm not entirely sure. What I am sure of, though, is this.

F.o.S - Kash

This is a definite carry over from yesterday. I think that it's just the luck of the draw that the person he tried to start a bandwagon on turned out to be Michael Myers. Since the SKs are working individually as told by the write-up, I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't turn out to be Jason... but that's just a theory, one that I've not enough information on to vote on.

So Kash's character is a fanboy yet you think he is a serial killer yet Jason cannot speak and he obviusly isn't Freddy so you're FOSing him because...

That makes no sense to me at all. Now for your accusation that I'm dodging your questions...you mean this ONE wole question that you took from someone else? That question?

Aug 9, 2012 23:56:28 GMT -4 Kris said:

Aug 9, 2012 23:47:26 GMT -4 Kurt said:

Honestly, of all the active players, JamesV is the one alarming me the most. He was very adamant of TJ's alignment early on, and now he's "obviously town," but I'm not following the logic there.

You raise a good point. Care to explain, JamesV?

Did you even read my entire response to Noble? Apparently not because if you did it was in there. And speaking of Noble you've been buddying up to him an awful lot here this day phase. Care to explain that? Because Buddying is a scum tactic that is used. It's when a scum player starts to agree with everything a town player says in the game to avoid detection and you are doing a lot of it.

Now to Noble...

Aug 10, 2012 9:29:39 GMT -4 Kurt said:

Aug 10, 2012 0:26:33 GMT -4 The Soul Of Philly said:

I'll just say this, I know what three of you did last night (MUAHAHAHA) And who you did it to. Given what I know, my vote stays with Kurt because I'm more inclined that it wasn't Kurt who protected T-Marv rather he was the one who went to kill him.

That said, UnF.o.s: Kris

F.o.S: JamesV

I'm tending to believe that James isn't a SK based on what T-Marv has said but thta doesn't mean he's not the lone cultist.

And it's cool Marv, I played like shit the first day and I knew it the entire time.

Fair enough.



What was I supposed to do James? Sit her and go "Gee guys, please don't lynch me, I'm totally town! I have information about last night, but I don't want to share it because it would put a target on my back!" It's a damned if I did, damned if I didn't scenario. And I very clearly said I waited to see who was going to be on my bandwagon. I was logged on essentially the entire few hours after Knuckles posted the write-up.



...I never you said you were a killer. Show me where I said that. I said your play has alarmed me. There *is* one cultist left though, so if I absolutely had to label you with a remaining anti-town role, that's what I would label you as.



You use the word obvious, but I don't see it that way. I noticed he said he could back up Tmarv's claim, but that isn't a full clear and you know it. He was quick to get on your bandwagon, hopped off when Tmarv quit, and then jumped on mine a couple of posts later. I don't have a full read on TJ, so I'm not going to throw around words like "obvious" when there's very little obvious about this kind of game.



I never said I was cleared. I'm not. I'm also not putting words in Mani's mouth. I don't know what info he has on me exactly. Seriously, why are you trying to put words in my mouth?

You're not going to weasel your way out of this before he gets online and elaborates on what info he has, I think he's caught a non-town player and that is why I am voting you, period. End of story. I don't think you're town and I believe that his info is correct. Also did you ever stop and think you might not be the only protection role in the game? Could be a safe claim you're using for all we know. Convenient one at that considering that Mani said he had information that you were not town and magically you protected Tmarv the night Freddy tried to kill him. Not buying it.

I honestly get the sense that I could have posted any credible info in my defense, and you'd be damning me for it. You've clearly already made your mind up about me. And no, I don't think I'm the only protection role in this game...which is why I said wait and see if I'm counterclaimed. You yourself said it was "obvious" someone protected Tmarv...because I did. If you think I'm bullshitting, all you have to do is wait for someone to say I'm bullshitting. That's it.

I don't like your arguments against me. I never accused you of being a killer. I never said I was cleared, or claiming to know what Mani's info is. I never claimed to be the only protecting role either. Of everyone on my wagon, you're the most adamant. I know you play aggressively, but there's a difference in playing aggressively and stuffing words in my mouth.

FoS: JamesV

First off let me say that I KNOW FOR A FACT that there is more than one protection role in this game IF you are telling the truth. And that's a BIG if right there. You waited because you had to get your safeclaim good to go and pick out a target on the wagon that was not cleared by their info hence me being your only option.

My play has been alarming? Please. The only thing alarming in this game is the lack of activity by some players and the fact that no one is listening to the people who have legit info.

Fair enough about TJ but I trust him WAY more than I do you and Kris, bottom line.

I'm trying to put words in your mouth? No, I'm not letting you weasel out of the heat that you're getting over Mani's info. You're trying to worm out of it and it's not happening. Speaking of people putting words in other player's mouths you sure do a lot of it for someone complaining about it.

I am waiting for someone to counterclaim but I do know for a fact someone protected Tmarv the night before as well hence why I know there is more than one protection role.

You have to be kidding me. You said all of that stuff and I responded to it. You can't have it both ways. Oh, I get it. It's only ok if you do it. That's right. My mistake. Your argument against me is weak as hell and no one is going to fall for it because if or when I get lynched you will be next, bottom line. I will come up town and you will be screwed and HOPEFULLY the town wakes up and votes you out. And for the record I didn't stuff any words in your mouth. I just took what you said and did what you did to me. Pot, kettle, black. You may not like it but it's damn well what happened.

Aug 10, 2012 6:36:16 GMT -4 [ManiC] said:

Aug 9, 2012 23:47:26 GMT -4 Kurt said:

Before I elaborate, I want to say that I'm not going to sit here and use an ad hominem on Manic to try and discredit him. I don't know what information he has on me, and I'm not going to knock him for the way he's releasing it. It's smart, honestly. I can't claim "your info is wrong!" because I don't know what it is, or any elements that may have affected it, like misdirection or a frame. So, I don't really have anything to say there except to ask the town to hear me out.

This along with your later explanations of why you may be innocent actually directs me towards you being truthful. My information did come from a night-action, though it is very possible that the legitimacy of the night-action may have been tampered with (though it didn't show up in the write up I suppose it doesn't have to). That said, even if I'm inclined to believe you, I don't think it clears you entirely.

Unvote: Noble
F.o.S.: Noble

I'm waiting for someone to attempt to counter claim you until you're completely cleared in my eyes.

Unvote
Vote: Kris

Ok so Noble is clear for the time being but Kris isn't. Kris has been buddying WAY to much to Noble for my liking. Buddying is a scum tactic so if Noble is clear then Kris is the next best option.

[[ManiC]]

I wouldn't say he's clear, I'm just giving him the benefit of the doubt. If no-one counterclaims I'd say he's pretty safe, otherwise I'm starting suspicious.
Not a chance of me saying more than I already have Black Death, take my word for what you will.

[Michael Jennings]

Aug 10, 2012 13:51:57 GMT -4 [ManiC] said:

I wouldn't say he's clear, I'm just giving him the benefit of the doubt. If no-one counterclaims I'd say he's pretty safe, otherwise I'm starting suspicious.
Not a chance of me saying more than I already have Black Death, take my word for what you will.

Probably the only people who would counterclaim are inactives who aren't even playing the game or are radar scudding on purpose.

[The Soul Of Philly]

Aug 10, 2012 13:42:52 GMT -4 Michael Jennings said:

I am waiting for someone to counterclaim but I do know for a fact someone protected Tmarv the night before as well hence why I know there is more than one protection role.

That said, along with my information from last night,

Unvote: Kurt

I'm leaning to believe that, if your belief that there are two protection roles are right, both of those people visited T-Marv last night. I think its soo because with what? 4 SKs, just one protecter would SUCK

Now does that clear you exactly? No, not entirely. But there isn't enough for me to even put a FoS on you right now.

[T-Marv]

How do you know that both protectors visited me last night TJ?

[The Soul Of Philly]

T-Marv.....

Aug 10, 2012 0:26:33 GMT -4 The Soul Of Philly said:

I'll just say this, I know what three of you did last night (MUAHAHAHA) And who you did it to. Given what I know, my vote stays with Kurt because I'm more inclined that it wasn't Kurt who protected T-Marv rather he was the one who went to kill him.

That said, UnF.o.s: Kris

F.o.S: JamesV

I'm tending to believe that James isn't a SK based on what T-Marv has said but thta doesn't mean he's not the lone cultist.

And it's cool Marv, I played like shit the first day and I knew it the entire time.

It's more of a guess on my part, thinking that if James is right about being two protecting roles, which, makes sense with 4 SKs and a cult.

Also, realized I did put a F.o.S on James....eh.

[Jason Cashe]

I'm gonna go to "Town" and hit up a Wendy's anybody hungry?

[T-Marv]

I guess I'm just slipping.

You know who visited me last night, Correct?

Do you know what each person did to me?

Otherwise, how would you know that two people protected me? Also, wouldn't you know that Kurt Protected me?

[yarmouth1]

Yarm checking in I still think Kash is one of the killers imo just have a funny feeling from the first night.

vote:Kash

[The Soul Of Philly]

Aug 10, 2012 21:09:03 GMT -4 T-Marv said:

I guess I'm just slipping.

You know who visited me last night, Correct?

Do you know what each person did to me?

Otherwise, how would you know that two people protected me? Also, wouldn't you know that Kurt Protected me?

You're def slipping because I said it was a guess that two people protected you, based on these statements/assumptions:

- James feels that they're are two protectors due to knowledge that you were protected on night one by someone. I tend to believe this due to this assumption:
- With 4 SKs, it would make sense to have more than one protecting role, even if one of them is a limited use, which would make sense for both of them since it was almost a sure thing T-Marv was a target for a NK this night.
- Kurt is claiming his protected T-Marv last night while Kris is hinting at a role that is not "investigative or harmful" but rather the opposite.

I don't know what they did or who did what, but I know who visited you last night. And if you were wondering who the third person is, you know who it is.

[T-Marv]

Aug 10, 2012 23:12:31 GMT -4 The Soul Of Philly said:

Aug 10, 2012 21:09:03 GMT -4 T-Marv said:

I guess I'm just slipping.

You know who visited me last night, Correct?

Do you know what each person did to me?

Otherwise, how would you know that two people protected me? Also, wouldn't you know that Kurt Protected me?

You're def slipping because I said it was a guess that two people protected you, based on these statements/assumptions:

- James feels that they're are two protectors due to knowledge that you were protected on night one by someone. I tend to believe this due to this assumption:
- With 4 SKs, it would make sense to have more than one protecting role, even if one of them is a limited use, which would make sense for both of them since it was almost a sure thing T-Marv was a target for a NK this night.
- Kurt is claiming his protected T-Marv last night while Kris is hinting at a role that is not "investigative or harmful" but rather the opposite.

I don't know what they did or who did what, but I know who visited you last night. And if you were wondering who the third person is, you know who it is.

You said in one of your posts. "I know who three people visited and what they did"

And then you hinted that you saw who visited me EVEN THOUGH you at first hinted that you saw me visit James V.

Your story is wish washy.

You seem to be jumping around things.

You've already given a lot away yet you won't give out specifics.

I'm ready to put a vote on you TJ unless you explain more and none of this cryptic shit.