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Post by Level-Two on Oct 9, 2012 15:24:17 GMT -4
So we have MULTIPLE town roleblockers. And also still another recruiter? If the recruiter dies, would his first recruit take over that job? Shit, Im confused. No. Johnny Rebel is a liar. If you noticed the write ups, The Situation hasn't appeared since the first one. When he had been recruited into the cult no name appeared just a ?; Mike the sich' has appeared again for the first time as purple. If Rebel's telling the truth where is the second recruit in purple? THERE IS NONE. He's using this as an opportunity to slither his way out of this. Nick Watson is third party, Johnny Rebel came up with this strategy in his scum QT. I know what JamesV's role is now. Do not be confused by this. It's as simple as simple gets. There IS no second third party recruiter, it's a overpowered role to begin with and we're lucky to have got them day one. It's done. Knuckles is the GF Johnny is the Hitman and I think Krunk/Callahan is the rb'er Lastly, Nick Watson third party. I'm almost sure of all this. Let's wrap it up. |
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Post by Reaver on Oct 9, 2012 15:25:28 GMT -4
ebwop... damn u people and ur speed typing........ mason? nothing in the write up suggested it before so y should we believe u? im guessing that ur in deep shit and trying to dig urself out. i dont suppose james is in ur QT with u is he? i have an alternate theory as to wats going on and b4 i spill it, im going to make sure i dont get caught with the speed typing again since u guys seem to have a page of arguments done b4 i can finish my thoughts....  |
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Post by Johnny Rebel on Oct 9, 2012 15:33:36 GMT -4
So we have MULTIPLE town roleblockers. And also still another recruiter? If the recruiter dies, would his first recruit take over that job? Shit, Im confused. No. Johnny Rebel is a liar. If you noticed the write ups, The Situation hasn't appeared since the first one. When he had been recruited into the cult no name appeared just a ?; Mike the sich' has appeared again for the first time as purple. If Rebel's telling the truth where is the second recruit in purple? THERE IS NONE. He's using this as an opportunity to slither his way out of this. Nick Watson is third party, Johnny Rebel came up with this strategy in his scum QT. I know what JamesV's role is now. Do not be confused by this. It's as simple as simple gets. There IS no second third party recruiter, it's a overpowered role to begin with and we're lucky to have got them day one. It's done. Knuckles is the GF Johnny is the Hitman and I think Krunk/Callahan is the rb'er Lastly, Nick Watson third party. I'm almost sure of all this. Let's wrap it up. I'm lying, but now you believe Watson to be third party when you didn't before? Obama, is that you? You're throwing stuff against the wall to see if it sticks! If I knew Watson was third party yesterday, what would have I to gain by sticking my neck out for him? Absolutely nothing. It's clear that I'm town, so clear that I can't believer we're even having this argument, and you still choose to pick and choose what you want to believe! Now I'm the Hitman! You're full of it. For goodness sakes, people. Open your eyes. |
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Post by Reaver on Oct 9, 2012 15:38:23 GMT -4
ok here we go.....
rebel is the GF? maybe, my thought is that the scum had a plan to skip the kill AND their RB in order to push a lynch on somebody and add to the confusion. makes since to me since its a pretty smart plan. i wanna believe james is town and HIS ROLE is wat L-O hints at but since the town's RB'er is gone, we cant no for sure. wat gets me is that james is usually in depth with his explainations rather this game where he is spewing maybe a sentence or two most. last game he was quiet as fuck as to stay out of the lime light and this game he is trying to switch it up? this theory of coarse has no proof or merit other than the fact that rebel has been conveniently been acting weird all game.
so this is my suggestion, if i'm lynched and u guys finally see that that i'm town then u have a choice of either james or rebel. lynch either of them then im a garanteed next day target. so i guess the choice would be a potential 2 day lynch with rebel then me or a 3 day lynch with me, james, rebel. by then tho, we would lose the game to scum whereas, the we still have a chance with rebel.
at this point, we cant afford too many mistakes so if my mislynch helps u guys then do wat's necessary. i think this is the best way i can put it.
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Post by Johnny Rebel on Oct 9, 2012 15:39:08 GMT -4
EBWOP
If you are so convinced that I'm lying, lynch Watson right now, and if he flips anything other than third party than I'll gladly eat my words and vote for myself. I'm the only one that could have known Watson's alignment from the beginning, and I've already outed why. As to Knuckles suggestion that I'm defending him even now, that's completely and utterly wrong. Watson is a threat and needs to be eliminated just as much as you do.
Roleblock Knuckles, and make sure there isn't another NK, and we lynch him tomorrow. We're down two anti-town player, and the game shifts back to the town.
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Post by Level-Two on Oct 9, 2012 15:39:33 GMT -4
No, I ALWAYS believed he was third party scum. You just did a great job on making me DOUBT my information. Well, guess what? That's done. And guess what? The information I got? Paints Nick's guilt before your claiming he was even recruited.
It's hilarious. You thought I used my role on him last night? Whoops.
Because when Nick Watson flipped third party, you were going to push the idea that ''Nick Watson is third party, WHY would I stick my neck out for him if I was scum?'' line.
I know what your doing and trying to kill me tomorrow isn't going to cover it up, either.
Did I say you were something else? Okay, go.
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Post by Level-Two on Oct 9, 2012 15:43:18 GMT -4
EBWOP If you are so convinced that I'm lying, lynch Watson right now, and if he flips anything other than third party than I'll gladly eat my words and vote for myself. I'm the only one that could have known Watson's alignment from the beginning, and I've already outed why. As to Knuckles suggestion that I'm defending him even now, that's completely and utterly wrong. Watson is a threat and needs to be eliminated just as much as you do. Roleblock Knuckles, and make sure there isn't another NK, and we lynch him tomorrow. We're down two anti-town player, and the game shifts back to the town. We aren't going to lynch a third party and lose out on hitting mafia. Knuckles is scum as he's not trying to cast doubt on a confirmed townie, basic scum play. He's in panic mode. We lynch Knuckles then we decide what we do the next day phase. Preferably, lynching you or the roleblocker. Nick Watson isn't going anywhere anytime soon. He's harmless. |
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Post by Level-Two on Oct 9, 2012 15:44:50 GMT -4
EWOP:
Knuckles is NOW trying to cast doubt on confirmed town players. My bad. As I said, basic scum play. He got got. I had a feeling he was scum because all he'd do is kiss butt. That's why I urged someone to roleblock him last night and JamesV must've made that happen.
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Post by Nick Watson on Oct 9, 2012 15:45:45 GMT -4
Actually, Rebel is right. I played along for a while. I was recruited night one, but played it off. When Jeff died, I had no way to win anyway. The only thing that seemed logical to me at the time, as I was town before the conversion, was to help the town in some way shape or form to win this game. It sucks that I was recruited...but having no way to win and helping in some way shape or form now would be in the best interest of the game so that you all can win this one.
Is there a problem with that, Level? Or do we have to do a back and forth again about why I did what I did?
I wanted to win this game too...oh well this is all I'm worth now.
vote: Knuckle
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Post by Reaver on Oct 9, 2012 15:49:52 GMT -4
kiss butt? LOL how? u guys move too damn fast that im 6 posts behind by the time i get mine.
ive made my case, ill support wat needs to get done but as far as floundering as u suggested, i think ur just overly hyped and cant seem to think straight. just chill cuz we seriously seen u at ur best. i was scum when i didnt point the finger, i was scum when i did....make up ur mind man.
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Post by Level-Two on Oct 9, 2012 15:50:01 GMT -4
Actually, Rebel is right. I played along for a while. I was recruited night one, but played it off. When Jeff died, I had no way to win anyway. The only thing that seemed logical to me at the time, as I was town before the conversion, was to help the town in some way shape or form to win this game. It sucks that I was recruited...but having no way to win and helping in some way shape or form now would be in the best interest of the game so that you all can win this one. Is there a problem with that, Level? Or do we have to do a back and forth again about why I did what I did? I wanted to win this game too...oh well this is all I'm worth now. vote: KnuckleLOL! Nick just blew up Johnny Rebel's game. How is he ''right'' when you just admitted to being recruited when I said you were NOT when Johnny Rebel said you were (last night) This proves he's wrong, wrong, wrong! Thanks Nick Watson, I'm glad keeping you alive has worked out for the best. Three confirmed ANTI town players in one day. I am dying right now, LOL. ;D |
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Post by T-Marv on Oct 9, 2012 15:50:53 GMT -4
Vote Count:
Knuckles - 4(Level One, James V, Rebel, Watson)
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Post by Johnny Rebel on Oct 9, 2012 15:54:16 GMT -4
Actually, Rebel is right. I played along for a while. I was recruited night one, but played it off. When Jeff died, I had no way to win anyway. The only thing that seemed logical to me at the time, as I was town before the conversion, was to help the town in some way shape or form to win this game. It sucks that I was recruited...but having no way to win and helping in some way shape or form now would be in the best interest of the game so that you all can win this one. Is there a problem with that, Level? Or do we have to do a back and forth again about why I did what I did? I wanted to win this game too...oh well this is all I'm worth now. vote: KnuckleLOL! Nick just blew up Johnny Rebel's game. How is he ''right'' when you just admitted to being recruited when I said you were NOT when Johnny Rebel said you were (last night) This proves he's wrong, wrong, wrong! Thanks Nick Watson, I'm glad keeping you alive has worked out for the best. Three confirmed ANTI town players in one day. I am dying right now, LOL. ;D How would I have known he was recruited, other than in the write-up, or if he, you know, mentioned it to me in our mason group? If anything, this just confirms that I didn't know, and was in the dark when I defended him. You're wrong, and you can keep pushing your agenda, but you're going to cause another town player to go down. Let those with night actions do their work and prove that I'm town all the way. Knuckles is as good as scum, Watson has confessed to being third party, and you're going off a hunch, which is incredibly wrong, on me. |
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Post by Arcadia on Oct 9, 2012 15:59:08 GMT -4
Okay, I want to point out that there could be another option here. James roleblocked Knuckles and that's why there was was no kill,
OR
Krunk is Beiber and never sent in an action. If Knuckles turns up town, Krunk is scum. That's my hypothisis.
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Post by Level-Two on Oct 9, 2012 15:59:44 GMT -4
So, your argument is OFFICIALLY as follows.
Nick Watson is recruited NIGHT ONE (confirmed) by President Jeff. President Jeff is killed VIA lynch day two. On day three - nobody has any information and you don't give us jack shit on a third party member you know is third party. Instead, I do... and as a result you come AGAINST it knowing he's THIRD PARTY SCUM and promise that my information is incorrect.
If your town... why the fuck are you defending a third party scum who is no longer allied with you?
So, if your telling the truth *your not* then at very least you have a DIFFERENT win condition then the town and thus have been playing against it for your own reasons.
That's even if your telling the truth. After Knuckles flips scum; you seem to be the best lynch besides the roleblocker and you can cry about it all you want.
That's that.
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Post by A.C. Smith on Oct 9, 2012 16:00:04 GMT -4
Happy that the town's plan has seemingly worked in smoking out the anti-town players. Fact is, at this point, JamesV has already gotten one huge anti-town fish, and I trust that he's got another one on the line here.
VOTE: Knuckles
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Post by Johnny Rebel on Oct 9, 2012 16:03:11 GMT -4
So, your argument is OFFICIALLY as follows. Nick Watson is recruited NIGHT ONE (confirmed) by President Jeff. President Jeff is killed VIA lynch day two. On day three - nobody has any information and you don't give us jack shit on a third party member you know is third party. Instead, I do... and as a result you come AGAINST it knowing he's THIRD PARTY SCUM and promise that my information is incorrect. If your town... why the fuck are you defending a third party scum who is no longer allied with you? So, if your telling the truth *your not* then at very least you have a DIFFERENT win condition then the town and thus have been playing against it for your own reasons. That's even if your telling the truth. After Knuckles flips scum; you seem to be the best lynch besides the roleblocker and you can cry about it all you want. That's that. I told you once already, I HAD NO CLUE WATSON WAS THIRD PARTY. I was still under the impression he was a mason member with me...and when I vouched for him, I believed he was still town. You still haven't proved jack. You're basing your entire argument off a hunch, that's wrong, and when I flip town, and I will, the target will be flipped on you. |
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Post by Reaver on Oct 9, 2012 16:04:10 GMT -4
i dunno about krunk but arcadia has the right idea, when i flip town tho, u guys have other options. i would suggest helping L-O doc as he would be the logical kill choice. sorry i couldnt have been better help
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Post by Nick Watson on Oct 9, 2012 16:05:26 GMT -4
No, Rebel never knew I was a member of the other group. All he knew was that I was able to speak in his QT. He defended me blindly and I was happy he did. I feel more like a town anyway.
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Post by Level-Two on Oct 9, 2012 16:08:44 GMT -4
We'll leave it at this because now that you say you didn't know he was third party, it makes more sense. Also, it's pretty sleazeball of you to blame me for the Chaos lynch when it was apparently YOUR mistake to begin with. In fact, after clearing Nick Watson... you yourself pushed a Chaos lynch. So get the fuck off it, Johnny.
Anyways, back to productive work...
Townies, if any of you were role blocked please share.
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Post by SalTal on Oct 9, 2012 16:11:46 GMT -4
I was. On the phone at the moment; will elaborate when I get to a pc.
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Post by Johnny Rebel on Oct 9, 2012 16:14:36 GMT -4
We'll leave it at this because now that you say you didn't know he was third party, it makes more sense. Also, it's pretty sleazeball of you to blame me for the Chaos lynch when it was apparently YOUR mistake to begin with. In fact, after clearing Nick Watson... you yourself pushed a Chaos lynch. So get the fuck off it, Johnny. Anyways, back to productive work... Townies, if any of you were role blocked please share. LOL. Don't act like you weren't the one driving the Chaos lynch...the kid was crying in your cheerios because you pushed so hard. I'll admit that I was on board because he/she's play was obvious scum tactics, and quitting is a BS way to go out of this game. And I agree, some productive work would be good. I'll be waiting for your apologies in the fallout thread.  |
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Post by Reaver on Oct 9, 2012 16:17:24 GMT -4
as will i......
btw, u still owe me a favor LOL and im cashing it in (see jkbonbons thread) :-p
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Post by Level-Two on Oct 9, 2012 16:20:18 GMT -4
Chaos drove his own lynch straight to the grave. Again, YOUR MISTAKE resulted in his lynch. No matter how much you want to spin that and put it on me, it doesn't change that fact.
Without your ''Nick Watson is town 100%'' Nick Watson is lynched. And why would I owe you an apology? This is a game. If I apply the pressure and you pass the test, then I can conclude town and we move onto the next one.
And yes with that said - I do believe you to be town. So... onto the next one.
I'm now looking at Arcadia for not voting and trying to push a inactive godfather scenario slyly. She also seemed to be pushing a lynch on you, over anything else. As your biggest critic, I wouldn't even go that far.
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Post by Arcadia on Oct 9, 2012 16:24:11 GMT -4
The reason I was pushing Rebel is the same reason you were. I cannot give you any proof that I am town, but I can give you the logic behind why I thought Rebel was lying and can hope that you will see the linear thinking in my thought process. What I need from you, L-1 is a tiny bit of patience as I will be posting this inbetween customers.
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Post by Level-Two on Oct 9, 2012 16:27:09 GMT -4
Okay, Arcadia. I'll step away a bit. I'm getting paranoid. I'll take a break and come back to everything with a clear head. I thought Johnny Rebel was scum but he's not - so there goes that. At least, it's another confirmed townie.
Knuckles, do you have a role? Who did you use it on the past three nights?
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Post by Level-Two on Oct 9, 2012 16:32:30 GMT -4
EWOP:
Never mind. He's claimed a no role. Which considering we think he's scum, isn't a surprise. I guess he doesn't want to fake claim and risk the counter. I guess since he has no role that can benefit the town, we can take a risk with JamesV's info and hope that it isn't a situation of an inactive godfather.
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Post by Reaver on Oct 9, 2012 16:41:18 GMT -4
all i have is common sense (sorta) but i would really suggest waiting until everybody checks in first. still waiting on the returning callahan, and a couple others.
for the record, this is the second game krunk has been useless and shipped off. can we not let him in anymore? plz? shouldnt have to find replacements for inactivity. once in awhile is understandable but when its the same person over n over, it ruins the game
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Post by Arcadia on Oct 9, 2012 17:05:59 GMT -4
I don't want to role claim, so I won't. But I probably can't explain it subtly enough that only certain people understand. Anyway, I have a role. The drawback of my role is that anything that happens to the person I use my role on will also happen to me. On the second night, I used my role on Watson.
When Rebel vouched for Watson on day 3, I thought he must have checked him out on night 2, since he didn't mention anything before about knowing for certain he was town. And if he checked him out, he would've also found out that I was town as I explained how my role works.
When Rebel didn't mention me being town as well, at first I thought, "Well, I wasn't up for vote, no one was suspicious of me." But that wasn't true, was it? I had been mentioned multiple times, mostly by L-1. So I couldn't figure out why he didn't also defend me.
So, I went back through the posts to see if there was a hint anywhere that he checked him out on a different night, or that maybe someone had checked out the person I used my role on on Night 1, but I couldn't find either.
I came to the conclusion that Rebel didn't defend me because he didn't know i was town, because he was lying about Watson. He didn't check him out on night 2, he never mentioned it, we just took his word as it was just because. L-1 even started questioning his own role and if it was broken or not.
All of this led me to the conclusion that Rebel and Watson were scum together protecting themselves and all I needed to prove it AND my innocence was for Rebel to admit that he had "checked out Watson" on night 2.
SO...
That is why I called Rebel a liar and pushed for his lynch. I assure you, I am town. And it turns out that he didn't check out watson at all (which in some ways was worse than him lying and saying he did) so I was right about him not knowing I was town. I just jumped to the evil scummy conclussion instead of the "he must have made an honest mistake" one.
That's all I got for you. L-1. Im town. I have no idea if this will make sense to you or if you will fire back a "good story you thought up in your scummy QT!!" but that's why I was pushing Rebel. Again, I don't have any actual proof that I am town because my role is pretty self-focused.
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Post by SalTal on Oct 9, 2012 17:11:54 GMT -4
Ok, I can confirm that I was blocked. I played my role very dead during say phases to stay off the radar. Seems that my part in the Stryke lynch ( which I will take a lot of blame for ) ended that.
I can confirm that AC is what we think he is. I can also confirm that s'more reliable lynch is Watson.
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