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Post by KJE on Nov 23, 2012 11:38:55 GMT -4
Hm, I also noticed Roy has been on the boards but has yet to say anything at all this whole day phase.... Roy, if you can, please say something, if you dont we might have a silencer or the like in our mist also.
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Post by Reaver on Nov 23, 2012 11:51:11 GMT -4
My guess is that Yarmouth lied because he doesn't have a town aligned role. When I challenged his lie; he panicked and tried to save face and recover. He could've been chewed out by his QT after I mentioned it as well. Though, I don't think Yarmouth is scum. He probably is the third party killer. Also a slight chance that he's still town - nothing is for sure when your dealing with an inexperienced player that doesn't fully understand the game. He needs to be copped - preferably tracked tonight. @ L-O, im not defending yarmouth but this IS still new to him as well. normally id agree with u but the chances of that to be true are maybe 20%? he was scum last game. it may not be much but the 1 thing ive noticed in these games is that the odds of being scum 2 games in a row is very very small. the exception being james at the moment. now im not saying he isnt 3rd party BUT i just wanna give im 1 more nite/day phase to check him out which is wat i think u were saying in the first place. not "truthfully" it may be a waste of time since im just as curious about mania myself. as far as ur request, would "detection" suffice ur needs?
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Post by Reaver on Nov 23, 2012 11:52:45 GMT -4
My guess is that Yarmouth lied because he doesn't have a town aligned role. When I challenged his lie; he panicked and tried to save face and recover. He could've been chewed out by his QT after I mentioned it as well. Though, I don't think Yarmouth is scum. He probably is the third party killer. Also a slight chance that he's still town - nothing is for sure when your dealing with an inexperienced player that doesn't fully understand the game. He needs to be copped - preferably tracked tonight. @ L-O, im not defending yarmouth but this IS still new to him as well. normally id agree with u but the chances of that to be true are maybe 20%? he was scum last game. it may not be much but the 1 thing ive noticed in these games is that the odds of being scum 2 games in a row is very very small. the exception being james at the moment. now im not saying he isnt 3rd party BUT i just wanna give im 1 more nite/day phase to check him out which is wat i think u were saying in the first place. not "truthfully" it may be a waste of time since im just as curious about mania myself. as far as ur request, would "detection" suffice ur needs? ebwop...... i meant to say now "truthfully"
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Post by Kurt on Nov 23, 2012 11:53:59 GMT -4
Here's the hilarious part of this whole situation.
I didn't try to kill you L1. I protected you. Roleclaiming is pretty much the only way to save me, so here it goes: I'm a town bulletproof shield. I pick another user, and protect them, and myself. Neither of us can be killed. You claimed to win the trivia, so I protected you; it's as simple as that.
I won't ask L1 or Tmarv to explain what they know, but I do ask others to check them should I not survive today. I did visit L1, but I protected him. I'm at L-1, so all I ask is that you give me a bit of time to refute the claims against me.
Since I work Black Friday, I'm not going to be able to post much today, but I will try and post again soon, assuming I'm still alive. That's what I've got for you guys.
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Post by Kurt on Nov 23, 2012 13:54:32 GMT -4
Got time for one more post.
I'm always wary of day two 100% claims. I don't think L1 is lying, but I don't think he has the full scope of what happened last night. I protected him, but I don't assume I stopped a kill on him because of he writeup. Again, not gonna ask him how he stopped the kill or why he thinks I'm scum, but you guys need to inquirer about it when I flip exactly the role I've claimed. Don't make the silly move of outright lynching him either. Its bad play.
Not really sure what else I can add besides my thoughts. I don't trust the middle bandwagoners who hopped on with little discussion. KJE is rubbing me the wrong especially, but there's little there besides gut feeling.
Good luck guys. I'll see you in the future!
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Post by Reaver on Nov 23, 2012 14:19:38 GMT -4
unvote
id like to see wat else people can give us.
as far as me? i got an inconclusive.........im really curious y mania.
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Post by President Jeff on Nov 23, 2012 15:28:02 GMT -4
I find it weird that Level One and others we're so sure of Kurt being scum that you tried to lynch him before the guy even had a chance to defend himself.
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Post by Level-Two on Nov 23, 2012 15:28:42 GMT -4
Don't unvote. He's LYING! I know what role Terry Marvin is hinting at and Kurt Noble is the only name he came out with.
Do I have to dump ALL my info to get this lynch done? He isn't an over powered bulletproof doctor and has only made that claim because he knows it won't be countered.
Kurt Noble tried to KILL last night and he failed. He wasn't protecting anyone.
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Post by Level-Two on Nov 23, 2012 16:06:34 GMT -4
I find it weird that Level One and others we're so sure of Kurt being scum that you tried to lynch him before the guy even had a chance to defend himself. When someone comes out with night actions that corroborate with my own results there isn't much need for me to hear how the scum and it's QT spins it's web. I already know it's going to happen because nobody has EVER been lynched before they can ''defend'' themselves. Yesterday I said Kurt noble is scum or Terry Marvin is lying. Kurt Noble has confirmed Terry Marvin is telling the truth about his role and thus this confirms that Kurt Noble is scum.... even though he's probably unaware of that fact. Kurt Noble's cover story is 100% developed AFTER the write up and is too good to be true. I've modded enough games and overseen plenty of QTs. He can't go after me or Terry because if either of us were lynched it'll be a one lynch deal, we'll flip town and our roles will be reavealed and then he'll be next. He has to give us that respect as it also helps him look diplomatic and town aligned. Though, he is sure to divert attention onto others... specifically KJE as lynching her will lead us nowhere. And then President Jeff followed with some diversion of his own. What I find suspicious is that two people have come out and implicated Kurt... yet, your problem is that we voted before he could defend himself? Did you ask JamesV how his day was before you vigilante killed him last game, Jeff? Food for thought. If you are scum Jeff, it'll be a short game for you now because Kurt Noble is flipping scum hitman when he's lynched and little comments like these stand out in the minds of the town.
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Post by KJE on Nov 23, 2012 16:09:37 GMT -4
Kurt why am I rubbing you the wrong way? Is it because I outright named three of you already? I have done, or said nothing at all to seem scummy, so it's got me rather curious. Believe, when I am scum in one of these games, you will know without a doubt. I'm horrible at hiding it.
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Post by KJE on Nov 23, 2012 16:12:41 GMT -4
EBWOP So who is it we are having thoughts on.... Yarmouth, Mania, and Jeff?
That's everything covered there if we are right. I can see why they are sweating, they have all been, or mostly been, pegged from day two.
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Post by President Jeff on Nov 23, 2012 16:13:21 GMT -4
Lester, I'm not saying your wrong, Kurt could be scum. Buts theres always 2 sides to every story. If anyone thinks I'm scum, them feel free come check me out. Cause I can tell you right now, I didn't use my role last night and I probably won't use it again tonight.
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Post by KJE on Nov 23, 2012 16:15:17 GMT -4
Okay so in other words if we want to get a read on you, a cop or investigator, because a tracker would do no good
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Post by Level-Two on Nov 23, 2012 16:27:48 GMT -4
Lester, I'm not saying your wrong, Kurt could be scum. Buts theres always 2 sides to every story. If anyone thinks I'm scum, them feel free come check me out. Cause I can tell you right now, I didn't use my role last night and I probably won't use it again tonight. Yes, I understand that. But this isn't circumstantial evidence - Kurt was caught and blocked red handed. There are benefits to hearing both sides of the story... but votes have to start somewhere, do they not? Considering me and terry are the one's with the info... I don't why it would be weird that we'd vote for him knowing what we know. It's mafia; people give up but nobody has ever thrown up their hands and confessed. Since we're two away... recomendations. You do whatever the fuck you guys want but I think it's a good idea to spread our roles out as far as we can. Watcher: Watch Level-One Tracker: Track Yarmouth Doctor: Protect Terry Marvin Roleblocker: Have at it hoss (tip: don't block a townie - lol) Cop: Twas inactive? Cop Mark Mania. What other roles we got out there? I don't know but Yarmouth, Mark Mania and President Jeff would be ideal in that order. ESPECIALLY the first two!
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Post by Buckson Gooch on Nov 23, 2012 16:34:32 GMT -4
I'm not going to change my vote on Noble and I hope we do lynch him. I think he's scum, but if he's not, L1 will become my number one person I think is Scum. I'm seeing someone being really defensive. If Noble ends up being scum, I'll give a giant apology to L1, but if he's not. My vote will go to L1 or KJE. Not because KJE has said anything but for L1 to say killing her would be "useless" implies something there, perhaps to throw people off.
I think Yarmouth did something pretty brave in this game. He put himself on the line to out scum, that being Noble. For Yarmouth to do that would put the other scum in danger. If I had to pick right now, I would not be voting for Yarmouth next round. I think he did something he intended to do, he outed scum. If Noble ends up being scum, Yarmouth deserves a pat on the back. Gutz...he got 'em.
If I'm wrong, explain, still trying to get my footing here. I could be way out in left field, but figured it's worth a shot to explain what I'm seeing.
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Post by Level-Two on Nov 23, 2012 16:39:09 GMT -4
Ain't no defense here, homie. I am on one mode; agression. One hundred percent scum head hunting offense. I make scum uncomfortable and then that makes them predictible and I love it.
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Post by Buckson Gooch on Nov 23, 2012 16:41:11 GMT -4
My bad, still getting used to this. Glad you're on our side. If you're this adamant, the evidence does point to Noble. Good catch, bro.
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Post by KJE on Nov 23, 2012 16:44:25 GMT -4
Yarmouth didn't out the scum... just saying. What he did was lied about his action last night, which is what got him on the list.
I truly believe we have this in the bag, unless new information turns up telling us we are wrong.
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Post by Reaver on Nov 23, 2012 16:47:20 GMT -4
taking a break....
reading up on everything, i feel like i have nothing to lose. if noble comes up scum then we already have a few others.
vote:Noble
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Post by President Jeff on Nov 23, 2012 17:35:35 GMT -4
What the hell. Lets see what happens
Vote: Noble
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Post by Jules on Nov 23, 2012 18:40:23 GMT -4
That's a lynch. Day 2 is over.
There are a multitude of factors in this movie, but those struggling inside with the very real battle to either save, control or terminate Arnie’s psyche do not have the benefit of a satellite view. They are forced to face their ordeal from the inside, relying only on their wits, their instincts and the few scraps of information in circulation.
What the 'Arnies' believed was that somebody had to pay with their life for the events of the previous night.
The 'Arnies' soon gathered around their prime suspect, the T-800 and upon trying to hang the android as an enemy of the 'good Arnies, and seeing the futility of this act, knew they faced a difficult foe. The cybernetic organism fought back, but even he had his flaws and it wasn’t long before Mr. Olympia and Douglas Quaid/Hauser seized the opportunity to plunge in the knife and allow those gathered to remove the CPU of the T-800 and smash it into a thousand pieces.
DEAD: T-800 (Kurt) – Town Bulletproof Shield
*
Night 2 begins. No more talking. You have 24 hours to submit your night actions.
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Post by Jules on Nov 24, 2012 20:03:47 GMT -4
NIGHT 2
Reeling from their faux pas in day 2 the ‘good Arnies’ know they cannot afford many more mistakes; tonight steps have to be taken to find one of the bad guys.
Dr. Alex Hesse knows he is in trouble here, but once again he provides his special elixir for himself. However, the effort is in vain because the targets of the conspirators lie elsewhere. Julius Benedict continues his own examinations and analysis of the conversation, but once again he may be left mystified by his conclusion. Maybe he’s just not asking the correct questions.
U.S. Marshall Jack Kruger had it in his mind to put a block on Detective John Kimble; not the wisest move since the good detective has woken from his slumber and having done some digging of his own may have stumbled on a shocking relevation.
But before Jack Kruger can act there are others who move swifter and with more decisiveness against him. Mr. Freeze has his sights firmly set on Jack Kruger for the second night, but as he arrives to blast the Marshall with his freeze ray he finds only Jack Kruger’s corpse.
Riddled with bullets, Jack Kruger doesn’t present much of a sight, but Mr. Freeze simply shrugs, departing quickly in the event that someone has tracked him here.
DEAD – U.S. Marshall Jack Kruger (Roy Speede) – Town Roleblocker
DAY 3 BEGINS NOW. YOU CAN TALK AGAIN.
DEAD LIST 1. Kalidor – Hated Townie 2. Governor Schwarzenegger (JamesV) – Mafia Godfather (killed – night1) 3. T-800 (Kurt) – Town Bulletproof Shield (lynched – day 2) 4. U.S. Marshall Jack Kruger (Roy Speede) – Town Roleblocker (killed – night 2)
PLAYERS ALIVE 1. Level-One 2. Kaylyn 3. Buckson Gooch 4. El Presidente 5. Mark Mania 6. Knuckles 7. T-Marv 8. A.C. Smith 9. TJ 10. Yarmouth 11. Rebel 12. Callahan
With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
DAY 3 DEADLINE: Tuesday 27th November 2012 23:00 (GMT); 18:00 (EST)
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Post by T-Marv on Nov 24, 2012 20:09:29 GMT -4
Playing with yourself again L1?
In all seriousness. I understand why L1 thought that Kurt was scum and I would have made the same play if what he's hinting at is the truth.
It's just a shame that it didn't work out for us. All it means is we've got work to do.
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Post by Reaver on Nov 24, 2012 20:18:04 GMT -4
thats for damn sure......
then again, based on the write up, it wasnt the same attacker to kill them off. im assuming that somebody knew they were gonna be watched and didnt throw out a nite action so ur results would have been, so and so did nothing.....
am i about rite?
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Post by Level-Two on Nov 24, 2012 20:43:31 GMT -4
Sorry guys, the scum hitman is a ninja. Before the scum train tries to start rolling - night one, I still used my role on myself and blocked the kill. If you read the write up from day one, you'll know who I am.
This mistake was equivalent to a sane cop receiving a guilty read on someone that has been framed. You go on the most LIKELY scenario and that's what I did... turns out, I was wrong.
Since the hitman ninja cannot be detected, I want to hear more about Knuckle's inconclusive result he got on Mark Mania from last night.
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Post by Level-Two on Nov 24, 2012 20:46:26 GMT -4
EWOP
Also looks like the killer was tracked last night.
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Post by The Soul Of Philly on Nov 24, 2012 21:06:25 GMT -4
Ok so third day phase and we got the Godfather but we've lost both a body guard and a roleblocker. We don't know who did the kill though. I Went through all the write ups to and came up with what Arnold characters we have in order of appearance.
Conan The Barbarian "The Malevolent One" Governor Arnold Doug Quaid Julius Benedict "Man Fond of Digging" Dr. Alex Hesse Trench US Marshall Jack Kruger Detective John Kimble T-800 Mr. Olympia Hauser Mr. Freeze
In terms of town and scum
Town Conan The Barbarian Doug Quaid Julius Benedict Dr. Alex Hesse US Marshall Jack Kruger Detective John Kimble T-800 Mr. Olympia
Scum "The Malevolent One" Governor Arnold Trench Hauser Mr. Freeze
Unknown "Man Fond of digging"
That's 14 names of note in the write ups. It could be a scum member that we know of as "TMO" but I can't think of anyone of the known Arnolds that could be a man fond of digging.. If you were wondering, i got "Man fond of digging" in teh night one write up where it says Julius Benedict has his focus on a man himself fond of digging. I don't know which character this may be, or if he'll be town or scum.
I'm thinking TMO is one of the scum members, given the only idea I had to who it could be in the original write up was "Time to get erased" which would be a play on "The Eraser" but Kruger was the main character of that film and he's town. Maybe the Man fond of digging is the third party, which would me, whoever is Julius knows who it is.
Wait, Knuckles got a inclusive read on Mania this past night phase or the first night phase? And I don't know about that L1, reading the the write up and my guess of which character is the tracker, if there is such a role in this set up, is Julius Benedict given that the character is from Twins, which Julius tracks down his twin and if that is the case, the write up suggests that he was doing something else.
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Post by Buckson Gooch on Nov 24, 2012 21:11:54 GMT -4
L1, even tho Noble wasnt scum, I dont think you are. No offense meant but KJE has my interest but I am not ready to fos.
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Post by KJE on Nov 24, 2012 22:04:06 GMT -4
I can tell you I am town. Take it for what you will. I was in the write up that started day 1 night phase, however, after reading the write up that started last night phase.... I would ask everyone to vote me off. While a town will be lost, a mafiosa will as well. If you catch my drift.
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Post by Reaver on Nov 24, 2012 22:04:33 GMT -4
well it also shows quad/hauser as 1 scum and 1 town. maybe he is a traitor? or perhaps 1 on each day switching out? i find that a lil odd..... before i ans u L-O, i need to ask u something TJ. who do u think is the man fond of digging? i think i no who he is but who do u thin the character is? reading back from the write ups, its obvious that its more than flavor. he has been telling us wats going on. our town cop should have been blocked but speede was our blocker so his block would have missed. so from this we all need to pull our heads out of our asses and get it right. i also need a favor to ask EVERYBODY!! i need everybody to say this phrase: "I am TOWN!" ballsy i no my role is a lil difficult to navigate....
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