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Post by tuhoa on Dec 20, 2012 7:32:57 GMT -4
EBWOP
Mafia has already won this game. I've been on Gooch since the get-go, and I guarantee he's mafia. Mafia wins, and Gooch should be MVP.
Unvote: Gooch
Vote: Phenom
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Post by SalTal on Dec 20, 2012 7:34:19 GMT -4
EWBOB or whatever No one has cleared Jules, how about someone check Phenom's cult like allegiance to Jules. The only person to clear him was Jeff, and Jeff even knows he needs to be cleared. All Jules and Phenom have done is insult me this game. Jules even threw the first "punch." Look back at it. When in the blue hell have I EVER in this game, taken Jules side... I haven't even mentioned his name in ANY post at ANY time in this game! Vote: GoochAfter, like, 4 days of going hard on Gooch ... and instead of defending yourself against what seems to be a 50/50 lynch ... you rebut an insult from the last day and then vote Gooch?
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Post by tuhoa on Dec 20, 2012 7:37:15 GMT -4
For those left town... When I'm lynched... Mark my words...
Scum: Sam, Kaylyn, and Gooch
Here's some more info for you, so you have every right to lynch me...
...I visited Jeff last night to use my role.
NOW, LYNCH MY TOWN ASS!
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Post by SalTal on Dec 20, 2012 7:41:55 GMT -4
Settle down. Rather than having a dummy spit because people have suspected you (something you've just done of me and watch as I proceed to have a rational discussion ... or at least try to), why not be constructive? It's a GAME for crying out loud. We talked Gooch off the ledge for taking this personally. I'll ignore your claim on me because, well, you would probably need to substantiate something about it. But this: ...I visited Jeff last night to use my role. NOW, LYNCH MY TOWN ASS! ... is actually interesting. Can you give any information? Any help at all? If you could, you would instantly get all the votes off you (ignoring your own absurd vote) and on to Level-One in an instant. It was two votes on you? And your reaction was this? For someone who is supposed to be somewhat experienced in this game, you sure lost your shit quicker than someone the day after eating a bowl of chilli.
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Post by Jules on Dec 20, 2012 7:44:08 GMT -4
For those left town... When I'm lynched... Mark my words... Scum: Sam, Kaylyn, and Gooch Here's some more info for you, so you have every right to lynch me... ...I visited Jeff last night to use my role. NOW, LYNCH MY TOWN ASS! What is this? Is this a scum member throwing his toys out of the pram because his mates are throwing him under the bus?
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Post by Mark Mania on Dec 20, 2012 7:46:08 GMT -4
I've got to say KJE that was a brilliant use of your lie detector. After I saw the write up I was shocked about losing Jeff. You made a game changer.
I'll go with you guys and
Vote: Phenom
I don't know what his play is here saying he visited Jeff, but unless he was watching him and found that Gooch did the kill, he's a good choice. But I don't know why he wouldn't have just said that.
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Post by tuhoa on Dec 20, 2012 7:47:12 GMT -4
I'm NOT going to roleclaim, Sam... However, I visited Jeff to investigate Kaylyn (should let you know what I could do)(also, just one shot). I was told however, that since he died, it was for nothing.
And Jules, if that's what you want to call it, then so be it. I am a bit pissed that moronic votes are being thrown out on me, even though I've been cleared. That's why I voted myself, how could other townees be so stupid, when I've already been cleared by TOWN?
Therefore, Sam, what does that say about Jeff clearing you, as well?
Unvote
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Post by SalTal on Dec 20, 2012 7:47:25 GMT -4
I don't know what his play is here saying he visited Jeff, but unless he was watching him and found that Gooch did the kill, he's a good choice. But I don't know why he wouldn't have just said that. This, 100%. If there's anything to add ... add it. Otherwise, stop acting like a BHarv.
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Post by SalTal on Dec 20, 2012 7:49:37 GMT -4
Therefore, Sam, what does that say about Jeff clearing you, as well? Because I'm not in the habit of repeating myself, I'll quote the part of my previous post that states what could have happened: The argument being made, for those who haven’t/don’t want to catch up: Level-One was checked by KJE on night one and cleared as town, but subsequent to this checking a recruitment was made which could have been Level-One. Phenom was investigated by Jeff (as cop) and got an innocent reading, but may be the Godfather. Just give us something ... anything ... that can counter this argument. People are listening, trust me.
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Post by Jules on Dec 20, 2012 7:51:16 GMT -4
I think our progress is simple today. And, unless someone comes in with new information that 100% nails a scummer, we have two options: Lynch Level-One or Phenom. [/quote] This is being a little economical with the truth if you ask me, and is not an exhaustive list. Phenom was investigated by Jeff (as cop) and got an innocent reading, but may be the Godfather. I don't see why, using your logic, why you're suddenly exempt from suspicion as the GF.
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Post by tuhoa on Dec 20, 2012 7:51:23 GMT -4
I got nothing, because Mafia killed Jeff. Thus, my action was wasted. And here...
Vote: Phenom
I'm actually going to stick with voting myself. 1 more vote lynches me, btw.
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Post by Mark Mania on Dec 20, 2012 7:52:40 GMT -4
I think what Phenom is saying is that isn't it possible you, Sallt, could also be the godfather?
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Post by Jules on Dec 20, 2012 7:53:31 GMT -4
EBWOP I think our progress is simple today. And, unless someone comes in with new information that 100% nails a scummer, we have two options: Lynch Level-One or Phenom. This is being a little economical with the truth if you ask me, and is not an exhaustive list. Phenom was investigated by Jeff (as cop) and got an innocent reading, but may be the Godfather. I don't see why, using your logic, you're suddenly exempt from suspicion as the GF.
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Post by SalTal on Dec 20, 2012 7:54:39 GMT -4
Getting this in first:
Unvote: Phenom
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Post by SalTal on Dec 20, 2012 7:57:49 GMT -4
I unvoted because he is one away, and that is not good for any of us. Anyone who rushes him now is suspicious given that more people can check in, and things are being said about people that need addressing. I think our progress is simple today. And, unless someone comes in with new information that 100% nails a scummer, we have two options: Lynch Level-One or Phenom. This is being a little economical with the truth if you ask me, and is not an exhaustive list. Phenom was investigated by Jeff (as cop) and got an innocent reading, but may be the Godfather. I don't see why, using your logic, why you're suddenly exempt from suspicion as the GF. [/quote] I'm not going to fix your quoting, but it will looked mixed in there. Of course I'm not going to factor myself into the theory that it's one of the two. I formulate my theory on the basis of what I know. I know I am town, so I proceed accordingly. I would think that my actions are less scummy than most (though, with yarmouth's lynch on my hands, and potentially another one, I can see why some might be suspicious). If KJE can narrow it down to L1-Phenom-Me, and I know I can take myself out of the equation then I'm going to do so. As it stands, those are the three that you all might want to deal with. But, saying so, I'm prepared to put myself out there to do whatever it takes to clear my name. Whether it be watcher, lie detector, anything. Also, I'm beginning to rethink things. I wonder if the scum, not having Level-One on their team at the start, thought that he would be the best to recruit because he is one of the strongest players in the game? As I said, I took my vote off Phenom because it was at tipping point, but this certainly is weighing on my mind now.
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Post by tuhoa on Dec 20, 2012 7:57:57 GMT -4
Yeah, that's what I thought.
Unvote
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Post by SalTal on Dec 20, 2012 7:59:47 GMT -4
Yeah, that's what I thought. UnvoteWas this seriously a contest of chicken to you just now? Well done, you won the game that only you were playing ....
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Post by Lord Raab on Dec 20, 2012 8:23:29 GMT -4
Just checking in and like Roy. I also have no night action and not got any info yet again.
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Post by Jules on Dec 20, 2012 8:24:05 GMT -4
Of course I'm not going to factor myself into the theory that it's one of the two. I formulate my theory on the basis of what I know. I know I am town, so I proceed accordingly. I would think that my actions are less scummy than most (though, with yarmouth's lynch on my hands, and potentially another one, I can see why some might be suspicious). If KJE can narrow it down to L1-Phenom-Me, and I know I can take myself out of the equation then I'm going to do so. As it stands, those are the three that you all might want to deal with. But, saying so, I'm prepared to put myself out there to do whatever it takes to clear my name. Whether it be watcher, lie detector, anything. Also, I'm beginning to rethink things. I wonder if the scum, not having Level-One on their team at the start, thought that he would be the best to recruit because he is one of the strongest players in the game? As I said, I took my vote off Phenom because it was at tipping point, but this certainly is weighing on my mind now. That's reasonable enough, but we're not making our judgement based on how you factor it from your point of view. You may 'know' your town, but we don't. Therefore, that Jeff got an innocent read on you because you could be the GF is a factor for us, and needs to be recognised.
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Post by Jules on Dec 20, 2012 8:27:44 GMT -4
Just checking in and like Roy. I also have no night action and not got any info yet again. Raab, what is this? Nothing frustrates me more than these 'I'm just checking in' posts when we're this far into the game. If you don't have a night action, fine, but care to share your thoughts on what you can see, i.e. what is taking place in the game thread. I'm not saying you're scum Raab, but this just smacks of someone trying to fly under the radar, but if you're town it's completely unhelpful and, frankly, is of no use to the town. Kaylyn hit the nail on the head when she said too many people are playing safe in this game.
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Post by SalTal on Dec 20, 2012 8:28:23 GMT -4
Of course I'm not going to factor myself into the theory that it's one of the two. I formulate my theory on the basis of what I know. I know I am town, so I proceed accordingly. I would think that my actions are less scummy than most (though, with yarmouth's lynch on my hands, and potentially another one, I can see why some might be suspicious). If KJE can narrow it down to L1-Phenom-Me, and I know I can take myself out of the equation then I'm going to do so. As it stands, those are the three that you all might want to deal with. But, saying so, I'm prepared to put myself out there to do whatever it takes to clear my name. Whether it be watcher, lie detector, anything. Also, I'm beginning to rethink things. I wonder if the scum, not having Level-One on their team at the start, thought that he would be the best to recruit because he is one of the strongest players in the game? As I said, I took my vote off Phenom because it was at tipping point, but this certainly is weighing on my mind now. That's reasonable enough, but we're not making our judgement based on how you factor it from your point of view. You may 'know' your town, but we don't. Therefore, that Jeff got an innocent read on you because you could be the GF is a factor for us, and needs to be recognised. As I said, I'm willing to do what I can to clean my name. I doubt the actual Godfather would make the claim and carry out any request. I'm also working with KJE as a way to narrow down, further, the scum. Judge me for what I do when requested. And I've recognised it as much as I'm going to. I'm not, I know it, and you can base your suspicions on that if you want. If you continue to pursue this line, I can promise you that it will reveal things that the town won't want revealed.
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Post by Jules on Dec 20, 2012 8:30:44 GMT -4
If you continue to pursue this line, I can promise you that it will reveal things that the town won't want revealed. Are you hinting at a passive role here? 'Yes' or 'no' will suffice.
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Post by SalTal on Dec 20, 2012 8:32:08 GMT -4
If you continue to pursue this line, I can promise you that it will reveal things that the town won't want revealed. Are you hinting at a passive role here? 'Yes' or 'no' will suffice. Yes.
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Post by Jules on Dec 20, 2012 8:34:01 GMT -4
Vote: Sally
I KNOW you have an active role. The lie is indicative for me.
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Post by SalTal on Dec 20, 2012 8:36:40 GMT -4
Vote: SallyI KNOW you have an active role. The lie is indicative for me. This is going to be hard to believe, but I am not clear on what your definition of an active.passive. I relate them to the gaining of information, not necessarily visiting someone in a night. Seriously, you're going to regret going here. If you lynch me, KJE will die tonight.
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Post by Jules on Dec 20, 2012 9:08:46 GMT -4
Vote: SallyI KNOW you have an active role. The lie is indicative for me. This is going to be hard to believe, but I am not clear on what your definition of an active.passive. I relate them to the gaining of information, not necessarily visiting someone in a night. Seriously, you're going to regret going here. If you lynch me, KJE will die tonight. Nice. Really nice attempt to deflect the facts. I don't buy that 'my definition of active' line. You even said yourself, by inciting Occam's Razor, the simplest explanation is usually the best one. Sally, you lied. Only scum have reason to lie. My vote stands.
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Post by Jules on Dec 20, 2012 9:10:53 GMT -4
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Post by Level-Two on Dec 20, 2012 9:11:34 GMT -4
Sally, a passive role is when you don't need to send in a night action every night.
As for everything else, I seriously don't know what the fuck is going on anymore. I'm leaning towards Sally only because she was quiet until Jeff cleared her and then immediately started to speak up and lead the town... but now I'm seeing Finnish Phenom is having a Terry styled meltdown now for no reason.
I'm starting to feel as if people are starting to use this ''Lynch me please!'' strategy since it worked for him - probably genuinely. However, if anyone is waiting for me to vote myself you can fuck right off in advance.
I'd like to hear a little more from Jules as far as Sally is concerned. At the end of the day, one of them is getting my vote.
Still a question, Sally. Last day phase you said you thought there were four scum. I think that's a weird claim in general but I don't understand why your first reaction is to then either lynch me or Phenom - rather then at least first address the claim you made 24 hours ago? If your theory was correct, we could ALL be town.
Though, I don't think that's the case. I just find it interesting. If your scum, I'd assume that statement was to look more pro town by appearing to be overtly ignorant to the workings of the scum team.
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Post by Jules on Dec 20, 2012 9:12:17 GMT -4
EBWOP
Sorry again for triple posting. I've got more to add here, but I have to pop out to do some Xmas shopping. I'll be back.
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Post by SalTal on Dec 20, 2012 9:13:45 GMT -4
This is going to be hard to believe, but I am not clear on what your definition of an active.passive. I relate them to the gaining of information, not necessarily visiting someone in a night. Seriously, you're going to regret going here. If you lynch me, KJE will die tonight. Nice. Really nice attempt to deflect the facts. I don't buy that 'my definition of active' line. You even said yourself, by inciting Occam's Razor, the simplest explanation is usually the best one. Sally, you lied. Only scum have reason to lie. My vote stands. lol, that's twice something I've said is coming back to bite me. Fair point. But if it's not a lie, then by your own logic, I'm not scum. If I can think of a way to definitively prove that it's not a lie. Ugh, I should probably just get as close to role claim as I can to get KJE through the night? What is the most important role for a town that does not yield information? Hint: Someone with this role has already died this game, which is one reason why I've stayed mute on it - having two of these would have been great, but having one is still good. I didn't deflect any facts, by the way. If you want to get into a 'you lied' slinging match, we can. But I didn't. I addressed the miscommunication that we had. If I deflected, I wouldn't have addressed that. But I'm not about to jump on you for that.
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