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Post by Leon Roberts on Feb 12, 2013 17:22:16 GMT -4
I learned some rather unfortunate news. Read the entire article from the link below www.lordsofpain.net/news/wwe/Wrestling_Dropped_From_The_2020_Olympic_Games.htmlWhat that basically means, is yes, the Olympic committie wants to drop wrestling from their events. And they give no proper justification for it. While I do understand that wrestling at the Olympics, and what we see every week is, for the most part, different (and that is basically taking away the acting), as a fan, I'm not liking this... Not to mention that it's horrible for business. Why do I say that? Well think of it this way...Wrestling IS the original Olympic sport, both from the ancient greek games, to the modern games (dating back to the first modern Olympic games in 1896). Needless to say...the IOC have officially joined about 3/4 of the world, especially the corporate world...they're officially fucken idiots. What do you guys think about this bullshit? |
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Post by Michael Callahan on Feb 12, 2013 17:32:56 GMT -4
Good riddance. The Olympics should be about real sport. None of that fake and gay wrestling shit.
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Post by Michael Callahan on Feb 12, 2013 17:35:42 GMT -4
And by that I mean, this is a fucking travesty. Wrestling is as much a part of the olympics as the five rings and the torch. It's not the olympics without it. The fact they're considering putting in crap like Wu Shu in as a competitive combat sport rather than the ORIGINAL olympic combat sport is BS. What's even more insulting is that they think to drop that and not Volleyball or Beach Volleyball, neither of which are remotely deserving of being olympic sports and are only included to grab male interest. And let's face it, we have gymnastics from that. Rie Tanaka.... oghhhgh -drool-  |
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Post by Reaver on Feb 12, 2013 17:41:20 GMT -4
LOL callahan i wanna see wat people think about this. as a HS wrestler who always wanted to go to the olympics (now 30  ) its just bullshit. how does skeet shooting and horse dancing stay while wrestling goes? but i guess wrestling isnt nearly as physically demanding as the others rite? #sarcasm |
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Post by Michael Callahan on Feb 12, 2013 17:43:22 GMT -4
LOL callahan i wanna see wat people think about this. as a HS wrestler who always wanted to go to the olympics (now 30 ) its just bullshit. how does skeet shooting and horse dancing stay while wrestling goes? but i guess wrestling isnt nearly as physically demanding as the others rite? #sarcasm They must've looked back and thought "That bald dude won the gold in 96 with a broken neck. Clearly this sport isn't very challenging. Let's make way for olympic swingball instead." |
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Post by Jason Cashe on Feb 12, 2013 17:53:52 GMT -4
I'm not seeing it Callahan...Drool? To each his own. This whole thing with Wrestling and Olympics, it's just another way Greed and Ignorance of Power has shifted to make "Change".
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Post by Reaver on Feb 12, 2013 17:54:35 GMT -4
they also consider adding rollerblading as the new upcoming event. WTF?!
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Post by Michael Callahan on Feb 12, 2013 17:59:18 GMT -4
they also consider adding rollerblading as the new upcoming event. WTF?! Are you serious? They have BMXing and now this shit? It's not the fucking X-Games. Leave the Olympics for the REAL sports. |
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Post by Reaver on Feb 12, 2013 18:06:32 GMT -4
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Post by Michael Callahan on Feb 12, 2013 19:13:56 GMT -4
I'm not seeing it Callahan...Drool? To each his own. This whole thing with Wrestling and Olympics, it's just another way Greed and Ignorance of Power has shifted to make "Change". It's particular to me. I like Asian girls. Spesh if they're flexible. |
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Post by Jules on Feb 12, 2013 21:04:17 GMT -4
I've got no interest in Olympic wrestling, just looks like two blokes rolling around on a mat, but there are many Olympic sports that don't entertain me, and that doesn't detract from their merit as Olympic sports. However, this is sadly an example of how the Olympic ethos has been eroded by money from sponsorship and commercialism.
I think the Olympics should be about celebrating the sports that are part of its original culture, as well as celebrating sports that don't usually have a global platform, old and new. It's funny how people show their prejudices when they this sport or that sport shouldn't be included. I've got no interest in sports like shooting or equestrianism, but they are an essential part of the Olympic fabric. My own view is that sports like football (soccer), as much as I love the sport, tennis and basketball ought to be removed; not only are the participants of these sports so far removed from the original 'amateur' ethos of Olympic sport, but these sports get plenty of exposure already: football and tennis across the whole globe, Basketball in North America and Eastern Europe.
I feel for those would-be Olympic wrestlers whose dreams have been shattered. The level of this scandal is only compounded by the fact the IOC have allowed golf in as an Olympic sport (as well as continuing to support aforementioned commercial sports).
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Post by Cid Phoenix 2013 on Feb 13, 2013 4:50:55 GMT -4
I was in High School and wanted to go Olymipic with wrestling. Those dreams got dashed, so I became a semi-pro wrestler, which really didn't work for me, so I became a male stripper & gigolo instead. Hey, it's all rough going until the old ladies pay you lots AND take out the teeth!  |
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Post by Jason Cashe on Feb 13, 2013 13:37:38 GMT -4
Callahan..that last comment had me laughing so hard man! Haha! You are the MAN!
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Post by Reaver on Feb 13, 2013 13:42:54 GMT -4
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Post by Jason Cashe on Feb 13, 2013 13:49:38 GMT -4
They better add Double Dutch or I'm REALLY gonna be mad! I truthfully don't care and most times don't watch too much of the Olympics. MMA should be in the Olympics, Amateur Wrestling is outdated in Modern Times Media so I get it but it's also retarded. Bring in MMA not GOLF to replace Wrestling...
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Post by Reaver on Feb 19, 2013 18:29:42 GMT -4
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Post by "The Welsh Dragon" Dan White on Feb 20, 2013 17:25:21 GMT -4
If they decide to replace the wrestling with Twenty20 Cricket then we p much have the greatest lineup of sports going. With Rugby Sevens at the next Olympics, it's all gonna be ace.
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Post by Jules on Feb 20, 2013 18:14:53 GMT -4
The last thing we need is MORE T20 cricket. I agree Rugby 7s is a good addition, it's not played by the top pros and it's an exciting spectacle, therefore deserves some global exposure.
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Post by Reaver on Feb 20, 2013 20:58:36 GMT -4
but to give either of those a spot over wrestling? pfft
its ok to add them as long as wrestling gets its spot back. it should never have been taken off in the first place.
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Post by Nathaniel Havok on Feb 20, 2013 22:02:28 GMT -4
They better add Double Dutch or I'm REALLY gonna be mad! This quote alone... Best.Quote.Ever. |
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Post by "The Welsh Dragon" Dan White on Feb 21, 2013 18:09:09 GMT -4
but to give either of those a spot over wrestling? pfft its ok to add them as long as wrestling gets its spot back. it should never have been taken off in the first place. Well they probably don't take these decisions lightly. But things like interest in the sport, both participant wise, attendance wise and television audience wise I'm guessing are lower than in the past. Add to that the competition wrestling has nowadays. I'm not saying MMA will ever become an Olympic sport and I hope it doesn't but it's definitely a rival that's put a nail into the coffin of wrestling, cos it's influenced other sports like Tae Kwon Do (which, at the event I go to anyways, has seen an immense rise in people signing up in the last two years). BMX is wicked to watch. Have you actually seen the races? They're amazing. Proper Olympic spectacle. Problem is that there are so many popular sports nowadays, yet the Olympics will only allow for 17 disciplines, is it? They really need to add about three more permanently. I'm not saying Baseball or Softball should come back because they absolutely shouldn't, but the fact that they were considering ditching Windsurfing for Kitesurfing says it all. |
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Post by Jules on Feb 21, 2013 18:20:36 GMT -4
but to give either of those a spot over wrestling? pfft its ok to add them as long as wrestling gets its spot back. it should never have been taken off in the first place. Well they probably don't take these decisions lightly. But things like interest in the sport, both participant wise, attendance wise and television audience wise I'm guessing are lower than in the past. Add to that the competition wrestling has nowadays. I'm not saying MMA will ever become an Olympic sport and I hope it doesn't but it's definitely a rival that's put a nail into the coffin of wrestling, cos it's influenced other sports like Tae Kwon Do (which, at the event I go to anyways, has seen an immense rise in people signing up in the last two years). BMX is wicked to watch. Have you actually seen the races? They're amazing. Proper Olympic spectacle. Problem is that there are so many popular sports nowadays, yet the Olympics will only allow for 17 disciplines, is it? They really need to add about three more permanently. I'm not saying Baseball or Softball should come back because they absolutely shouldn't, but the fact that they were considering ditching Windsurfing for Kitesurfing says it all. It may have as much to do with participation as anything else. Admittedly, I'm not an expert but the US and the old Soviet Bloc aside, how many countries participate in wrestling? No doubt there is a lot of politics involved. I read somewhere that this move may even be due to the strength of Chinese influence and the fight for supremacy on the medal's table, especially as wrestling is traditionally a big medals earner for the Yanks and the Russians. Can't remember the source, I looked again, but couldn't find it, and I'm not spending all day about it. |
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Post by "The Welsh Dragon" Dan White on Feb 21, 2013 19:04:51 GMT -4
It's a fair point though. Like when looking at our (GB) medal chances in the combat sports I expected to get a lot of medals in boxing, and one or two in judo. I didn't even bother looking at our wrestling chances just cos I don't care about it whatsoever.
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Post by Reaver on Feb 22, 2013 13:47:45 GMT -4
It's a fair point though. Like when looking at our (GB) medal chances in the combat sports I expected to get a lot of medals in boxing, and one or two in judo. I didn't even bother looking at our wrestling chances just cos I don't care about it whatsoever. u must have been that guy who was a male cheerleader in HS cuz u couldnt handle real sports... www.spike.com/articles/wg7wez/why-the-ioc-voted-wrestling-out-and-what-you-can-do-about-it^^this was why |
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Post by Level-Two on Feb 22, 2013 14:37:54 GMT -4
Feel sorry for the people who can't compete. I don't give a fuck about the Olympics, however.
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Post by Jason Cashe on Feb 22, 2013 14:41:33 GMT -4
With no Olympics for Wrestlers, MMA and Pro Wrestling get more prospects. I say it's a fair trade if more Athletes come into both those sports. Legitimize Pro Wrestling with more real Wrestlers and MMA gets some studded fucking Grapplers which to me is the BEST base to start an MMA career with so all in all I think it hurts the Games more than it will hurt the Athletes.
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Post by Level-Two on Feb 22, 2013 15:51:24 GMT -4
With no Olympics for Wrestlers, MMA and Pro Wrestling get more prospects. I say it's a fair trade if more Athletes come into both those sports. Legitimize Pro Wrestling with more real Wrestlers and MMA gets some studded fucking Grapplers which to me is the BEST base to start an MMA career with so all in all I think it hurts the Games more than it will hurt the Athletes. This is not true at all. It actually hurts the sport of MMA and probably wrestling too. A lot of wrestling Olympic athletes go into MMA and Wrestling BECAUSE there is money there that isn't there with the Olympics. And what about after the Olympics? There's jackshit. Without wrestling in the Olympics, that transition won't even be available. Look at the top fighters in the UFC right now with a wrestling base... they NEVER planned on fighting MMA. |
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Post by T-Marv on Feb 22, 2013 16:38:37 GMT -4
Just a quick thought(I don't know if it's been stated yet)
Sports where the Olympics isn't your MAIN big event(World Series, NBA championships, Wimbleton, World Cup) shouldn't now nor ever be in the Olympics. They have their own spotlights, and should be pushed aside for other sports.
THat's all.
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Post by Jason Cashe on Feb 22, 2013 16:55:52 GMT -4
Not always the case L1, College Wrestling is still a huge event. National Wrestling Titles is what brought Lesnar into WWE's sights. Angle was the only one who has Olympic exposure and only cause he wrestled with a fouled up neck. I know of at least one TOP Wrestler who turned down MMA because he wanted to compete in the Olympics. So now with that gone, he could turn around and make the money joining MMA and get competition on a new level or sit and just compete in World Competition which I believe still takes place.
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Post by Level-Two on Feb 22, 2013 17:06:39 GMT -4
I know there is still college/national wrestling... but taking it out of the Olympics is just one less avenue a potential wrestler could take.
So is that guy you know now going to sign a contract with a MMA org now that wrestling is no longer in the Olympics?
Simply put... wrestling not in the Olympics = less wrestlers = less prospects for MMA.
Sports moms will push their kids into different sports.
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) its just bullshit. how does skeet shooting and horse dancing stay while wrestling goes? but i guess wrestling isnt nearly as physically demanding as the others rite? #sarcasm
