Rocky Mafia Game Thread (Day Five)

[Level-Two]

In closing, since this banter with JamesV's posts are really just for my own selfish pleasure...

My recommendation:

Watch Buckson Gooch - This pretty much needs to happen to end the debate once and for all.

Doctor - Me, Terry or Gooch. If the watcher does his job we won't need to worry about Gooch's doc protection; but it doesn't hurt to be sure, either. It's up to you.

Tracker - Track JamesV.

Buckson Gooch - Investigate yourself. If you believe your sane (which you are) investigate JamesV.

If Buckson self investigates; I will be voting and advocating a JamesV lynch provided we don't have anything better from the night results.

That's about all I have to say.

[Michael Jennings]

Lol at Level One ordering people around again. Only furthers my points.

[Level-Two]

Mar 8, 2013 0:00:05 GMT -4 Michael Jennings said:

Lol at Level One ordering people around again. Only furthers my points.

LOL at you not understanding what the word recommendation means. Good god...

Secondly, I said it was my last post but... Hold the phone... Johnny Knuckles.

How do you go from saying we lynch JamesV to saying if he flips town... then we just nail Level-One?

I at no point said that I knew JamesV to be scum. This isn't one of those situations. His alignment is irrelevant to mine in every way shape or forum.

You've just bumped yourself up HIGH on my list, Knuckles.

[The Soul Of Philly]

got back from school, stoppepd at the bar. Gonna catch some z's then comment on this all tomorrow. A lot to take in, too much for me atm.

[Pepsi]

Mar 8, 2013 0:03:55 GMT -4 Level-Two said:

Mar 8, 2013 0:00:05 GMT -4 Michael Jennings said:

Lol at Level One ordering people around again. Only furthers my points.

LOL at you not understanding what the word recommendation means. Good god...

Secondly, I said it was my last post but... Hold the phone... Johnny Knuckles.

How do you go from saying we lynch JamesV to saying if he flips town... then we just nail Level-One?

I at no point said that I knew JamesV to be scum. This isn't one of those situations. His alignment is irrelevant to mine in every way shape or forum.

You've just bumped yourself up HIGH on my list, Knuckles.

This is what I was seeing with Knuckles before. He has so far tried to throw suspicion me, James, and Chaz. He puts out random posts that offer very little explanation to why we should suspect people, and never follows up on it when the person defends themselves. It seems an awful lot like he's just trying to cause chaos.

I have never played with him before, and maybe it's just his style, but his erratic play thus far has raised questions in my mind.

Why if James V flips town does that automatically make Level One the target? Especially when you are one of the one's trying to lobby the idea that it isn't necessary for Gooch to check his sanity. If Gooch is clear in your eyes, and he cleared Level One as town, why on Earth would we lynch Level One. There is no logic in this.

F.O.S. Knuckles

Again, maybe it's just your style, but you have now made 3 posts that have caught my attention as odd.

[Reaver]

lol go ahead u wont find anything. the point is that james has been scummy since the beginning and given my history with him, it wouldnt surprise me at all. we have a few new players so i been sitting back a lil to see wat is up.

u can follow me or not idc but the fact is that with all the banter, i believe L-O at the moment over james.

[Michael Jennings]

I actually agree with Level One about knuckles. That's what I call a typical scum set up move right there.

[papapancho]

Mar 8, 2013 0:47:53 GMT -4 Pepsi said:

Mar 8, 2013 0:03:55 GMT -4 Level-Two said:

LOL at you not understanding what the word recommendation means. Good god...

Secondly, I said it was my last post but... Hold the phone... Johnny Knuckles.

How do you go from saying we lynch JamesV to saying if he flips town... then we just nail Level-One?

I at no point said that I knew JamesV to be scum. This isn't one of those situations. His alignment is irrelevant to mine in every way shape or forum.

You've just bumped yourself up HIGH on my list, Knuckles.

This is what I was seeing with Knuckles before. He has so far tried to throw suspicion me, James, and Chaz. He puts out random posts that offer very little explanation to why we should suspect people, and never follows up on it when the person defends themselves. It seems an awful lot like he's just trying to cause chaos.

I have never played with him before, and maybe it's just his style, but his erratic play thus far has raised questions in my mind.

Why if James V flips town does that automatically make Level One the target? Especially when you are one of the one's trying to lobby the idea that it isn't necessary for Gooch to check his sanity. If Gooch is clear in your eyes, and he cleared Level One as town, why on Earth would we lynch Level One. There is no logic in this.

F.O.S. Knuckles

Again, maybe it's just your style, but you have now made 3 posts that have caught my attention as odd.

QFT ... The really odd thing L1 hasn't even dropped a vote on James yet so it's not like their juxtaposed by their votes. That's what me and James are having voted for each other.

[Reaver]

Mar 8, 2013 1:25:01 GMT -4 Michael Jennings said:

I actually agree with Level One about knuckles. That's what I call a typical scum set up move right there.

this rite here says it all. somebody else's name is dropped and james jumps all over it like a dog in heat. looking to take the heat off urself jamsey poo? time to continue our usual bickering like EVERY game except it wasnt me who called u out, L-O beat me to the punch and its obvious he is rite.....

[Pepsi]

Mar 8, 2013 1:24:49 GMT -4 Reaver said:

lol go ahead u wont find anything. the point is that james has been scummy since the beginning and given my history with him, it wouldnt surprise me at all. we have a few new players so i been sitting back a lil to see wat is up.

u can follow me or not idc but the fact is that with all the banter, i believe L-O at the moment over james.

Great to know, but I am still wondering why you would suggest going after Level One if James flips town. Gooch cleared him and you have stated you believe Gooch to be a sane cop, in the same breath you said Level One should be the target if James shows up as town. There is no logic in this whatsoever. Do you care to explain your thought process?

[Michael Jennings]

Mar 8, 2013 1:34:14 GMT -4 Reaver said:

Mar 8, 2013 1:25:01 GMT -4 Michael Jennings said:

I actually agree with Level One about knuckles. That's what I call a typical scum set up move right there.

this rite here says it all. somebody else's name is dropped and james jumps all over it like a dog in heat. looking to take the heat off urself jamsey poo? time to continue our usual bickering like EVERY game except it wasnt me who called u out, L-O beat me to the punch and its obvious he is rite.....

Hey Knuckles, when you actually learn how to play mafia instead of making an ass of yourself with a post like this one ill take you more seriously as a mafia player. The only thing you've done in this game is BADLY try to set up Level One and get caught doing it. Right now the only thing that's obvious is you are trying to set up both a lynch on me and a lynch on Level One down the line. Scum play? I think so.

My history with you has nothing to do with this. Your history of bad mafia play is more of a factor in this if anything. This whole day base and your play on it is a prime example of what I'm talking about.

[KJE]

When it comes to JamesV... there is nothing more to say. Hes playing just how he did when he was being voted off last time around. Claiming he knew who people were just to save his ass... and he was scum. Nice try James, but not this time buddy.

What happens with you will come after people can clear or not clear you. Until then... im done with it.

[Michael Jennings]

Mar 8, 2013 3:58:19 GMT -4 KJE said:

When it comes to JamesV... there is nothing more to say. Hes playing just how he did when he was being voted off last time around. Claiming he knew who people were just to save his ass... and he was scum. Nice try James, but not this time buddy.

What happens with you will come after people can clear or not clear you. Until then... im done with it

Lol do you even know how I play? Because if you did you'd realize how absurdly wrong tis post is. And last time I did know who McClain was but of course you're going to ognore that to try and throw out some more BS propaganda. Level One can verify that as well. I also like how your continuing to try to blend in with this activity post that appears to have some points bu really is just a rehash of the comments made by others. I put out a suspects list which you were on and now you're running out of ideas to slander me with do saying I'm doing all of this to save my ass is your weak response to what I've said. I only have one vote on me so how am I trying to save myself? If I had three or four your have a point but with having only one vote on me it basically nullifies your entire point and weakens your town credibility considering that you've got little heat on you but are reacting in this way which is unchracteristic for your play style.

[T-Marv]

Here's what I don't get.

Everyone is so sure on James (and I'm not saying they're right or wrong, I've got my own oppinions) but NOBODY is willing to throw a vote on him as of yet.

Anybody else finding that extremely fishy.

[The Soul Of Philly]

Yes terry I find it very intriguing, at least one scum is in on James, maybe even throwing a vote down.

I'm thinking James is town, then again it's been quite a while since I saw him play as town, but he makes a valid point when it comes to l1 level of clearance, but as valid as it is, I thinking the necessity for gooch to check himself is very low almost nonexistent.

There's a couple people of interest that I'm seeing besides Chaz so we all have to do some figuring out as far as night actions. I think l1s RECOMMENDATION is a good guide to follow, if Chaz is NK proof, and if the scum is experienced, there gonna go after the experienced players again. After what's happened today. I think terry is gonna be there target he was cleared an he's experienced. If I were the watcher he'd be the one I'd watch. But alas I'm not the watcher.

If I don't check in before the end of the day phase. Good luck everyone and use your powers wisely.

[Level-Two]

The reason why it's important for the watcher to watch Buckson Gooch is so they can see anyone who tries to role block him or visit him. I also don't know if the Mafia has a framer either - so I don't need the mafia altering his role either.

If we're worried about Terry being killed... then doc him.

As for Terry, I don't think it was directed to me but just so we're clear; I didn't vote for James because all my suspicion against him has been circumstantial and at this point in the game it's important to depend on night results rather than banter. I have also been in this position before and it usually ends in a dead townie and egg on my face; so I need to remind myself of that.

Furthermore, I actually think Knuckles is right up there now because he was buttering me up the entire day phase only to try to throw me under the bus with his JamesV vote somehow trying to tie to me; it's like he knew JamesV was town already.

[Reaver]

im not trying to butter u up. the fact is people trying to get gooch to check himself which makes no sense to me. having him use his NA on himself would ensure nobody ELSE to be checked and it diverts things in the scums favor. yes watch him but have him check somebody else not himself. check me for all i care feel free. u wont find anything and james using this same ploy to throw people off, by being in their faces gets old really quick.

notice how the insults came pretty quick? "learn to play" ya thats about rite. L-O isnt this aggressive as scum and normally id say james would be town given how many times he has been scum recently but also keep in mind that i havnt played the last few games and this is going off the observation of this game being back.

i also wanna point out something else but itll wait until the next day phase. call me scummy all u like but i wanna see the NA's first b4 moving with it.

[Level-Two]

We agree 100% on that part.

Again, you trying to link me to a JamesV vote and lynch is what I have a problem with. Clearly, unacceptable and I see you as likely scum now until you're cleared. If you're town aligned, I don't know what the fuck you were thinking when you did that. In fact, I can't fathom how it's possible unless you were up to no good.

[T-Marv]

Wasn't aimed at you Level One, more aimed at the people piling on using your explainations as thier own and STILL not voting. It just seems not right to me.

I have a feeling that I will die tonight which is ok as long as there's a watcher or doc on me.

[Reaver]

i wasnt pushing for a lynch on u. wat i was saying is that ur neck was the 1 on the line since u put urself out there against james. chances r that people would see u as the next target if for some reason james flips town. it has everything to do with credibility. y would u throw urself out there so easily unless u were willing to take the bead that it comes with? if that makes any sense?

[Level-Two]

Mar 8, 2013 13:12:42 GMT -4 Reaver said:

i wasnt pushing for a lynch on u. wat i was saying is that ur neck was the 1 on the line since u put urself out there against james. chances r that people would see u as the next target if for some reason james flips town. it has everything to do with credibility. y would u throw urself out there so easily unless u were willing to take the bead that it comes with? if that makes any sense?

That's the thing. I wasn't ''throwing'' myself anywhere. I never ONCE advocated that we lynch JamesV right now.

I said I WOULD advocate a lynch on JamesV tomorrow if I was cleared a second time and we had no new info. And when I said I WOULD advocate a lynch on JamesV... you had already posted what you posted.

My neck wasn't on the line at all... you just said it was. You pushed for a lynch on JamesV harder than I ever did. Yes, I thought and still think JamesV was a top suspect but the back and forth banter wasn't necessary, I did it because it was fun - gets people talking - and makes this game interesting.

You ''vote'' for JamesV and then you tried to pin the end result and focus me, period. Which was a horrible move considering nobody is ready for a JamesV lynch today.

[Pepsi]

Mar 7, 2013 23:49:08 GMT -4 Reaver said:

again i will say this:

not every flavor needs a cop to check for sanity nite 1. it makes no sense for a "rocky mafia" to have 1 cop and him b insane. LA Noire, ya cuz there were more than 1 cop. nobody has said that they were a cop other than gooch coming out with the info he has. therefore its safe to say we have 1 cop.

u can argue all u like but at this point ur rambling and trying to stall.

vote: JamesV

worst case scenario and u come clean, then we nail L-O. his head is on the chopping block just as is urs.

Knuckles, you are avoiding this statement which was clear. In case you don't know which I am referring to, I will be clear. You said "worst case scenario and u come clean, then we NAIL L-O."

This is you blatantly stating that Level One should be lynched if James is town. In the exact same post you are stating Gooch is likely sane and it's unnecessary for him to check his sanity, and Gooch cleared Level One.

So for the third time now let me ask, why would we NAIL Level One if James is town?

[Reaver]

because thats always been the pattern here pepsi or r u that new?

i see my fos in the beginning is still correct. y r u continuing this pursuit on me? i said it alrdy, idc if people think im scummy but wat im doing seems to be working.

[Michael Jennings]

Mar 8, 2013 14:43:49 GMT -4 Reaver said:

because thats always been the pattern here pepsi or r u that new?

i see my fos in the beginning is still correct. y r u continuing this pursuit on me? i said it alrdy, idc if people think im scummy but wat im doing seems to be working.

Pepsi is doing that because of your gameplay which is scummy as hell, bottom line. At this point I'm starting to think that you're the scum in this situation and that L-O is more than likely town after that stunt you pulled trying to set him up if I came back as town.

[Reaver]

Mar 8, 2013 15:26:59 GMT -4 Michael Jennings said:

Mar 8, 2013 14:43:49 GMT -4 Reaver said:

because thats always been the pattern here pepsi or r u that new?

i see my fos in the beginning is still correct. y r u continuing this pursuit on me? i said it alrdy, idc if people think im scummy but wat im doing seems to be working.

Pepsi is doing that because of your gameplay which is scummy as hell, bottom line. At this point I'm starting to think that you're the scum in this situation and that L-O is more than likely town after that stunt you pulled trying to set him up if I came back as town.

and u constantly throwing ur weight around here isnt? you know me well james and KNOW when im really scum. this aint 1 of those times and ur using it as an excuse to stall and keep the focus off of u. but u go ahead and keep the pressure on me all u like if it helps u sleep at nite. maybe u and the rest of the scum team can get a good laugh from this before we catch u all.

[Pepsi]

Mar 8, 2013 14:43:49 GMT -4 Reaver said:

because thats always been the pattern here pepsi or r u that new?

i see my fos in the beginning is still correct. y r u continuing this pursuit on me? i said it alrdy, idc if people think im scummy but wat im doing seems to be working.

I am sorry, I am trying to understand what you are trying to say, but I still can't reconcile why you would argue that Gooch is likely sane, but still think Level One should be the target if James is town. Does that means Gooch and Level One are scum?

My pursuit on ou is based on clear contradictions like this. If You are assuming Gooch is sane, which you are, then you should believe him when he clears someone like Level One, which he did. What alignment James V should have no effect on this. If Gooch is a sane cop, then Level One should be cleared in your mind period.

I am not just going to pass over clear lack of logic that only serves to confuse people.

[A.C. Smith]

That's the deadline; sorry for posting a hair late. Day two ends in a NO LYNCH.

Send in your night actions now; deadline is 2 p.m. Eastern time Saturday afternoon.

[A.C. Smith]

Evening. We find ourselves at Rocky's restaurant, named after Adrian Balboa. It's done a fantastic business in the city of brotherly love, and every so often, Rocky Balboa himself pops in to go around and pose for pictures with the clientele.

This is one of those nights, and as he goes around, he approaches a table housing Mason “The Line” Dixon and his entourage.

Rocky: “Mason! How's it going?”

Mason: “Good to see you, Rocky. You doing alright? I know you and Marie were close.”

Rocky: “Yeah. Yeah, I'm getting there. You guys order yet?”

Mason: “Yeah, a while ago. Haven't gotten our food yet, though, not even the apps.”

Rocky: “Really? That's unusual. I'll go back and check.”

Rocky speed-walks back towards the kitchen and opens the door. Instead of a bustling, assembly line-like structure, though, the cooks are shocked as they look back towards the back wall.

We see why, as Spider Rico, a head line cook and former journeyman boxer, is hanging by his neck from a pipe near the ceiling.

Rocky: “NO!!!!!”

Rocky whips out a cell phone and calls the cops, but hangs up when he sees Adrian in the corner of the kitchen.

Adrian: “Rocky.”

Rocky: “Adrian! You gotta leave, quick.”

Adrian: “You don't have to shield me. I know what's happening with you and George Washington Duke.

And Rocky? I know what happened here.”

Rocky's eyebrows go halfway up his forehead as we hear the faint sound of police sirens, ones that get louder as we fade to black.

DEAD: Spider Rico, KJE, Vanilla Townie

ALIVE PLAYERS

1) T-Marv
2) Callahan
3) Pepsi
4) Mark Mania
5) Knuckles
6) Johnny Rebel
7) L-1
8) TJ
9) Roy Speede
10) JamesV
11) Gooch
12) Havok
13) papapancho
14) Trevor Hyatt

Day three begins NOW, and will end at 2 p.m. Eastern time on TUESDAY, MARCH 11.

With 14 players alive, it takes EIGHT votes for a lynch.

[Reaver]

Mar 8, 2013 15:39:08 GMT -4 Pepsi said:

Mar 8, 2013 14:43:49 GMT -4 Reaver said:

because thats always been the pattern here pepsi or r u that new?

i see my fos in the beginning is still correct. y r u continuing this pursuit on me? i said it alrdy, idc if people think im scummy but wat im doing seems to be working.

I am sorry, I am trying to understand what you are trying to say, but I still can't reconcile why you would argue that Gooch is likely sane, but still think Level One should be the target if James is town. Does that means Gooch and Level One are scum?

My pursuit on ou is based on clear contradictions like this. If You are assuming Gooch is sane, which you are, then you should believe him when he clears someone like Level One, which he did. What alignment James V should have no effect on this. If Gooch is a sane cop, then Level One should be cleared in your mind period.

I am not just going to pass over clear lack of logic that only serves to confuse people.

i was ripping my hair out after this.....


i NEVER said he was insane nor have i ever implied it. not to mention i DO believe him. i specifically said that he needed to check somebody else instead of himself cuz it would be a waste of a NA and give the scum the advantage. i dunno how much more clear i could have been. its statements like that that keep me thinking that u r just repeating urself to stall and cause confusion. i also said that L-O was simply putting himself out there, y? cuz he is confident enough and has proven to be town and gooch confirmed it. ur trying to twist my words and it obvious who's side ur on.

now im very interested as to wat happened last nite so we can piece this shit together.

[Buckson Gooch]

I can clear Johnny Knuckles as town.