Game of Thrones Mafia - Day 3 (17 Alive)

[Level-Two]

Just for the record, I standby my suspicions on Knuckles as I perceived his post to be a scum tell - he followed it up immediately by saying I was attacking him. Which is hilarious because I didn't even push hard for anything at all based on the fact it's day one.

His response posts are also something I have noted as suspicious as he seems to try to laugh everything off and refrain from any sort of confrontation.

I didn't even have much of a problem with his silencer theory, although it did strike me odd. I'm more so concerned with what appeared to be a failed attempt to blend in with the town.

Needless to say, with the numbers we're looking at; there's a good chance these suspicions are right on the money. Though, I refuse to participate or push any lynches this early. Period.

[The Soul Of Philly]

And if he does have the role or anyone else for that matter, we're going to make sure that everyone is going to check in during the day phase throughout the game, the rules state that a player must be active in teh gametopic so no scum can just sit idle by in the QT and pretend to be silenced.

I'm not saying you're claims aren't valid, I just don't see them as such. And yes this game is fantasy like Lord of the Rings, you really think there isn't magic, which could be used as a silencer of some sort? Given that, in many writings and such of dragons, magic isn't too far behind.

Doing some research, in the books there are in fact magic, tied to the dragons, and seeing how there ARE dragons in this game, see the sixth paragraph of the write up, it's possible. Really what do we know at this point.

- Three anti- town factions.
- Dragons
- 9 confirmed characters, 3 town, 2 mafia, 2 purp third party and 2 blue third party.
- 20 players

That's all we know, everything else is theory, suspicion and gut feelings. On day one, that's not enough to me to go one way or another. That's just me.

I've done a small bit of research on the characters and there are many character not named that followed the named leaders of the factions. I know JUles said something like a 13 town to 7 anti town split or something, but is something like 8 town to 12 anti town given that these aren't align factions, rather split? In my research it seems like these four groups are kinda going at each other for the region, so would 4 seperate factions be out of the question really? I'm seriously asking, trying to figure out what we're up against here.

[Chris Shields]

Given the flavor, I would say it's very possible that there's 4 separate factions. Especially if this is going in between seasons/book 2 and 3. You've got Daenarys, Stannis, Cersei, The Starks, & The Greyjoys all fighting for the Iron Throne in the show/books. Given that and the write up. I'd say we could be looking at a town of say 12, a mafia of 3 or 4, and then two 3rd party groups that could have as few as 1 or as many as 3 in each. Obviously that's all hypothetical, but it's day 1 so what better time to talk about things like this? It's not like we have anything other than talking, hunches, and hypothesizing.

[Nathaniel Havok]

Mar 20, 2013 22:06:31 GMT -4 Michael Jennings said:

Mar 20, 2013 21:33:12 GMT -4 The Soul Of Philly said:

Good lord, James, down boy. I think Knuckles is just doing what everyone else did when we had two lie detector roles and they played quite the impact on the games, he's making a point about the possibility of the roles. I don't think anyone is really playing suspicious atm, but that's just me.

Bullshit. He SPECIFICALLY mentionned a silencer in a situation. There was no reason for him to mention that role at all other than to start paranoia and get people worried about a role that may or may not be in the game. Hell he might even have the role and posted that to mess with everyone for all you know.



You'd better sweat it scummer because all you've done is convince me of your guilt day one with your silencer post. That was THE LAST GAME. This game is entirely different. What does the last game have to do with this game? NOTHING. It just provides you with a convenient excuse when being called out on your little silencer comment. It's not medieval times, either. It's fantasy like Lord of the Rings. Two different things and I don't think there'd be a silencer in the game.

Mar 20, 2013 19:44:16 GMT -4 Nathaniel Havok said:

First, I'm not too familiar with the post restrictions in mafia (never played in a game that had post restrictions), and second, I can definitely see where people could look at Knux, based off of his "Silencer" comments.

F.o.S. Knux

With that being said... I find myself uneasy about James throwing out a very quick vote like that. Again, it's how guys like L1 and myself play, so I still understand it, and take that into account. It doesn't necessarily mean that I WON'T F.o.S. James, but I'm not going to right this second, because I do see his point of view (as I am also a very aggressive player).

You're uneasy about it? SERIOUSLY? Please, give me a break. This makes me feel like you're using this as a cop out to make an excuse for him, i.e. covertly protect him. The fact you're trying to play both sides has you on my radar.

This, in it's entirety, is an absolute meltdown (no pun intended). Dude, take a deep breath, and calm the hell down! Nobody has even FoSed you, and you're acting like you're 1 vote away from a lynch! For fuck sake, bro... Calm down. I love ya, James... But you're REALLY making a mountain out of a molehill with this one. Not about what Knux said, but about what I said.

Mountain < Molehill

[Talon]

I didn't like the statement from Knuckles and if we are thinking lynch is better than a no lynch day one (I know its a polarizing opinion) it's more interesting than anything else we've got so far. JamesV/Franchise is aggressive as hell anyways (from what I've seen in EFK, his Skip Bayless Mode) so it doesn't seem scummy to me that he's going HAM right from the start.

Just my two cents on that, but make sure you don't say "weak sauce" because that's a 100% scum tell in Franchise's book even if That's Crazy.

[T-Marv]

Vote Count:

Knuckles - 1(James V)
Gooch - 1(Talon)

[Pepsi]

I think Knuckles is playing the same way he did last time. He tends to throw out random statements with very little context. It could just be his style or personality. This doesn't mean he is town for sure, I am just saying last game he was town, and played kind of the same way as he is here. That's my 2 cents.

[Reaver]

thats cuz i dropped it L-O. i dont see it as u attacking me cuz ill no it when u do

james on the other hand, him and i always r at each others throats and this is his way of trying to get me to lose it and look bad. u guys do watcha gotta do, i wont complain trust me.

[KJE]

Mar 20, 2013 23:15:06 GMT -4 Talon said:

Just my two cents on that, but make sure you don't say "weak sauce" because that's a 100% scum tell in Franchise's book even if That's Crazy.

DOH! You said the words!

[Matt Stone]

Wow, just caught up on the thread. I'm with Talon, there are a lot of people saying that what Knux said was scummy, but no one seems to want to cast a vote (save 1) which is fine. I'm sure we'll have enough informative roles out there to get a read and I have never been an advocate of day 1 lynches without a real big slip up. I don;t know how the majority of you play, but it seems like people are already getting bent out of shape, which isn't very helpful to a logic based game. Just sayin.

[Jason Cashe]

(Been going over rules and guides for Mafia)

I get how Knuckles is under suspicion but what about Gooch? Was the seemingly joke vote something that holds water? I think either way, it might be too early to really determine anything. JamesV comes off just as quick to point fingers at Knuckles as Knuckles seems to be calm and allowing of his name being labeled scum without much defense to the accusations.

[Nathaniel Havok]

Mar 21, 2013 4:41:21 GMT -4 Jason Cashe said:

(Been going over rules and guides for Mafia)

I get how Knuckles is under suspicion but what about Gooch? Was the seemingly joke vote something that holds water? I think either way, it might be too early to really determine anything. JamesV comes off just as quick to point fingers at Knuckles as Knuckles seems to be calm and allowing of his name being labeled scum without much defense to the accusations.

Welcome to your first APW Mafia game, Mr. Kash. Allow me to be your tour guide, as I "show you the ropes" of sorts.

- Knux will ALWAYS stick his foot in his mouth.
- JamesV, Level-One, and that oh-so-handsome Nathaniel Havok, are the 3 most aggressive Mafia players that you will ever come across.
- And last but not least, joke voting on day 1 is a trend around here. It keeps day 1 as interesting as it can be.
- Joke voting is normally stopped by Knux, who sticks his foot in his mouth.

It's a vicious circle. One that you'll see time and time again.

[KJE]

Havok said it best! BUT.... Havok... You fudged it up... this is not his first rodeo

[Nathaniel Havok]

Mar 21, 2013 6:41:02 GMT -4 KJE said:

Havok said it best! BUT.... Havok... You fudged it up... this is not his first rodeo

Huh? It isn't? What did I miss!?!?

[Jules]

I'm in agreement about Knux and the silencer comment. I'm also intrigued that Knux has gone passive, which isn't usually his style. I don't see enough to warrant a vote, but he should be checked tonight (just in case).

As for James, unless he's smartened up his scumplay I'm leaning towards him being town. Yeah, his uber-aggro approach can be irritating and counter-productive at times, but it always provides useful reactions, and, most importantly, he usually plays like this when he is town.

Not saying he is cleared, so again maybe worth looking into this tonight just to make certain.

[Michael Jennings]

Mar 20, 2013 23:15:06 GMT -4 Talon said:

I didn't like the statement from Knuckles and if we are thinking lynch is better than a no lynch day one (I know its a polarizing opinion) it's more interesting than anything else we've got so far. JamesV/Franchise is aggressive as hell anyways (from what I've seen in EFK, his Skip Bayless Mode) so it doesn't seem scummy to me that he's going HAM right from the start.

Just my two cents on that, but make sure you don't say "weak sauce" because that's a 100% scum tell in Franchise's book even if That's Crazy.

So you're making jokes and see nothing suspicious about the comments?

Mar 20, 2013 22:39:05 GMT -4 Nathaniel Havok said:

Mar 20, 2013 22:06:31 GMT -4 Michael Jennings said:

Bullshit. He SPECIFICALLY mentionned a silencer in a situation. There was no reason for him to mention that role at all other than to start paranoia and get people worried about a role that may or may not be in the game. Hell he might even have the role and posted that to mess with everyone for all you know.



You'd better sweat it scummer because all you've done is convince me of your guilt day one with your silencer post. That was THE LAST GAME. This game is entirely different. What does the last game have to do with this game? NOTHING. It just provides you with a convenient excuse when being called out on your little silencer comment. It's not medieval times, either. It's fantasy like Lord of the Rings. Two different things and I don't think there'd be a silencer in the game.



You're uneasy about it? SERIOUSLY? Please, give me a break. This makes me feel like you're using this as a cop out to make an excuse for him, i.e. covertly protect him. The fact you're trying to play both sides has you on my radar.

This, in it's entirety, is an absolute meltdown (no pun intended). Dude, take a deep breath, and calm the hell down! Nobody has even FoSed you, and you're acting like you're 1 vote away from a lynch! For fuck sake, bro... Calm down. I love ya, James... But you're REALLY making a mountain out of a molehill with this one. Not about what Knux said, but about what I said.

Mountain < Molehill

If you think this is a meltdown then you need to go air a Mafia 101 refresher course and learn how to play the game, bottom line. Done yell m to calm down either. Knuckles made a major suspect comment and the fact that people are ignoring it or are brushing it off is raising major alarm bells, I.e. 7 of you at most are likely not town. So, tha said, why are you making seem like I'm having a meltdown when I'm not? Protecting a fellow anti town player by trying to make it seem like I'm having a meltdown? The entire meltdown comment s likable at best considering meltdowns involve name calling, flailing, etc.

[T-Marv]

Deadline is Noon today. (2 and a half hours)

[Michael Jennings]

Mar 20, 2013 23:53:56 GMT -4 Reaver said:

thats cuz i dropped it L-O. i dont see it as u attacking me cuz ill no it when u do

james on the other hand, him and i always r at each others throats and this is his way of trying to get me to lose it and look bad. u guys do watcha gotta do, i wont complain trust me.

This time isn't related to that. You made a comment about there being a silencer itch no evidence to there being one nor any mention of the role in the rules. That and your responses are enough for me to continue voting for you until you are cleared.

Mar 21, 2013 4:41:21 GMT -4 Jason Cashe said:

(Been going over rules and guides for Mafia)

I get how Knuckles is under suspicion but what about Gooch? Was the seemingly joke vote something that holds water? I think either way, it might be too early to really determine anything. JamesV comes off just as quick to point fingers at Knuckles as Knuckles seems to be calm and allowing of his name being labeled scum without much defense to the accusations.

There's a reason he isn't defending himself. It's obvious. It's all about keeping the votes off, i.e. passive play to appear town. Plus one time he admitting there were holes in his logic, that I was a better mafia player than him, and that he likely was wrong when I was on the offensive against him in a game. Just saying.

[Talon]

Mar 21, 2013 9:34:18 GMT -4 Michael Jennings said:

Mar 20, 2013 23:15:06 GMT -4 Talon said:

I didn't like the statement from Knuckles and if we are thinking lynch is better than a no lynch day one (I know its a polarizing opinion) it's more interesting than anything else we've got so far. JamesV/Franchise is aggressive as hell anyways (from what I've seen in EFK, his Skip Bayless Mode) so it doesn't seem scummy to me that he's going HAM right from the start.

Just my two cents on that, but make sure you don't say "weak sauce" because that's a 100% scum tell in Franchise's book even if That's Crazy.

So you're making jokes and see nothing suspicious about the comments?



This, in it's entirety, is an absolute meltdown (no pun intended). Dude, take a deep breath, and calm the hell down! Nobody has even FoSed you, and you're acting like you're 1 vote away from a lynch! For fuck sake, bro... Calm down. I love ya, James... But you're REALLY making a mountain out of a molehill with this one. Not about what Knux said, but about what I said.

Mountain < Molehill

If you think this is a meltdown then you need to go air a Mafia 101 refresher course and learn how to play the game, bottom line. Done yell m to calm down either. Knuckles made a major suspect comment and the fact that people are ignoring it or are brushing it off is raising major alarm bells, I.e. 7 of you at most are likely not town. So, tha said, why are you making seem like I'm having a meltdown when I'm not? Protecting a fellow anti town player by trying to make it seem like I'm having a meltdown? The entire meltdown comment s likable at best considering meltdowns involve name calling, flailing, etc.[/quote]

Said I didnt like the comment man, you want to take it all as a joke because I ended it with a wee inside joke, go ahead.

If I HAD to vote, I'd vote Reaver/Knuckles, but Im not feelin' it really, so I'm not gonna vote him.

[Buckson Gooch]

I'm still wondering who Batman is. Never underestimate Batman's element of surprise.

[Reaver]

LOL gooch...

james, theres more method to my madness than u realize and wats funny is that after all this time u and i go at each others throats, u still havnt gotten it.

but u go ahead and try to convince urself that wat i said made no sense. im guess that IF there is a silencer, that i might be the target (hopefully not) and i can enlighten people day 2. plz watch me?

[Pepsi]

Mar 21, 2013 12:25:02 GMT -4 Reaver said:

LOL gooch...

james, theres more method to my madness than u realize and wats funny is that after all this time u and i go at each others throats, u still havnt gotten it.

but u go ahead and try to convince urself that wat i said made no sense. im guess that IF there is a silencer, that i might be the target (hopefully not) and i can enlighten people day 2. plz watch me?

Knuckles, posts like this are you have been suspected as scum so early on 2 games in a row. You make posts in these riddles that mangle the English language and expect people to trust you. I personally am unsure if you are to be trusted or not, and am not ready to throw a vote away, but the things you say and the cryptic and abrupt way you justify yourself make you highly suspicious in my book.

F.O.S. Knuckles

I'm not ready to vote for you, and I even kind of tried to defend you a few posts back, but you just give off a scum mixer vibe with every new post.

[Pepsi]

Mar 21, 2013 12:57:24 GMT -4 Pepsi said:

Mar 21, 2013 12:25:02 GMT -4 Reaver said:

LOL gooch...

james, theres more method to my madness than u realize and wats funny is that after all this time u and i go at each others throats, u still havnt gotten it.

but u go ahead and try to convince urself that wat i said made no sense. im guess that IF there is a silencer, that i might be the target (hopefully not) and i can enlighten people day 2. plz watch me?

Knuckles, posts like this are you have been suspected as scum so early on 2 games in a row. You make posts in these riddles that mangle the English language and expect people to trust you. I personally am unsure if you are to be trusted or not, and am not ready to throw a vote away, but the things you say and the cryptic and abrupt way you justify yourself make you highly suspicious in my book.

F.O.S. Knuckles

I'm not ready to vote for you, and I even kind of tried to defend you a few posts back, but you just give off a scum mixer vibe with every new post.

Ebwop

Darn auto correct was supposed to say scummier vibe. I don't even know what a scum mixer is. Sounds kind of dirty. Perhaps Kashmir can elaborate.

[Pepsi]

Mar 21, 2013 12:59:24 GMT -4 Pepsi said:

Mar 21, 2013 12:57:24 GMT -4 Pepsi said:

Knuckles, posts like this are you have been suspected as scum so early on 2 games in a row. You make posts in these riddles that mangle the English language and expect people to trust you. I personally am unsure if you are to be trusted or not, and am not ready to throw a vote away, but the things you say and the cryptic and abrupt way you justify yourself make you highly suspicious in my book.

F.O.S. Knuckles

I'm not ready to vote for you, and I even kind of tried to defend you a few posts back, but you just give off a scum mixer vibe with every new post.

Ebwop

Darn auto correct was supposed to say scummier vibe. I don't even know what a scum mixer is. Sounds kind of dirty. Perhaps Kashmir can elaborate.

Ebwop

Kash not Kashmir. That's what I get for causing someone else of mangling the English language.

[Buckson Gooch]

Call me naive, but I think that it's just Knuckles being Knuckles. I get a kick out of it.

I think it's too early with too little to pounce on. I'm not going to throw out a vote or an F.O.S. on Knux. I'm starting to hate the first day of Mafia. It's just people over analyzing comments with the rare occasion of someone saying something dumb and flipping scum.

[Pepsi]

Mar 21, 2013 13:07:31 GMT -4 Buckson Gooch said:

Call me naive, but I think that it's just Knuckles being Knuckles. I get a kick out of it.

I think it's too early with too little to pounce on. I'm not going to throw out a vote or an F.O.S. on Knux. I'm starting to hate the first day of Mafia. It's just people over analyzing comments with the rare occasion of someone saying something dumb and flipping scum.

It could very well just be Knuckles being Knuckles, but at the same time it's hard to ignore his sketchy way of playing.

[Buckson Gooch]

Mar 21, 2013 13:14:30 GMT -4 Pepsi said:

Mar 21, 2013 13:07:31 GMT -4 Buckson Gooch said:

Call me naive, but I think that it's just Knuckles being Knuckles. I get a kick out of it.

I think it's too early with too little to pounce on. I'm not going to throw out a vote or an F.O.S. on Knux. I'm starting to hate the first day of Mafia. It's just people over analyzing comments with the rare occasion of someone saying something dumb and flipping scum.

It could very well just be Knuckles being Knuckles, but at the same time it's hard to ignore his sketchy way of playing.

Agreed. Maybe not the best decision making, but I'm just as guilty. I say stuff that gets me heat in games all the time. I just have a gut feeling Knux is town, but I'm sure the evidence will play out.

[Jason Cashe]

Scum mixer is someone who stirs your drink with their finger? I dunno I said I started reading the guides, not memorizing them!

[T-Marv]

DEADLINE! I know I'm late but I'm starting it now.

The day ends in NO LYNCH.

Get your Night actions in to me NOW!

[T-Marv]

Night actions are closed.
I will put together the writups now. May take some time