WAR GAMES MAFIA - DAY FIVE

[Blade]

My initial reaction is to lay a vote down on AC Slater..

However, I am not 100% sold. I missed most of the day and also the night phase, so from my role I have nothing useful to add. Yet.

The fact that mafia 1&2 GF's were taken out is a good thing. Speede not so much

[Buckson Gooch]

Mod Note:

[Lord Raab]

I don't have a night role at all so I'm unable to give out info throughout this whole game.

[Buckson Gooch]

Vote Count

3 Votes for Smith (Jennings, Sally, KJE)
1 Vote for Jennings (Jules)

It takes 8 to lynch.

[Jace]

Smith is a role blocker and got recruited, I'm not 100% on rules but if we don't lynch him, there is another non town role blocker we can't have that.

vote: Smith

[Level-Two]

Okay guys, please refrain from voting for AC Smith until I post...

I got something good for yous.

[Level-Two]

I don't want to lynch AC Smith.

Yes, he's Mafia but I am not worried about him right now. We need to rid of one of these fucking recruiters. Also, I have faith that there is a still a DE-recruiter in the game. Yes, those would practically bring down a mafia team but considering there seems to be a hundred different factions that recruit something like that would actually balance this game.

In a game like this clearing isn't worth shit so I'll refrain from that but as of today and the next we need to be looking at.

Blade
Fury
Jace
Jules
KJE
OSHIMA
Pepsi
Rabb *Highly suspect for claiming townie*

Every Anti Town member is on this list minus AC Smith. Some of them are townies obviously, but as of now this is your line up list.

Out of this list the best candidates for Ted Debiase is Jules and maybe Jace superficially. Between the two, given the information provided to us by JamesV - Jules is most likely Ted Debiase. This isn't a sure fire lynch, it isn't even the more solid one for today but trust me... THIS IS STRATEGICALLY THE BEST ONE.

I know the case against Jules isn't iron clad but I think about these things:

- JamesV got roleblocked. Piror to this he was already targeted by not one but TWO confirmed scum members. Townies, I'm asking you... if you were a role blocker, would that be your target after all that? It's almost as bad as role blocked me or Sally after everything. Almost.

- Phantom targeting The King. Conveniently, scum has horrible luck in these games. They always end up targeting dead player with their town roles; whom just so happen to be dead and can't confirm, deny or even defend themselves.

- JamesV is posting GIFS. It's a little odd to me that a townie role blocker would hit their targets with this stipulation. Seems scummy too me. Something to think about.

We need to follow this lead with a lynch.

Vote: Jules

Remember that I do also know things I cannot share at this time.

Furthermore, even if my hutch here is incorrect - I need to be watched. Please. Do this and AC Smith will not be a problem, MAFIA role blocker or not.

So essentially what I am saying is... lynch Jules who's likely Ted and no matter the result of his flip AC Smith will be taken care of.

Alas, I know someone received a 1x doctor protect last night. You know who you are and you need to use it on JamesV or preferably Sally Talfourd. Failure to do so and you'll win the Branden Harvey award. Night three is very important.

[Level-Two]

Also, EWOP

Aug 19, 2013 14:56:35 GMT -4 Jace said:

Smith is a role blocker and got recruited, I'm not 100% on rules but if we don't lynch him, there is another non town role blocker we can't have that.

vote: Smith

Ric Flair blocked recruits, he wasn't a role blocker. Are you saying you know what his role has changed to?

[Gordon Fury]

Aug 19, 2013 15:32:13 GMT -4 Level-Two said:

I don't want to lynch AC Smith.

Yes, he's Mafia but I am not worried about him right now. We need to rid of one of these fucking recruiters. Also, I have faith that there is a still a DE-recruiter in the game. Yes, those would practically bring down a mafia team but considering there seems to be a hundred different factions that recruit something like that would actually balance this game.

In a game like this clearing isn't worth shit so I'll refrain from that but as of today and the next we need to be looking at.

Blade
Fury
Jace
Jules
KJE
OSHIMA
Pepsi
Rabb *Highly suspect for claiming townie*

Every Anti Town member is on this list minus AC Smith. Some of them are townies obviously, but as of now this is your line up list.

Out of this list the best candidates for Ted Debiase is Jules and maybe Jace superficially. Between the two, given the information provided to us by JamesV - Jules is most likely Ted Debiase. This isn't a sure fire lynch, it isn't even the more solid one for today but trust me... THIS IS STRATEGICALLY THE BEST ONE.

I know the case against Jules isn't iron clad but I think about these things:

- JamesV got roleblocked. Piror to this he was already targeted by not one but TWO confirmed scum members. Townies, I'm asking you... if you were a role blocker, would that be your target after all that? It's almost as bad as role blocked me or Sally after everything. Almost.

- Phantom targeting The King. Conveniently, scum has horrible luck in these games. They always end up targeting dead player with their town roles; whom just so happen to be dead and can't confirm, deny or even defend themselves.

- JamesV is posting GIFS. It's a little odd to me that a townie role blocker would hit their targets with this stipulation. Seems scummy too me. Something to think about.

We need to follow this lead with a lynch.

Vote: Jules

Remember that I do also know things I cannot share at this time.

Furthermore, even if my hutch here is incorrect - I need to be watched. Please. Do this and AC Smith will not be a problem, MAFIA role blocker or not.

So essentially what I am saying is... lynch Jules who's likely Ted and no matter the result of his flip AC Smith will be taken care of.

Alas, I know someone received a 1x doctor protect last night. You know who you are and you need to use it on JamesV or preferably Sally Talfourd. Failure to do so and you'll win the Branden Harvey award. Night three is very important.

The explanation is sound, and I do agree that the recruiters need to die, and die fast. At this stage by backing you and Jennings we learn something either way. If Jules comes up green roleblocker, we know who our targets are for pushing for him over a confirmed scum member. If he comes up Ted, well then that's one more recruiter down, and we continue on our way.

Vote: Jules

[Pepsi]

I am inclined to agree with Level One that Smith is not the dangerous one here. The recruiters are by far the greater threat. I am not 100% convinced Jules is the best lynch. I will need to o back and read over some before throwing a toe on him.

[Level-Two]

So, who will be the target if Jules flips green, Fury?

Me?

Trust me when I say I am not worried about that at all; if it wasn't obvious I was town before, it will be further emphasized at night.

HOWEVER, big red flag to you for throwing out that little niblet as to who the next targets are if I'm wrong. Especially since I spent the majority of that post claiming that this lynch has room for error.

If you vote for Jules and he flips town you are just as suspect if not MORE than I could ever be. In fact, I'll be coming after you if he does just for trying to put shade on us like that.

[A.C. Smith]

Didn't think I'd still be alive.

Anyway, Jules is a solid bet to be Dibiase, so with that in mind (plus my night action from last night)...

VOTE: Jules

[Gordon Fury]

Aug 19, 2013 17:05:20 GMT -4 Level-Two said:

So, who will be the target if Jules flips green, Fury?

Me?

Trust me when I say I am not worried about that at all; if it wasn't obvious I was town before, it will be further emphasized at night.

HOWEVER, big red flag to you for throwing out that little niblet as to who the next targets are if I'm wrong. Especially since I spent the majority of that post claiming that this lynch has room for error.

If you vote for Jules and he flips town you are just as suspect if not MORE than I could ever be. In fact, I'll be coming after you if he does just for trying to put shade on us like that.

Come after me if you want L-1, I have nothing to hide. I could try and backpedal, but honestly I had an opinion based on the current circumstances, and I voiced it. If you think that makes me scum, well no amount of arguing from me will change your mind.

[Level-Two]

Unvote: Jules

Two reasons, first of all Gordon Fury. Who in my mind is one of the suspects we'll need to be looking into ASAP right now.

Second, I neglected to take into account that Ric Flair (AC Smith) still used his role to protect JamesV from recruitment. This action is what likely prevented the recruitment of JamesV.

While Ted Debiase did in fact target JamesV, I believe he did so as a recruitment rather than an attempt to role block like Jules did. Thus, making Jules somebody not Ted.

I know targetting JamesV for a role block is sketchy in of itself but I am going to give Jules a hall pass - if he's lying, it's now up to what would be the REAL town role blocker to stake that counter claim. Until that happens, I don't see any reason to continue down this path.

After what occurred last game, I am doing my best to take emotions and my stubbornness out of my play style. I'm not going to have his blood on my hands. Nope.

Vote: AC Smith

I still need a watcher on me tonight, though. Jules if your town, stay away from JamesV. To the person who has the 1x doctor protect, protect Sally.

If there is a town role blocker who refuses to out themselves that is NOT Jules, role block Jules.

Simple enough.

[Gordon Fury]

Well this escalated quickly. Whoever wants to check me out, feel free to do so. As I said before, nothing to hide.

And since apparently the confirmed scum is put back under the guillotine, I'm obviously gonna help drop it.

Unvote

Vote: AC Smith

[Blade]

Seems like you just wanted to hammer?

[Jules]

I have bothered to read the entire thread because I got the gist of from the last page and a half. As for the argument I have seen against me, well it's about as water tight as an old sponge.

This is a game of multiple factions, but because by sheer coincidence James is targeted by two scummers that makes him town? Give me a break.

Right now it wouldn't surprise if one or both of Level One and James are scum; they may even be in cahoots. I am not saying that because they are leading a lynch on me, but because of the way they are doing it. The town are following them like the pied piper because of what their say so? Good luck drowning.

I roleblocked James last night and we know something was stopped last night. He is retort is sarcasm and insults and claiming I would say I was a town roleblocker because I knew he would out he was roleblocked. If you want buy that good luck to you all.

Unless the watcher saw me and started probing why would I need to out that I roleblocked James in one of the first posts. I could have laid low if I was scum, rather than taking such a risky gamble? I outed that I roleblocked James, he didn't say he was roleblocked then I claimed. That ought to be enough to verify who I say I am, and given that I did it willingly should be a sign of obvious town play.

As for my choice. Simply I wanted to test KJE's theory. I could have targeted her for her outburst at a supposedly 'obvious' town player, but there is nothing obvious about James' innocence so I took a shot.

These are the facts: last night I successfully roleblocked James. We know Ted DiBiase was unable to do what he wanted to do last night. I will flip town, and if my lynch is what is required to vindicate me then so be it but then you have two targets, excluding the obvious Smith.

Right I believe James is Ted DiBiase. But I wouldn't rule out him being the recruiter, nor Level-One and Smith was recruited as a distracting sacrificial lamb.

I am sure James will retort in his usual aggressive way about how I am full of shit, well if you are town don't forget to send me your address so I can get that humble pie delivered.

[Level-Two]

Aug 19, 2013 18:04:13 GMT -4 Jules said:

I have not bothered to read the entire thread because I got the gist of from the last page and a half. As for the argument I have seen against me, well it's about as water tight as an old sponge.

Well maybe you should have before you made yourself look like a jackass.

[Buckson Gooch]

Current Votes:

6 Votes for Smith (Jennings, Sally, KJE, Jace, L1, Fury)
1 Vote for Jennings (Jules)
1 Vote for Jules (Smith)

It takes 8 to lynch.

I can't believe no one commented on the AC Slater stuff. Sad day.

[Johnny Rebel]

Aug 19, 2013 18:04:13 GMT -4 Jules said:

I have bothered to read the entire thread because I got the gist of from the last page and a half. As for the argument I have seen against me, well it's about as water tight as an old sponge.

This is a game of multiple factions, but because by sheer coincidence James is targeted by two scummers that makes him town? Give me a break.

Right now it wouldn't surprise if one or both of Level One and James are scum; they may even be in cahoots. I am not saying that because they are leading a lynch on me, but because of the way they are doing it. The town are following them like the pied piper because of what their say so? Good luck drowning.

I roleblocked James last night and we know something was stopped last night. He is retort is sarcasm and insults and claiming I would say I was a town roleblocker because I knew he would out he was roleblocked. If you want buy that good luck to you all.

Unless the watcher saw me and started probing why would I need to out that I roleblocked James in one of the first posts. I could have laid low if I was scum, rather than taking such a risky gamble? I outed that I roleblocked James, he didn't say he was roleblocked then I claimed. That ought to be enough to verify who I say I am, and given that I did it willingly should be a sign of obvious town play.

As for my choice. Simply I wanted to test KJE's theory. I could have targeted her for her outburst at a supposedly 'obvious' town player, but there is nothing obvious about James' innocence so I took a shot.

These are the facts: last night I successfully roleblocked James. We know Ted DiBiase was unable to do what he wanted to do last night. I will flip town, and if my lynch is what is required to vindicate me then so be it but then you have two targets, excluding the obvious Smith.

Right I believe James is Ted DiBiase. But I wouldn't rule out him being the recruiter, nor Level-One and Smith was recruited as a distracting sacrificial lamb.

I am sure James will retort in his usual aggressive way about how I am full of shit, well if you are town don't forget to send me your address so I can get that humble pie delivered.

To be fair, Level-One did just lead the town in nailing two scum to the wall. It would be awful hard to go against his word at the moment.

[Level-Two]

I won't even waste my time with Jules. For one, I think he's telling the truth. He's horribly wrong about his suspicions not about just me but JamesV as well.

Fact is, AC Smith used his role to shield JamesV from recruitment. Ted tried to recruit JamesV. The recruitment was stopped. Jules targets JamesV for a role block but not for a recruitment.

You both are likely townies. JamesV more so than Jules. But if you two want to go back and forth and measure dicks all game, fine. I'm not getting dragged into it.

Blade
KJE
Fury
Rabb
Jace
Oshima
Pepsi
AC Smith (confirmed)

Your Anti Town players are on this list. It may change overtime with recruits but go for anyone else and your wasting your time.

Just one question, though.

Terry Marvin, did you target anyone last night?

[Lord Raab]

I should've asked this on the last game but what's the difference between a townie and an anti townie?

[Level-Two]

EWOP

I'd also like to add before I step off for a bit that I have a slightly differing opinion on the Shane Mc Mahon recruit. I don't think the player is necessary a noob or wasn't paying attention with their recruit; rather, they knew AC Smith could stop potential recruits so they snatched up him up and out of the game. He probably was meant to be lynched today, as it means nobody else really is.

Of course, the alternative is plausible as well.

[Level-Two]

EWOP, again

Aug 19, 2013 18:35:02 GMT -4 Lord Raab said:

I should've asked this on the last game but what's the difference between a townie and an anti townie?

I'm going to be nice and answer your question. Anti Town = Scum, third party, anyone not with the town.

Now the cynic inside me, tells me you're playing up this oblivious newbie roll way too much. I mean, it's Anti Town. It pretty much explains itself - new player or not.

I find it hard to believe. I also find it hard to believe you're a vanilla townie.

In other words, you have no power and your just a plain character who does nothing but vote. This game has powers up the ass and I don't believe that for a second. You don't get vanilla's in a game with four recruiting factions. This game already seems stacked against the town.

[KJE]

I have said before anyone can look into me. If you need me to say anything in case there is a lie detector or anything fine, tell me exactly what to say to clear me.

[Michael Jennings]

Aug 19, 2013 18:04:13 GMT -4 Jules said:

I have bothered to read the entire thread because I got the gist of from the last page and a half. As for the argument I have seen against me, well it's about as water tight as an old sponge.

This is a game of multiple factions, but because by sheer coincidence James is targeted by two scummers that makes him town? Give me a break.

Right now it wouldn't surprise if one or both of Level One and James are scum; they may even be in cahoots. I am not saying that because they are leading a lynch on me, but because of the way they are doing it. The town are following them like the pied piper because of what their say so? Good luck drowning.

I roleblocked James last night and we know something was stopped last night. He is retort is sarcasm and insults and claiming I would say I was a town roleblocker because I knew he would out he was roleblocked. If you want buy that good luck to you all.

Unless the watcher saw me and started probing why would I need to out that I roleblocked James in one of the first posts. I could have laid low if I was scum, rather than taking such a risky gamble? I outed that I roleblocked James, he didn't say he was roleblocked then I claimed. That ought to be enough to verify who I say I am, and given that I did it willingly should be a sign of obvious town play.

As for my choice. Simply I wanted to test KJE's theory. I could have targeted her for her outburst at a supposedly 'obvious' town player, but there is nothing obvious about James' innocence so I took a shot.

These are the facts: last night I successfully roleblocked James. We know Ted DiBiase was unable to do what he wanted to do last night. I will flip town, and if my lynch is what is required to vindicate me then so be it but then you have two targets, excluding the obvious Smith.

Right I believe James is Ted DiBiase. But I wouldn't rule out him being the recruiter, nor Level-One and Smith was recruited as a distracting sacrificial lamb.

I am sure James will retort in his usual aggressive way about how I am full of shit, well if you are town don't forget to send me your address so I can get that humble pie delivered.

I NEVER said you were town roleblocker. I said you were non-town and roleblocked anyone you couldn't recruit. Plus your comments about L-1 being non-town as well as me basically kills your entire argument when he was one of the people leading the non-town lynches the last day phase as was I and add to the fact that both non-town players who were lynched targeted me and your argument has more holes in it than Swiss Cheese.


Oh, and IF there is a lie detector: I am NOT Ted Dibiase.

[Jace]

I'm on my lunch break from work. I only have a few minutes. I can clear KJE tonight.

KJE are you scum answer the adn I can clear you tomorrow.

[KJE]

Okay, I sure as hell hope you're not blocked so I can finally be clear.

I am not third party, I am not scum, I am town.

[Level-Two]

Jace, you shouldn't have done that.

KJE, answer these.

Are you Anti Town?
Are you a recruiter?
Can you kill at night kill?
Are you AJ Styles?

I am not _______

Will suffice.

[Level-Two]

EWOP

Aug 19, 2013 22:19:52 GMT -4 Jace said:

I'm on my lunch break from work. I only have a few minutes. I can clear KJE tonight.

KJE are you scum answer the adn I can clear you tomorrow.

I also want to know what statement you ran day one and day two as per your role and who you can clear.