The Retirement of Edge

[Tyler Vaughn]

Damn this just sucks, an amazing wrestler like Edge has to retire while John Cena still gets to wrestle. Edge has had an amazing career and deserved much better then this. I'm betting they put Christian in his place at Extreme Rules and give him the title. I'm guessing that was one of his final wishes before leaving was to see Christian given the World Title. As I said Edge has had an amazing career and leaving as the World Champion off of a huge win at WM is a pretty damn good way to go out. Still it just sucks not having the Rated R Superstar around anymore.

[brandenharvey]

There were no tears when he was talking about his 19 year career, 14 of which were with WWE. I call angle.

[Jimmy The Lock]

So what? Not everyone cries when they retire from wrestling. It was 100% legit.

[khaos]

No one ever retires from wrestling. They just step away from the business for a little while before making a comeback.

[Level-Two]

^

Well if what he says is true; I think he's done for good. I don't even watch wrestling anymore I can tell it's NOT a work. Come on people.

[kidnotorious]

Yeah, it's not a work.



Also, Edge was talking about his arms going numb at WM. No way is he wrestling again. I hope he sticks around in some capacity though.

[C.J. Gates]

Definitely sucks because he was one of my favourites, and I don't think it's a work either. There may not have been tears, but I also don't think it's a work. It's basically Edge and WWE agreeing that he should retire while he can still walk.

[President Jeff]

I think its a work. Edge has said before (recently at a WWE house show in Toronto) that he doesn't know how many more matches he has left in him and that he'd like to retire in Toronto. I guess that came sooner for him than expected

And I don't think WWE is dumb enough to run a Retirement angle with a guy who's their current World Heavyweight Champion

[Jesse Nuñez™]

It's not a work. Obviously on Smackdown before this RAW he was still running a storyline with Alberto. Then out of the blue they run this retirement speech outta the blue? Not uh! Its real he got the tests the doctors told him to quit while he can still walk.

[Level-Two]

And I don't think WWE is dumb enough to run a Retirement angle with a guy who's their current World Heavyweight Champion

That's the best part in all this.

WWE fans are calling this a work; despite it not making any sense for storylines AT ALL, in general. This really shows what sloppy type of writing makes it's way on the program and what the fans expect.

[C.J. Gates]

You'd think they'd be smart enough to realize that if it was a work, then a) something would have been done on Smackdown last week to lead into it and b) he wouldn't have announced in on Raw.

Some fans...lol

[Streets Wilson]

first of all... its not a work. Thats quite obvious. He was hugging faces and heels on raw and obviously with his neck injury there's reason he shouldn't be wrestling anymore. I just want to say here that Edge has always been one of the best, and unlike a lot of people that get put in, will actually deserve to be in the hall of fame when they put him in. This basically signifies to me what has been pretty apparent for a while now anyway: which is that what I was watching when I was a kid is basically now 100% gone. I can still remember the feeling of wrestlemania 16 i think it was over in my freinds basement, me and him and a couple other buddies each contributed 12 dollars or some shit to order it together. And I can pretty vividly remember the fucking raw excitement that was in that basement when the now LEGENDARY TLC match was going on. People were fucking screaming at the top of their lungs at that screen. I remember at some point in the middle of the match Edge had been knocked out outside of the ring in some spectacular manner earlier in the match and hadn't been seen since. I yelled out "WHERE THE HELL IS EDGE" as I was rooting for Edge and Christian in that match, and as if answering me directly J.R said immediately "Edge is still on the outside". I'm rambling now but my point is that the era in which (at least for me) I would literally get excited and have my heart beating faster, me and my freinds screaming at each other with a passion as our respective picks for the match battled back and forth: that era is over. Edge was a huge part of that and I am very sad to see him have to go. He gave me, he gave us all I'm sure: something very special when he performed and i especially remember those times in the TLC matches when those young up and coming mid-carders literally went out there and stole the show in a most spectacular way. Thank you very much Edge and YOU WILL BE MISSED. I hope he decides to make movies or some shit now so I can continue to support him.

[broadway]

The past, present, and future of all sports (or forms of entertainment) are the same. The people who are now older complain about how much better it was when they were younger. Each have an argument about purity or integrity or some code of ethics they believe they perceived when watching it at a younger age. The reality is, all things change, all generations come to love the way the game is CURRENTLY being played, and will eventually bitch about what it evolves into when they are older.

I don't think there is a single successful wrestler or athlete that hasn't in some way busted their ass to get where they are. Maybe some more than others, but that's irrelevant.

Broadway

[brandenharvey]

Apr 14, 2011 15:52:50 GMT -4 broadway said:

all generations come to love the way the game is CURRENTLY being played.

While the Attitude Era is my favorite era, I enjoy watching all eras of wrestling. I enjoy watching wrestling from the 60's just as much as I like watching wrestling from the 00's. It's just a different style.

[Level-Two]

Apr 14, 2011 15:52:50 GMT -4 broadway said:

The past, present, and future of all sports (or forms of entertainment) are the same. The people who are now older complain about how much better it was when they were younger. Each have an argument about purity or integrity or some code of ethics they believe they perceived when watching it at a younger age. The reality is, all things change, all generations come to love the way the game is CURRENTLY being played, and will eventually bitch about what it evolves into when they are older.

I don't think there is a single successful wrestler or athlete that hasn't in some way busted their ass to get where they are. Maybe some more than others, but that's irrelevant.

Broadway

This is half true. The current WWE IS my generation and I find it to be absolute shit. Where as my brother who's older thinks the WWE who acts like it has never been better; but then again, he isn't the sharpest tool in the shed...

In something like video games, I'm the complete opposite. Space invaders and PacMan fucking sucks. Fuck off with that shit.

Lastly, as long as you support the product by tuning in every week... you really have no room to outright complain. Maybe you can spend your time offering critisms that nobody listens to; but that's as productive as it gets.

[Level-Two]

Apr 14, 2011 16:01:26 GMT -4 @brandenharvey said:

Apr 14, 2011 15:52:50 GMT -4 broadway said:

all generations come to love the way the game is CURRENTLY being played.

While the Attitude Era is my favorite era, I enjoy watching all eras of wrestling. I enjoy watching wrestling from the 60's just as much as I like watching wrestling from the 00's. It's just a different style.

There is NO wrestling today. Wrestling is something they do in between skits and segments for the sole purpose of progressing storylines and more skits--not the other way around. It isn't even the same thing anymore.

[Ryan Ruckus]

So much so that the 'E' has officially REMOVED the word 'wrestling' from all documents and on air references to their name. They are now officially WWE Inc.

And in response to the Edge stuff, what's to say that hasn't already been said. One of the all-time greats, the single most title-winning superstar in WWE history, and one of my perosnal top 5.


here's to hoping he'll be revealed as the Anonymus GM.

[Level-Two]

Apr 14, 2011 19:02:28 GMT -4 Ryan Ruckus said:

So much so that the 'E' has officially REMOVED the word 'wrestling' from all documents and on air references to their name. They are now officially WWE Inc.

And in response to the Edge stuff, what's to say that hasn't already been said. One of the all-time greats, the single most title-winning superstar in WWE history, and one of my perosnal top 5.

here's to hoping he'll be revealed as the Anonymus GM.

I heard about that. What is the WWE called now? World Wide Entertainment?

[Streets Wilson]

Apr 14, 2011 15:52:50 GMT -4 broadway said:

The past, present, and future of all sports (or forms of entertainment) are the same. The people who are now older complain about how much better it was when they were younger. Each have an argument about purity or integrity or some code of ethics they believe they perceived when watching it at a younger age. The reality is, all things change, all generations come to love the way the game is CURRENTLY being played, and will eventually bitch about what it evolves into when they are older.

I don't think there is a single successful wrestler or athlete that hasn't in some way busted their ass to get where they are. Maybe some more than others, but that's irrelevant.

Broadway

uh... no. Maybe people just like something for actual reasons... I happen to like programming aimed at adults, which is why I don't like or watch the WWE now (not to mention there's no wrestling on it anymore)

I have younger siblings who watch it so I caught Edge retiring

its really not a philosophical discussion on "era"s. its what an individual finds to be entertaining...

[brandenharvey]

Apr 14, 2011 19:08:40 GMT -4 Level-Two said:

Apr 14, 2011 19:02:28 GMT -4 Ryan Ruckus said:

So much so that the 'E' has officially REMOVED the word 'wrestling' from all documents and on air references to their name. They are now officially WWE Inc.

And in response to the Edge stuff, what's to say that hasn't already been said. One of the all-time greats, the single most title-winning superstar in WWE history, and one of my perosnal top 5.

here's to hoping he'll be revealed as the Anonymus GM.

I heard about that. What is the WWE called now? World Wide Entertainment?

Actually it now stands for nothing. WWE isn't an acronym for anything now. It's simply the name of the company.

[Streets Wilson]

Apr 14, 2011 19:17:09 GMT -4 @brandenharvey said:

Apr 14, 2011 19:08:40 GMT -4 Level-Two said:

I heard about that. What is the WWE called now? World Wide Entertainment?

Actually it now stands for nothing. WWE isn't an acronym for anything now. It's simply the name of the company.

theres this article on prowrestling.com about terms broadcasters or announcers aren't allowed to use when describing the company or the "wrestlers". Its amazing.

[broadway]

I had a long ass response in my head to negate certain statements, but I fucking deleted it after I realized no one gives a shit to begin with. Damn, if only I could've done that instead of deleting the Monday Night Brawl boards, then maybe I could be APW president today instead of Jeff.

Broadway

[Level-Two]

Apr 14, 2011 21:55:42 GMT -4 broadway said:

I had a long ass response in my head to negate certain statements, but I fucking deleted it after I realized no one gives a shit to begin with. Damn, if only I could've done that instead of deleting the Monday Night Brawl boards, then maybe I could be APW president today instead of Jeff.

Broadway

LMFAO!

Why did you delete the boards? I know the fed is dead but, LOL.

[kidnotorious]

I don't get people who say the WWE "sucks." It doesn't. Not even close. Is it the best it's ever been? No. Is it as good as it can be? Absolutely not. But "sucks" is just outright lies. This may not be true, but I tend to think that people who claim this don't even WATCH the shows. OR they look at the stupid hornswoggle bullshit and don't give anything else a chance.

I've been a fan of wrestling and the E since I was, I dunno, 5-6 years old. My first wrestlemania I watched on PPV was Warrior/Hogan. I attended my first live event when I was 8. I've been a fan through the good and the bad, and I can say with all certainty that the current generation in no way "sucks."

The Miz
CM Punk
Christian
Edge (Well, until this past monday )
John Morrison
Evan Bourne
Randy Orton
Cody Rhodes
Alberto Del Rio (Plus Ricardo Rodriguez)
Dolph Ziggler and Vickie Guererro
Daniel Bryan
Sheamus
Wade Barrett
Justin Gabriel
Kofi Kingston
William Regal (when they let him)
Zack fuckin Ryder,
Mason Ryan
Laycool
The Undertaker's yearly wrestlemania match
Even John Cena, who as a wrestler is phenominal. His character and everything about the way he's booked suck ass, but you can't deny what he does in big match.
The influx of second/third generation stars
Mistico/Sin Cara
AWESOME FUCKING KONG IS DEBUTING SOON!

All of these things are awesome, and if you can't find ONE thing out of all that that you like, then you aren't paying enough attention. Here's the thing, if the asinine retard humor segments annoy you? Don't watch them. But there are PLENTY of good things about the WWE, you just have to actually try.

[broadway]

Apr 15, 2011 13:00:23 GMT -4 Level-Two said:

Apr 14, 2011 21:55:42 GMT -4 broadway said:

I had a long ass response in my head to negate certain statements, but I fucking deleted it after I realized no one gives a shit to begin with. Damn, if only I could've done that instead of deleting the Monday Night Brawl boards, then maybe I could be APW president today instead of Jeff.

Broadway

LMFAO!

Why did you delete the boards? I know the fed is dead but, LOL.

I was pissed about several things, some that might even cause conflict here if there are certain ex EWC wrestlers that pop in and out, and I don't want to bring that drama to APW. If you really want to know, or anyone wants to know for that matter, shoot me a PM and ill explain.

Broadway

[Level-Two]

The Miz- Probably the most entertaining guy on the mic when it comes to new generation talent. Unfortunately, he's about average inside the ring. The type of talent you can carry to a great match with a more experienced wrestler.

CM Punk
- No complaints here. Haven't watched him as of late; but he's well rounded and a top talent.

Christian
- Prefered him in TNA; and he's not ''new'' but again, top talent.

Edge
-Retired

John Morrison
- Great in ring. Haven't seen him recently, so I can't say much more.

Evan Bourne
- Great in the ring. Boring personality, doesn't really fit in with the current WWE model. I wouldn't be suprised if this guy is still jobbing five years from now.

Randy Orton

- Star. Hall of famer. No aruging that. Wouldn't consider him new though.

Cody Rhodes
- Boring as dirt. Decent in-ring.

Alberto Del Rio (Plus Ricardo Rodriguez)
- ZZZZZZ. Wake me up. This guy is the guy the decide to put over? LOL @ his reaction at WM of his car being wrecked. Horrible.

Dolph Ziggler and Vickie Guererro
- LMAO. This is dreadful.

Daniel Bryan- A great wrestler in a non-wrestling company. Goddamn it!

Sheamus- Everything I have seen from this guy, has been sub-par. Maybe he's a ''star'' these days, but that's just because the product has gotten progressively worse.

Wade Barrett
-See Sheamus.

Justin Gabriel
=Meh.
Kofi Kingston
- Never impressed with anything other then his wrestling.
William Regal (when they let him)
- Meh
Zack fuckin Ryder,
- Youtube? Other than that, I can't say much.
Mason Ryan
- Don't know
Laycool
- LOL
The Undertaker's yearly wrestlemania match

- Great matches; but after this Wrestlemania... what is it going to take to be Taker? 6 Pedigrees and 3 Tombstones? It's kinda ridicolous.

Even John Cena, who as a wrestler is phenominal. His character and everything about the way he's booked suck ass, but you can't deny what he does in big match.

- I agree.

The influx of second/third generation stars
Mistico/Sin Cara

- You only named one. Though, Sin Cara is awesome. Watched several of his matches.

AWESOME FUCKING KONG IS DEBUTING SOON!
- Should be good; probably wont.

In other words...

Yes, there are some redeeming qualities of the WWE with the talent they usually fail to use, properly. There's a lot of guys that can work, you just don't see it often enough.

This product would be laughed at 10-15 years ago. Too many people think because the WWE throws a ''belt'' on someone, it makes them a ''star'' or top talent--when in comparison to most before them, they fall short.

[C.J. Gates]

Apr 15, 2011 20:07:58 GMT -4 Level-Two said:

Cody Rhodes
- Boring as dirt. Decent in-ring.

His new gimmick isn't too bad for him - he's pulling it off well in my books. Naturally it could be loads better, but he's finding some decent success with it, and his in-ring is great.

But I agree the product know would be laughed at 10 or so years ago. What we had back then we probably won't have again. Closest will be whatever The Rock chooses to do, and even that will probably be sub par given PG standards.

[Level-Two]

Apr 15, 2011 20:42:28 GMT -4 C.J. Gates said:

Apr 15, 2011 20:07:58 GMT -4 Level-Two said:

Cody Rhodes
- Boring as dirt. Decent in-ring.

His new gimmick isn't too bad for him - he's pulling it off well in my books. Naturally it could be loads better, but he's finding some decent success with it, and his in-ring is great.

But I agree the product know would be laughed at 10 or so years ago. What we had back then we probably won't have again. Closest will be whatever The Rock chooses to do, and even that will probably be sub par given PG standards.

Well, Cody Rhodes back when I watched was boring. I know about his mask gimmick because of Wrestlemania, but I realized he sold it miserably, until after the match was over, LOL.

I watched Wrestlemania and knew where this product was heading. If you can't put on a quality show in the BIGGEST showcase of the company's year--then I can't expect anything different in the months ahead bar major changes.

Plus, when I look at how many people thought that pay-per-view with less then two hours of wrestling on a four hour show was ''good''; I realized what the internet smarks have learnt to except.

No skin off my back, though. I don't waste my time watching it. I give Wrestlemania a chance every year though, especially if I don't have to pay for it.

EDIT- As for anyone thinking that these ''new'' guys are able to carry and sell pay-per-views... it's funny how Vince had to make a non-current wrestler and legend in ''The Rock'' to help sell that shit of a pay-per-view.

Notice how he got put over the world champ AND contender?

Vince knows what's up.

[Streets Wilson]

Apr 15, 2011 21:10:04 GMT -4 Level-Two said:

Apr 15, 2011 20:42:28 GMT -4 C.J. Gates said:

His new gimmick isn't too bad for him - he's pulling it off well in my books. Naturally it could be loads better, but he's finding some decent success with it, and his in-ring is great.

But I agree the product know would be laughed at 10 or so years ago. What we had back then we probably won't have again. Closest will be whatever The Rock chooses to do, and even that will probably be sub par given PG standards.

Well, Cody Rhodes back when I watched was boring. I know about his mask gimmick because of Wrestlemania, but I realized he sold it miserably, until after the match was over, LOL.

I watched Wrestlemania and knew where this product was heading. If you can't put on a quality show in the BIGGEST showcase of the company's year--then I can't expect anything different in the months ahead bar major changes.

Plus, when I look at how many people thought that pay-per-view with less then two hours of wrestling on a four hour show was ''good''; I realized what the internet smarks have learnt to except.

No skin off my back, though. I don't waste my time watching it. I give Wrestlemania a chance every year though, especially if I don't have to pay for it.

EDIT- As for anyone thinking that these ''new'' guys are able to carry and sell pay-per-views... it's funny how Vince had to make a non-current wrestler and legend in ''The Rock'' to help sell that shit of a pay-per-view.

Notice how he got put over the world champ AND contender?

Vince knows what's up.

Seriously, if they literally need JIM ROSS as an in ring talent to compensate for the fact that nobody gives a shit about any of their current "stars"... point made. WWE sucks, period. Its what I would consider a WWE recession and I find it laughable that people even watch it. I do watch wrestlemania every year purely out of habit and with this new invention called the internet I no longer have to pay for it.

[Streets Wilson]

and one more thing... why the fuck is Cody Rhodes walking around pretending his face was deformed... who THE FUCK is green-lighting this shit. WE CAN SEE HIS FACE. HES WEARING A CLEAR MASK. HE LOOKS FINE AND THE SAME. THERE IS NO DEFORMITY.

thank you.