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Post by Kaji Fireson on Apr 5, 2011 21:39:34 GMT -4
Or...we could just lynch you because you couldn't scum hunt your way out of a paper sack.
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Post by brandenharvey on Apr 5, 2011 23:03:55 GMT -4
How do you know? I've never been given a chance. All I've ever been able to do was try and defend myself. If everybody didn't jump the gun on me all the time, I might be able to do some hunting.
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Post by C.J. Gates on Apr 5, 2011 23:32:28 GMT -4
Just because people vote for you, doesn't mean you have to stop hunting.
Though, from what you said, if we don't lynch you, then you will hunt scum. If you are unable to come up with anything, then we lynch you. That's what you're basically saying, right?
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Post by brandenharvey on Apr 5, 2011 23:41:43 GMT -4
Just because people vote for you, doesn't mean you have to stop hunting. Though, from what you said, if we don't lynch you, then you will hunt scum. If you are unable to come up with anything, then we lynch you. That's what you're basically saying, right? Yes.
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Post by SalTal on Apr 5, 2011 23:50:56 GMT -4
Lynching you even of you are town is probably for the best (aka worth the risk) because you give so much cover to a scum. They just have to post ambiguous posts or all "philosophical" posts to make them seem legit (... Jeff). They don't have to work hard while you're around.
Also, I'd br suspect of non-Branden voters.
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Post by Level-Two on Apr 6, 2011 0:26:52 GMT -4
Sorry, I've been absent guys. I usually like to push the action. Anyways, after reading up on these posts it's really no surprise to see Branden with a handfull of votes against him. I'd agree with Blade's tone; in saying, Branden is a horrible player in general... or is at least letting on as a bad player.
As tempted as I am to slap a vote on him though; I made the same mistake last game. The only difference is, I had a lot more to work with then, then I do now. This time around, I see a few dick wagging posts and a dickish response to Ryan's post; which means if he's scum, he's probably the worse player, alive.
And just like last game, if you are town Branden, you're really mudding the waters for town when it comes to trying to lynch the scummiest person. And like Sally has elluded to above, you might just be worth the vote in the sense, it'll certainly make things easier from here on out.
Still, the problem I have with all this; is that Branden is the easiest target for scum to lead a lynch on, especially if we're going based off last game. Which for a game full of relative newbies, we should all be looking at as a place of reference. I think in that game he was actually the only person to get lynched.
Now that's not to say anyone who has voted for him so far is scum and is trying to launch a bandwaggon but I'm somewhat weary of the fact that if scum hasn't voted yet, they might jump on and vote for the lynch at this point.
As for Sally's point about non-branden's voters; I think it's only fair if that the same suspicion is taken into account if Branden ends up flipping town. The idea of anyone hitching votes on anyone else to ''get a lynch'' over with just doesn't sit well with me.
As for who the better target is, I just don't know yet. If Branden isn't scum, it certainly benifts scum not to say much because he's doing a great job in digging a hole for himself right now.
Anyone have a deadline check to the exact hour?
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Post by brandenharvey on Apr 6, 2011 1:06:29 GMT -4
I have an idea. Since this game probably has a cop, how about the cop check me out tonight and see if I'm guilty? Reveal your results on the next day phase.
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Post by SalTal on Apr 6, 2011 1:32:21 GMT -4
As for Sally's point about non-branden's voters; I think it's only fair if that the same suspicion is taken into account if Branden ends up flipping town. The idea of anyone hitching votes on anyone else to ''get a lynch'' over with just doesn't sit well with me. Though you probably didn't intend it, that seems like a play enough for me. Start scrutinising the people who were happy to lynch Branden. And then we get rid him anyway! Win win win!
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Post by brandenharvey on Apr 6, 2011 1:34:12 GMT -4
Why does Sally want to lynch me so bad?
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Post by SalTal on Apr 6, 2011 1:38:37 GMT -4
Maybe I'm a bit too eager (as it's my first time), and maybe I'm over-thinking how simpler it might be if we lynch you from the game, but I think everyone stands a chance at winning this thing if we lynch you.
I weigh you up, and you're worth the gamble, IMO.
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Post by brandenharvey on Apr 6, 2011 1:40:58 GMT -4
Lynching you even of you are town is probably for the best Even if I'm town? Who wants to lynch town? Scum. Unvote
Vote: Sally
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Post by SalTal on Apr 6, 2011 1:45:08 GMT -4
Lynching you even of you are town is probably for the best (aka worth the risk) I said this well before you came to the "conclusion" that I'm scum. I stand by my point that lynching you - even if you are a town - is worth the risk. In saying that, I would hardly think a scum would come out and say "Let's lynch Branden" and expect a re-bluff (I guess you could call it that) to fly. If I sound like scum, well then I sound like scum. But I'm looking out for all the townies and if that means lynching you to save more people then so be it. But I still think you're scum.
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Post by Level-Two on Apr 6, 2011 1:48:00 GMT -4
Oh yeah, and it isn't a win win for you, when you recommend we all be suspicious of anyone who doesn't jump on the lynch branden bandwaggon, that'll likely start up in any game he's in; mind you--all the while at the same time, we shouldn't look at anyone who had a hand in lynching a townie, assuming he turns out to be one?
Are you aware that it's in scums best intrest to lynch townies, right?
I rather we lose one person at night, then rush to a decision on day one, and lose two by next day phase. The longer this game goes on, the more we have to work with because the more people have to talk. So far, there's plenty of people that haven't done very much, hell, including myself! And as I said, there is no more to work with this time, then there was last time, when it comes to Branden's sloppy, over the top, gameplay.
This mentality of ''join us'' or your '''against us'' you've put forth, isn't going to work on me, whether you feel it's in your best intrest to lynch branden or not.
Also...
That would mean someone has to roleclaim. Which get's you modkilled. How about you try to at least prove your town by at least trying not act like a douchbag for once? There's a thought!
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Post by T-Marv on Apr 6, 2011 8:41:37 GMT -4
Jesse - 1 (President Jeff) President Jeff - 1 (Jesse) Sally - 1 (Harvey) Harvey - 4 (Blade, Kaji, Sally, Ryan Ruckus)
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Post by ajking on Apr 6, 2011 8:45:09 GMT -4
Sorry guys for the late start had some irl things going on that occupied my life lately. I'm here now and eager to start. After reading up on everything kind of want to lynch branden wither he scum or not cause if he is a townie he is by far the worse townie ever. He gives off such an impression of being scum as if he thinks that how to win lmao.
As for voting I'm not going to quite cast a vote just yet lets see how event turn out. Is it Sally is it L1 or even R2. NO ONE KNOWS mwuahahaha.
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Post by C.J. Gates on Apr 6, 2011 9:09:51 GMT -4
Now that's not to say anyone who has voted for him so far is scum and is trying to launch a bandwaggon but I'm somewhat weary of the fact that if scum hasn't voted yet, they might jump on and vote for the lynch at this point. On the other hand, if they haven't voted yet, it might be because they don't want to lynch one of their own. I don't think Branden is scum. Or at least, not yet. Much like L1, it's a tempting vote, but not one I can throw out yet. I'm still trying to decide if he's playing poorly because it's what he does, or he's playing poorly to make it seem like it's his usual thing so that he can hide his scuminess.
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Post by Level-Two on Apr 6, 2011 11:49:36 GMT -4
I hear you. My point was that it's very hypocritical for Sally to say, ''we should be suspicious of all non-branden voters'' and in the same breath take issue when I say, ''you should also be suspicious of anyone who voted for Braden if he flips town''; my guess is that maybe Sally knows Branden will end up flipping town and takes issue with the possibility of being under the scope.
Also, I love how you (Sally) makes it look like I benifit from abstaining from a vote; as if I am trying to get everyone elses hands dirty instead. Note, you also did the same to Jeff if we look at your posts closely. It seems like you're setting up a few ''potential'' targets to move onto if branden flips town.
Good scum play?
Good point. The thought if branden actually pulling something off like that though sucessfully makes my brain hurt.
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Post by T-Marv on Apr 6, 2011 12:55:36 GMT -4
Okay guys... I calling deadline in 24hours. It's been close to 72 hours now... so I'm gonna give one more warning.
24 hours till deadline.
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Post by Ryan Ruckus on Apr 6, 2011 13:04:57 GMT -4
All this in-bickering is just going to kill us before we have a chance to do anything. I think the most valid point made so far, is Sally's point about how it's easy for philosopher players (...Jeff) to skate by while the spotlight is on God's Jester, Branden Harvey.
Jeff was my first gut instinct for scum this game. What does everybody else think about his posting and/or guilt/innocence?
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Post by Blade on Apr 6, 2011 14:00:34 GMT -4
It doesnt matter!!!
Branden is at L-1 (not level one) and a no lynch no hurts us ice cream playing fuckers. Look at the people refusing to vote branden??? Branden is scum, they wont vote for him
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Post by brandenharvey on Apr 6, 2011 14:24:51 GMT -4
Why are you so sure I'm scum? You're always sure, Blade, and you haven't been right yet. Give me a chance. I think Sally appears the scummiest right now.
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Post by Level-Two on Apr 6, 2011 14:59:34 GMT -4
lmao. Dude, even YOU know Branden is an easy ass target. This guy is going to be voted out as a lynch in any game he's in as long as he plays it, if we're to go by his play style. I just see dickish posts from him. Nothing, glaringly scummy, and I think some others are seeing it the same way.
However, I understand where you're coming from. We need lynches. I'm just not sold on Branden being the one.
As of now, I see inconsistency with Sally, who'd I love to hear more from.
And Ruckus in regards to sally's post, as good as a point as it is, you'd have to be nearly blind not to see the blatant hypocrisy mirrored in that same post.
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Post by Blade on Apr 6, 2011 15:21:11 GMT -4
Why are you so sure I'm scum? You're always sure, Blade, and you haven't been right yet. Give me a chance. I think Sally appears the scummiest right now. So why doesnt he quote my whole post? Yeah he is scum
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Post by Blade on Apr 6, 2011 15:31:05 GMT -4
unvote:
vote ruckus
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Post by brandenharvey on Apr 6, 2011 15:41:22 GMT -4
Why are you so sure I'm scum? You're always sure, Blade, and you haven't been right yet. Give me a chance. I think Sally appears the scummiest right now. So why doesnt he quote my whole post? Yeah he is scum I didn't quote your whole post because that was the part I was responding to. It makes it easier on the readers.
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Post by C.J. Gates on Apr 6, 2011 15:58:19 GMT -4
Wait, wait, wait. You go off about how Branden is scum and then turn around, unvote and vote for Ruckus? The post RIGHT AFTER you called Branden out AGAIN. Vote: BladeI haven't seen much from Ruckus to sway my vote his way, so unless there's something blatant I missed, you, sir, are digging yourself a hole.
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Post by Blade on Apr 6, 2011 16:13:21 GMT -4
unvote
vote: CJ
Yeah I am gonna be a flip flop.
People had chances to hammer Branden
L-1, CJ, AJ
WHy not?
There is your scum
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Post by ajking on Apr 6, 2011 17:21:00 GMT -4
I think your putting up a good scum showing playing on Branden lack of skill in the game to push two townies on the first night. I just dont see this sudden burst of aggression in the first day when you were so cautious before. Not pointing a finger but raising a point nonetheless. Branden like stated earlier is either the worse player ever or scum. But his tactics between this and last game havent really changed so I haven't pointed a finger yet for pure lack of skill on branden's part maybe I'm wrong but lynching a townie again the first day is gonna hurt us more in the long run so i want to be more certain.
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Post by C.J. Gates on Apr 6, 2011 17:41:32 GMT -4
You want a reason?
Because I don't believe him to be scum. I'm not about to lynch him based on his game play, because the last time that happened when I was involved, he turned up town. I'm not saying he isn't scum either, I'm just going to take the wait and see approach. Like I believe L1 pointed out, why hammer him away and lose a possible town now and then at night, when we could try and formulate something based on people's reactions. So far, Branden has been on par.
You, Blade, haven't. Within a few posts, not only did you try and get us all to hammer Branden, but you then flipped and pointed at Ruckus, who has done nothing that I know of, and then voted me after I pointed out your fault.
Besides, how can you be 100% certain Branden is scum? IF you are town, Blade, then you wouldn't know who the scum is, and this would just be a big reach on your part.
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Post by President Jeff on Apr 6, 2011 17:53:49 GMT -4
The way look at Branden right now. I don't know if he's a town or scum. But Branden is an easy lynch, so why lynch him out now if we're not sure. Now only a few people are pushing for him to be lynch, which could make them scum. Sally comes off a little scummy with her post, but maybe its her first time playing. Blade, seemed scummy with his couple of plays but I'm unsure if he's scum or not. right now, I say no.
Nunez he being inactive, so my vote is for him still until something changes.
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