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Post by brandenharvey on Jul 13, 2011 18:10:32 GMT -4
I voted for him because I was sure he was scum. It wasn't until he said This is political mafia right? So i dont really think a framer role is out of the ordinary, it would explain my screwed up night result, and if i am honest, I have never seen an insane or naive variation of my role So i would go with a framing role. that I decided he might be telling the truth. It was a convincing argument.
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Post by Stephan Hart on Jul 13, 2011 22:04:33 GMT -4
Oh hell no Jeff, you're not going to put any suspicion on me.
I'm being quiet? I think since Rebel was 'Lynched' I was one of the most out spoken. I clearly stated what I believe and after tmarv was eliminated, I think I'm the only one that has voted and have not changed my mine on that vote.
Quite frankly since saying what I had to say and voting nobody has even commented or maybe no even taken into consideration what I said. All this talk about pointing fingers and why you shouldn't vote for one person and unvoting, is all useless t me and that is why I haven't said one word since I voted.
You Jeff is Scum! I figured that out just hours before Rebel was eliminated but due to personal stuff (power was out for a few hours and it will be out on Thursday again urgh) I was unable to vote and comment on what I think before Revel was lynch.
You see Jeff, when fingers was started to be pointed at Rebel, you was one of the first to say you don't think Rebel was Scum. Then out of the blue after two to three votes, you jumped on the bandwagon and voted for Rebel (mind you I said all of this already, but you say I'm just sitting back saying nothing) because you didn't think he defended himself good enough. Now although I was on the bandwagon and I said there is a high chance Rebel is scum i did not voted for him. My last post before Rebel was eliminated I clearly stated that I'm starting to get worried with his lack of defense, it's as if he had nothing to hide or defend himself against. I said maybe he was insane, but my thoughts of him being scum was no more.
You voted for Rebel because he lacked defense and wasn't posting as much, so you thought he was scum. Guess what? He wasn't and I didn't vote for him. Now you're doing the same with me, I said what I had to say and because I'm not getting involve in the confusion, I'm on your list of scum.
my vote have not changed. I would have an ally in tmarv who thought the same about you, but he's eliminated, how convenient.
Vote: President Jeff
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Post by Stephan Hart on Jul 13, 2011 22:06:45 GMT -4
Sorry for missing letters. lol In previous posts etc. I bought this cheap keyboard and now I wish I never did wasted my money on it. lol
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Post by Stephan Hart on Jul 13, 2011 22:25:39 GMT -4
I would also like to say, If you think I'm scum, go ahead and vote for me. However when I am lynched or killed and the truth is revealed. I hope Jeff does not come with some excuse as to why not to vote for him. I'm saying now I'm a freaking townie. With that said I'm not going t defend myself anymore because I don't see anything wrong with my past stance. I may have pointed finger at Jeff from day one, however note I am a rookie (still learning) and didn't even know an un-vote was possible until I saw people doing just that. The second round I suspected Jeff from early, but did no vote for him because I had a feeling. Same feeling I had with Rebel (who I did not vote for either). It's after Jeff vote for Rebel, I thought about it and I figured Jeff needs to be lynched. But un fortunately I could not get online early enough. Round 3: Jeff got my vote. So like I say Jeff, if you think it's me, convince everyone and vote me out. I just want you to promise when the truth comes out, you won't try and defend yourself from getting lynched. In other words, give yourself up. If that's possible in this game.
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Post by brandenharvey on Jul 14, 2011 0:11:30 GMT -4
It's possible. And you bring up a good point. Jeff accussed you after you accussed him. Maybe a scum ploy?
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Post by Level-Two on Jul 14, 2011 1:01:32 GMT -4
Current vote count:
1: President Jeff (Stephan Heart)
With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch.
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jc
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Post by jc on Jul 14, 2011 2:22:12 GMT -4
I have been quiet, but when all you can do is go off of what others say, it's hard to pinpoint who is scum and who isn't when you're unfamiliar with peoples style of play. Regardless of how long I have played this game, I haven't really played with most of you so it is a bit harder to get a read on people. Haven't really seen anyone slip up, but Jeff's constant let's go after the quiet ones is a bit suspicious when he is on most peoples radars. One thing I noticed from watching the last game though, is that Jeff is usually one of the first ones taken out. So the fact that he is still alive after two night phases is worth noting. Also worth noting, is if mafia was going to set up Harvey, the would have probably taken out Jeff instead of TMarv.
I'll let you know if I notice anything else.
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Post by President Jeff on Jul 14, 2011 6:23:59 GMT -4
This is my 4th mafia game. All mafia games I've played, I've played here (tried one in kapow but was shut down after a day) But out of these 4 games, only once was I killed, and it just happened I was killed first. So your arguement worth nothing means nothing.
Also something that Sally said, calling me an experience player, I'm still a noob in this game. If you think 4 games of Mafia makes you an experienced player, then your just as experienced as I am then.
And Stephan Hart, Its you said
Fine, I will
Vote: Stephan Hart
You want to vote me out, but you got nothing on me. ALL of us are suspects. The quiet people here are usually scum and I've been pretty accurate in the 3 pervious games here in guessing at least 1 of the scums.
Stephan, you have a feeling that I'm scum, but you got no proof. Yah, I helpped in the Lynch of Rebel, but I was in a position that I won't be home when the deadline was and we needed a Lynch that day. Even though I didn't think Rebel was scum, Blade did however, convinced me just enough to vote for Rebel. So he came out town, but I wasn't the only one who voted for me.
I still think your Scum, your post of "I'M NOT SCUM YOU ARE" thing isn't good enough for me.
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Post by SalTal on Jul 14, 2011 6:43:10 GMT -4
Vote: Hopper Rose
Reason: After stirring the pot with Jeff and Branden, and then Hart coming into it, and the whole Blade thing at the start of this round ... Hopper hasn't said a single thing this round despite having been here.
I really want some information from him right now.
Hart looks pretty suspect to me - the way he reacted to Jeff. If he's going to clam up now and rest on what he's said so far ... I don't know, that's rather Townie to me. Then again, could it be a rookie Scum move?
JC, you interjection was quite interesting. Enough to get you out of the shadows, but not enough to give us anything.
I am less inclined to suspect Jeff now (sorry, I actually thought you had played this game for a lot more than 4 games), though I'm not completely off you yet.
Branden, I just can't figure out. Which probably helps you because the timer is running low and
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Post by Blade on Jul 14, 2011 7:59:44 GMT -4
Sally, you coudl have hit the nail on the head there.
Hopper as scum? I am thinking that is the best bet we have now, and lynchign him could clear a few things up.
I do kinda wonder about Hart though, he has a massive hard on for Jeff
vote:Hopper
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Post by Stephan Hart on Jul 14, 2011 9:04:25 GMT -4
Like I said I'm not going t defend myself anymore, in this game I'm doing something less than 5% of politicians does and I'm going to keep my word. However I am going to continue my crusade against Jeff, because people need to see between the lines.
Jeff said that he does not think Rebel was the scum. He then changed his mind at the end. Go back a the start of when fingers were being pointed at Rebel and Jeff jumped up and said Rebel was not the scum. He said knowing full well suspicion hoping or knowing suspicion would continue to grow on Rebel and it did. After enough or close to enough votes, Jeff suddenly change his stance and joined the bandwagon. His reason, Rebel is not defending himself good enough. Okay, that was true, I myself said I was worried because Rebel wasn't defending himself good enough.
Guess what the quiet guy that was eliminated, turns out to be townie.
Even after voting for the wrong guy, Jeff is using the same reason to point out others on his list of Scum. And now he says and I quote "The quiet people here are usually scum and I've been pretty accurate in the 3 pervious games here in guessing at least 1 of the scums." Let me point out he was not accurate with Rebel and he's not accurate again. Quite a record you're building for yourself.
The signs are there.
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Post by Stephan Hart on Jul 14, 2011 9:29:54 GMT -4
I als want to note, there is another person I am keeping an I on. His possible vote could say a whole lot (for me personally) on my suspicion on him. However since I'm so into proving Jeff as one of the scum, I rather not focus on multiple people could get complicated, I tried doing so with one of my previous post and I learned from that. President Bush mistake as to fighting to wars at once. One at a time. lol
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Post by SalTal on Jul 14, 2011 9:50:34 GMT -4
At this stage, SH, I'd muchly appreciate you throwing out what information/suspicions you've got. A wrong lynch as the scum are near enough to winning. No lynch gives the scum a free shot at someone.
So if you've got something or someone in mind, it might be an idea to share it? Just my opinion. If you want to ultimately keep it to yourself then do that by all means.
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Hopper Rose™
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It's 4:20, Somebody's Gettin' Smoked!
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Post by Hopper Rose™ on Jul 14, 2011 11:57:54 GMT -4
Yes, I have been quiet too...I've been keeping a watchful eye on the Blade situation...he successfully got you all to lynch a Townie and keep the heat off of himself...He managed to sway you all to lynch Rebel. I wasn't fooled.
Lynch me if you must, but you'll all be making a huge mistake, as you did with Rebel...I'm no scum...I'm trying to stay alive...I've been forced to change the locks and purchase a ADT Theft deterrant system weary that I will be killed in my sleep.
I can't come to any justified conclusions on who is scum right now, but I assure you...I'm here for the people...By the people...Scum I am not
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Post by brandenharvey on Jul 14, 2011 13:14:11 GMT -4
Hopper, once you get votes, you appear from the apparent grave. You're scum.
Vote: Hopper
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Post by Level-Two on Jul 14, 2011 14:12:56 GMT -4
Current vote count:
3: Hopper Rose (Sally, Blade, Branden Harvey) 1: President Jeff (Stephan Hart) 1: Stephan Hart (President Jeff)
Not voting: JC, Hopper Rose
With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch.
Deadline is 5:00 PM EST, TODAY! That's just under three hours.
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Hopper Rose™
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It's 4:20, Somebody's Gettin' Smoked!
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Post by Hopper Rose™ on Jul 14, 2011 14:56:46 GMT -4
Don't be foolish Harvey...I'm not the scum your looking for.
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Post by brandenharvey on Jul 14, 2011 15:09:44 GMT -4
Don't be foolish Harvey...I'm not the scum your looking for. Actually, I believe you are. Blade, JC, Hopper. That's my list of scum right now.
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Post by Stephan Hart on Jul 14, 2011 15:10:28 GMT -4
Sal, the reason why I didn't want to say anything was because I was waiting to see how a certain person voted. If I had said something he probably would have changed his vote.
Now since you want to hear what I have in mind here goes. However I do know this is going to put in a hot seat and a lightning rod on myself, due to all what I've said and focused my entire attacks on Jeff. However I did claim a some point these two people were on my lists of suspects, but I took focus off of them, due to my suspicion on Jeff.
Blade and Harvey.
Some how Blade convinced many of us to vote for Rebel. he did a damn good job at it. At the same time a top critic was Harvey who pointed out if Rebel some how turned up townie, that would make scum of Blade. After the eliminations of Rebel and tmarv (both of them turned out as townies, but more importantly Rebel), Harvey immediately put focus on Blade as scum.
Now Harvey and Blade knew damn well that we would defend Blade because we don't think the scum is that stupid to put himself out there and convince everyone that Rebel is scum knowing full well that he would turn up to be a townie. After a little acting debate and a little Blade self defense and we also defending him, Harvey withdraws his vote on Blade. How shocking? Not really! But the most shocking part is that these two now agree to vote for the same person again, this time that being Hopper.
I know this for a fact. If Hopper is lynched or killed and he turns up townie, they will turn focus on either Jeff, JC or myself. Sal they have nothing really on you, unless they shock us all and take you out again.
At this moment I feel back to square one cause I focused some much on Jeff and now Harvey's vote have just threw me off and I'm worried I could be right with them and wrong with Jeff. With that said I'm going to keep my vote on Jeff for now. Although my suspicion of him have dropped a lot. I think Blade and Harvey is playing us like a bunch of puppets.
I got my eyes on you two.
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Post by brandenharvey on Jul 14, 2011 15:35:56 GMT -4
Because Sally convinced me to vote for Hopper, I'm scum? Interesting theory.
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Hopper Rose™
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Post by Hopper Rose™ on Jul 14, 2011 15:39:49 GMT -4
Because anyone here can get you to vote for a damn pig to be scum...you are easily manipulated Harvey...for that...your possibly the scum we're looking for
Vote: Harvey
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Post by Stephan Hart on Jul 14, 2011 16:16:54 GMT -4
Like what Hopper said. First Blade convinced, now Sally convinced you? How about convincing your own self and instead of putting the reason of suspicion of one on someone else shoulder. I think something is seriously wrong with that.
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Post by President Jeff on Jul 14, 2011 16:17:39 GMT -4
Sorry Hopper
Unvote: Stephan Hart
Vote: Hopper Rose
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Post by Blade on Jul 14, 2011 16:18:27 GMT -4
Like what Hopper said. First Blade convinced, now Sally convinced you? How about convincing your own self and instead of putting the reason of suspicion of one on someone else shoulder. I think something is seriously wrong with that. Damn you Jeff, I was just coming in to unvote. Too late now i guess But I think Hart needs convincing?
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Post by Stephan Hart on Jul 14, 2011 16:19:21 GMT -4
Unvote: El Presidente Jeff
Vote: Harvey
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Post by Level-Two on Jul 14, 2011 16:28:27 GMT -4
And that folks is a, LYNCH!!Hopper Rose opens his eyes and realizes the day he's been fretting for years is that day, today. He finds himself restrained in a large chair with several twisted faces staring at him behind a wall with a window reinforced with glass. An officer slips a bag over his head as a countdown begins... 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1... It was all over. Because on the outside of the prison facility, Sarah Palin governor of Alaska has used her powers to provide clemency to Hopper Rose; who nearly everyone believed to be innoncent. The city cheered and chanted in the streets that justice prevailed. Sarah Palin: We all know that Hopper Rose is an innoncent man and today, he's been set free! And the REAL murders will pay for their crimes. God bless, America! Chants of ''PALIN'' are heard throughout the city, as she holds her fist up in the air. No lynch.We are now in the night. You are allowed to talk. You all have a little over 24 hours to send in your night actions. Making the deadline for night actions 5:00 PM EST, Friday.
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Post by President Jeff on Jul 14, 2011 21:15:41 GMT -4
Thats fuckin Crazy
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Post by SalTal on Jul 14, 2011 23:18:01 GMT -4
Yeah, a very interesting turn of events.
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Post by brandenharvey on Jul 15, 2011 0:17:21 GMT -4
That was odd.
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jc
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Post by jc on Jul 15, 2011 1:47:36 GMT -4
Looks like someone convinced the Governor he wasn't scum.
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