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Post by jc on Jul 27, 2011 1:00:04 GMT -4
Also, Rebel seems to be hinting at JOAT. Could be a safe claim, but at this point the only kill that hasn't been sent in is night 2 because there was an attempt night 1 and they killed someone last night phase.
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Post by brandenharvey on Jul 27, 2011 2:07:11 GMT -4
By the way Harvey, he had 2, not 1. Now he has 3 with my vote, so this should force a roleclaim. I'm not sure I can count to 3.  Vote Count:"Simply Put" Johnny Rebel: 3 (Lester "L1" Only, President Jeff, Kurt Noble) With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. |
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Post by T-Marv on Jul 27, 2011 7:35:42 GMT -4
Wait, TMarv, did you see L-1 visit Hart after he was modkilled? Yes. And JD after he was lynched. I don't get it! Vote: RebelWe've given him enough chances to defend himself. The cases against him are too strong. |
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Post by SalTal on Jul 27, 2011 7:53:32 GMT -4
I'll withdraw the claim that you were after me for a while. I remembered from page 7: Secondly, you all might want to read Sally Talfourds scum tell post. I find it hard to believe the cool headed otherwise scum hunting Sally Talfourd breaks out into a name calling, with a childish posts riddled with insults when a target. Her game play just doesn't seem to be where it has been. Perhaps, it's because she's a scummer too. However, that was it. I'm sorry for misremembering this; I must have tied in what Hart had said and your support of him as having implicitly said it. But you didn't, so I'll take that part of the claim back. In all fairness, I didn't: When I said: (albeit Jeff was the first vote) Perhaps I needed to say more, or you want me to go after Jeff (which I'll get to). Why you'd want that, well if you were Town you'd want people to look at others and if you were Scum you'd want me to go after a Town. Either or. However ... My post wasn't some analysis of the whole game and everyone in it, it was you. Yes, I could cloud things by saying that even though you voted for JD we should go after Jeff. My aim wasn't to critique and draw out information on Jeff, it was to point the finger (rightly or wrongly) at you. That you seem to use Jeff as a pseudo-cover here? I don't know about that ... who's probably another good contender for being scum, far more so then me ... President Jeff revealing that he just came back from camping suspicious ... once challenged, jumped on another inactive ...[with] a pretty decent sized post ... I wasn't even going to do it until JD's suspicious post about killing everyone start with President Jeff ... Is it not even *possible* that President Jeff might have forgot to send in a nightkill? I don't understand how I have logic fail[/qoute] When my explanation is an interpretation of what happened. I mean, if I was saying something was or is and then claimed with hard evidence then sure, I'd have a cognitive logic chain. The problem, though, is that I didn't. I hypothesised on the actions that happened, used inference, and interpretation. I think it's pretty harsh to accuse me of not being able to use logic ... when I never tried to use any sort of true logic but hypothesis. Of course, Rebel coming out and saying that he was certain it was a lynch attempt doesn't help my case. But I'm not sure he misinterpreted what he saw. Or maybe he saw something that didn't happen. This is all bastard roles. I think it's a bit unfair that my theorising is thrown out as being "garbage" and your theorising (that Rebel hasn't actually thought hard enough about the game) is completely accurate. I just want to go in a full circle and make reference to that post that I expanded into being more than it was (in my mind, at least) I find it hard to believe the cool headed otherwise scum hunting Sally Talfourd breaks out into a name calling, with a childish posts riddled with insults when a target. It's true, I did get personal with Hart. I ran out of patience and had a short fuse at the time when it was happening. I think that I've refrained from doing that since then even though I've thought I was a target. But I think that it's only fair that, if I'm held to the standards and actions of things that aren't in this game, you should: LOL, Sally. Here's a disclaimer from here on out; Mafia L1 isn't normal, L1. I'd target my own mother in this game if I thought she was scum. Now this came after this interchange between us: I felt somewhat sorry after targeting you so hard Sally, lol. Being scum was fun plotting wise but I rather be a townie and feel no guilt in calling people out.... Hahaha! I was convinced that you hated me, L1! You make a good scum. It was only speaking to you in chat the other week that I thought "Hmmm, maybe Mafia was just a game ..." You were scum, I started pushing the ball on you, you went hard after me with all sorts of attacks. Things similar to: Huge scum tell with Sally Talfourd absolutely twisting the FUCK out of everything ... I'm suspicious of anyone who refuses to vote his way ... your garbage ... I love how you skip past ... Logic fail ... you've desperately tried to claim? ... And now he says he clears you, LOL ... No. Thanks for entertaining the idea to cover your scum buddies ass though. This attempt to literally speak for him, speaks volumes to me ... Jesus Christ. The stretch on this unbelievable. I swear to god, if Sally leads this lynch with this nonsense I might just retire from APW mafia for good ... Lastly, your 100% trying to defend Johnny Rebel simply by targeting me ... allowing you to shift your target to me ... Ms. Wait-until-everyone-votes-knowing-full-well-they-might-not-be-scum-then-point-fingers-after And then, later on: a blatant attempt to twist and take out of context what I have done in this game and anyone following this game properly knows that And then, again: stop falling for Sally's bullshit ... she's already setting her reasoning up for why she isn't going be killed at night Now I'm not saying you're entitled to a vocal and solid defense, but that you suspect me for being scum because I have played cool, calm, and collected in previous games? I'm guessing you have no problem with me suspecting you because you played hard-hitting, personal-attacking, and quasi-insulting in a previous game when you were scum? At the end of the day, he's confirmed that I'm Town. Now, if he is Scum, he could easily have guessed it because I'm still alive after that first round. If he was Scum, he'd have gone for my kill (which wouldn't surprise me, really) and then come back with me still alive after night. But because he's said that I'm Town (and is really the only person right now who's backing me as Town right now openly) I'm prepared to take a gamble on him now I guess? Now, to address what Noble has said: But she's also claiming a voting-based role that might not allow her to vote until right before the lynch (that's my guess with her saying earlier she wouldn't start the lynch on Rebel, but would participate) And: Can she possibly have both? If so, does that mean certain people in this game might have two roles? Listen to the man! Now, even though Rebel is one vote from lynching, I'm not sold on him yet. I can actually do something now, but I know that he can role claim with this many votes on. I want to see him role claim. If someone/I can make something scummy of that, then I'll get on him just because of the ticking clock. And everyone can leave that last vote for me - I'll happily take it and wear it. But at least give the guy one chance for the last defense. I think that whatever Rebel turns up will clarify a lot of things for me - Town or Scum. If he does turn up Scum, then I imagine I'm the #1 on everyone's list as I've stood up for him and held off a vote. But thems be the apples! |
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Post by SalTal on Jul 27, 2011 7:55:47 GMT -4
Sorry, to make a correction:
Up above, I intended to quote you, Lester, as only 'logic fail'. You'll see a misspelled /quote up there. What comes after the bogus /quote is all mine, not Lester's. Sorry.
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Post by SalTal on Jul 27, 2011 7:59:04 GMT -4
Oh! Also, don't slam me for not saying anything about a bulletproof vest when my PM said nothing explicitly about a bulletproof vest. Maybe I should have assumed something about it - but I try not to assume much in the game haha!
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Post by President Jeff on Jul 27, 2011 8:30:22 GMT -4
If your PM said nothing about a bulletproof vest, how do you know it was you who was shot at on Night 1
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Post by SalTal on Jul 27, 2011 8:46:35 GMT -4
Because there's a metaphorical interpretation about the word bullet proof and then then literal.
For example:
"That guy is bulletproof!"
Or
"Superman is bulletproof."
It didn't say anything about a vest is what I'm trying to say.
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Post by brandenharvey on Jul 27, 2011 11:16:46 GMT -4
It looks like a lynch may occur while I'm at work. I won't call it until I get home. Just saying.
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Post by Level-Two on Jul 27, 2011 11:35:50 GMT -4
Sally, I'm over it. That post was a whole lot of nothing, so I don't really feel the need to respond.
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Post by Blade on Jul 27, 2011 12:38:51 GMT -4
I havent been able to get on much cuz of work,
But i thought Rebel was scum yesterday and i still do now
vote:Rebel
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Post by brandenharvey on Jul 27, 2011 15:02:30 GMT -4
Vote Count:
"Simply Put" Johnny Rebel: 5 (Lester "L1" Only, President Jeff, Kurt Noble, tmarv, Blade)
THAT'S A LYNCH!!!
The town, angry that they have yet to catch one scum, surrounds one man.
Sally: Please allow him to defend himself.
L1: Shut up or your next.
They string him up and, as he dies, a badge falls out of his pocket.
DEAD - "Simply Put" Johnny Rebel - Town Cop
Night begins now. No more talking. Send your night actions in.
Night ends 6:00pm Thursday.
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Post by brandenharvey on Jul 28, 2011 18:12:53 GMT -4
The Mafia Hitman is looking for somwonw to kill. He sees tmarv following someone that he suspected to be Mafia. The Hitman laughed. He took the shot. It went through the ear of tmarv. His ear fell off and knocked over a bucket of water. The bucket of water was connected to a power line that was being held up by the bucket. The power line fell over and, combined with the water tmarv was standing in, electrocuted tmarv.
DEAD - tmarv - Town Watcher/Tracker
Day begins now. It'll run until midnight on Saturday.
With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.
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Post by SalTal on Jul 28, 2011 20:39:50 GMT -4
I'll break this ice.
Lester, your info with TMarv was good. Sorry I went hard at you. I'm thinking that this is enough to take you well off my list.
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Post by President Jeff on Jul 28, 2011 20:51:18 GMT -4
You know what
Vote:JC
Kinda of a gut feeling I've had for a while. He hasn't really brought much to the table in this game. Kinda flew under the Radar.
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Post by Kurt on Jul 28, 2011 21:25:55 GMT -4
Any solid reasoning for voting for JC? I only ask because we're getting slim after the lynches and kills, and we've located so scum as of right now, so it might help to have some analysis to go off of. I know he's been fairly quiet this game, but a wrong lynch here might pretty much end the game.
Plus, since you'll be gone for a few days, something to think about might help, ha.
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Post by Kurt on Jul 28, 2011 21:27:42 GMT -4
EWOP (or whatever it is)
*getting slim on numbers
*located no scum
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Post by President Jeff on Jul 28, 2011 21:33:32 GMT -4
Lester was right about Tmarv, which makes be believe he's a townie. Sally is bulletproof, so I can only assume she's a townie. I'm a townie. I believe your a townie Kurt. That leaves JC, Ebirah and Blade, all 3 guys who haven't send much in this game. All the night kills we're done with thought, meaning, the people who got killed, we're people at the time we knew already they we're town. JC and Blade played a lot of Mafia, but like I said, I got a gut feeling on JC. I could be wrong, I have no solid proof. I'm just hoping someone's role will give us some info.
I'm still open to unvoting JC if someone has a better arguement on someone else. But at this point in the game, we gotta gamble with a Lynch and hope for the best, cause if we don't lynch, or we're wrong, scum wins, assuming theres 3 scums.
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Post by jc on Jul 28, 2011 23:14:47 GMT -4
I don't know how anyone can take you seriously anymore, Jeff... You've led the lynch on JD and you pretty much damned Rebel... Batting 1.00 so far there, huh. Jeff did this last game and led his scum team to a win, and now he's doing it again. He claims Sally's bulletproof claim makes him believe she is town, and yet he completely ignores the fact the town cop cleared her.
Gambling with a lynch in what is probably lylo is stupid, as any mislynch costs us the game.
The fact that he came after me, makes me highly suspicious of blade who was his scum partner last game.
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Post by Michael Jennings on Jul 29, 2011 1:05:36 GMT -4
I agree. A mislynch will cost us the game which is something that shouldn't happen. I think both JC and Jeff have made good points but at the same time my way of thinking makes me think that one is scum and one is town. That's just my thinking going by their posts this day phase.
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Post by President Jeff on Jul 29, 2011 6:24:02 GMT -4
I don't know how anyone can take you seriously anymore, Jeff... You've led the lynch on JD and you pretty much damned Rebel... Batting 1.00 so far there, huh. Jeff did this last game and led his scum team to a win, and now he's doing it again. He claims Sally's bulletproof claim makes him believe she is town, and yet he completely ignores the fact the town cop cleared her. Gambling with a lynch in what is probably lylo is stupid, as any mislynch costs us the game. The fact that he came after me, makes me highly suspicious of blade who was his scum partner last game. Losing JD didn't hurt us as he wasn't playing the game. And the fact that once I voted him, he got lynched pretty quick proves that everyone that voted thought the same thing. As for Rebel, I was the second vote in that after Lester. Lets not forget, it takes more than 1 person to vote. I'm not buying your reasoning. To me, it sounds like a scummy reasoning. The whole, "lets not gamble on a lynch". If we don't gamble, we lose anyways. |
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Post by SalTal on Jul 29, 2011 6:31:18 GMT -4
I'm with Jeff: If we don't gamble, we are just getting picked off at night. You take a risk, you get the game done earlier (not that I want it to finish, but what's the point of sitting around, twiddling thumbs and waiting for night action to come around for a kill then doing nothing all over again?). Might as well take a risk now, when we have more people here to dig up stuff than do a kill with one less.
Anyone come up with information from last night?
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Post by Kurt on Jul 29, 2011 18:58:02 GMT -4
It's been like...12 hours, and we have nothing, so I'm assuming all the people with noteworthy night skills have been lynched or killed. But I'll gladly change my vote if other information arises.
I'm voting for JC because apart from a joke vote in the beginning, he hasn't voted at all. Since most of the active players have turned up as town, might as turn towards someone who has had little impact on the game actionswise. I think we hit the wrong person with JD, but had the right idea. At least one of the scum has to be going under the radar, so JC is our best bet, IMO.
Vote: JC
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Post by Kurt on Jul 29, 2011 18:59:11 GMT -4
EBWOP
Might as well*
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Post by brandenharvey on Jul 29, 2011 20:41:22 GMT -4
Vote Count:
JC: 2 (President Jeff, Kurt Noble)
With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.
Also, I won't be able to be back on until midnight tomorrow. A lynch will probably occur before then but I won't be able to call it. Them's the breaks. Sorry guys.
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Post by jc on Jul 30, 2011 17:49:48 GMT -4
It's been like...12 hours, and we have nothing, so I'm assuming all the people with noteworthy night skills have been lynched or killed. But I'll gladly change my vote if other information arises. I'm voting for JC because apart from a joke vote in the beginning, he hasn't voted at all. Since most of the active players have turned up as town, might as turn towards someone who has had little impact on the game actionswise. I think we hit the wrong person with JD, but had the right idea. At least one of the scum has to be going under the radar, so JC is our best bet, IMO. Vote: JCSo because I don't have an action there's no reason for me to be in the game? I mean seriously, dude, what have you brought to the table action wise? I mean besides voting off townies, what have you really offered? |
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Post by Kurt on Jul 30, 2011 18:13:30 GMT -4
It's been like...12 hours, and we have nothing, so I'm assuming all the people with noteworthy night skills have been lynched or killed. But I'll gladly change my vote if other information arises. I'm voting for JC because apart from a joke vote in the beginning, he hasn't voted at all. Since most of the active players have turned up as town, might as turn towards someone who has had little impact on the game actionswise. I think we hit the wrong person with JD, but had the right idea. At least one of the scum has to be going under the radar, so JC is our best bet, IMO. Vote: JCSo because I don't have an action there's no reason for me to be in the game? I mean seriously, dude, what have you brought to the table action wise? I mean besides voting off townies, what have you really offered? If I had a noteworthy night skill, I'd have offered it by now. And I never said that you not having an action in this game means you shouldn't be in it. My reasoning was that the most active (conversation-wise, not rolewise) players (Hart, Gates, etc.) have all come up town. Assuming there's three scum, at least one of them has to be somewhat inactive (which could explain the lack of a night 2 kill). It's not like I randomly voted for the sake of voting. I voted JD because I was suspicious of him not ever posting at all, even since day 1 (see the above theory), and Rebel because he had contradicting info. To be fair, I really didn't even want Rebel to lynched. I wanted him to roleclaim like I said in my post, which is why I voted for you, since you now can. If we don't try and get something in the next few hours, pretty sure the game is basically over. |
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Post by brandenharvey on Jul 31, 2011 0:17:02 GMT -4
DEADLINE!!
The town spent the early morning arguing.
Jeff: JC IS SCUM!!!! I KNOW IT!!!
JC: YOU'RE SCUM, JEFF!!!
However, by afternoon, the town had given up and hid in their houses, hoping the Mafia won't find them.
NO LYNCH!!
Night begins now. Get your night actions in.
Night ends at midnight Sunday.
Can I also say I'm REALLY disappointed about the level of activity this day phase. C'mon, guys.
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Post by brandenharvey on Aug 1, 2011 0:05:03 GMT -4
Night phase has ended.
The Mafia looked for their Godfather to try and organize a kill. But they couldn't find him.
NO NIGHT KILL!!!
Finally, as morning was coming, they found him dead. He had drown in the tub.
MODKILL - Blade - Mafia Godfather
Day begins now. It ends at midnight on Tuesday. I want activity today.
With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.
GO!
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Post by Level-Two on Aug 1, 2011 3:13:46 GMT -4
OMFG! I KNEW BLADE WAS SCUM! He would just come in and vote, leave and fly under the radar. I couldn't say anything during last day phase because I was kidnapped by scum.
For me, it comes down to JC or Ebriah. One of these two are most likely to be scum. I'm going to bed and try to piece this all together tomorrow.
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