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Post by President Jeff on Oct 1, 2011 14:07:36 GMT -4
Night 1 I think Knuckles forgot to investigate someone
Night 2 he investigated Branden
Night Three his investigation got block
and we're currently on day 4
Am I right Knuckles?
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Post by Reaver on Oct 1, 2011 14:09:27 GMT -4
i missed nite 1 and i was block from pence nite 3
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Post by Reaver on Oct 1, 2011 14:09:58 GMT -4
....so yes jeff ur right
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Post by brandenharvey on Oct 1, 2011 14:33:41 GMT -4
I didn't want to give my list away before because I was afraid of being modkilled.
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Post by Blade on Oct 1, 2011 14:54:11 GMT -4
I didn't want to give my list away before because I was afraid of being modkilled. But failed to give any legitimate reasoning apart from all of your "gut" posts right? |
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Post by Blade on Oct 1, 2011 14:55:06 GMT -4
i missed nite 1 and i was block from pence nite 3 Ok, thats where I was getting confused |
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Post by brandenharvey on Oct 1, 2011 18:01:23 GMT -4
I said in my posts that it WASN'T my gut.
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Post by Blade on Oct 1, 2011 18:45:28 GMT -4
Branden, you aren't even trying now.
the only reasoning you gave was half assed, and although you said it wasn't your gut, it clearly was.
Branden, I believe you are full of BS about the "list" There are ways you could have gone around it to actually make yourself useful in helping us lynch scum, however you choose to only divulge the information on day 4.
Everything you have voted on has been a "gut" post and i really think ti is your job to get either Jeff or Pence lynched
vote: Branden Harvey
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Post by President Jeff on Oct 1, 2011 18:56:21 GMT -4
Been thinking about it all day. I'm gonna give Pence the benifit of the doubt and say he's the town doctor. With that said
Unvote: Pence
And the more I think about it, the more I think Branden is scum. If he comes up town and he's who he claims he is, then Pence is our scum, so
Vote: Branden
Still waiting for Lester to confirm the vote count to show everyone that I am indeed a townie
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Post by Level-Two on Oct 1, 2011 20:58:52 GMT -4
Current vote count:
3: Branden Harvey (Kaji, Blade, President Jeff)
2: President Jeff (Pence, CJ Gates)
1: Kurt Noble (Knuckles)
1: Pence (Branden Harvey)
1: Knuckles (Kurt Noble)
Not voting: JC, Sally Talfourd
With 10 alive it takes 6 votes to lynch.
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Post by Kaji Fireson on Oct 1, 2011 21:11:05 GMT -4
Been thinking about it all day. I'm gonna give Pence the benifit of the doubt and say he's the town doctor. With that said Unvote: PenceAnd the more I think about it, the more I think Branden is scum. If he comes up town and he's who he claims he is, then Pence is our scum, so Vote: BrandenStill waiting for Lester to confirm the vote count to show everyone that I am indeed a townie Um...exactly how is the fact that your vote counts supposed to prove that you are town? All that proves is that you aren't the hammer, and as has already been hashed out in the thread, that didn't automatically make you town to begin with. So now your alignment is even more shady. But for now I will keep my vote on Branden, because if he comes up town, we at least have a plan of action. If we lynch you and you're town, then we just go back to our plan for today...because that doesn't make Pence scum, it only makes him scum if Branden's telling the truth, which is already in question, so we're right back here tomorrow, at least one, maybe two people down. |
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Post by C.J. Gates on Oct 1, 2011 21:14:38 GMT -4
The only thing it proves is that the one crutch that Jeff had to convince us he was town (hammer/no vote that a scum wouldn't have) was a lie (according to Lester's most recent vote count).
I wouldn't be opposed to changing my vote to Branden though. I wouldn't mind hearing what Jeff has to say about the vote thing first.
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Post by President Jeff on Oct 1, 2011 21:27:34 GMT -4
Lester fucked up the count, didn't you Lester. Have you forgotten my role?
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Post by Kaji Fireson on Oct 1, 2011 22:20:43 GMT -4
Well this isn't suspicious at all.
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Post by Kurt on Oct 2, 2011 0:07:45 GMT -4
*possible lightbulb* Jeff could be a doublevoter. Think about it...he only voted ASP before, and that was when there was one vote left...so in theory, when he hammered the lynch, it looked exactly like 1 vote, but was in reality 2, even though the second wasn't needed. Maybe that's why Jeff waited to vote last, so as to not show and avoid getting killed? If so, based on previous games, this clears Jeff unless there's a doublevoter scum, in which case holy crap... Of course...if the current vote-count is correct, and Jeff isn't a doublevoter (because he's not a voteless townie, that's for sure), I have no idea what Jeff's point is, ha. Just gotta wait, but we don't have much time. Let's wait a few hours, and if nothing happens....uh...I don't know what we do. >_> Moving on... i feel the same way about how noble how he shows up randomly and pushes for a lynch to take pressure off himself. i thought it was clear that i was blocked last nite didnt i? o well. the fact is, somebody could also be the traitor. i read back some of the southpark mafia thread and realized that not just 3 mafia could be around but more so that it would be 3 1/2 if ya count the traitor being partial mafia or so. branden was checked clean where as pence came up blocked. as far as being suspect jeff, EVERYBODY is suspect to me its just a matter of to what degree. trust me when i tell ya that wat i was trying to say was that i wouldnt put it past u to be scum but ur not high on the priority list....yet. but u guys go ahead and lynch me if u feel the urge. ull see i am who i say i am. i still think jc belong on that list of scum. but hey we will see. So...let me just get this straight Knuckles... 2 days ago: "Kurt might be scum because he's inactive and hasn't voted!" (shown to be false) Today: "Kurt's scum because he's here and pushing for a lynch!" (Yeah, okay) Talk about "damned if I do, damned if I don't." Had I NOT started being active, you would be hounding me right now. If I wasn't voting, I'd be hounded. It's like not like I'm just throwing a vote out either to throw pressure away from myself "randomly"...I wrote up a plan based on what people have said. Man, even if you're not scum, this is scummy as Hell reasoning. On the traitor thing...I *was* the traitor in that game! Thing is, the scum don't know who the traitor is in most cases, but I count them as scum. I still think there's 4 scum, so that would match my theory. Of course...if there are 4 scum, and we mislynch and then someone gets night-killed, we're playing 8/4, so we'd lose unless other factors came into play...let's hope we're right today on whatever decision we make. Anyway... Holy CRAP Blade pretty much just spiked a volleyball right in Harvey's face! I really hadn't even noticed that Harvey listed me as possible scum multiple times. It's really looking like Harvey is going to get the lynch, but I'm not switching my vote until this Jeff thing gets cleared up. I still think Knuckles is scum, and possibly so is Harvey with this info set-up. But someone in this Pence/Jeff/Harvey/Branden square has to be scum. Literally the only thing that makes me think Knuckles might not be scum is because NO ONE else has come into to call bullshit. Someone could call him out on it without roleclaiming...but no one has. I mean, it's possible there isn't a cop in this game, but you'd think that'd be a pretty common role, right? Anyway, this has been another edition of "Kurt's long winded posts." Stay tuned for tomorrow's edition, "Jeff's vote," and then I'll see you all on the next day phase! |
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Post by C.J. Gates on Oct 2, 2011 1:09:55 GMT -4
I agree, one of the four are scum (or multiples though if they ARE working together, they're throwing each other under the bus a lot). Could be we're dealing with one of those 4 and then JC and Sally.
I'm STILL going to be suspect of those two, if only because they're quiet. Remember, night one got extended because actions weren't in. Not saying they are our target now, but I'm just pointing it out.
As far as this situation...
Jeff was claiming that he couldn't vote until the end, which he did with ASP. He maintained that this day phase and placed a vote to prove that it wouldn't count because it's not the hammer. Yet it counted. Now, maybe Lester didn't realize it, but right now, Jeff is caught in a lie until Lester can verify. As for him being a double voter, the current vote count wouldn't make sense. And what also throws me is how he said he KNEW his vote wouldn't get counted, yet changed it anyways. If he knew it wouldn't count why bother changing it...
I do have a contingency plan in my mind, and it probably involves Harvey. Blade brought out some points, but the one that hits home with me is how Harvey didn't divulge any information about his list until day 4. You'd think we could have used that earlier. And unless he is a lyncher, I don't know of a role that would get that list...makes me think, like Noble eluded to earlier, that he is trying to throw us off into a whirl. We lynch one of them and then go for the other.
The only reason my vote remains on Jeff is because of the lie. Because if the vote count is right, and Jeff isn't a voteless player or a hammer, then he will have some 'splainin' to do.
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Post by brandenharvey on Oct 2, 2011 1:52:23 GMT -4
I've actually never heard of this role. But L1 could've made it up.
Remember, I made up a role in Branden Harvey's a Bastard Mafia.
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Post by Reaver on Oct 2, 2011 3:18:04 GMT -4
LOL noble will flip his lid if he ever saw me lynched and my role in this game. not just role but person im portraying. although im probably not doing a good of it, its still pretty funny (at least to me anyways)
noble: ur good at this game no doubt, ya got the exp and have the advantage of playing this game b4.
GRATS!
im not worried about being lynched so everybody can feel free to do so.
i honestly feel that u r scum. its not a gut feeling, and maybe its just cuz im new but the fact is i think ur too good. ur not as active as us and when u r, u r trying to push hard. and ur good at it. maybe thats just a giant loopdy loop but in my opinion, for somebody who has absolutely NO ROLE in this game, ur doing damn well for urself. my guess is that ur the blocker to be a lil more specific. ya see, i was blocked last nite and by coincidence, happened to be right after we had a similar convo on day 3. the same day that it as made obvious about my role. i guess we will all have to see wont we?
the vote stands.
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Post by President Jeff on Oct 2, 2011 7:15:13 GMT -4
Looks like Lester didn't give me full info on my role and I misunderstood it.
However, if a couple of people vote Branden, then you'll figure out my role as a townie. without role claiming, someone has already said what my role is
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Post by Nick Watson on Oct 2, 2011 9:56:20 GMT -4
Alright, Jeff...you win this round you sneaky bastard, but if Harvey comes up town then you have some splainin to do.
Unvote: Jeff
Vote: Harvey
Also, I don't know how Branden coming up town would make me the target since I have yet to even push for a Harvey lynch except for now, but you have pushed for it all game.
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Post by President Jeff on Oct 2, 2011 10:04:40 GMT -4
If Harvey comes up town, then the Info he has of either me or you being scum must be true. And I know I'm not scum, and one more vote on Branden should prove that
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Post by Kaji Fireson on Oct 2, 2011 10:25:38 GMT -4
So...you're some sort of weird mayor/hammer hybrid thingie?
Also, just because Harvey comes up town doesn't mean his info was legit. He could be making shit up, or, like you, he could have misunderstood the information given to him. The only thing I see a lynch on Harvey proving is, if he turns up town, that would tell us Knuckles is not insane and his investigations can be trusted.
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Post by C.J. Gates on Oct 2, 2011 11:00:59 GMT -4
Also, just because Harvey comes up town doesn't mean his info was legit. He could be making shit up, or, like you, he could have misunderstood the information given to him. The only thing I see a lynch on Harvey proving is, if he turns up town, that would tell us Knuckles is not insane and his investigations can be trusted. Exactly. Lynching Harvey will show us the validity to what Knuckles has said. The only way that his lynch will help the situation between Jeff and Pence is that we will see what his role is and see if it makes sense that he got three names. I'm still not 100% on Jeff, though. If he misunderstood his role, and his role has been mentioned already (I'd have to read back and figure out what has been mentioned), does that make him townie? Though I find it hard to think that a scum would put himself out there the way he did and then gather all sorts of attention with the misinformation (especially when Harvey is saying one of him and Pence is scum). Even though I'm not 100% sold, I will give him a pass this day... UnvoteVote: Branden HarveyAs Kaji pointed out, we can check the validity of Knuckles and see if it makes sense that Jeff and Pence would be on a list he was given. |
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Post by President Jeff on Oct 2, 2011 11:19:19 GMT -4
With CJ's Vote, that makes 5 votes for Branden. Now no one vote or unvote Branden until Lester gets here
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Post by Kurt on Oct 2, 2011 11:22:19 GMT -4
Love the subtle rolefishing Knuckles. Trust me, I've already hinted at my role without being obvious at all, and should it arise, I'll show you where I hinted at it. But that's for the next day phase. But on a side note, thank you for the compliments!
I don't really know what's going on with Jeff...maybe is he is a doublevoter than he has to separately list both votes? That's all I got. He can't be the hammer because he voted before the final vote...speaking of which...
JC definitely won't hammer, and Sally only might, Harvey obviously won't vote himself, and Knuckles voting Harvey would throw all sorts of red flags, so I guess this this one's on me. Lynching Harvey still validates the plan I listed earlier, so let's hope this works. Really hope we're right on this one guys, because we might have lost if we're not.
Unvote: Knuckles
Vote: Harvey
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Post by President Jeff on Oct 2, 2011 11:24:38 GMT -4
Noble, Unvote Branden.
We need 5 votes on Branden to prove my innocence
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Post by Kurt on Oct 2, 2011 11:26:31 GMT -4
I already believe you're innocent, and I don't think the unvote will be counted, but I'll do it anyway.
Unvote: Harvey
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Post by Blade on Oct 2, 2011 12:47:26 GMT -4
Woah!!
It won't show anything now, because a lynch was reached, so Noble's unvote becomes invalid.
Noble, that was a pretty bad thing to do, now all you have done it put more doubt in peoples mind about Jeff
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Post by Kurt on Oct 2, 2011 13:02:38 GMT -4
Woah!! It won't show anything now, because a lynch was reached, so Noble's unvote becomes invalid. Noble, that was a pretty bad thing to do, now all you have done it put more doubt in peoples mind about Jeff Yeah, I know, I fucked up on Jeff's reveal. I didn't see his post about waiting until L1's vote count to clarify what was going on. If he is a doublevoter, I just thought it would show up as 2 votes regularly, not possibly at the end. If L1 posts a final vote count, then we'll see it. But, that's my bad guys... Hopefully, if Harvey is revealed as scum, then we can assume Jeff's being truthful. |
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Post by C.J. Gates on Oct 2, 2011 13:05:32 GMT -4
So Jeff is claiming that he can vote, and then he adds a second vote as the hammer? So essentially he's a double voter and the second vote hammers?
IF that's it, still doesn't read like a scum role...
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