APW MAFIA GAME THREAD

[Level-Two]

Chapter four: Jimmy!

The scent of chicken on a barbeque fills the air; as several dozen people chillout and mingle on a chilly september evening. Outside of the backyard two large APW funded security guards controlled the traffic in regards to who got in and who came out. Today, they had their handsful.

Security: I'm sorry, I'm afraid we cannot let you in Ms. Talfourd. You've specifically been banned from the premisis. So, we're going to ask you to get the hell out of here kindly, once.

Sally Talfourd: Oh, how considerate of you?

Sally Talfourd said sarcastically as she rolled her eyes and put her hands on her hips, raising an eyebrow in the air.

Sally Talfourd: Are you sure there's nothing I can do to change your mind?

The two security guards nervously looked at each-other as Sally Talfourd stepped forward, grabbing one of the security guards hands.

Sally Talfourd: I don't bite, I promise.

Meanwhile...

In the backyard; Biff Riboflavin and James Chambers stand in-front of a large table with several people surrounding them cheering them on. Several dozen hotdogs are lined up on the table. Biff and James smile at each-other shaking hands as the crowd around them cheers and claps.

Biff Riboflavin: You're going down this time, big guy!

Biff Riboflavin reached over and grabbed a bottle of ketchup and mustard passing it over to James Chambers who laces his hotdogs with the added flavouring. He passes the bottle over to Biff Riboflavin who nods his head back and forth.

James Chambers: Are you sure you don't want to at least enjoy the taste of your loss?

Chambers slams the bottles on the table as the hot dog eating contest is underway. Biff Riboflavin get's an early start shoving multiple hotdogs in his mouth at once; while James Chambers gobbles the wieners like a professional pornstar. Eventually, the former champ get's the lead on his protege. However, a quarter way through he's starting to feel the effects.

EWWWWWWWW

James Chambers barfed onto the table and collapsed to the floor. His body convulsing in a disturbing manner. Dr. Matt; dressed in a suit comes to the aide of his freind but he couldn't be saved. James Chambers was airlifted to the hospital; his professional wrestling career, in question.

We jumpcut to Nathaniel Havok in a lab cooking up a green potion.

We jumpcut to Biggs and Nathaniel Havok sneaking into the backyard block party, while Sally Talfourd distracted security.

We jumpcut to a shot of Biggs lacing the ketchup and mustard with the substance Havok had prepared the night before.

Lastly, we see Nathaniel Havok and Biggs make a run for it jumping over the backyard fense and making their way into a getaway car driven by Sally Talfourd.

Dead day three: James Chambers- Nathaniel Havok- Face Miller

Deadline for day four is 9:00 PM EST Wensday.

With 11 alive it takes 6votes to lynch.

[brandenharvey]

How's he a miller unless he was actually scum? And, if he was scum, who killed him?

[Kurt]

I'm guessing that means he would have come up as scum if investigated. Millers work both ways, IIRC.

But Branden...want to explain the quick topic thing that got ASP lynched? That's what's on my mind anyway.

I'll have a more in-depth opinion on the previous day later. Too sleepy at the moment.

[brandenharvey]

Basically, ASP, Ebirah, and I have a QT together. It's not connected to this game at all. It just makes it easier for us to talk as a stable than it would be to send messages back and forth.

In a Mafia game I was playing in in CWC, I was scum. I accidently posted my night action in the Elite Posse QT, rather than the Kill Midas Mafia Scum QT. If you don't believe me, go over to CWC and look. I was modkilled for it because Ebirah is playing that game as well and, because of my mistake, knew I was scum.

[Reaver]

mistakes happen harv, this game proves it with asp.

[Kaji Fireson]

Indeed...I guess I'm glad he got killed in the night before someone could investigate him and get misled. Though I'm now rather at a loss of what to do next; Branden was my next suspect. Something about Jeff still doesn't sit right, but not not right enough to throw down a vote for him again yet.

I guess I'll wait for Kurt's input, and also for me to have more time, as I've got to get out of here to work here soon. I'll try to check in at lunch.

[President Jeff]

With Havok being gone now and him gunning after Kurt, I think its safe to say Kurt is a townie. Don't think Kurt would be dumb enough to kill the guy that's been voting for him

And since this is day 3, I expect who ever the cop is to come in with some info

[brandenharvey]

Has anyone ever thought that maybe L1 decided to make this a vanilla game?

[President Jeff]

Why would you say that Branden?

[brandenharvey]

Because nobody came out yesterday with their night action results.

[Kaji Fireson]

If he did that, why would he have made Havok a miller and Ebirah vengeful?

No, there are definitely roles in this game. I just hope someone with a role actually pipes in with information. I know we can't claim roles, but there are ways around that to still hint at info.

Of course, the danger with that is that mafia people can hint at roles that are false. Still trying to wrap my head around the layers of these things.

[President Jeff]

I'm 99 Percent sure there's a cop in this game. Last night should have been the night the cop investigate someone, so Speak up Mr. Cop, unless there's a role blocker, but even if there is, role blockers, thats info that someone should be giving us if their role has been blocked

[Johnny Rebel]

Sept 26, 2011 12:35:45 GMT -4 President Jeff said:

I'm 99 Percent sure there's a cop in this game. Last night should have been the night the cop investigate someone, so Speak up Mr. Cop, unless there's a role blocker, but even if there is, role blockers, thats info that someone should be giving us if their role has been blocked

Why would you be 99% sure there is a cop but then not so sure there is a role blocker? Are you making up percentage or do you know something that the rest of us don't? Is it possible that maybe you are the cop and investigated yourself during the first night phase to make sure you weren't insane? Why is Mountain Dew green? Couldn't they have thought of a more appealing color?

[President Jeff]

99% sure theres a cop because I'm assuming every game has a cop of some sorts, but you never know, which is where that 1% comes in

And I don't think every game so far has had a roleblocker in it, that why I don't know if theres any roleblockers in the game

If I had info, I'd share it, but I have none because I don't have a night role. I have a role, but its only good during the day.

[brandenharvey]

Are you a lie detector?

[Kaji Fireson]

I'd lay money that Jeff is a...hammer, was it called? He can only put in the final vote to lynch someone. I don't know if that makes him automatically town or not, but I'm certain after the last day phase that that's his role. Still not sure how much I trust him, but he's off my list for now.

Honestly, J-Reb's making me quirk an eyebrow. We all thought he was playing Branden as his role, but ASP was Branden. The only other character I can think of that would act that way is Biff, maybe, but Lester revealed in the last write-up that no one is Biff. So now I'm wondering what his motives are in acting like he is.

[brandenharvey]

I'm unsure who J-Reb is. But I think he's town. I'm starting to think Jeff is town as well. I'm honestly stumped about who the scum are in this game. They're doing a good job at blending in.

[Reaver]

agreed and during some investigating myself, its safe to say (regardless of how retarded he acts...) harvey is clean. now tho, im going to throw something out there that might be strange but how often has rebel posted? everything he has said thus far has been (admittedly) comical, he seems to have been blending in like a topless whore on a nude beach. then again being new, that just might be part of the game.

discuss.....

[C.J. Gates]

Is that clearance on Branden through a role or just what you're thinking? Though I reserve the fact that if Branden was looked at, he still could be the Godfather if he came up clean.

After that...well, we don't have too much to go on outside of how people are posting. J-Reb could be Kash for all we know, but what I do know is that J-Reb is kind of standing out to me.

Is it possible that maybe you are the cop and investigated yourself during the first night phase to make sure you weren't insane?

I think Jeff is implying that whoever is the Cop SHOULD have done this, regardless if it's him...so I'm not too sure you've really paid attention or caught what anyone has been saying. If his PR IS somebody, then we can assume he's not Biggs, Havok or Sally, though...if there's a hiding fourth who knows!

[President Jeff]

I find it odd that Rebel went from talking weird the other days to talking normal today. Its like he was acting like Branden Harvey but onw that “Branden Harvey” is dead, his plan back fired.

But lets look at the votes from yesterday minus the people who are now gone

7: asp (Blade, Kaji, Pence, Kurt Noble, Knuckles, CJ Gates, Jeff)
1: President Jeff (Branden Harvey)


Not voting: JC, Johnny Rebel, Sally Talfourd

Lets assume what Knuckles is saying is true. He’s a cop which makes him town and he clears Branden. And I’m town. That leaves as possible scum

Blade
Kaji
CJ
Noble
JC
Rebel
Sally
Pence


Who seems like the most scum to me

Pence
Rebel

Pence because he provides nothing to the game. Sure, a few others do as well, but I’ve seen Pence online and not say anything, compared to the other guys, I haven’t see. Also he jumped all over ASP when ASP posted about the QT. Changing from JC to ASP pretty quick seems strange. Then attacked Sally for changing her vote

Rebel, Based on the beginning of my post.

As for my #3 scum, I’m unsure. Maybe JC? But he hasn’t posted enough to get a good enough read on him.

[President Jeff]

Question for you Knuckles.

If you are a cop, did you clear yourself on Night 1? or did you investigate someone else?

[Kaji Fireson]

Sept 26, 2011 16:21:04 GMT -4 President Jeff said:

I find it odd that Rebel went from talking weird the other days to talking normal today. Its like he was acting like Branden Harvey but onw that “Branden Harvey” is dead, his plan back fired.

IS he talking normally, though? He had to squeeze in a bit more coherence in that post to make it clear what he was asking, but all in all, the main mannerisms (always phrasing things as a question, including asinine comments at the end) he's been using are consistent. Perhaps you want him to seem like he's deviating from his role to take attention away from other points.

Now I'm not going to lie, I still think it's suspicious that J-Reb's playing this up, because Kash, if he is Kash, is a stoner. Now maybe other stoners act that way, but what I've seen of Kash doesn't match up with that personality.

Now, something that occurs to me is that, which seems to have gone completely unnoticed in the thread up to now, is that this is a large game. Some of us thought that maybe there were 4 mafia members for this large game...but what if there are more than two parties? I mean, there was a pretty big game in T-Marv's abandoned Annoying Celebrity Mafia, and there was a third party role there.

If Rebel is Kash...what's to keep him from being the leader of a third party Dangertainment? Maybe it's not just Sally (in game, of course) that we need to be hunting for.

[C.J. Gates]

Something about Jeff doesn't sit right with me. He's being aggressive, but there have been some moments, like his insistent lynch on Branden for no reason (followed up by him saying that he doesn't want a day one lynch). Maybe he's trying to throw us off his trail by throwing J-Rebs name in. I will agree with Kaji though, it doesn't look like he's deviated from his PR, I'm just trying to figure out who his PR could be. He asks a lot of random questions at the end of his posts...anyone know of a APW Mega Star like that?

I'm not going to vote for Jeff yet, though. I'm going to read back through and see if anything jumps out to be, but right now, you're high on my list Jeff. The whole hammer thing could be a ploy/lie that can be easily done since you could either note vote or wait until people were voting.

[Kurt]

Alright, here's what I'm thinking:

If we're going to be looking for scum, *this* is the list we need to search.

1. Blade
2. Kaji
3. Pence
4. Kurt Noble (I'm keeping myself on here because I find it absolutely hilarious when people take themselves off of these things to look more innocent)
5. Knuckles
6. CJ Gates
7. President Jeff

While it's not confirmed obviously, one, maybe even two of the scum are on this last. You can't tell me that at least one of them didn't hop on the lynch wagon for the first real lynch. I'd especially look at the peeps that jumped on the ASP wagon with little to no hesitation.

So let's look and see what we got...

1. Blade - No idea. Gray area, I think.

2. Kaji - Kind of been under the radar for me. He's introduced a lot of potential theories and kept active throughout. I want to believe he's town, honestly.

3. Pence - Honestly...seems kind of scummy to me. Hopped on the JC wagon because of his gut feeling, and then switched to ASP when the wagon started pulling his way. I mean, his reasoning was okay, but the initial JC vote stands out to me. Plus he pretty much dodged the conversation bits about him during the last day after my long post.

4. Me - Okay, sure, ha. My read on ASP was bad, but I like to think I explained my thought process opposed to just jumping on the wagon.

5. Knuckles - Well...we can pretty much infer he's the cop. He needs to answer what he got from Night 1 now though. As douchey as it sounds...he's on my suspicion list for the 2nd scum. Going over his posts, he just mainly seems to be agreeing with the majority, not really stepping on any toes that he doesn't have to, but that could just warming up to the game. That leaves the read on Harvey. He's hoping that we don't lynch Harvey based on the town labeling, so if Harvey is scum, he's either insane or scum. Thus, we need to know what he did night 1. This one is iffy for me, but I'd rather throw my thoughts out there than sit on them.

6. CJ Gates - Getting a town read. Would be hilarious if he and Kaji are the scum, ha.

7. President Jeff - I still think he's town. Just too much attention being drawn to him to ignore. He says he has no night role, so the hammer could work, but he hasn't hinted one way or another. I mean, he did hammer the lynch with pretty much no fight, but I haven't made a decision about that.

So of this list, my summarized thoughts:

Town: Jeff, Gates, Kaji
Unknown: Blade, Knuckles
Mafia: Pence

Other random thoughts:

- I still think Rebs is town, just based on my PR/shown scum theory. He's acting like his role on this day, so nothing unusual there.

- Assuming we're at 4 scum (I'm holding onto that dammit!), we can afford two more mislynches and two more night kills, assuming those go off as hitched. That would make it 7 players, with 4 scum. If it's 3, we can survive another day. There's also a few roles than could extend game time in the case of a failed mafia kill.

- We have, in my mind, a couple of routes today:

1. Lynch Pence. A mislynch gives us no info.
2. Lynch Harvey. Will give us a definite read on Knuckles. Mislynch confirms Knuckles town status.
3. Lynch Knuckles. Correct lynch allows us to scope who has avoided mentioning him throughout the last few days. Mislynch kills our cop.
4. Lynch other peeps, which gives us nothing unless more night info comes up.

If I've messed any facts up or something didn't make sense, let me know...I'm tired as Hell, and won't be around tomorrow until tonight. I'll let people relay their thoughts before voting.

[brandenharvey]

I was thinking of going with Pence. Because he is only responding when questioned and not really adding much to the game. Plus, if we mislynch, we're not really losing anyone that's going to be any help, other than a vote. So, because I'm going to be at work all day tomorrow, I'm going to Vote: Pence Weatherlight.

[C.J. Gates]

Sept 26, 2011 23:27:38 GMT -4 Kurt said:

2. Lynch Harvey. Will give us a definite read on Knuckles. Mislynch confirms Knuckles town status.

This might be the ONLY thing I don't agree with...If we lynch Harvey, no matter what he comes up, I wouldn't say Knuckles has been read definitively. He could have made that up, especially if people were leaning toward him being town, Knuckles "clearing him" might have been an effort to attach his name to the Town wagon.

Though something about the night kills has me reminded of last game. Seems like the kills so far have been to set up someone else...

[C.J. Gates]

EBWOP

If we're going to vote to lynch someone based on their activity/contributions, I'd put JC ahead of Pence. Pence has been the more active of the two.

[brandenharvey]

How about we lynch Pence and, if he comes up town, we lynch Harvey.

[C.J. Gates]

How does that solve anything?

[Kurt]

Sept 26, 2011 23:57:03 GMT -4 @brandenharvey said:

How about we lynch Pence and, if he comes up town, we lynch Harvey.

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