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Post by Nathaniel Havok on Oct 31, 2011 14:18:53 GMT -4
I understand your suspicious, L1. However, you have to remember, this is only my second game, and I was the second one killed last game. Trust me, I'm not scum. I have done nothing but go with my gut, and my gut told me that Kurt was scum, due to him defending Kaji after Sally was killed.
I sent that message hoping that your hardcore investigations would be assisted with my thoughts. However, I see now that it did more bad then good. I really didn't know what to say to anyone in my night action, but I knew that NOT sending in a night action, would NOT help the town. You're thinking WAY too deep into this. Facts are facts, and Knuckles HAS to be the last scum. Next on deck would be JamesV.
With how much I have been cleared, I trust that you'll re-read all of these posts, and notice that I have done nothing but try to assist the town.
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Post by Kurt on Oct 31, 2011 14:20:16 GMT -4
Ha, I like how L1's reasoning pretty much blows mine to pieces. >_>
The voteless aspects covers him not voting for Kaji/Atkens, and I'm not sure why I'm taking Atkens info of JC/Knuckles at face value. I guess I was just thinking he was trying to save face in case someone had investigated him, but framing Knuckles now does make sense.
Knuckles, maybe to clear up this issue, could you vote me? If you are voteless, I have no reason to further suspect you and can move my attention/vote elsewhere.
Let's hear from Havok then. I trust L1's info here, so let's see Havok's defense.
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Post by Nathaniel Havok on Oct 31, 2011 14:22:55 GMT -4
EBWOP
Kurt made VERY good points. And if you'll go back and read, Lester, you'll see that I have been on Knux since yesterdays tirade. Not only did he throw me under the bus and try to take me down with him, he also seemed like he was backed into a corner, and was trying to find any way out of it. Vote for me if you'd like, Lester. But you're only going to be prolonging the game, killing a town member, and giving the mafia more time to kill.
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Post by Level-Two on Oct 31, 2011 14:23:28 GMT -4
Knuckles is not scum. Stop parading this lie. In your case specifically a lie I think you know full well is a lie. There's no reasonable explanation for why you told me to go after Kurt Noble and not Knuckles. None. You've been jumping on votes that look juicy all game and I don't like it one bit.
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Post by Kurt on Oct 31, 2011 14:24:47 GMT -4
EWOP And now Nathaniel Havok goes and AGREES with Noble and votes Knuckles? WTF? If he is scum, could be hoping on my early vote hoping that it'll lead to a lynch wagon. If he really is alone, seems like the only strategy he can adopt right now. But Havok, why do you think I'm scum? Just curious.
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Post by Level-Two on Oct 31, 2011 14:25:14 GMT -4
EWOP
Mod, please clarify if JC was mod killed.
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Post by Arcadia on Oct 31, 2011 14:26:46 GMT -4
There was a note left on day one as well. The logic seems well enough, with the notes and Havok having left a few people notes themselves, I'm going to say that L1's argument seems incredibly valid right now, and that Havok is most definitely the post-it notes, which are most probably scum, considering all the note leaving at the scenes of the crimes. Even ignoring the extra night notes that are being revealed, this is enough for me to vote.
Vote: Havok
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Post by Arcadia on Oct 31, 2011 14:29:11 GMT -4
UNVOTE
I just read Knobles response...posting again in a second.
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Post by Nathaniel Havok on Oct 31, 2011 14:29:26 GMT -4
Kurt, I thought you were scum when you defended Kaji after Sally was killed. You've made it clear (for the most part) that you're trying to help the town by revealing who I am, and mapping out the entire game. I'm still not sure (since you've jumped on L1's conspiracy theory so quick), but Knux has went crazy defending himself. He sounds almost pissed off. But read my previous 3 or 4 posts, all of my defense is in there.
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Post by Nathaniel Havok on Oct 31, 2011 14:31:11 GMT -4
THERE HAS TO BE A FRAMER!!!!!!!!
Before I am lynched (and I get the feeling that I'm about to be) I will let you all know, I sent JC a Night Action 2 nights ago. Now he's gone? Keep this in mind, after you lynch me out of stupidity.
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Post by Arcadia on Oct 31, 2011 14:33:05 GMT -4
Noble....how is it that you voted today? I know damn well you can't. Not today.
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Post by Arcadia on Oct 31, 2011 14:35:17 GMT -4
Furthermore, noble, Knuckles couldn't vote on day 2 for the same reason that I KNOW you can't be voting now.
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Post by Level-Two on Oct 31, 2011 14:36:09 GMT -4
lol, just remember Atkens was lynched when I caught him in a lie. You say you were suspicious of noble after the kaji ordeal (as am I) but that was days ago. You sent that note AFTER the atkens lynch. What you're essentially saying is that you believe Noble is town; AFTER I pointed out your inconsistencies. Sorry, but that isn't trustworthy.
According to your votes, Knuckles was the last person you were suspicious of heading into the night phase... yet you tell me to ''investigate'' Kurt Noble; and then jump on someone else's vote, like you've done every single time, every single day.
I see your patterns, bro.
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Post by Kurt on Oct 31, 2011 14:36:46 GMT -4
Noble....how is it that you voted today? I know damn well you can't. Not today. Wait, what? I'm able to vote. I voted for Atkens yesterday. I'm honestly not sure what you mean by not being able to vote "today." Can you explain?
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Post by Nathaniel Havok on Oct 31, 2011 14:37:45 GMT -4
Again, it seems to me like the last Mafia member is a framer. Notes are left, I've been on Knux for a day or two, and it makes me look like Mafia.
Sticking with my vote, because it's apparent to me that Knuckles wants me gone, so everyone will get off of his case.
Think about it like this... I'm all over his case, telling him that I don't THINK, but I KNOW he's scum. I'm being framed by him, so you people wont agree with me. I'm friggin Italian, I know how it works! You don't want to get caught, you get rid of those who could call you out!
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Post by Arcadia on Oct 31, 2011 14:39:17 GMT -4
I'm saying that I used my action last night to remove your vote, dude. I did it to knuckles on day 2 and atken on day 1. Not trying to role claim here, but I sent my fucking action in, i have the message in my outbox. Did you not receive notice of it or are you trying to throw us when you can't actually vote today.
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Post by Level-Two on Oct 31, 2011 14:40:20 GMT -4
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Wait, Havok. What are you saying? How is Knuckles framing you? Are you saying he has a framer role? And if so, based on what?
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Post by Arcadia on Oct 31, 2011 14:42:27 GMT -4
Now I have no idea what's going on. Maybe someone roleblocked my action last night. But if they did, our count would be at 7, not 6. I'm so fucking confused right now. Fuck it, I'm just going off of what you guys have from now on.
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Post by Kurt on Oct 31, 2011 14:42:38 GMT -4
I'm saying that I used my action last night to remove your vote, dude. I did it to knuckles on day 2 and atken on day 1. Not trying to role claim here, but I sent my fucking action in, i have the message in my outbox. Did you not receive notice of it or are you trying to throw us when you can't actually vote today. I honestly didn't receive a message. My last message is from Rebel.
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Post by Nathaniel Havok on Oct 31, 2011 14:43:05 GMT -4
READ LESTER! FRIGGIN READ! All of my explanations are there, and you need to read it all.
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Post by Nathaniel Havok on Oct 31, 2011 14:45:31 GMT -4
EBWOP
I'm done explaining myself. Vote me Lester, you'll look like an idiot after. Conspiracy theories are just that... THEORIES.
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Post by Level-Two on Oct 31, 2011 14:47:59 GMT -4
There's ZERO proof of your claims, though. You aren't 100% sure of fuck all because you have a role that helps you and does little for the town. You can't even tell me whether or not JC was night killed. So, I'd think twice before talking about conspiracy theories.
If Knuckles was trying to frame you, I'd hear him pushing your lynch... yet he's done nothing of the sort. You jumped on him for a small little comment and refused to let go ever since. It's kinda pathetic.
There's only one thing that can save you at this point. Hurry up, Harvey.
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Post by Level-Two on Oct 31, 2011 14:49:30 GMT -4
EWOP
As long as I can kick you in the balls when Knuckles turns up town, dorkface.
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Post by Nathaniel Havok on Oct 31, 2011 14:51:13 GMT -4
Are you joking, Lester? REALLY? Knuckles isn't on lynching me... BECAUSE HE'S NOT ONLINE! You're really starting to look like scum. You know it's obvious that he's not online, yet you say something like that? Again, lynch me. Please, now I'm begging you to lynch me. I want you to look like a fool for a minute or two, after you find out the truth.
Vote: Nathaniel Havok
Here, I'll help.
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Post by Michael Jennings on Oct 31, 2011 14:54:55 GMT -4
Knuckles is town, people. How hard is this to understand? He was targetted TWICE by Atken, who was scum. How is it there's still people calling Knuckles scum? Give me a break. I'm almost tempted to vote for Havok just for that garbage alone. Jeff, Level-One, and Arcadia are the other players I'm getting town reads from just from posts alone. Noble is also on my possible scum list just for the fact that he conveniently left off that I also voted for Kaji and not just Atken. So, with that said, either Noble or Havok will be getting my vote this day phase. Going to wait until I get off from work to place a vote though. Want to see if anybody brings anything concrete to the table before doing so.
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Post by Nathaniel Havok on Oct 31, 2011 14:56:24 GMT -4
I voted for me, because I now want to be lynched. Reason for wanting to be lynched, I want Lester to know he's not the detective that he thinks that he is. Please, lynch me.
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Post by Michael Jennings on Oct 31, 2011 14:56:35 GMT -4
And of course Havok votes for himself right after I post that. Oy vay. I'll let someone else hammer. I think he might be a jester or something. Too risky IMO.
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Post by Nathaniel Havok on Oct 31, 2011 14:57:22 GMT -4
EBWOP
Read my post above your last post, James. That's the Gods honest reason.
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Post by Kurt on Oct 31, 2011 15:01:50 GMT -4
Knuckles is town, people. How hard is this to understand? He was targetted TWICE by Atken, who was scum. How is it there's still people calling Knuckles scum? Give me a break. I'm almost tempted to vote for Havok just for that garbage alone. Jeff, Level-One, and Arcadia are the other players I'm getting town reads from just from posts alone. Noble is also on my possible scum list just for the fact that he conveniently left off that I also voted for Kaji and not just Atken. So, with that said, either Noble or Havok will be getting my vote this day phase. Going to wait until I get off from work to place a vote though. Want to see if anybody brings anything concrete to the table before doing so. That was my bad, honestly. I must have missed your name when scrolling through the posts. But I'm not out to get you or anything of the sort. I think you're a town player though, as I stated in my post. And to be honest, L1 was right when he said it's likely that Atkens lied about targeting Knuckles twice to try and set him up. But this day obviously raises the point that I'm in a gray area in almost everyone's mind. As I said earlier, I'd like to think my actions have spoken for themselves in trying to clear as many people as I can.
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Post by Nathaniel Havok on Oct 31, 2011 15:05:28 GMT -4
LYNCH ME! DO IT! PLEASE! I want my lynch to lead to other deaths in the Town, so Lester can see that I was indeed town. I'm done explaining myself, as I have again and again. While Atkins avoided answering Lester, I answered. However, I still got the same old "explain yourself" posts after I had already explained. So let's let L1 have his lynch, so he can go right back to the drawing board.
PS... I love you, Lester (no homo)
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