SAW Mafia Game Thread

[President Jeff]

oops

Vote: Knuckcles

[Jesse Nuñez™]

Also the note JamesV got specifically says Knuckles is scum. However James was a LIAR in this game. I know he probably believes the note to be true however what if due to his role as the Liar that the note was written to make him lie to us with the note when he believed as player that it was the truth?

[Reaver]

exactly!!

think about it guys, why would the scum cap off james? they did it to leave me to be lynched by the rest of town saving them the trouble. james was the liar in his role. town or not, his role still plays part somehow. its just a matter of deciphering it.

now what if he was some sort of traitor? its possible but i dont know well enuff about mafia to no if its a role or not. we cant afford to keep lynching townies.

[jc]

Nunez, there is already a search to replace pence since he isn't around. Its strange that you would come out and try to get attention on him for being quiet when he has not ben on thee boards. Also, it logs liked we are one vote away from a lynch. Maybe even a win, and here you are not voting for knuckles even though it is quite obvious that james was telling thee truth.

If this game doesn't end, I know who goes next. Explains why you kept on james along with knuckles and L1.

[Reaver]

JC, its 5 to lynch. unless 1 of u can vote twice, then im up to 3. if it helps the town win then do wat u gotta do but it still doesnt make sense. cap me and ur only helping the scum get closer to the win.

[jc]

You capped off james to do exactly what you are doing now knuckles. Like I said before, the smart play would have ben to kill off a different townie, you would have ben lynched today for siding with L1, they would have nk'd another random townie, then let us lynch james the filtering day phase. They kill another random townie that night and we start the following day with no leads andc down 5 townies.

You were only concerned with clearing yourself though, so you pulled the trigger on james hoping we would believe your story.

[Reaver]

u no damn well that doesnt help me. it does nuttn but hurt me. it makes me curious tho, y r u pushing so hard for me JC? since james is gone, id honestly have to admit that u r probably the most experienced guy here am i rite?

something seems fishy, but since i have no definitive proof ill remain voteless ATM.

[jc]

Sorry, I counted votes, not who made them.

[jc]

The scenario I explained doesn't help you if you are town. They would have just let you get lynched because out would have set james up to get lynched the followring day.

The scenario we are in right now, is that you have one less person being vocal against you. The one that was most vocal. You don't have to be an experienced player to know james' death benefits you more than it hurts you. It gives you an out you wouldn't have had if he was alive.

[Reaver]

ebwop

Nov 22, 2011 18:17:34 GMT -4 jc said:

You capped off james to do exactly what you are doing now knuckles. Like I said before, the smart play would have ben to kill off a different townie, you would have ben lynched today for siding with L1, they would have nk'd another random townie, then let us lynch james the filtering day phase. They kill another random townie that night and we start the following day with no leads andc down 5 townies.

You were only concerned with clearing yourself though, so you pulled the trigger on james hoping we would believe your story.

is it me or does it sound like ur expecting more? my guess would be 3 scum (just based off the past 3 games) so if L-O and Rebel were 2, then theoretically theres 1 more. lets just say that ur rite for a second and im the scum, it would end the game rite? but reading wat u just said, its like u already no im NOT scum. if i was lynched coming up town then another NK would take place on an innocent townie as u just said.

so ur whole argument goes to shit if i was to come up scum cuz james wouldnt have been lynched, the game would have been over at that point but it seems to me that ur willing to put any townie on the chopping block. that sounds like something scum would say. r u scum jc? cuz im willing to take the lynch but r u?

ill be honest and say im not sure.

[jc]

And just so you know... I'm pushing hard for you because your scum.

You defended L1 and claimed you were just throwing out crazy ideas that may have happened. Thats defending, even if you weren't coming out ange claiming that we were wrong about L1.

James got a note stating you were scum. Just because he was the liar, doesn't mean the person that sent it to him was.

[Reaver]

u act like i was the only 1. i certainly dont have a role that helps me find the scum so if u do then it would help greatly. im not gonna sit here and argue with u like i did james cuz its worthless. u no damn well im town but u wont admit it.

i will say tho, james looked just as suspicious as he did last game and although that has no bearing on this 1, i figured lightning may have struck twice. so do u want me to admit it?

ok

I WAS WRONG ABOUT JAMES!! I WAS WRONG ABOUT L-O!!

i fucked up. but dont lynch me because i made a mistake. i was only trying to avoid a townie getting lynched. so i provided alternate possibilities cuz i tend to be open minded. is that bad?

[Arcadia]

Not have pence here is killing us. I'm starting to think there are two mafia left instead of one. After all the bullshit about JamesV/Knuckles and James turns up town and now we have to argue about lynching Knuckles? hello!?! James was town!! REGARDLESS of who killed him or who it looks bad on, that means his INFO WAS GOOD.

[Blade]

Nov 22, 2011 18:47:33 GMT -4 Arcadia said:

Not have pence here is killing us. I'm starting to think there are two mafia left instead of one. After all the bullshit about JamesV/Knuckles and James turns up town and now we have to argue about lynching Knuckles? hello!?! James was town!! REGARDLESS of who killed him or who it looks bad on, that means his INFO WAS GOOD.

I have already shown that their are 7 town roles left in the write ups

[jc]

Why do you think I know you are town?

Trust me, if I knew you were town id already have a vote on nunez. And don't get it twisted, my vote on you is based on three evidence against you. Your bad play just factors in.

[Reaver]

wat 3 evidences? only thing that may have been was the "note" that james got which even then is circumstantial. it was 2 lines long and had my name. i dont believe his note cuz i no im town. but think wat u guys want. keep this in mind tho:

i havnt voted for anybody other than james. he was the only person (for that moment) that i believed was scum and was wrong. i got nuttn to hide brotha.

[jc]

L1 yelled up and down that he was town and l look how that turned out. I dont ignore evidence. Regardless of how many lines out was. I've seen evidence consist of one word... Guilty. So two lines are more than enough.

Also, my phone changed the to three.

[jc]

I would ask you to claim, buy you did the other day.

[Reaver]

huh?

ur on this website from ur phone so did u mean "change 1-3"? and "but you did the other day"?

[Arcadia]

no it changed the word 'the' to the word 'three'

[Jesse Nuñez™]

Nov 22, 2011 18:05:22 GMT -4 jc said:

Nunez, there is already a search to replace pence since he isn't around. Its strange that you would come out and try to get attention on him for being quiet when he has not ben on thee boards. Also, it logs liked we are one vote away from a lynch. Maybe even a win, and here you are not voting for knuckles even though it is quite obvious that james was telling thee truth.

If this game doesn't end, I know who goes next. Explains why you kept on james along with knuckles and L1.

I've already said why I kept on James. I didn't believe his accusations on Knuckles and I thought James was bit a scummy at the beginning of the game so that helped me further believe he was scum. I was obviously was wrong.

I find it strange NOBODY has put ANY attention on Pence. Yes he hasn't been on the boards but is it fair to everyone else that we IGNORE the fact he can be a potential scum? We have no proof he is a townie. I think it is FAIR we decide to look at him and we need to get a replacement quickly in order to determine that.

And no, its not obvious that James was telling us the truth about Knuckles. Just because he was telling the truth about L1 doesn't mean shit when it comes to Knuckles. James has control what he says in the game based off his own evidence and opinions. Jigsaw is the one who gave James the note correct? Jigsaw told us that James is the liar after his death, correct? So in turn the only reason why James believes its Knuckles is because of Jigsaw giving him the note. Now think of this. Jigsaw gave him the note SPECIFICALLY telling us that the apprentice is KNUCKLES. However his ROLE does MATTER. It tells you what basically his actions are. He got a note and it told us its Knuckles then he shows us, now that's where his role really kicks in for us as he is the LIAR. Therefore James lied to us without even really knowing he did.

Also you can't always believe Jigsaw as evidence of how James was killed. He went through the door that said it leads to freedom. When it killed him. Everything has a reason to it and you got to see more into things. Because if his character stayed and thought about it all it did was free him from this game permanently. Not saying the actions have any effect on us personally in this game but it just shows that Jigsaw his a bit more clever than that just to give him the answer that is basically cheating in his game.

[jc]

Nunez, if pence was the only scummer left, and he has not been on the boards in days, how could he have sent the pm to the mod to kill james?

[Reaver]

not trying to peg anything on pence but he HAS been on here n there

[Jesse Nuñez™]

Nov 22, 2011 22:52:02 GMT -4 jc said:

Nunez, if pence was the only scummer left, and he has not been on the boards in days, how could he have sent the pm to the mod to kill james?

I'm answer your question with another question.

How come he cannot post on here?

[Jesse Nuñez™]

Also didn't say he was scum, just said he is a possible scum.

[jc]

This is ridiculous. We need 5 to lynch, but with no pence and bl ades inability to vote w are going to get nowhere. Going by the list, there should only be one scummer left, but there has to be a connection between nunez and knuckles.

[Arcadia]

i agree with you JC.

[Reaver]

there IS no connection. unless he is the scum that is trying to get the town to lynch a townie by killing james last nite. i realy dont think he is. then again ive been wrong this whole game so....

[Blade]

So theres no town roleblocker? because if there is they failed last night

Jeff who did you track, surely you tracked Knuckles or Nunez?

[jc]

If he was scum trying to kill a townie he would haver already voted for you, knux. Thats why we say there is a connection. Because if scum set you up for a lynch you would have been lynched already. You are scum, and somehow nunez is connected to you. Anyone seen atken? His vote could help us out here. I think it is on nunez.