SAW Mafia Game Thread

[Kurt]

*Remember guys, it's still nighttime!*

[Kurt]

SAW MAFIA
Day 5 – Night

The group stands around as the Jigsaw tape shuts off. A door opens before them.

The Gossiper: After you, “Doc.”

The Doctor, with his arm helping up The Survivor, leads the group into the next room. They go inside, and the door closes behind them! They look around the room, which is filled with 13 showers. Before them lies a man in a solid glass tank that’s empty. He sits up, and speaks, but his voice cannot be heard through the glass tank. Suddenly, a TV lights up in the corner…

Jigsaw: Greetings everyone. By now, you have learned the price of one man burdening himself for others. While you have all put yourselves before others, many of you believe that you have done with so with friends of families best interests in mind. Today, I give you the chance to risk your lives for a man many of you would consider evil. The details of his crime are not relevant, but know that he shares many of the character defects of the people in this room. Right now, he is trapped in a glass tank. In 90 seconds, enough boiling will fill the tank to boil him alive…unless you all intervene. Before you lie 13 different showers.

Jigsaw: Every fifteen seconds, the water in this man’s tank will greatly increase…unless enough of you press the buttons in front of the showers to divert the water away from him…and towards you. Know that it is possible for one man to lock himself in the boiling shower and absorb the hot water…but the result will surely end his life. I assure you, you can all make it out of this alive...but the choice is yours. So, I ask you this: Which one of you will sacrifice themselves to save this “innocent” man? Let the game begin.

The timer begins to countdown, as the group wonders what to do.

The Gossiper: This is the EXACT same dilemma as before! One of us has to die!

The Corrupt Politician: No it’s not! Listen: If we all press those buttons, we can divide up enough water so we all survive. C’mon, we can save him if we all get in one!

Yet…no one moves! They stand around, as the clock counts down.

The Recluse: But…why should we try and save someone when we can’t even save ourselves?

The Doctor: Jigsaw said we could help ourselves by trying to save this guy. We have to-

The first batch of water comes in, and sprays the man in the tank! He screams in agony, but it’s drowned out!

The Corrupt Politician: I’m going in there!

The Doctor: Me too!

The rest stand around as the two run to the showers. They get in and press the switches, which locks them inside and activates the water. The Doctor and The Corrupt Politician get doused in the hot water. The Gossiper shakes his head.

The Gossiper: Jesus Christ…here we go…

He runs in, and activates his shower. He gets doused with water as well. The smell of burnt flesh begins to consume the room, as the timer is nearly out. The rest simply watch, and after a few seconds…the time runs out!

The tank opens, and the man falls out. He’s burnt, but not terribly. The group surrounds him.

The Redneck: Shit, is he okay?

The Survivor: Someone get The Doctor! He can-

The Recluse: Uh…guys…

The group turns and faces The Corrupt Politician. He’s injured, but is standing over the dead body of The Doctor. His flesh is totally burned, having taken a great deal of the hot water.

The Corrupt Politician: He…he’s…dead…

The Corrupt Politician falls over, and The Gossiper tends to him. The remainders turn towards their new companion.

The Redneck: We saved him…so now how do we get out?

DEAD: President Jeff/The Doctor (#12) – Town Jailkeeper

*PLAYER LIST COMING IN JUST A MOMENT*

[Kurt]

*NIGHT 5 IS OFFICIALLY OVER, AND DAY 6 BEGINS NOW*

Player List:
1. Arcadia
2. Knuckles
3. Blade (originally Nathaniel Havok)
4. Captain Metro (originally Pence Weatherlight)
5. Jesse Nunez
6. JC
7. Phil Atken

Dead:
1. Kaji Fireson/The Detective (#7)- Town Cop ( Tested Night 1)
2. Johnny Rebel/The Venegeful Apprentice (#6) - Mafia Usurper/Roleblocker (Modkilled Day 3)
3. CJ Gates/The Rapist (#2) - Town Lightening Rod (Tested Night 3)
4. Lester "L1" Only/The Original Apprentice - Mafia Godfather (Tested Day 4)
5. JamesV/The Liar (#3) - Town Custom Role (Tested Night 4)
6. President Jeff/The Doctor (#12) - Town Jailkeeper (Tested Night 5)

Day 6 Ends at 7 PM EST, November 28th (72 Hours Remain)
With 7 alive, it takes 4 votes to be tested.

[Arcadia]

Dammit all to hell

Vote: Knuckles

[Blade]

I take it you are 100% on knuckles Arcadia? I mean we have had an extra night and still no sign of a roleblocker?

[Arcadia]

I mean, someone has to be the roleblocker, right? There was no lynch on Day 5 after we reached a lynch. What could do that? Maybe it is nunez after all. I am officially lost.

[Blade]

I wasn't sold on knuckles being scum, there's your answer for no test yesterday.

But please please please tell me someone got something from last night?

[Reaver]

ok so WTF just happened? i was surely lynched and somehow wasnt....

i am however eternally greatful. whoever stopped it saved 1 townie but the scum capped another. did anybody else know jeff was the doctor? that might help us figure the scum out.

[jc]

You think he didn't die because he wasn't scum... I think the corrupt politician saved him because he felt he wasn't scum, but at this point I think someone else needs to bring something to the table. Nunez could have something, but if he was blocked we prolly won't have anything.

[Reaver]

this sounds like u no something more....

[jc]

I know that James received a letter stating you were scum.

I know Jeff said he used his ability on L1, but the kill still went through. Someone mentioned L1 probably didn't do the kill that night, but it is obvious that he did because it showed in the write up that the original apprentice targeted kaji.

I know that if L1's kill went through then Jeff was more than likely blocked by Rebel.

I know that Nunez could have really helped the town if his claim is what I think it is and he is town, but he forgot to send in his night actions and hasn't really helped at all.

I know you should have been lynched last day phase but you weren't.

[Phil Atken]

Jailkeeper is like a roleblocker just so people know.

A jailkeeper will "jail" a person, protecting them for the night. At the same time however, it would block their night action.

[Phil Atken]

Which would also mean despite Nunez being useless, he could not have performed a night kill the night James died.

So

vote: knuckles

[Reaver]

This is ridiculous…..i think its been JC this whole time guys.

He and James got into an argument at the beginning of the game over nuttn. I was so sure it was James but maybe it was just u trying to keep attention off of urself by pushing the argument further and making James look worse. It was a distraction nonetheless and kept the actual gameplay from happening. James did make a good point tho, u usually hide within the game and get more active as the game progresses but this game, uve been very active since day 1 Which leads me to question ur motives.

From there, the town decided to go with a day 1 no lynch whereas u quickly voted for Atkins. “he looked suspect” to u and instead of trying to gather more info, u decided to push for the kill. This then leads to yet ANOTHER argument with another over roles. For w/e reason u mention killing 2 people in front of their child. Could this be a scum role? I dunno. But u made sure to specifically say that ur role doesn’t mean anything as to y ur in the house with the rest of us and later unvoted with no explanation. Kaji made a joke and voted for u that day 1 as well and look wat happened to him? He was NK’d in the later only to find out he was the town cop which could have been greatly useful to the rest of us. It was mentioned that Rebel could have blocked Jeff on day 1 when he “checked out” L-O. NOT LIKELY……seeing as how nobody knew anybody elses roles and Rebel would have had to have been psychic to so such a bold move, then chances are that didn’t go down as such. Also id like to point out (although im still new to the game) that ONLY the GF can place a kill to the MOD rite? So if he was “jailed” by Jeff, then how did it go thru? Wats funny about all this is how quiet JC suddenly got. All of day 1 u were “ur scum” this and “ur scum” that then MYSTERIOUSLY disappear for a lot of day 2. Then the second james mentions me bein “scum” based of his liar role ability, u IMMEDIATELY jump on the bandwagon knowing well and full that it was bs considering it wasn’t done till middle of the day. I don’t care that james said that he could do it at any time, the fact is that it gave info that somebody (other than u) was scum and u dove head first into it. Anything to keep the pressure off of u rite? This 1 note claimed its me but 3 went on saying its him. His role was the liar, regardless of him TELLING us about wat would happen doesn’t change the fact that it was meant to implicate him lying, not me as scum. U also mentioned at some point that there was a QT where scum talk. Ive never been scum but how would u no this unless u were scum?

Then we have day 3. Rebel blurts out that L-O is scum based off HIS “role” and without hesitation or explanation, ya jump on that bandwagon as well. If I was the scum JC, y did u jump so quickly? U can argue the whole nonsense about it being Rebels role all u like, but it still looks suspect as hell when the only thing u posted was a frontrunner vote. Then ya had the nerve to say that I was stalling? Y? cuz I wanted him to explain himself instead of using logic? Again ur trying to keep the focus off of u. it may have been proven that L-O was scum but my guess would be that u figured out Rebel’s role early and jumped on the side who was winning. That in itself looks scummy even to mafia scum. U can pretend all day that I didn’t want to lynch L-O but I made clear that I could care less cuz we would have gotten 2 scum either way. Yet u made it seem like I was protecting him. I wasn’t. and it certainly wasn’t sudden. This whole game I been trying to use logic to deduce who is what and because I wasn’t quick to jump on the bandwagon (like u were) I was instantly pushed as suspect after L-O.

Wat I also find interesting is that u also outed urself by giving away ur plan for the nite phase in the middle of the day.

Nov 20, 2011 19:22:31 GMT -4 jc said:

Good luck the rest of the game. Jeff and Nunez are safe for now, since they are batting for the other team right now. I'm dying tonight because I know they want me gone. They won't kill James because that would reveal he is right about Knux. Next day phase all they need is one vote in their favor to get rid of him. They'll kill Arcadia or atken that night and mislynch another townie with Jeff and nunez's help then it will be too late to stop them.
Nice job.

The very second the phase changed, u NK’d james just so that people would immediately look at me to get lynched. Just another townie down rite? After james was killed, u jumped at the chance to finish the plan. Point out the obvious in lynching me cuz james popped up as a townie just to make it easier on urself rite? Not to mention u were all excited to see me lynched only to be off on the count. Then u figured that Jeff was the tracker and tried to cover urself by capping him next as to not look suspicious.

Now I dunno wat happened as to y I wasn’t lynched but my guess is that JC figured I was a goner just to NK Jeff and keep himself from being investigated. If u look back at everything ive done, I was consistent, and logical throughout this whole game. Ive pointed out possibilities, and alternate concepts not be lynched or killed, but I did it to help the town cuz that wat we’re supposed to do rite? JC has done nuttn but point fingers and cause problems. If that isn’t suspect then I dunno what is.

Vote: JC

[Phil Atken]

unvote

For now. Gotta think about some events.

[Blade]

people were given one more night to drag some stuff up, yet no one can bring anything else to teh table?


SO we have a team of vanilla's?

I believe knuckles lynch was stopped for good reason.


Hopefully when cptn Metro chips in, he can shed some light on his role, the night because so far that role has been dud with pence not being active

[Phil Atken]

I think we're being over reliant on roles and trusting roles as is.

Obviously we're not all vanillas, we have a mystery voter and my own roles is linked to whether I vote or not.

All it means is the roles left aren't investigation roles, which to be honest with you makes sense.

[Phil Atken]

Also Blade, did you stop the knuckles lynch?

Because hinting about it and then saying it was "for good reason" is pretty weird.

All we know from Jeff right now is: Nunez could not have night killed the night

Now logically, if we're talking about people who did not vote for an L-1 lynch, that leaves us with knuckles. However, my gut says something isn't adding up right now. Trying to work it out.

[Blade]

I will not confirm or deny that.

However, I don't believe knuck's is scum. Him not dying yesterday saved a potential downfall for the town. If he was scum it would have been end game, but if he is town like i believe, then it saved us from being 2 townies further down.


Someone needs to come up with something, or all of that was worthless

[Phil Atken]

So, you saved us from a possible end game. Thanks for that.

[Phil Atken]

Also saying "you can't confirm or deny it" when previously stating you were the reason for it is straight out weird.

[Phil Atken]

vote: Captain Metro

[Reaver]

no offense but i wouldnt reply on jeffs info. if u remember correctly, he said he used his ability on L-O on nite 1 and we all found out it wasnt tru or else Kaji would still be here.

second: my opinion is that jeff lied about using his ability the whole game cuz he didnt wanna look scummy even tho nobody suspected him. chances r, he didnt use his ability on nunez either and said he did just to not look suspect which in turn, got him NK'd.

im not calling out nunez but i still feel JC is our guy. i think we all need to really band together and focus so we can finish this game for the town.

[Blade]

Nov 26, 2011 7:01:59 GMT -4 Phil Atken said:

So, you saved us from a possible end game. Thanks for that.

Or saved it.

If knuckles is town we would have lost 2 people.

You guys had an extra night to gain info, and from what I am hearing is that no one has anything to confirm anyone as scum, or clear anyone as town??

Last night people should have come together and use what they have to seal the game.

[Reaver]

ill assume people will when they wake up LOL

its 4am my time so its 6am east coast. i just happened to be up gettin rdy for work this early.

[Phil Atken]

Actually you know what, screw it.

unvote


vote: Knuckles

Sorry I was attempting to metagame Captain Metro with the mindset of "if Noble was almost allowing Havok back into the game, he must have been going from town to the scum team" and one, if that's true, this game just isn't that fun. Secondly, in my gut I just hope Pence/Metro isn't town because lurking is a no-fun scum strategy. So really, I'd just be disappointed if that all turned out to be true.

Going back over Jeff's post, we know one thing for sure:

Nunez could not have killed anyone the night Varga died. So, assuming there's only one remaining scum it can't be Nunez, he would have been jailed.

Now Blade, your actions are hella weird such as using "I can't vote" as proof you are town and deciding to save a giant question mark over the town from a lynch, so the question mark would still remain. Being hella weird however isn't an implication.

On the side of the L-1 voters, I can't see Arcadia being scum at this point, I myself am not scum, Jeff is dead and not scum. We also have a mystery voter and we have jc.

Out of the L-1 voters, if we were to be wrong about knuckles, I could plausibly seeing it being JC. JC jumped on earlier, probably assuming most people would be 1+1 on the usurper role, so I can certainly see him throwing L-1 under the bus with a quick vote to make himself look town in comparison.

Blade's arguments with L-1 seem really odd to me, with him insisting that two people have #9 and the other #9 is scum, since we now know L-1 just out and out did not have a number.

So in order of people I'd be willing to be for from strongest to least strongest:

1.) knuckles
2.) jc
3.) Captain Metro
4.) Blade

I am unlikely to vote at any point for Arcadia or Nunez however. Despite my previously suspicions of Nunez, Jeff more or less cleared him. Arcadia is pure gut.

[Reaver]

u should re-read wat i wrote about jeff than phil.....i dont think its nunez either but i feel that jeff lied about using his ability as to not look bad. wats fucked up is that i dont think anybody would have suspected him either way.

[Phil Atken]

Here's the thing blade. I do not think you saved the game in any such manner.

If there is one scum left, there are still plenty of townies and leaving knuckles to be lynched would deal with the Varga note issue once and for all. If we were wrong we could have worked from there and backtracked. It's easy to recover and we would of resolved one major issue.

If there are two scum left, the exact same thing. The only difference is we would have had to tread much more carefully today.

There was no reason to save that lynch as town other than personal whim. As scum it would makes sense to leave a giant question mark you can throw under the bus later.

Right now with your hope of night role information, I'm doubly suspicious because to me it reads like you may have put something into action as scum and are hoping someone caught it, implicating a town member.

At the end of the day, 1, I'd say you are far from confirmed town and 2, your actions have been actively harmful to the town.

And now as I type this I would plausibly slot you in above JC. Certainly above Metro.

[Phil Atken]

Why would Jeff lie, he was town. There is no reason for town to lie.

[Reaver]

cuz he didnt wanna look like scum thats y. he would of had to explain y his role wasnnt used the rest of the week when it could have helped us. incase u havnt noticed, people have been pulling triggers at each other all game.