Heroes Mafia [Day 7]

[Michael Callahan]

Awfully quiet? Yikes. Sorry for having two consecutive full days of college and being on a different time zone.

[Blade]

Feb 7, 2012 15:39:25 GMT -4 Michael Callahan said:

Awfully quiet? Yikes. Sorry for having two consecutive full days of college and being on a different time zone.

We are now in Night Phase. No talking please

[Blade]

Night Phase will end soon.

I am a little bit behind on other things...

Watch this space..

[Blade]

Night 2


Somewhere in Las Vegas, Nevada


What appears to be a strip joint it dimly lit. Inside a lady dances around a pole to the customer that has paid for her services. We see Nikki Sanders Serenading the man who his keeping his face covered with the light.

Nikki: Is there anything else I can do for you babe?

Man: You just keep on shaking that pretty little ass of yours.

Nikki moves closer to the man and knocks the light on the table to reveal Terry Marvin sat at the table smoking a cigar.

T-Marv: You have everything I need right here.

The man reaches forward and grabs Nikki by the neck as we hear it crack as he closes his hands around it.


Dead - Julius Farquar - Nikki Sanders - Town Bodyguard
Power: Suer Strength

[Blade]

Mohinder: When a change comes, some species feel the urge to migrate, they call it zugunruhe. "A pull of the soul to a far off place," following a scent in the wind, a star in the sky. The ancient message comes calling the kindred to take flight and gather together. Only then they can hope to survive the cruel season to come.

Day 3 Begins

ALIVE -

1. Michael Callahan
2. Noble
3. L-1
4. Rebel
6. CJ
7. Kris
9. Hometown Heroes
10. T-Marv
11. Jeff
12. JamesV
13. Dynamo
14. Atken
15. Biggs
16. Captain Metro
17. Matt Slater


15 alive - 8 to lynch



Deadline is at 5PM EST on Saturday 11th February 2012

[Michael Jennings]

Interesting to see TMarv so prominently mentionned in the write-up.

[Level-Two]

Um, did the write up pretty much just say T-Marv KILLED Farquhar?

It almost seems too good to be true to actually put a vote on him and call this a night. Is there ANY explanation even possible for something like this?

[Michael Callahan]

Well that throws a curveball for sure. T-Marv is in white so I guess the real debate here is, is he vigilante, third party, or scum? I'm assuming it's left that way for anonymity's sake.

I guess my biggest concern right now really is that I'm still alive. I guess this must mean I'm scum. :/

[Kurt]

So first Atkens gets mentioned by name being kidnapped, and then T-Marv gets mentioned by name apparently killing Julius...

I've never heard of an ability that (supposedly?) swipes people's names for their characters name.

[T-Marv]

LMAO!!!! Great write up! No I did not kill Julius. And no mod would ever put the name of the murderer in the writeup and basically give away the killer.

Also... Level one is Town. I visited him last night, and know know who he is.

L-1 i know who you are and I know what you can do.

3 people visited me last night... the Protector who is now dead visited me. The vote stealer also visited me, so my vote is most likely gone again. And a third person visited me and that person's identity was blocked from me. So well played my friend.

[Kid Dynamo]

Yes! Candice wilmer had that power and it's obvious she's not town and wanted us to think T-Marv killed Farq.

Thank you wikipedia.

[Kid Dynamo]

Also, Candice worked for the company, who is most likely red label scum so for now, we still have nothing concrete on the quantity of the third party.

I think it's safe to call TMarv town. And I say TMarv should vote just to collect data on where it goes.

Oh and welcome back Phil!

So let's get some analysis on why Farq was chosen. Also, are we still calling "inactive godfather" or are we slipping to other theories (like maybe there's no third party even though it makes more sense for one to be here)?

My 2 cents is that Farq was the most logical voice and he hadn't picked anyone. In other words, he was the most valuable townie who wouldn't activate red flags after going down.

This tells me that the scum is at least led by strong player(s), and that doesn't mean godfather per se, but if an MVP is directing traffic on a QT then he doesn't need special power beyond that.

[Kurt]

I believe you about Candice Kid, and it was a good find. What I'm interested in is if Julius's killer was an illusion (making Tmarv's name show up), why did Atkens name show up as being kidnapped night 1? I mean, he didn't post the full day, so it obviously happened.

My guess is that the Mafia Godfather went after Tmarv, but Julius used his bodyguard ability and took the fall instead(since someone unknown visited Tmarv). This theory does weaken the inactive Godfather theory, because we haven't seen any modkills and something about this whole night looks like a set-up. It would be mod discretion if that counts as someone visiting Tmarv.

Tmarv, could you place a vote to see who it's on?

Assuming your theory is correct Kid, that gives us that one lightning girl (Ellie? Haven't seen the second season, sorry), Candice, and maybe Sylar as Mafia. Can't confirm the last one because we didn't see a color to the name on night 1.

More thoughts later. Gotta write my APW match.

[Kid Dynamo]

Can I just say town protector is the worst role ever!! How does a bodyguard activate his power, and why would Farq let Knuckles die? What could he have known that made him choose to kill himself to protect someone?

I only ask because two days in and we've only been proven sure enough about any scum
To barely scrape half the votes. The closest thing we have had to sure was still far from a sure thing.

That said, when we went to sleep, it was Metro v Callahan, with 4 people siding with MC and Noble siding with CM. How does this change the voting block, and, if it doesn't (which is currently where I'm at), is this 3 days of choosing one or the other?

[T-Marv]

Vote: Metro

Test vote.

[Level-Two]

Well, I'm glad the T-Marv situation is starting to make much more sense now seeing as I personally pegged him as a 100% townie. As I said it just seemed ''too easy'' and spent time trying to read through the heroes wiki to see if anyone could shape shift... but Dynamo seems to have figured out the role.

+ 1 to you sir!

Can I just say town protector is the worst role ever!! How does a bodyguard activate his power, and why would Farq let Knuckles die? What could he have known that made him choose to kill himself to protect someone?

It is my believe that the way Farquhar's role worked was that if he could successfully prevent T-Marv's (or anyone else) from dying that not only would Farquhar survive but he'd also know the killers name in return (this is out of the guide). However he would have only had a 50% chance of doing so... most likely, he got a bad roll and that's why we are where we are today.

Furthermore...

My question is why would the mafia try to KILL T-Marv AND set him up at the same time for the kill that was initially on him?

To answer my own question... T-Marv noted that he was protected night one (by farquhar we now know) and it's likely the mafia knew this when they tried to kill him. By using BOTH powers on him they were trying to ensure he either dies or is/was framed...

The only problem with this is they would have had to know that Farquhar was a bodyguard and not a doctor or the kill would have been stopped entirely.

Lastly and MOST IMPORTANTLY!

Another possibility I just thought up as I write this... is that for game balance reasons ''Sylar'' does not steal powers of those he kills... Sylar is most likely a JACK OF ALL TRADES!

Think about it...

Phil Atken's kidnapped night one... why was nobody kidnapped day two?

Why instead was an ''illusion'' set on T-Marv?

Both actions used their ''real names'' rather then character names... they're connected.

[Kid Dynamo]

I had no clue what that was, so I looked it up on mafiaWiki. The thing that stuck out was that a mod won't waste a JOAT on a weak/ineffective player.

This is random, I know, and I'm not voting yet, but I'd like to throw the idea that CJ is Sylar up and get the general opinion.

But mainly I think we all miss him and just want to hear his voice.

[Level-Two]

I had no clue what that was, so I looked it up on mafiaWiki. The thing that stuck out was that a mod won't waste a JOAT on a weak/ineffective player.

I don't know about that. Blade assigns the roles at random before the game even starts so this is a non-factor. I'm 99.9% Sylar is a Jack of all trades one way or the other.

[Hometown Heroes]

Candice Willmer does have the power of Illusion but in my eyes she doesn’t have the strength to be killing Niki. Niki would kick her ass in a minute. It had to be someone else she is working with. She worked along with Sylar on the show before he killed her. So it could have been Slyar the person that killed Niki not Candice.

Just me.

So now who is the team working together. Who do your guys feel like working as team in the game so far? Like backing each other up.

[Level-Two]

Candice Willmer does have the power of Illusion but in my eyes she doesn’t have the strength to be killing Niki. Niki would kick her ass in a minute.

lolwut?

That has literally nothing to do with the actual game and write up.

[Michael Jennings]

Kris is clear. I think it's safe to confirm him as town judging by my night results.

TMarv CLEARLY isn't scum. I think there's a framer. I also think TMarv was the target for the hit and Farquhar took the fall. Unless Metro can be cleared I'm still considering him to be the top suspect on my list with Noble being number two. Nothing has changed in my mind unless someone can clear one or both of them.

[Kris]

Feb 8, 2012 23:27:10 GMT -4 Michael Jennings said:

Kris is clear. I think it's safe to confirm him as town judging by my night results.

Him?

If you mean me, I'm a she. <.<

But that aside... I'm torn on whether Sylar really is a jack-of-all trades or not. Candice would be able to make it seem like he does, but I think it's still too early to say that he is for sure. I'm sticking to my theory of him being an unaligned serial killer for the time being since, again, that's what the flavor would suggest... and flavor's played a rather heavy role in-game, more so than I have observed to be the norm.

What I will do, though, is give credit where its due. Dynamo, that was a good find... and also point out that CJ has indeed been having some pretty gnarly IRL problems. Hospitals and such are no picnic, that's for sure.

[C.J. Gates]

Feb 7, 2012 15:25:04 GMT -4 Level-Two said:

Also look out for CJ Gates who is either paying very little attention to the game or putting a dopey/clueless act on for game play reasons.

I'm paying attention as best I can. My girlfriends step father has been in the hospital so I have been trying to help her and her family out while he's in there. I've been following as best I can via phone.

With that said and with time to post...

The write up is too obvious for Marvin to be scum. The fact that the players name is named is just too obvious so I think it's safe to say that Marvin didn't kill Farq.

@lester - The way I understand kidnapping is that they are kidnapped at night and can't post that day phase. Atken was around day 1, and got kidnapped night 1 so he was unable to post day 2. If someone was kidnapped night 2, is it possible that it didn't make the write up but still happened?

[Kid Dynamo]

Sorry to hear about your situation, but you'll have to understand that since I've been overplaying the game on my phone, you aren't completely in the clear. Tell him to get well soon so you can come back and detail how full of it I am

We can't assume something happened and just didn't get written up.

Since Metro is still my #1 suspect, and he was pretty clearly hiding (either by choice or from qt prodding by someone smart enough to realize he had slipped up) so he may have just forgot to kidnap or thought it would remove heat from himself if he didn't.

Speaking of, where the hell is Atken? jamesV hasn't lot anyone on fire yet and that bothers me.

Oh, and for future reference, Kris with a K almost always means she.

[Kurt]

Got a long post before I head to bed.

It is possible CJ. For all we know, Atkens hasn't even been freed yet. If him being kidnapped was significant enough to make it into the write-ups, it seems like him being free would also be a significant write-up scene. He's been on since and hasn't posted (you'd think he'd be thrilled to do so), but maybe he just hasn't gotten around to it.

L1, the only reason I don't think your theory is correct is because the Night 1 Kill, which looked like a Sylar kill. I don't think a JOAT would have the ability to kill. Maybe another Mafia character that we're not seeing is the JOAT. In all actuality, we've seen one red character, so the possibility is definitely open.

I will say this though: I think Sylar is the Godfather. Both Night 1 and Night 2 kills were done in a somewhat ambiguous fashion with a hidden name. If Sylar was a third party killer with alternating kills against the Godfather (every other night), it seems like we would have seen a distinction between the two nights. Tmarv was obviously framed, which did change Night 2 slightly, but something about the fashion of it just seems so similar to Night 1. I agree with Kris that it defies the flavor somewhat, but to me, nothing suggests the two are separate so far.

And hey...if that lighning chick and Candice are scum, Night 1's killer was specifically a man. It's not a sure-proof connection, but it seems to me that if Sylar was operating outside the Mafia, we would have seen more kills or something to signify they were different. We've seen neither.

I can't really offer much as far as night info goes because my night ability really only helps me at the possible expense of others. It's not investigative by any means.

One final note: The linking of Night 1's and Night 2's kills makes me that the inactive Godfather theory is debunked. I'll admit, I still have some slight suspicion of Callahan because of his attitude upon entering the game, but as far as being the Godfather? I don't think so anymore. If my theory is right, the Godfather for Night 1 was definitely active, and Bacon at the time definitely wasn't.

[Kid Dynamo]

If were going illusionist it could still be a man. In the show she's an obese woman who stays thin as an illusion. Such a person can probably look like a man too.

My concern is that if there's a third party, be it Sylar or cult or whatever, why is there still only 1 night kill?

[Kris]

Feb 9, 2012 0:18:01 GMT -4 Kid Dynamo said:

Oh, and for future reference, Kris with a K almost always means she.

Not necessarily. Kristoff comes to mind, which is why I asked for clarification.

[Phil Atken]

I'm here but I'm working on my Overdrive match, writing my final exams for my classes (they're due into today) and I have to attend a work function tonight.

I'll be active tomorrow.

[Level-Two]

L1, the only reason I don't think your theory is correct is because the Night 1 Kill, which looked like a Sylar kill. I don't think a JOAT would have the ability to kill. Maybe another Mafia character that we're not seeing is the JOAT. In all actuality, we've seen one red character, so the possibility is definitely open.

I don't think Sylar is the godfather. If Sylar is the godfather that means his only ability is to night kill and considering all the possibilities with a character like Sylar I doubt Blade would take a cop out.

However, if Sylar isn't the JOAT then Peter Petrelli could be... the only problem is I don't know if he's a bad guy, good guy or has ever been any of the two on the show or not.

However the most reasonable explanation at this point is that there IS a JOAT.

Nobody was kidnapped today, it doesn't make sense to have it in the write up one time and not another.

Illusion needs to be a one time role... if it's used to frame someone it could only even work once because no one would fall for it after the first time.

= Jack of trades.

As for main suspects...

Metro, Noble, J-Reb still top my list but I'm going to...

Vote: Metro

The scum team is led by an experienced player and given it's day three and still no bombshells; Metro's sketchiness and waiting out the deadline last day phase is enough for me to vote his way. I don't think he was worried about being lynched last day phase because I believe his mafia brethren were some of those who did not vote last day phase as well as a mixture of townies voting for Callahan.

A Metro lynch should give us some answers one way or another; he hasn't really brought anything to the game that would bring us scum beside the entire lynch bacon argument hatched from day one.

[Michael Jennings]

Vote: Metro

As you all well know Metro is who is at the top of my list so I'm with Level One on this one. For any reasoning on this just look back through my posts and you'll find at least five reasons (probably more) as to why I think he's scum. NOTHING I have seen has changed my opinion on him.