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Post by Blade on Mar 10, 2012 19:03:55 GMT -4
first and foremost THANK YOU BLADE!! u didnt ignore me like L-O lol. secondly, theres a reason for my madness. there hasnt been any nite kills cuz the GF has been getting blocked by a certain donkey puncher. as long as they can get some help, im sure they can keep his nite kills from going off. plz understand. The GF doesn't necessarily do the night kills. And depending on Kaji's answer, then I MAY be able to shed some light and give us scum/3rd party
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Post by Kaji Fireson on Mar 10, 2012 19:10:21 GMT -4
Kaji, what night did you investigate Callhan? 1 or 2? 2.
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Post by Level-Two on Mar 10, 2012 19:14:11 GMT -4
My post came four minutes after yours. Speaking of ignoring... you didn't seem to read my arsonist post either.
As Blade says, the godfather doesn't automatically do the night kills. JamesV was doused with lighter fluid and will die once ignited as I explained in my post. People ARE being night killed; it just hasn't been executed yet.
If you know who the GF is; in most games I'd say keep him alive and continue to role block him but in this game, I think the leader or killer is an arsonist who is a ticking time bomb--so whatever your roleblocking probably isn't helping us as much as you think it is.
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Post by Blade on Mar 10, 2012 19:18:53 GMT -4
Damn. Nevermind. Just to note though, and I hope this doesn't get pulled up by Noble, there has been a bit of role hinting going on. However. Knuckles, If you have targeted the same person both nights running, I think i know who it is, but your night 1 action would not have been successful on him. Won't say any more, but if I am on the same lines as you then I know who you are going at. The reason I bring this up is because I investigated Callahan, because...well, he's the primary suspect in this whole thing still. I got an inconclusive read. kaji, I have my suspicions of you, but it is purely gut. Don't take that the wrong way. However, an inconclusive read would usually mean 3rd party, so in this case I will vote: CallahanLike i say though, I have my eye on you
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Post by Johnny Rebel on Mar 10, 2012 19:22:21 GMT -4
Callahan cannot be investigated...
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Post by Kaji Fireson on Mar 10, 2012 19:24:40 GMT -4
I'm okay with you having your eye on me, because I know I have been pushing a Callahan lynch pretty hard, perhaps unreasonably so. But with no other leads, except maybe Bailey's day one play, and knowing we need to get lynching before we all go up in smoke, literally, I don't know what else to pursue.
Vote: Callahan
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Post by Blade on Mar 10, 2012 19:29:42 GMT -4
Callahan cannot be investigated... Night 1 or 2 info?
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Post by Kaji Fireson on Mar 10, 2012 19:32:22 GMT -4
EBWOP:
It would sure seem that way J-Reb...but if that's part of Callahan's role...why would he waste a night investigating himself? So either he didn't know part of his role...or he knew and wasted a turn on himself in case someone was watching him so they would confirm that he investigated himself....or he's lying. Two of those three make me want to vote for him, and the other one seems to be a bastard role, and Kurt doesn't seem like a bastard mod to me.
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Post by Reaver on Mar 10, 2012 19:36:47 GMT -4
Vote: Callahan
hey blade, kaji said 2 in an earlier post and not to mention that it WAS successful both nites on the same person
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Post by Kaji Fireson on Mar 10, 2012 19:40:05 GMT -4
Knuckles, Blade is asking a new question now. Blade already saw my response and processed it.
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Post by Reaver on Mar 10, 2012 19:40:14 GMT -4
ebwop...
i dont think i realize the arsonist L-O so im not ignoring u although ur post DOES seem a lil defensive to me. not saying anything by it.
@rebel: wat do u mean he cant be investigated and how would u no that?
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Post by Blade on Mar 10, 2012 19:41:23 GMT -4
Vote: Callahanhey blade, kaji said 2 in an earlier post and not to mention that it WAS successful both nites on the same person I'm asking Rebel. All this and people are investigating Callahan night 2. Why did no one do anything to him on night 1?
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Post by Michael Jennings on Mar 10, 2012 19:42:34 GMT -4
I want to hear about this "unable to be investigated" business as it relates to Callahan before doing anything else.
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Post by Blade on Mar 10, 2012 19:43:28 GMT -4
Vote: Callahanhey blade, kaji said 2 in an earlier post and not to mention that it WAS successful both nites on the same person If it's the person i am thinking of, then no it wasn't Someone has already come out and claimed in todays phase that they were RB'ed. So unless we have 2 roleblockers. However, if that same person who is claiming they were Roleblocked is the same person you roleblocked, then I know for a *Fact* you didnt RB him on night 1
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Post by Kaji Fireson on Mar 10, 2012 19:46:18 GMT -4
I'm asking Rebel. All this and people are investigating Callahan night 2. Why did no one do anything to him on night 1? Everyone was probably checking sanity night one. As I touched on after Callahan roleclaimed on the evening of day one, if the game is all about a shitload of cops, there's no way all the investigative roles are of equal sanity/competence. So everyone probably spent night one checking their sanity.
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Post by Reaver on Mar 10, 2012 19:49:15 GMT -4
then y was i successful and received confirmation that it worked if im wrong?
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Post by Blade on Mar 10, 2012 19:54:27 GMT -4
then y was i successful and received confirmation that it worked if im wrong? Because you were probably sucessful in your action, just not on the intended target. Fuck it. Did you target Jeff on night 1? If so, you were successful in your action, but you did not target Jeff.
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Post by Reaver on Mar 10, 2012 19:55:19 GMT -4
i did and was
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Post by President Jeff on Mar 10, 2012 19:56:56 GMT -4
I dunno if anyone used their role against me one night 1, but my role was successful
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Post by Blade on Mar 10, 2012 19:58:31 GMT -4
Knuckles. TRUST ME. You were successful, but it was not Jeff who you successfully roleblocked. Honestly, not trying to unease you, but what I say is fact. When a few more things have been answered I will become more clear
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Post by Reaver on Mar 10, 2012 19:59:33 GMT -4
ill stfu then
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Post by Jules on Mar 10, 2012 20:32:46 GMT -4
I can confirm I was doused on night 1, so this arsonist business is more than probable.
I would have mentioned it day 1, but Bacon got himself killed before I had finished looking it up on the epic Mafia.
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Post by SalTal on Mar 10, 2012 20:43:58 GMT -4
Ok, before Callahan is lynched, can I float this out to everyone as just an idea. You more experienced people will know whether it's a good move or not.
You're having trouble investigating Callahan? Then investigate me this next night phase. Don't lynch Callahan before you do that.
In a sense, I can see a benefit of this arsonist stuff. If they want to ignite this night phase, then no one else will get doused. If they douse, we get another day with (nearly) full Town. Yes, it's coming down the line (a massive kill) but we can at least manipulate it for what it's worth.
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Post by Reaver on Mar 10, 2012 20:44:57 GMT -4
for there to be an arsonist means theres a 3rd party am i rite?
which means that the mafia still didnt get the NK out. i say this cuz of the nite phase in which "a woman" prevented a kill on phelps who was revealed to be bacon. ironically he didnt need the help but the info did help the rest of us. it sux bacon isnt here but his info is still of value at least to me.
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Post by Michael Jennings on Mar 10, 2012 20:57:11 GMT -4
Ok, before Callahan is lynched, can I float this out to everyone as just an idea. You more experienced people will know whether it's a good move or not. You're having trouble investigating Callahan? Then investigate me this next night phase. Don't lynch Callahan before you do that. Are you suggesting he's a Nexus?
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Post by Reaver on Mar 10, 2012 21:01:38 GMT -4
Ok, before Callahan is lynched, can I float this out to everyone as just an idea. You more experienced people will know whether it's a good move or not. You're having trouble investigating Callahan? Then investigate me this next night phase. Don't lynch Callahan before you do that. Are you suggesting he's a Nexus? wouldnt that entail getting info from a random person instead of the target? IE: if i investigated callahan (if the nexus) then id get info back on bailey instead....
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Post by SalTal on Mar 10, 2012 21:06:33 GMT -4
I'm suggesting that whatever my alignment is tonight will give us great insight into Callahan's alignment.
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Post by Blade on Mar 10, 2012 21:32:19 GMT -4
How does investigating you show us callahan's alignment?
Callahan can't be the arsonist, but is not ruled out as scum. And he isn't a nexus, that I am sure
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Post by Reaver on Mar 10, 2012 21:35:38 GMT -4
i dont wanna sound like an ass but wats atken been up 2? he hasnt been around for a while
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Post by SalTal on Mar 10, 2012 21:35:39 GMT -4
I never know how close I'm coming to role-claiming when it comes to revealing information.
I know that when I use one of my night actions on someone, that their alignment will 'rub off' (in a sense) onto me until I use the night action on someone else.
I last used it on Callahan in the effort to do precisely this, though Bacon's impromptu death didn't give me much of a chance to explain this idea before the night phase.
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