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Post by stj on Jun 6, 2008 5:20:03 GMT -4
From Sabur's last roleplay Tara doesn't step forward, she doesn't walk out and bring the first words.... no she sits in the back waiting for someone to come out with originality, then she sits there like a teacher picking apart someones promo with a red pen like someone getting graded on an essay. Spirit has nothing, and brings nothing to the table.
Sabur listen up, I'm going to make a point right here because stepping out of character is what the OOC board is for, not the roleplay board. Now I know people are going to say that I should do this in PM, but this started on the roleplay board. And considering his match is about Hardcore Kid and Jason Royce, spending half of his post ranting about the way I have been doing things was uncalled for.
I'd like to see anyone get roleplays in straight off the bat when they have two essays due in the same day.
I'd like to see anyone get roleplays in straight off the bat when they're spending eleven hour days in the drama studio trying to get the play they're being graded on right.
I'd like to see anyone get roleplays in straight off the bat when that same play sucks up the days they're not in lecture again because that needs about ninety percent of their focus.
I decided to come here while I was still at uni, Diana wanted me here and Jeff could have done with the talent. It also allowed the whole CoK thing to start. I decided to do this alongside my final semester at university. That means that yes, I was always going to leave roleplays till I needed to get them in. I didn't plan them throughout the week and do bits and pieces, I spent two hours or so when they needed to be done.
This is a hobby and it is something I love to do, but I decided to put my education and, looking further ahead, my life first. If you don't like that, then that's a little tough, my friend.
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Post by Dr. Matt on Jun 6, 2008 8:41:21 GMT -4
Okay, I haven't read Sabur's whole RP, or any RPs for a matter of time, but I see nothing wrong with the one excerpt that you've posted from his RP.
Yes, it might be an OOC gripe, but he's presented it in a way that makes it relevant to the characters. To be honest with you, this is pretty much the style I used to RP in. It's all apart of trash-talking, and I personally see nothing wrong with it. Although, I do admit I have zero pull around here, and considering how I haven't been keeping up (for which I do apologize), that sorta stuff just may not fly around here anymore.
Also, I understand your position about trying to balance school and RPing, but everybody's got real lives outside of e-fedding. Again, I probably should've looked into this more, but if you have been the second RPer in your last couple matches, and Sabur saw this, I think it's a valid point to bring up. Whether or not your doing it on purpose isn't the issue, it's just that it has happened and it's something he decided to talk about.
But, then again, maybe I'm missing a bigger picture here, but this seems all a tad bit of an over-reaction to me.
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THERE IS A GOD
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Post by THERE IS A GOD on Jun 6, 2008 10:23:33 GMT -4
Actually this post in particular I'm glad I get to respond to.
I think that this is a website, and a roleplaying game. I think that we all do this when we have time to do this... I think that other than John Green, we are all adults (jk Green) and can act like it!
I think that waiting until the last moment to post, giving you ample time to tear apart your opponents rps is tactical. However the downside to everyone doing that on the last day is you get delays from too many people being on the site.
I think that STJ is a Champion, and will be bad mouthed constantly by any contender that wants that title, and thats just the way things are...
I think that Sabur just lost a match to STJ, and The tag titles to 'That Team', and is trying to work out those promos against you before they count for gold again... Or he's just frustrated and needs to work out the aggression, which is fair.
I think that STJ and Spirit are both excellent rpers with very opposite styles, and that is why this small problem occured...
I think that i said my piece. Hope that it helped somebody...
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Post by The Paragon of Hardcore on Jun 6, 2008 20:04:52 GMT -4
I did read Sabur's roleplay and like Kenny and Dr. Matt... I have to say that I see nothing wrong with what he said. It wasn't out of character. It was phrased well enough to make it in character and relevant. That being said, Spirit is acting a bit touchy and needs to calm down a bit. Believe me... I more then understand the pressures of dealing with drama (no pun intended) in real life and still trying to balance playing this game as well.
I admit I haven't been doing that very well lately but that's honestly because I've been incredibly overwhelmed in my personal life. Again... calm down a bit, Spirit. I honestly don't believe Sabur was out of line at all.
Kenny's right... get used to that HUGE target the Tag Titles have painted on your back...
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Post by Your JESUS on Jun 6, 2008 20:20:12 GMT -4
First off the way it was written and the way it was to come across was in character. Sabur called out Spirit on her promo, the word RP never came up, and if you recall most of your promo's come after the fact that you state in your RP that you watched Sabur's promo on TV, or such and such's promo, now if that translates into something out of character, I have the feeling that it's YOUR problem. Your the one that is sensitive, and when people don't RP like you, or mention something that ruffles you feathers, you come out here in front of everyone and try to put people on blast. I'm possitive we all here have ego's and I'm sorry that your ego is so fragile, guess when you think you are the shit it can really fuck with you when someone talks shit. If I upset you, deal with it on the RP board, in other words dry it up, and quit your crying, it wasn't made as an OOC coment. Now heres an OOC coment, that my friend is picking peoples shit apart searching for something that may not fit the rules, or your outline of a RP.
Second I don't give a shit when you post a RP, and really don't care how frantic your life is, and how much you have on your plate, cause at the end of the day, you are not the only person on this green earth that has a load of shit to do, or is pulled from one direction to the other, bassically we all have drama, we all have issues, we all are dealing with shit, and when you said this was a hobby, you were totally right, so maybe you should treat it like one, and not get all worked up and emotinal about it. It's a game, a place to get away from the real world, and if I walked around like a sexist, ass clown chassing a midget all day in my real life, I'm sure I wouldn't even be able to afford an internet connection, yet the way you act CHAMP, if Jeff had a belt made, I'm sure you d wear it to class. So with that being said I am not Sabur, and you are not Tara, and the coments in the RP were all written in character, and in the aspect of wrestling. A wrestler can be upset with his preformance, and the fact that a particular wrestler seems to get the better of the other constantly.The character Sabur is in a funk of loosing and frustration about not winning or becoming a champion,and his choices, but thats the character, me I'm couldn't be happier with the way things are going here. I have a flag up watching the wind blow, as it shifts I change direction with the charcter, and don't fucking complain about it. You though my friend act as if you really are the women coming out to the ring, everything that is said in character, it cuts you deep, well how about you lighten a bit, you act like you are the greatest, and well you one half of the tag team champions, not to much to be upset with, yet your crying and carrying on. This whole thing, writting style, RP style, and wrestling perception is all difrent from one person to the next, which is why it makes it all great, fun and enjoyable, untill someone comes out here posting up like they have been personally attacked when in fact, they the handler were not, yet character on character was the case. Now if someone in character told me I was on the dick of managment, I would laugh at the statement, not get offended by it, unless their is some guilt (JK) but now we all have different sense of humors...Some like clevor hidden mind twisting bits of comedy, while others go for the shocking outrageous, and offensive, all different. Maybe you should laugh things off a little more, then possibly your life won't feel so Kaotik, and you possibly wouldn't feel the need to relieve stress on the boards in anger towards others. Hell when Kenny came through and basically tore apsrt my character, hell he's the reason there is a man cow, and pretty much made me look silly on a number of occasions, I just chuckled, and thought this fucking guy.....I like this fucking guy, so go easy Tara, or Chris, or whoever may get offended. THK and ICEMAN get fucking slammed continously, yet they don't turn it into a personal offense toward them.
Lastly the character Sabur right now is offeded by the character Tara, jealous some say, but in character he's obsessed with winning and can't stand Tara, or the fact that she's contantly gotten over on him, if thats a problem with you, how about you let me know, cause then I'll drop the whole deal. I saw something and ran with it, but since it obviously is going to affect you in and out of character just say the word and then it's done.
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Post by Phate on Jun 6, 2008 20:25:59 GMT -4
This is becoming hostile....maybe Jeff should come in and put the kibosh on this topic before it becomes an unnecessary back-and-forth situation.
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Post by President Jeff on Jun 6, 2008 20:58:24 GMT -4
Like Kenny, Matt and Trevor said, there wasn't anything wrong with the RP or the comments made in the RP. It was borderline OOCish, but it didn't cross the line and what Sabur said it was fair.
Now not sure why it brothered you so much Chris. I know your busy with stuff, maybe your stressed out, i don't know. Your not fighting Sabur this week so anything he said about Spirit is pretty much Sabur saying that he's not done with you yet.
Anything concirns like this, can be PMed to me for me to look into. Because doing publicly with it, 2 things are gonna happen.
1. Everyone is gonna agree on one thing
and 2. An arguement will most likely come out of it.
I don't mind if you guys discuess "What's considered OOC in an RP and what's not" but if your upset about what someone said in an RP that may be OOC, contact me or the person who wrote the RP. As far as I see it, Sabur didn't say anything wrong.
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Post by stj on Jun 6, 2008 21:39:15 GMT -4
Ok, I was a little touchy and I took that the wrong way. Being honest, I did take it as a dig and I know that I have roleplayed last a few times which probably caused me to be a little more defensive than I needed to be. The one thing that I would stress in that regard is that when I post isn't tactical, I don't even think of the roleplay that I'm writing or responding to when I'm writing an essay or when I'm in rehearsal, not that I have anything of either to work through now. And being honest, the time that I did have to myself, and I did have a few hours spare from time to time, I'd spent enough time being another character or in the frame of mind that I needed to be in for an essay that I didn't want to be 'STJ', I wanted to be Chris and spend one night a week in the pool comp, or bitch to someone about how tough rehearsal was or how mean such and such a lecturer is for the questions she set. The last few weeks have been more a case of shit, deadline is today, I need to drop this uni stuff for a few hours and get into the frame of mind I get into for a roleplay. I'm sorry if I have offended, I was a touch out of place, but that was how it seemed to me at the time and I should perhaps have come back and read it later rather than reacting off the gun. I would certainly think that I can stop getting the last dayers in as well so that helps both how I feel about it and anything that I might see in others, because I know that it can look tactical and that just isn't me. As for wearing the belt to class...you want to ask how many people I've said this shit don't go on my CV to, I'm here for the writing Hopefully with a little less on my plate, it can get back so that I don't only think that but that bit comes across as well.
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