MISFITS GAME THREAD [NOW PLAYING, DAY 5]

[Smash INC]

Quoting from CJ's last post:

-Saint claimed lie detector, and it was his intel that flipped the lynch from Knuckles to Blade (which ended up on Gubayama). He strengthened it the next day and it led to Blade's lynch. He said he would use it on me, and conveniently couldn't find me.

I didn't have any intel of my own on that day, I was using Kurt's and my interpretation of the night results to push for it.

That leads me into another point, I think we actually have three targets today:

The cult recruiter, assuming that getting them would undo the culting but would be a great boon regardless.
Brian, who I am solid on being unrelated to the cult but would all but hand them the game instead.
The cult double-voter, if we can ascertain who this is we can chip away at their voting power.

[C.J. Gates]

Was the "TRUE" result from Night 2 (used on Day 3) then? I guess I got that confused, thought you had some solid info on day 2. Still, the TRUE led us closer to the Blade lynch.

[Smash INC]

Kurt got his result the day before I got mine.

The reason I checked Blade in the first place was because of Kurt's info, I confirmed that Blade was bitten but not necessarily who bit him. However I am solidly behind the information that Kurt put out because Knuckles was defending Blade to such an extent that there has to be something going on there.

The important thing here is that this gives us a solid enough base to assume that Knuckles/Kurt are not the cult recruiter. Recruited is a possible but we want the head.

Personally I think it's someone on the outskirts of our discussions, that leads me to Royce or Marv over anyone else. We've all pretty much got some evidence that proves we're not the cult recruiter or the serial killer, but to my knowledge those two don't have a solid base.

[C.J. Gates]

Apr 21, 2012 10:57:11 GMT -4 Kurt said:

I don't know that I'm understanding your ability, or its usage. I appreciate the effort to clear me...I just wish I understood how exactly it did.

To sum this up, whoever I use my ability on has their own ability reversed back on themselves. That's why I said that you basically checked yourself, Kurt, because your night action was reversed and used on yourself.

I wasn't successful against Marvin, but the only known roleblocker didn't roleblock me that night. If Jeff doesn't have a role, that's why nothing really happened night one when I was successful.

[Kurt]

According to the time stamp, this day is over in less than 24 hours.

So what's the plan here exactly? Posting seems to be down across the board for everyone. I get that everyone's fatigued after the whole biting fiasco, but we're not really any closer to a plan than when we started today. It seems like the two names that have floated around a lot today are CJ and T-marv, judging from FOS's and general name-dropping. CJ's put up a credible defense to me, but Marvin seems MIA (where are Rebel and Royce by the way?). Ending today in a no-lynch will probably force the game into an end.

So what are we doing guys?

[Reaver]

i agree, sitting back and ending in a no lynch hurts us that much more. wats the deal royce and marv? i also wanna point out how lil royce has done since the beginning. anybody have any info worth while?

[C.J. Gates]

Royce has done very little, and I chalked that up to inexperience. He's really just come in and voted, though nothing that raised a flag with me.

What am I doing?

I couldn't say. We've had ONE bit of information this entire game, and that was the biting thing (well that and Sally clearing Farq). Saint and Marvin are the two I'm looking at, but then Rebel hasn't done much then stir the pot which is always a bad sign when it's Rebel.

At this point though, I think we all just need to pick someone and stick to that lynch. We have no information to direct us to the SK or the recruiter. So in the effort of getting the ball rolling...

Vote: Saint

I'm not really buying the lie detector story, and I'm not buying that you couldn't find me last night. I'm also wary of how you got things to change from a bandwagon on Knuckles to a bandwagon on Blade on Day 2. If we're still going with the idea that Knuckles is a biter and Shannon who got recruited night 1, perhaps Saint was trying to help get the heat off of his cult buddy and onto someone they knew was town.

[Kris]

That's a credible theory to me, CJ, and one that I'm having a hard time disputing. I wanted to give Saint the benefit of the doubt, but things just aren't adding up. Blade being town really put a hole in his credibility, as has the way that he's gone on. Add onto that how we need to get something in gear and... I can't afford to play conservatively anymore, not the way that I have been.

Vote: Keaton Saint

Now why am I not voting for Kurt instead when he originally brought the information to the table? Because he backed off when too many holes appeared in the case to lynch Blade, just like how I didn't vote for it for the same reasons. Keaton and Marv were the driving forces here, and out of the two? I think Saint's a safer bet for cutting the head off of the cult since his 'role', if it exists, has been the longer-running thing.

[Smash INC]

I'm not really buying the lie detector story.

You don't have to, it's the role i was given.

I'm not buying that you couldn't find me last night.

That's the result I got back, not much I can say beyond that. I'm confused by it as well personally but I chalked it up to you being a character who would have that sort of power, which would notably leave you as a definite town who hasn't been recruited.

I'm also wary of how you got things to change from a bandwagon on Knuckles to a bandwagon on Blade on Day 2.

I'll admit that I was pushing for a Blade lynch and I would do it again if I was in that same position. When there is the possibility that someone is the cult recruiter and you have the chance to take them out early, you have to take it. Problem is we all got caught up on Gub's play and when he got lynched we never learnt anything until after Blade's lynch which put us in this position.

If we're still going with the idea that Knuckles is a biter and Shannon who got recruited night 1, perhaps Saint was trying to help get the heat off of his cult buddy and onto someone they knew was town.

Going from that basis, that means you have to accept Kurt's report as legitimate which still doesn't account for why Blade was bitten and why it showed up as a failed bite on the cult recruiter. Yes, I led a bad lynch on Blade but it was based on what I fully believed was good information (and even by your own admission here, some of it was).

Someone or something screwed us over proper here and lynching me would provide a load of answers... Because the game would be over and the cult/SK will have won.

Do you honestly think I'd put myself on the line THAT much in order to get one lynch through if I were anti-town in any way?

If you answer yes to that, I've got nothing more to say since I'm sure you're town and if your vote is on me that means we have no chance of lynching the scum.

Go and look at the thread again, I'm going to do the same and I will settle on something that will actually provide answers via the lynch of a scum, not a town member like me.

[Smash INC]

To be honest there's not much I can say except that when the anti-town party gets a whiff of this lynch I'm already gone.

With that being the case...

Vote: T-Marv

He's been effortless in being a part of the lynches and saying just enough to merit his reasoning on them. He posts an FOS on me today because it's not an outright push but it is enough to force the spotlight onto me, bearing in mind it would already be there because I confirmed Kurt's information and led the lynch on Blade.

I accept leading that lynch and I would completely do it again on anyone given the information I had and what I believed. There's not much else to say except that the anti-town parties deserve a medal for how easily they've messed us over.

How many games have there been where not a single anti-town was lynched anyhow?

[T-Marv]

I have been gone all day, so sorry for not being around.

Here's my take on anything. Yesterday, CJ said he targeted me Night 2 and got an unsuccessful...that leads me to believe he is telling the truth because if somebody targeted me and got a successful, then I wouldn't be able to tell you about it.

Basically I have no active power and no night action. You can try to gather any information on me you want, you will be unsuccessful.

I am 100% town, although I have played very poorly. I shouldn't have went after Gub on day 2...but something just felt wrong about him. Still, looking back it would have been better to lynch Blade Day 2 and we would have had much more info to go on and wouldn't be in the pickle that we are in.

If you lynch me... we will lose the game and the 3rd party will have free reign to the finish line. I see where the party lines are drawn right now.... it's probably going to be a lynch on Either KEaton or myself. Here's where I stand... I have never given you false information that led to the lynch of a townie. Sure, I have been on the lynch of both townies.... so has Keaton.

We need to be 100% certain who we lynch tonight... or it's game over.

I know I'm not scum.... but I'm a little worried that Keaton's not either.

Kurt got a wrong read on Blade....Keaton may have gotten something wrong as well.

We can't let the day go without a lynch. IF we lynch someone, then at least we take the game in our own hands.

[President Jeff]

I've seen Tmarv lie so much in the Mafia game that I never know when to believe him. I mean, he's such an experienced player that you'd think he'd be helping the town, which is something he hasn't done this game.

Vote:Tmarv

We need to take a chance and Lynch someone, and where its looking like its going to be Tmarv or Keaton, between the two, I'm just going with my gut feeling

[A.C. Smith]

The fact that we've got about 12 hours to make a decision on who to lynch and have zero concrete evidence to go off of is a credit to the anti-town players. That also applies to the fact that it looks like we're going to have a very divided vote, which could well mean a no-lynch (and continued free reign by the third parties).

With regard to T-Marv and Saint, I have no idea who to believe. Saint's brought a lot of information to the table, but all the information we've compiled hasn't gotten us anywhere as a town. Meanwhile, T-Marv has a reputation of being a very good player in this game, and one who knows how to lie to get where he wants to go.

Something T-Marv said, though, rubbed me the wrong way. He said we needed to be 100% certain who we lynch tonight, but then said he wasn't quite sure if Keaton was scum or not. Maybe this is my inexperience talking, but given that this is likely going to come down to T-Marv and Saint, that smells of someone trying to get a third person involved, thus assuring a no-lynch and continued dominance by the third parties.

Is it concrete? No. But we need a lynch tonight, and I'm in the same boat as Jeff with regard to going with my gut. I reserve the right to change this if new information comes out, but...

VOTE: T-Marv

[Jules]

Sorry for my absence. I had planned a big post yesterday, but after tracking through everything I had a hard time putting together any kind of consistent thought.

It looks like we're going the way of Keaton or Tmarv for a lynch. Keaton's info let us down in terms of getting Blade lynched, but I am getting town vibes from him. Tmarv, well he could be lying and I wouldn't put it past him. Gameplay has raised one or two red flags, but one thing I would need to square away in my own mind before I vote for him is why Tmarv would be so vociferously against a Blade lynch one day, and then the polar opposite the next. If he was scum trying to put away Blade when the day 2 bandwagon was rolling that would have been a good time to pounce, especially when Blade was at 5-6 votes. Of course, that he did a complete about face looks fishy, but this may just be down to bad gameplay and a desperation to get a lynch.

Right now I need more to put a vote against either of these guys, although I am fully aware a lynch is going to need most of the town support. I understand a no lynch is not an option (not in terms of what we lose, but in terms of gaining nothing in return) and if my vote is needed I will make it if I feel the case is merited.

This probably sounds a bit scummy, but I think everyone understands now that I am with the town.

However, there are two other people who have caught my attention: Rebel & Kris.

Rebel has been way under the radar, but this isn't fishy in itself because he always seems to play this way. What concerns me is that he has played this game as neither strongly pro-town nor strongly anti-town. He hasn't contributed substantially with info or possible insights, and has dropped by with a few drops of scepticism, a role-fish here or there. I think this smacks of scum and he has done well to get by with barely any suspicion so far.

Kris, has been active but has also played a little inconspicuously. She's kinda gone along with the bandwagons without really offering her own point of view, just reiterated somebody else's. She was on the first Blade lynch, but not the second, but so was I. The only difference is that I am confirmed town, she isn't. She also knows mafia here well enough to know who the MVPs are.

Atm... FoS: Rebel & Kris.

When I hopefully have more time later I'll drop back in and see if anything has changed to help a more concrete decision.

[C.J. Gates]

Apr 22, 2012 2:19:56 GMT -4 Smash INC said:

How many games have there been where not a single anti-town was lynched anyhow?

Around here? I think one or two.

To be honest, I was trying to cook up some sort of talk. Like Noble said, things kind of fell apart, which is a clear sign of the anti-town players just stalling the game to get the win for themselves with a no lynch.

Unvote

Of course Marvin has stood out to me (as has Rebel from Farq's FOS). His unwillingness to lynch Blade day 2 and then his accepting the fact that Blade is the recruiter after doubt was cast onto the scene is a bit odd, especially when he votes Gub, unvote him and vote Knuckles, and then vote Gub a second time to help lynch him. Nothing that has alarm bells ringing, but it's something that never sat right with me. I'm still suspicious of the unsuccessful read on him, though.

What also stood out (just now anyways) was this:

Sure, I have been on the lynch of both townies.... so has Keaton.

Keaton actually hasn't. Keaton never took his vote off of Blade day two, and went back to Blade day 3. You, on the other hand, flopped around on day two to try and lynch somebody and then stuck hard to Blade day three because you knew people would build a good solid case against him.

With no real intel to go off of, we're essentially at a point where we have to roll the dice and hope for the best. The game could end tonight, the game could go one, all depends who gets lynched and everything to follow. So with that, I am going to roll the dice...

Vote: TMarv

He's been suspect to me, and with the day winding down he might be the best option we have, I don't know because we have nothing to go off of. We're basically going to be running around chasing our tails. Hopefully this leads to a continued game...

[Kurt]

Vote: T-marv

First off T-marv, Smash was not on both lynches; only Blade's, and his push for it was based off information I gained, and still believe to be true. I believe that the bite had a side effect that we just don't understand, and won't until the end-game. I won't vote Smash because doing so goes against my own information, and no revealed role or role-hint has led me to believe my info was false.

I was trying to decide between you or CJ, because you've both been vocal players on the townie lynches. I know you've claimed "bad play" throughout the game, but that just isn't good enough. I think you flipped on the Blade lynch because there was enough information out to "safely" do so, and not look like the prime suspect when he flipped town (Look who's opposite on the guillotine). We have no information that pushes you as a suspect, but gameplay wise, there's enough information for me to believe you're the SK or the cult recruiter.

Also, if the cult can recruit an unlimited amount of times, it's a broken mechanic because we could theoretically lynch cult every day and lose the game. I don't believe L1 designed the game like that.

[Kurt]

If my math is correct, one more vote hammers Tmarv.

Before that happens, who do you think is cult?

[iceman49]

as this is my first time playin this game i have not really had the time to really put a really big responce together but after the blade lynch, i took the time to read all the pages again and it seems that the only person that stands out for me is t-marv.


the reasoning behind that is because when the origanl lynch on blade fell through and we jumped to gub some of the info to me seemed suspect, but at the time i did not thimk much of it but lately with the now lynch of Blade i began to read read all the info that has come up over the last few days and the more i read the more and more i think t-marv is eaither the leader or the recruiter so with that said


vote t-marv

[T-Marv]

Congrats guys... you just lost.

Congrats Cult... well played game.

[T-Marv]

Since I'm getting Lynched anyways....


I am Simon... The invisible guy.. I am town AND no night roles would work on me EXCEPT a kill!

Also Noble... Keaton switched to Gub on day two at the end and I even pointed out that it was scummy....

Have fun purple team.

[T-Marv]

correction... Keaton didn't vote Gub....my mistake. Doesn't matter anyways. Congrats to....

Kurt, Saint, and CJ....for winning this game.

I take full responsibility for losing it as I was full on the Blade lynch day 3 which was a TRULY bad idea.

[Kurt]

Apr 22, 2012 12:28:53 GMT -4 T-Marv said:

Since I'm getting Lynched anyways....


I am Simon... The invisible guy.. I am town AND no night roles would work on me EXCEPT a kill!

Also Noble... Keaton switched to Gub on day two at the end and I even pointed out that it was scummy....

Have fun purple team.

He never voted for Gubayama. I don't recall you pointing out it was scummy, but I'll take your word for it.

If there is a remaining doctor, I'm requesting protection tonight. Sally being picked off last day phase means the SK is looking to eliminate people with investigative abilities so they can keep the game running on pure speculation alone.

[T-Marv]

^^^^^

HAHAHAHAHA!

I really think the lies are beyond you now don't you Kurt? You have the town outnumbered. Now all you have to do is find the SK and the game is over! lol.

[Level-Two]

That's a LYNCH! - no more talking please.

[Level-Two]

Sorry guys, write up will come soon but...

Dead day 4 (lynched) - T-Marv - Simon Bellamy - Invisibility - Town

Night 4 has begun. Please send me your night actions by 9:00 PM EST - thanks!

[Level-Two]

Nathan Young finds himself locked in handcuffs as he's taken to the local police station and held in custody. A few ours later he's sat down in an interrogation office – as investigators press for answers on the deaths of Sally, Tony, Nikki and now Kelly Bailey.

Nathan Young: I have no idea what you guys are talking about. I didn't kill anyone of these people – I pinky swear!

The two interrogators look at each-other frustrated by where the process had been going.

Nathan Young: Okay, so I tried to dump the bodies but that's only because me and my friends at the community centre were being set up! We couldn't just come to police because why would the believe a bunch of smelly underage fucks doing community service for?

Nathan Young sighs.

Nathan Young: This sucks. I'm going to be thrown in Prison for the rest of my life – the worst part is... I AM FUCKING IMMORTAL.

The interrogators stare at Nathan Young with confusion as he leans back in his chair.

Nathan Young: Alright, so you guys want to know more huh? What kind of plea deals can you offer me?

-Community Centre-

Curtis Donovan, Simon Bellamy, Jamie Young, Daisy and Rudy Wade are plotting their next move against the Virtue when Alisha Bailey walks into the community centre alone. This startles Curtis who see's her first.

Curtis Donovan: She's here! It's Alisha – she's here to convert us into her bullshit Jesus squad!

Alisha Bailey raises a eyebrow.

Alisha Bailey: Um, no I am not? Look guys, I don't know what Simon has told you or made you believe I am not apart of the Virtue – I swear!

Simon looks at Alisha with a great deal of suspicion as she nervously looks away from him.

Jamie Young: That's bullshit. We all saw you with them!

Alisha Bailey: I know but I can explain. I was just there to gather information about them. I put this silly dress on to make them think I was one of them. The truth is – Simon isn't who you think he is.

The misfits turn around and look at Simon Bellamy who's singled out by the group.

Alisha Bailey: I was with Simon when Sally and Tony were killed. Simon said it was the milk man Brian but he's lying... he killed Tony & Sally!

Rudy Wade looks at Simon.

Rudy Wade: How could you man?

Simon looks at Alisha Bailey.

Simon Bellamy: Alisha why are you doing this to me!?

Alisha Bailey: Simon it's time to tell everyone the truth.

Simon Bellamy: I love you, Alisha!

Simon steps forward towards Alisha but Curtis Donovan reaches out and puts a hand on his chest stopping him. Curtis Donovan shakes his head side to side before winding up and knocking Simon Bellamy out cold.

Curtis Donovan: Alisha – if you're lying about this your next.

The misfits proceeded to tie a makeshift lynch and hung Simon Bellamy from the ceiling – despite his innocence he loved Alisha Bailey too much to put up a fight.

Dead day 4 (lynched): T-Marv – Simon Bellamy – Invisibility – Town

The misfits all stand around starting to regret their brash decision. They look at each-other all with suspicion when suddenly Alisha Bailey takes off running out of the community centre.

Curtis Donovan: Fuck!

Curtis Donovan takes off running after Alisha Bailey who slips around a sharp corner causing Curtis Donovan to lose her. She uses her ability to see through his eyes to watch him and quickly makes her escape when she realizes he (followed by the other misfits) have gone too far in the wrong direction.

Jamie Young: We lost her.

Rudy Wade out of breath comes up with the wise decision.

Rudy Wade: Maybe we should all split up? No pun intended and everything...

Curtis Donovan rolls his eyes as the misfits split up. Daisy and Jamie Young go one way and Curtis Donovan and Rudy Wade go the other.

Jaime Young: Man this shit is so messed up.

Daisy: Everything is going to be okay, I'm sure of it.

Jamie Young: Easy for you to say, you actually have a power.

Jamie Young curses under his breath when suddenly he's finds himself face to face with Brian who has returned to the community centre.

Brian: Oh, look what I have found here.

Jamie Young: You fucker! You're the guy that killed my brother!

Brian smiled.

Brian: Well, tried to at least. Though, I came back to even the score. You see if I can't kill Nathan then your the next best thing.

Jamie winds up to take a swing but is stop mid punch as Brian tenses his eyes.

Brian: You know Jamie – I sure hope that box of cheese strings you snacked on here in the community centre was worth it.

Daisy cries out.

Daisy: What are you doing to him!? Stop!? Please just leave him alone he's done nothing to you!

Brian: Don't you worry you will get your turn soon. Right now I'm busy wrapping strings around your friends blood vessels and vital organs. I love tying people in knots!

Jamie Young collapses to the ground. He's still alive but it's clear he's in a horrible condition.

Brian: Your friend Jamie here is going to watch you both die.

Brian tenses up his face but his power fails to work on Daisy who looks at him like he's a nutcase. Brian tenses up even more put it's clear his power doesn't effect her.

Brian: You're a vegan aren't you?

Daisy nods her head up and down as Brian in a huff pulls out a knife and shoves it to her throat as he gets up behind her and forces her down the community centre hallway.

Brian: I hate people like you.

Dead night 4 (killed) – CJ Gates – Jamie Young – Spiking Drinks – Town

SETHS OFFICE-

Seth sits at his desk as he finishes dealing another power to another power hungry customer who walks away satisfied.

Seth: Next!

Several seconds later a beautiful brunette walked in catching Seth's eyes. With her hands behind her back she nervously approach his desk – as she took a seat and greeted him with a friendly smile.

Seth: What's your name?

Rachel: Rachel

Seth smiled.

Seth: Are you buying or selling today, Rachel?

Rachel: Neither.

Seth raised and eyebrow as Rachel revealed a shank.

Seth: You might want to put that away.

Suddenly Rachel slashes Seth right across the throat with a switch blade. Blood spurts from his neck as he falls face first onto his table. Rachel casually shoves the bloody knife into her purse and struts out of his office as if nothing had happened.

Dead night 4 (killed): Johnny Rebel – Seth – Power Dealer/bus driver - Town

With 8 alive it takes 5 votes to lynch.

Deadline for day 5 is 9:00 PM EST Thursday.

[A.C. Smith]

Um...in a word, OUCH.

Another day/night, another win for the anti-town players. Needless to say we're up shit creek now.

[Reaver]

i knew it......we had a bus driver this whole time. now the question is who ELSE got driven?

[Kris]

I have no idea. All the more I know is that nothing's happened to me to where I needed notified of something happening. About all the more I know now is that the town is, for all intents and purposes, screwed. Correct me if I'm wrong on that, but that's how it's looking to me. That being said... it comes down to what is worse, the serial killer or the cult. My thought is that if the serial killer offs cultists for us, then that could save things for the town-- but he has yet to hit a single cultist.

Maybe my theory about them being connected isn't so far off from the truth...

[Smash INC]

Apr 25, 2012 0:26:21 GMT -4 Kris said:

I have no idea. All the more I know is that nothing's happened to me to where I needed notified of something happening. About all the more I know now is that the town is, for all intents and purposes, screwed. Correct me if I'm wrong on that, but that's how it's looking to me. That being said... it comes down to what is worse, the serial killer or the cult. My thought is that if the serial killer offs cultists for us, then that could save things for the town-- but he has yet to hit a single cultist.

Maybe my theory about them being connected isn't so far off from the truth...

Which would had made this a certified loss had they been a single party, the extra death certifies that the SK and the cult are independent of each other.

But that isn't the issue here seeing as we've all but lost.

I am (and I can claim this based on the flavour) one of the people Brian cannot kill. In fact when you consider what is left, Brian can only kill the cult.

But the cult have a kill streak now and the only thing we can do to offset this is believe that Level stuck in a clause that the cult leader's death results in the unculting of the rest.

Based on what we know and what I assume, I think the vote is clear.

Farq has all but claimed Nathan so he's safe, Smith cannot be the cult recruiter or Brian. Knuckles is all but confirmed as Shannon and the watcher role that Kurt has mentioned certifies him as Alisha.

Both recruited, not recruiters or Brian.

Rudy got recruited so that means one of Jeff/Smith/Royce is Rudy, one of the others is Daisy and the last is Brian OR the cult recruiter.

But herein lies an interesting piece, Kurt confirmed the block on him via a town role (CJ, which partially explains my fail as he was a drink spiker). This means the cult retained their abilities.

Kris has been claiming to have an ability, the cult will obviously be in communication and they can relay results. My assumption is that Kris' failed result is that Kurt checked someone that didn't give a result of worth and therefore claims to have no result.

Kris is your cult recruiter. Royce has been too distant from the game to really feature as anti-town, Jeff is my candidate for Rudy once you look at the votes and Smith is confirmed to not be a recruiter/SK. When it comes to who can't be killed by the Big Cheese, Smith is one of them, I am the other. Farq couldn't be killed outright so that leaves us Kris.

Vote: Kris