MISFITS GAME THREAD [NOW PLAYING, DAY 5]

[Reaver]

Apr 16, 2012 10:47:23 GMT -4 Kurt said:

When you received your night action result, did it name Knuckles having bitten Blade?

No. Hopefully I'm not going too far into role-claim territory, but I saw what Knuckles saw when I used my action on him: a successful bite. Knuckles's name was no-where in the post.

That's one reason why I backed off Knuckles and switched to Blade: Because even if Knuckles was set-up or I was bussed, Blade's name was clear. Regardless of whoever did the action, someone successfully bit Blade.

this is wat i been talking about this whole time, how is it that u got a successful bite from me when MY action came back unsuccessful?

[C.J. Gates]

I looked back and, maybe I am just not as informed on the various roles as others, but I couldn't tell what you were hinting at. You have an offensive town role, you used it on James, but James would only know if he had a night role, but since he didn't he didn't know you visited/investigated/did whatever to him.

And I think it's 2 more till a lynch.

[Kurt]

Apr 16, 2012 11:05:24 GMT -4 Reaver said:

Apr 16, 2012 10:47:23 GMT -4 Kurt said:

When you received your night action result, did it name Knuckles having bitten Blade?

No. Hopefully I'm not going too far into role-claim territory, but I saw what Knuckles saw when I used my action on him: a successful bite. Knuckles's name was no-where in the post.

That's one reason why I backed off Knuckles and switched to Blade: Because even if Knuckles was set-up or I was bussed, Blade's name was clear. Regardless of whoever did the action, someone successfully bit Blade.

this is wat i been talking about this whole time, how is it that u got a successful bite from me when MY action came back unsuccessful?

Because you're lying about your night action being unsuccessful?

People lie. Again, you're not just going to claim "Well, you got me!"

Someone hammer Blade already. We've beaten this subject to death. If Blade really flips town, feel free to lynch me tomorrow. I won't even put up a fight...so then you can turn to Knuckles when I flip town. Someone in this equation is third party, and it isn't me.

[Blade]

Thats the best thing there CJ

If he doesn't have a night action, he wont know that I was successful.

If he does have a night action, he will damn well sure know that I am telling the truth saying that I visited him


The only way I can confirm that I was successful elsewhere is for JamesV to come forward and say his night action failed.

Its not an modified role. Its straight forward.

[Kurt]

Apr 16, 2012 11:06:33 GMT -4 C.J. Gates said:

I looked back and, maybe I am just not as informed on the various roles as others, but I couldn't tell what you were hinting at. You have an offensive town role, you used it on James, but James would only know if he had a night role, but since he didn't he didn't know you visited/investigated/did whatever to him.

And I think it's 2 more till a lynch.

He's hinting roleblocker.

[T-Marv]

I guess I'm just missing something here. I don't get the lynch on Blade at all. Guess I'm just too trusting right?

Gub is still #1 suspect in my mind and I am fairly sure Blade will come back Town. When he does, there is going to be a clusterfuck of confusion where the town is concerned, which is exactly what the scum want. There's going to be like 5 suspects tomorrow and we are not heading down a very good path.

I don't like it, don't like it one bit.

[Blade]

@ Noble

Are you even willing to consider that your actions are wrong? That you are actually misinformed

Keaton is going after me for being the cult leader/recruiter, yet I am the one who was supposedly bitten?

One possibility, you or Keaton don't have a lynched role do you?

[T-Marv]

Even in the write up...the bite failed didn't it?

[C.J. Gates]

@ Blade - Ah, missed that line. Though that doesn't complete exonerate you, since a) roleblocker can be both good and bad and b) no one will counterclaim because they won't want to get axed in the night.

Also, my vote isn't on you for being the recruiter so much as it's on you for being bitten. Colors are different so I can only assume that it's not good for the town to have a zombie squad going around.

@ Marvin - I don't think there will be five. I think that if Blade pops up town, Noble will be suspect #1, at least to me. Saint is a close 2nd, but unless someone 150% convincing happens at night, my vote will immediately go to Noble for the sole fact that it was his information that we are going off of.

In the end, I think it's either Blade or no one. I doubt anyone from the Blade lynch will leave, there aren't enough people not voting to lynch either Knuckles or Gub, so we'll probably get hit with either a lynch of Blade or a no lynch.

[Kurt]

Apr 16, 2012 11:11:00 GMT -4 Blade said:

@ Noble

Are you even willing to consider that your actions are wrong? That you are actually misinformed

Keaton is going after me for being the cult leader/recruiter, yet I am the one who was supposedly bitten?

One possibility, you or Keaton don't have a lynched role do you?

I have considered that the person I used my night action on was switched. Even if so, someone out there successfully bit you. I gave you the chance to prove that I was wrong, and you couldn't. Your roleblocker claim fell short when JamesV couldn't verify it.

Knuckles bit you, but my guess is that you have a reactionary ability recruited him. My guess is that L1 made the write-up ambiguous so as to give you a fighting chance, so it wasn't blatantly obvious that I just nabbed two third party people. Hell, maybe you are a cult roleblocker...but with everything I've seen thoughout the day, you aren't town.

And no, I don't have a lyncher role.

[Blade]

Apr 16, 2012 11:17:46 GMT -4 C.J. Gates said:

@ Blade - Ah, missed that line. Though that doesn't complete exonerate you, since a) roleblocker can be both good and bad and b) no one will counterclaim because they won't want to get axed in the night.

Also, my vote isn't on you for being the recruiter so much as it's on you for being bitten. Colors are different so I can only assume that it's not good for the town to have a zombie squad going around.

Well If I die and there is a Zombie cult there will definately be more after tonight because when my role comes back as exactly what I have said, no one else with a night action can stop them.

No one can counter claim me because I am what I say I am.

In the end, I think it's either Blade or no one. I doubt anyone from the Blade lynch will leave, there aren't enough people not voting to lynch either Knuckles or Gub, so we'll probably get hit with either a lynch of Blade or a no lynch.

Day 2 will end @ 8:00 PM EST Tuesday

Plenty of time for you guys to get me lynched. Like I say, I would hammer myself, but what is the point when I know that I am town and what Kurt is spurting is absolute nonsense

[Blade]

Apr 16, 2012 11:20:00 GMT -4 Kurt said:

Knuckles bit you, but my guess is that you have a reactionary ability recruited him. My guess is that L1 made the write-up ambiguous so as to give you a fighting chance, so it wasn't blatantly obvious that I just nabbed two third party people. Hell, maybe you are a cult roleblocker...but with everything I've seen thoughout the day, you aren't town.

My character hasn't even shown up in ANY write up yet.

[C.J. Gates]

So you're saying you're one of possibly four characters that hasn't shown up in the write up yet? Convenient.

And yes, there's plenty of time. However of the 5 who haven't voted:

Jeff recently unvoted you.
You aren't going to hammer yourself
James won't vote you because he's not sold
AC Smith can't vote because it's likely he got silenced by Gub last night.
Chaz has been barely in the game.

I'm not saying that you are going to get hit with a lynch, but there's a chance the night will end in a no lynch. Everyone is just spread out right now.

[iceman49]

after reading everything and going over what everyone has said i am changing my vote cause i feel that te stuff about gub is more intresting and suspect to say the least.


VOTE GUB

[Jules]

Apr 16, 2012 8:50:41 GMT -4 C.J. Gates said:

Regarding GUB...

I'm assuming that he's a jailkeeper, because I've never seen a role of Silencer, but I don't think jailkeeper is 100% scum.

My understanding of a jailkeeper is roleblocking and protecting the target during the night. This role has no power to silence a player during a day. If the role is a variant to include silencing, well then it just becomes an orthodox silencer (target can't talk but can vote) or kidnapper (target out of a day/night cycle), which are mafia roles.

Jailkeeper

• wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Jailkeeper
  
• deusexmafia.wetpaint.com/page/Mafia+Role+List
  

Silencer:

• wiki.epicmafia.com/index.php?title=Silencer
  
• deusexmafia.wetpaint.com/page/Mafia+Role+List
  

I don't want this to be too much of a distraction (I'm putting it out there so I don't forget about it), but I find it curious C.J. that you are defending Gubayama without quite defending him, if you know what I mean...more a case of making excuses for him maybe. I wonder why that might be the case.

[Jules]

EBWOP

Apr 16, 2012 11:32:50 GMT -4 C.J. Gates said:

AC Smith can't vote because it's likely he got silenced by Gub last night.

Is this a slip of the tongue and therefore an unintended admission?

[C.J. Gates]

Apr 16, 2012 12:16:59 GMT -4 Jules said:

EBWOP

Apr 16, 2012 11:32:50 GMT -4 C.J. Gates said:

AC Smith can't vote because it's likely he got silenced by Gub last night.

Is this a slip of the tongue and therefore an unintended admission?

It's a statement I made based on what was said. Gub said that he used his role last night to silence someone. AC Smith hasn't checked in this day as far as I know, and hasn't been mod-killed as of yet, so I can only assume that by putting two and two together it means that Gub silenced AC Smith.

And I'm not trying to defend him. If there was proof beyond his role and the whole deal with him receiving it, I'd be voting for him. After all, I was the one pointing at him early on this day because of him not being around yesterday. Though, as I noted when I changed my vote from Knuckles to Blade, I'd rather follow the actual evidence that we have as opposed to throwing out a vote on Gub. I'm not defending him. He's scum to me, plain and simple. I think that he was active in a scum or third party QT on day one which was why he wasn't mod-killed, but I'm voting Blade because that is what we actually have intel wise.

[Kurt]

Here's my problem with the Gubayama lynch:

There's like one person at the center of it: Gubayama. You can *maybe* toss Sally/Knuckles in there, but really, this lynch is about Gubayama.

The Blade lynch? It's about me/Saint/Knuckles/Blade. I include Saint because apparently we're a pair. If Blade flips town OR third-party, the town has much more info to go off of than Gubayama's lynch, which honestly is a deadend today even if he is Mafia. If he's town, we'll hear cries of "Well, he seemed scummy!" It's just not going to give us any hard evidence either way.

Even if Blade/Knuckles think I'm bullshitting, lynching one of them gives insight on *three* other players. If Blade flips purple, you know I (and Saint, who I firmly believe is town) are correct and we can pursue Knuckles.

If Blade flips town, I acknowledge it's my head on the guillotine. Might be Saint's too, but you won't lynch him after I turn up green. Then you can look at Knuckles on Day 4.

A no-lynch is the absolute worst thing we can do today.

[T-Marv]

Apr 16, 2012 13:38:51 GMT -4 Kurt said:

A no-lynch is the absolute worst thing we can do today.

THIS!

So therefore unvote

However I refuse to vote for Blade. Something just doesn't add up there and I don't like it.

Vote Knuckles

I believe him being the biter more than blade being bitten.

[Level-Two]

Curtis Donovan: He's trying to smash the bottle with his mind. I think he's going to shit himself.

Current vote count:

Blade: 6 (Keaton Saint, Kurt Noble, Kris, Farquhar, Johnny Rebel, CJ Gates)
Knuckles: 3 ( Sally Talfourd, Gubayama, T-Marv)
Gubayama: 2 (Knuckles, Jason Royce)

Not voting: Chaz Dillinger, JamesV, AC smith, Blade, President Jeff

Mod note: I'm counting your vote for the first and last time, Jason Royce when it's not bolded. Please bold your votes from now on or I will ignore them.

With 16 alive it takes 9 votes to lynch.

Deadline @ Tuesday 8:00 PM EST

[Kris]

I could throw stones at Blade for reacting to the extreme to defend himself, but considering how I did it when I lost my cool last game? It'd be fairly hypocritical of me to do so, even though I fully admit to it being bad play when I did it.

As for Gum... while he is an obvious target for the future, the danger to the town is less than it would be for the cult leader. As such, with the way things have panned out, I still believe Blade to be the best vote -- so that's where mine is staying, at least for now.

[Blade]

Apr 16, 2012 17:43:54 GMT -4 Kris said:

I could throw stones at Blade for reacting to the extreme to defend himself, but considering how I did it when I lost my cool last game? It'd be fairly hypocritical of me to do so, even though I fully admit to it being bad play when I did it.

As for Gum... while he is an obvious target for the future, the danger to the town is less than it would be for the cult leader. As such, with the way things have panned out, I still believe Blade to be the best vote -- so that's where mine is staying, at least for now.

I am not a cult leader, recruit, follower or anything to do with a cult or 3rd party.

It's obvious which character Kurt is claiming to be and said person didnt get that power until season 3.

Kurt is claiming he put himself inside knuckles (lol) and saw knuckles successfully bite me.

Ok, then if the bite was successful why did the write up show this?

Shannon goes to bite her victim who looks squarely in her eyes.

Rachel: You don't need to behave like this. You could be so much better.

Suddenly, Shannon's bloodlust comes to an end as she dismounts her prey and helps her up to her feet.

Shannon: I'm sorry about that – I don't know what got into me.

There was no successful bite which puts holes in Kurt's info

I thought I had no idea as to why Kurt saw me anywhere near knuckles and then I remembered a certain character from the show

Lucy is a former friend of Simon's, whom he met during his treatment in a psychiatric unit after his attempted arson. She has the ability to shape-shift into other individuals and animals. Lucy's clothes and voice also change through shape-shifting, however she can't replicate powers.

And there we have the reason.

I believe this is why Kurt got my name.

We have a framer

[Nathaniel Havok]

Caught back up now. 16 hour day yesterday kicked the living shit out of me. I'm not going to throw a vote out there just yet... I've got 3 to 4 different people that have peaked my interest in this game. Maybe they're working together, maybe not. But I have no choice but to just sit back and watch, due to no actions whatsoever (day or night). I'm pretty much worthless, so I don't want to risk lynching any townees. I need solid proof, before I go throwing bones out there.

[Smash INC]

I'm really tempted to unvote after that but the possibility of you being cult recruiter is that strong that I cannot let it go.

The head is a better lynch than a knuckle as it were.

I'm open to the Knuckles lynch and will place my vote there if we need to shift because from my point of view proving Knuckles proves Blade as well as vice versa.

[Blade]

Apr 16, 2012 18:29:26 GMT -4 Smash INC said:

I'm really tempted to unvote after that but the possibility of you being cult recruiter is that strong that I cannot let it go.

The head is a better lynch than a knuckle as it were.

I'm open to the Knuckles lynch and will place my vote there if we need to shift because from my point of view proving Knuckles proves Blade as well as vice versa.

You will not get a cult recruiter by lynching me

[Kurt]

Apr 16, 2012 18:38:39 GMT -4 Blade said:

Apr 16, 2012 18:29:26 GMT -4 Smash INC said:

I'm really tempted to unvote after that but the possibility of you being cult recruiter is that strong that I cannot let it go.

The head is a better lynch than a knuckle as it were.

I'm open to the Knuckles lynch and will place my vote there if we need to shift because from my point of view proving Knuckles proves Blade as well as vice versa.

You will not get a cult recruiter by lynching me

I'll entertain your theory of a framer under one condition.

Post "My role is the cult recruiter."

[Blade]

Apr 16, 2012 18:55:22 GMT -4 Kurt said:

I'll entertain your theory of a framer under one condition.

Post "My role is the cult recruiter."

I will, however if you are looking for someone to lie detect, I already gave you a list

I was not bitten.

I was not converted.

I am not a Cult leader/recruiter.

I used my action where I said I used it.

Whats your angle?

[Kris]

His angle is that if you post that and don't get modkilled... then it's a false claim.

Or, at least, that's my guess.

[Blade]

Apr 16, 2012 19:05:33 GMT -4 Kris said:

His angle is that if you post that and don't get modkilled... then it's a false claim.

Or, at least, that's my guess.

Thats what I thought.

2. Role claiming is NOT allowed! The ONLY exception is sharing INVESTIGATIVE information. This applies to cops, watchers and any other roles that are investigative in nature.

Just waiting on confirmation of something from L-1

[Blade]

The reason I say that is because it says no role claiming.

Claiming a role that I dont have is still a claim