Kris
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There's no lie in her fire.
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Post by Kris on Apr 16, 2012 19:16:45 GMT -4
That it won't get you killed if you do so? That's fair enough, I think.
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Post by Gubayama Takagi on Apr 16, 2012 19:19:33 GMT -4
The reason I say that is because it says no role claiming. Claiming a role that I dont have is still a claim :S no it isn't. "Hey guys, I just bought the new Uncharted game today. lol" This is a person claiming to have the new Uncharted game. "No, guys. I do NOT have the new Uncharted game." This is the exact opposite. He's denying. Stop lying, Blade. unvoteVote: Blade
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Post by Blade on Apr 16, 2012 19:26:41 GMT -4
WTF??
Claiming to have a role I dont have is still a roleclaim.
by denying I have said role is not claiming it.
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Post by Kurt on Apr 16, 2012 19:26:45 GMT -4
The reason I say that is because it says no role claiming. Claiming a role that I dont have is still a claim It's not a claim. It's a lie. I'm not asking you to say your role...right? Unvote: BladeI won't let you get lynched before L1 confirms it, so I'll unvote so no one can hammer. If you aren't modkilled after you say it, I'll back off.
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Post by Blade on Apr 16, 2012 19:28:49 GMT -4
That is fair enough Kurt, I appreciate it.
As soon as L-1 gets back to me I will post.
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Post by Kurt on Apr 16, 2012 19:30:07 GMT -4
That is fair enough Kurt, I appreciate it. As soon as L-1 gets back to me I will post. I would appreciate if L1 can post it himself for clarification...not that I don't trust you, of course.
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Post by Jules on Apr 16, 2012 19:30:49 GMT -4
The reason I say that is because it says no role claiming. Claiming a role that I dont have is still a claim It's not a claim. It's a lie. I'm not asking you to say your role...right? Unvote: BladeI won't let you get lynched before L1 confirms it, so I'll unvote so no one can hammer. If you aren't modkilled after you say it, I'll back off. I support this. No-one should vote until this is resolved.
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Post by Level-Two on Apr 16, 2012 19:34:29 GMT -4
Mod Note: Boy, you guys are a handful. The best way I'm going to put this - that any attempt to skirt the rules of the game will not be tolerated. In other words - claiming roles you HAVE OR either DO NOT HAVE have is still a role claim. If you want to refute a claim someone has made against you then you can do so - but the only thing you're allowed to declare is your innocence or guilt if that's what you're aiming for.
''I am everything EXCEPT the townie ______'' claims are not acceptable which essentially is what this can turn into, so I'm nipping it in the butt now.
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Post by Blade on Apr 16, 2012 19:39:26 GMT -4
Well there you go. All I can say is that everything I have said is the truth. My vote today goes for.... Vote GubbyThe reason I say that is because it says no role claiming. Claiming a role that I dont have is still a claim :S no it isn't. "Hey guys, I just bought the new Uncharted game today. lol" This is a person claiming to have the new Uncharted game. "No, guys. I do NOT have the new Uncharted game." This is the exact opposite. He's denying. Stop lying, Blade. unvoteVote: BladeThat is why.
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Post by Kurt on Apr 16, 2012 19:46:28 GMT -4
That's the response I expected, honestly. It's a good call.
I really don't know about you Blade. The write-up, my information, being unable to verify your role-blocker hint, you declaring yourself one of only a handful of characters not mentioned in the write-ups thus far...there's just so much against your favor right now.
If I let you go, this issue is going to sit in the back of my mind until the endgame. If you're the third party recruiter, I definitely will have made the worst Mafia move I've ever made.
I'm going to go through the list of characters, and if I can't find a character that matches a role-block like ability...I am going to vote you.
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Post by Blade on Apr 16, 2012 19:58:57 GMT -4
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Smash INC
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Post by Smash INC on Apr 16, 2012 20:21:00 GMT -4
I would like to say I'm well versed on the flavour of Misfits but I'm still struggling to find a suitable person that Blade would fit under as a role-blocker or role-block like ability. I'm struggling on both ends since there isn't really a villain who had that specific sort of power either.
I'm probably looking at this from the wrong perspective, but if anyone else has a decent knowledge of the flavour and throw a suggestion out there I'm all ears.
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Post by Blade on Apr 16, 2012 20:22:44 GMT -4
Any way I need to sleep, same predicament as last night however my thoughts are different.
If you do decide to lynch me and when it is revealed I am town, DO NOT try and lynch Kurt he actually is town and hus role/character should be obvious. As much as he is mis informed about my role, unfortunately he is town too
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Post by Kurt on Apr 16, 2012 20:22:54 GMT -4
Saint, really my only guess is this "Superhoodie" character. The wiki says it's Simon from the future, but he's come back to make sure certain events happen. That means stopping certain other events...which is the only roleblocker character possibility to me.
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Post by Blade on Apr 16, 2012 20:25:17 GMT -4
I would like to say I'm well versed on the flavour of Misfits but I'm still struggling to find a suitable person that Blade would fit under as a role-blocker or role-block like ability. I'm struggling on both ends since there isn't really a villain who had that specific sort of power either. I'm probably looking at this from the wrong perspective, but if anyone else has a decent knowledge of the flavour and throw a suggestion out there I'm all ears. *I* wouldn't class this person as the role I have, trust me am trying to save myself and keep running into walls
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Post by President Jeff on Apr 16, 2012 20:31:31 GMT -4
I really don't know who I should vote. Right now, I think Kurt is telling the truth, but so is Blade. But Blade is such a vet in this game, that he could be playing all of us. Look at what Tmarv did last game.
Right now, I'm leaning towards Knuckles and Gubay. Gubay to me, seems sketchy with his post. flip flopping, Silenced a player which doesn't help town out at all. And pushing for Blade to roleclaim in his last post, pretty much did it for me
Vote: Gubayama
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Post by Nathaniel Havok on Apr 16, 2012 20:43:04 GMT -4
I'm with Jeff on this one. He flopped from one person to the next, first accusing Knuckles (while the votes were still going up), and now to Blade (yet again, while the votes are going up). Either he's green at the game (don't worry, I'm still green), or he's scum. Either way, I smell scum. However, before I vote, I'd like a response from him. Why the late flopping? Seems like you're just following the lynch trail. Lynch trailing is a scum move (or the act of desperate townees towards the end of the game). We're still the same as we were day one, without a lynch... So that rules out desperation in my book... Unless you're scum that is.
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Post by Reaver on Apr 16, 2012 22:13:41 GMT -4
theres nuttn LATE about it, he been flopping all day phase. as far as a framer goes, it makes sense. especially since i was told i was unsuccessful. either i was bussed with somebody or somebody is setting me up.
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Post by Kurt on Apr 16, 2012 22:16:32 GMT -4
I would like to say I'm well versed on the flavour of Misfits but I'm still struggling to find a suitable person that Blade would fit under as a role-blocker or role-block like ability. I'm struggling on both ends since there isn't really a villain who had that specific sort of power either. I'm probably looking at this from the wrong perspective, but if anyone else has a decent knowledge of the flavour and throw a suggestion out there I'm all ears. *I* wouldn't class this person as the role I have, trust me am trying to save myself and keep running into walls I really don't know what to think about you. There's just so much gray in this situation. My info says you were bitten...but a bite isn't explicit in the write-up. You have a roleblocker hint that no one can verify...but no one challenges either. You say your character isn't in the write-ups...but we can't find a single character that would match their ability. I want to lynch you so bad, and I know I'm blowing the game if I let you slip away and you're guilty. There's just something about this Gubayama lynch that feels off as well. I can't quite put my finger on it, but it feels so much like a diversion. I'm going to sleep on it, and make my decision in the morning. I can't stop anyone else from voting you...but given the remaining players and how they've posted, it appears you're safe for now.
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Post by Nathaniel Havok on Apr 16, 2012 22:25:56 GMT -4
You're right, Knux... But he blatantly voted for you when there were a ton of votes on your back. Didn't even give a reason, just plain and simple voted with nothing else on the post. He might not have done it the same way with the Blade vote, but he did it while everyone was on Blades case. Get what I'm saying?
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Post by Reaver on Apr 16, 2012 22:50:54 GMT -4
You're right, Knux... But he blatantly voted for you when there were a ton of votes on your back. Didn't even give a reason, just plain and simple voted with nothing else on the post. He might not have done it the same way with the Blade vote, but he did it while everyone was on Blades case. Get what I'm saying? ya i get it.
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Post by Michael Jennings on Apr 16, 2012 22:53:58 GMT -4
I think the both of you should step away from the computer and get some rest. Let's sum this up so even a child could understand: I told the town that last night I used my 'power' and I was successful in silencing someone I thought didn't bring anything to the table. Seeing who isn't here, you can guess who that is. Also, it's required of me to sign in, so I had to silence someone. I don't see what the issue is here. Noble thought, "well, dang, you might disrupt the flow if you keep at it" and I assured him that isn't the case. Now Knuckles is saying that I am denying I did anything last night. He seems to think I just 180'd my confession. Which doesn't make sense at all(because nowhere did I make any post that would lead anyone to believe I'm denying my action or that I have the ability to take action) but that's because he's trying to make me out to be someone really sketchy and nervous. Actually, you know what? Why is it that you're coming to back up Knuckles? Are you two working together? Your post is rushed and feels petty. "But, you aren't anywhere close to being the prime suspect for today, and anyone that tries to lynch you today over Knuckles or Blade is trying to stall the game, IMO." - Kurt Noble Interesting, indeed. Here is your scum in this scenario. After reading through everything I think Blade is innocent and Knuckles I'm not getting scum vibes from at all. Gub however got testy too quickly and thus is getting a vote from me for gameplay alone. I think his bandwagon sheeping vote is suspect as hell. Vote: Gub
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Post by SalTal on Apr 16, 2012 23:28:36 GMT -4
Wow, you guys have been busy! At about page 12, I figured I'd be coming to a Blade lynch, but so many people have backed off it. I find TMarv pretty scummy in all this. He votes for Gub when Blade is near lynching and Bub no where near it. Then, when pushed to get involved in the actually lynch debate (of Blade and Knuckles) he votes for the person with less votes (Knuckles) and say she won't vote for Blade because it seems off despite implicitly accepting the evidence that implicates Blade. Of course, all that falls down that I'm voting Knuckles before Blade, so yeah. But, as I see it, the debate is now between Blade and Gub. Gub is on 5, Blade on 6. No lynch is far worse than a lynch, so I'll take part in this. Gub seems scummy as hell, but there's no direct evidence on him only a lot of questions that aren't being answered. Blade seems less scummy but Noble has hard evidence on him. This hard evidence, however, has been answered (either with truth or lies) by Blade and his claim to be framed/bused/etc. As Blade can at least attempt to answer his questions and Gub can't (which negates the evidence, in my mind): Vote: GubayamaThat should level it at 6/6. Anyone still not voting should really come in and pick. I'm assuming Chaz - who has been posting - is perhaps a hammer as he hasn't voted yet. We're not going to get anything from AC it seems. Gub isn't going to vote for himself. That leaves TMarv to go back to his original Gub vote (yeah, I know I slammed you just now for it - consider it all in jest ) to bring it to hammering-range.
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Post by SalTal on Apr 16, 2012 23:29:36 GMT -4
Wow, you guys have been busy! At about page 12, I figured I'd be coming to a Blade lynch, but so many people have backed off it. I find TMarv pretty scummy in all this. He votes for Gub when Blade is near lynching and Bub no where near it. Then, when pushed to get involved in the actually lynch debate (of Blade and Knuckles) he votes for the person with less votes (Knuckles) and say she won't vote for Blade because it seems off despite implicitly accepting the evidence that implicates Blade. Of course, all that falls down that I'm voting Knuckles before Blade, so yeah. But, as I see it, the debate is now between Blade and Gub. Gub is on 5, Blade on 6. No lynch is far worse than a lynch, so I'll take part in this. Gub seems scummy as hell, but there's no direct evidence on him only a lot of questions that aren't being answered. Blade seems less scummy but Noble has hard evidence on him. This hard evidence, however, has been answered (either with truth or lies) by Blade and his claim to be framed/bused/etc. As Blade can at least attempt to answer his questions and Gub can't (which negates the evidence, in my mind): Vote: GubayamaThat should level it at 6/6. Anyone still not voting should really come in and pick. I'm assuming Chaz - who has been posting - is perhaps a hammer as he hasn't voted yet. We're not going to get anything from AC it seems. Gub isn't going to vote for himself. That leaves TMarv to go back to his original Gub vote (yeah, I know I slammed you just now for it - consider it all in jest ) to bring it to hammering-range. Sorry, that should read: Unvote: KnucklesVote: Gubayama
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Post by Gubayama Takagi on Apr 16, 2012 23:35:54 GMT -4
I want to lynch you so bad, and I know I'm blowing the game if I let you slip away and you're guilty. There's just something about this Gubayama lynch that feels off as well. I can't quite put my finger on it, but it feels so much like a diversion. It is a diversion. JamesV, Jeff and Chaz Dillinger are probably mafia, too. Aside from this Knuckles/Blade stuff. I'm gonna go out on a limb here and throw those names out in case I do get lynched, because I guarantee I come up Town. I'll be going to sleep now.
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Post by C.J. Gates on Apr 16, 2012 23:44:47 GMT -4
Gub's scuminess comes mostly because of what happened day one. He didn't post, saying he was gone most of the later portion of the day, and says he didn't get his role before then. Level One says he sent the role again an hour into the game. Gub wasn't modkilled and that could be because Level One didn't want to end the day in a modkill/didn't prod him, or Gub was active in a QT and therefore still active.
Is he a better lynch then Blade or Knuckles?
Some of you think so. I will agree that ending the day in a no lynch isn't a good idea, and that means it comes down to Gub or Blade. One we have information on that says Blade was bitten. If anyone knows of a role that involves someone being bitten that doesn't end up having someone converted (when the others are a different color), say it, because that might help.
As for right now, I'm going to leave my vote on Blade.
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Post by Level-Two on Apr 16, 2012 23:59:58 GMT -4
Kelly Bailey: It's not Jesus, it's some dickhead with a few superpowers! Current vote count:
Blade: 6 (Keaton Saint, Kris, Farquhar, Johnny Rebel, CJ Gates, Gubayama) Gubayama: 6 (Knuckles, Jason Royce, Blade, President Jeff, JamesV, Sally Talfourd) Knuckles: 1 (T-Marv)Not voting: Chaz Dillinger, AC smith, Kurt Noble With 16 alive it takes 9 votes to lynch. Deadline @ Tuesday 8:00 PM EST
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Post by T-Marv on Apr 17, 2012 0:21:49 GMT -4
Wow, you guys have been busy! At about page 12, I figured I'd be coming to a Blade lynch, but so many people have backed off it. I find TMarv pretty scummy in all this. He votes for Gub when Blade is near lynching and Bub no where near it. Then, when pushed to get involved in the actually lynch debate (of Blade and Knuckles) he votes for the person with less votes (Knuckles) and say she won't vote for Blade because it seems off despite implicitly accepting the evidence that implicates Blade. Of course, all that falls down that I'm voting Knuckles before Blade, so yeah. But, as I see it, the debate is now between Blade and Gub. Gub is on 5, Blade on 6. No lynch is far worse than a lynch, so I'll take part in this. Gub seems scummy as hell, but there's no direct evidence on him only a lot of questions that aren't being answered. Blade seems less scummy but Noble has hard evidence on him. This hard evidence, however, has been answered (either with truth or lies) by Blade and his claim to be framed/bused/etc. As Blade can at least attempt to answer his questions and Gub can't (which negates the evidence, in my mind): Vote: GubayamaThat should level it at 6/6. Anyone still not voting should really come in and pick. I'm assuming Chaz - who has been posting - is perhaps a hammer as he hasn't voted yet. We're not going to get anything from AC it seems. Gub isn't going to vote for himself. That leaves TMarv to go back to his original Gub vote (yeah, I know I slammed you just now for it - consider it all in jest ) to bring it to hammering-range. Think it's scummy if you want to... I Figured the choice for todays lynch was between Knuckles and Blade since nobody was hopping on the Gub bandwagon. I don't think Blade is scum... All the evidence that has been "shown" is all pretty thin. I just had a bad feeling about the Blade lynch. That said, I thought Gub was the scummiest lynch and will go back over there. Sorry if this is flip flopping but he was my original vote. Vote: Gubayama
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Post by SalTal on Apr 17, 2012 3:31:58 GMT -4
Can't be bothered going back to the post, but ...
Kurt: My mistake about what I said to CJ that you said it was unsuccessful. I got confused with Knuckles and is claim that it was unsuccessful.
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Post by Jules on Apr 17, 2012 6:16:00 GMT -4
Credit to the anti-town players out there, they have really done a number during this day to stall, distract and basically force a three-way deadlock.
Reading between the lines of today's play, I definitely think there is a mafia faction (someone suggested somewhere there may be none), and I have a fair idea of who I think that faction consists of, but that is for another time maybe.
I'm not going to change my vote for the simple reason that I am taking Noble's info in good faith. He isn't Branden Harvey and I just cannot see why he would put out the info he did so early if it was a blatant lie. The Blade or Knuckles lynch is the only lynch that would take the town forward with any information and day 3 leads. If Noble is right we can trust his info while he is alive; if he is wrong we look at him on day 3 or we entertain the possibility of a framer or a bus driver.
Gubayama looks like scum of some description, but that lynch is a complete red herring atm and the people on that lynch are looking scummiest to me right now. I'm not saying everyone on that lynch is anti-town, but some of you definitely are.
I'm sticking with my vote on principle. I trust Noble, and while I feel less certain of Blade's guilt than I did before, there remains a heck of a lot of doubt, the whole role-claim business added nothing in the end, and Blade still hasn't provided a single shred of solid evidence to contradict the notion he could be the cult recruiter (in light of Noble's evidence). All of his attempts have been unconvincing, or inconclusive (the role-hint/claim), or resorted to some desperate tactics.
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