LA Noire Mafia Fallout Thread

[Kurt]

Hey guys! Before I post any of the Fallout, I just wanted to make a couple of quick notes about the game.

First off, I LOVED how active you all were. You all moved the game at such a speedy, yet well developed pace, and I tried to mirror your enthusiasm by never delaying write-ups or keeping night phases longer than necessary. I believe there were two day phases that reached a full 72 hours, and that was it...most were less than one full day! But, we reached the 2nd longest Mafia game post-wise, and I'd love to thank people for their activity. You know who you are!

This game was designed around confusion. There was meant to be a LOT of information moving around, and as you saw/will see, not all of it was true. I felt at first like I hurt the game too much in terms of investigative roles, but maybe you'll feel differently after seeing everything laid out. What's surprising is that the Mafia was a hair from winning, and literally one different move could have won it for them. The game ended up being well balanced, but I do want to address something...

I originally wasn't happy with some of the little rule-breaking here and there. Post-editing, night-talking, quoting PM's, the character claim...at one point, I was even accused of editing someone's posts...which I don't have the power to do. I realize it was all little stuff, but it did at up...but only at first. About Day 4, all that stuff got ironed out and the game went smoothly. Thanks to everyone that followed the rules, and thanks to those that quickly adjusted to them after breaking one!

I've rambled on for long enough, but I want to ask that everyone fill out a short survey at the end. It's basically the same as the survey I ended my last game with. This is only my second modded game, and I hope to mod more in the future, so let me know how I can improve. I ask that you don't post until you see the survey.

So...enjoy the Fallout!

[Kurt]

Town Roles

(Bacon)

You are Detective Cole Phelps. Your heroic actions during WWII paved your way into becoming one of LAPD’s finest detectives. You’ve handled cases ranging from Traffic to Arson, and your time spent solving cases has given you keen deductive skills. Coupled with your savy-skills as s soldier, you have become an incredibly competent detective. However, where you shine best is your skills as an interrogator, and you may be the key to solving the “Noble Burial” Case.

You are a lie detector. Every night, you may PM me one sentence from one player. It may be from any day, but it must be one sentence. From me, you will receive one of three assessments about that statement:

Truth – The statement is true. There is no reason to be suspicious of this statement.

Doubt – This statement is not necessarily true or false. It may be ambiguous, but it may also be that this person is purposefully misconstruing information. It may also be that this person does not know what they are saying is incorrect. Essentially, if you get this reading, you have cause to be alarmed.

Lie – This statement is purposefully false. The person making this statement has made it knowing that it was not true.

I will do my best to give you the most effective reading of this statement. Your secondary ability is being bulletproof, meaning you will survive one, and only one attempt on your life at night-time. Lastly, because you are so well-versed in working with a partner, if you and any other town LAPD detective investigate the same player on one night, their entire role will be revealed to you both.

Win Condition: You win with the town when all threats have been eliminated, closing "Noble Burial" case.

Role Summary: Bulletproof Town Lie Detector

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(Johnny Rebel)

You are Traffic Detective Stefan Bekowsky. You have been a traffic detective for six years, and have shown to be fairly adequate at your job. However, you are known as a “pushover” to some, and aren’t exactly known as Traffic’s hardest working detective. You have tended to rely on the instincts of your partner in the past, but with the case of a lifetime at your feet, it’s time to see if you can step up to the plate.

More on your character: lanoire.wikia.com/wiki/Stefan_Bekowsky

You are a cop. Each night, you may send me the name of one player. I will tell you whether or not that player is innocent or guilty. Also, if you and Cole Phelps both investigate the same player on a given night, you will both be told that player’s full role.

Win Condition: You win with the town when all threats have been eliminated, closing the "Noble Burial" case.

Role Summary: Town Cop

(Mod Note: Is Naïve)

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(President Jeff)

You are Homicide Detective Rusty Galloway. You are a veteran member of the LAPD, although your most recent years in Homicide have not been kind to you. Your alcoholism and laziness have given you a sour reputation as a cop, and your paranoia towards women hasn’t fared well in any of your previous three marriages. However, you have a chance to erase all your blunders with this case.

More on your character: lanoire.wikia.com/wiki/Rusty_Galloway

You are a cop. Each night, you may send me the name of one player. I will tell you whether or not that player is innocent or guilty. Also, if you and Cole Phelps both investigate the same player on a given night, you will both be told that player’s full role.

Win Condition: You win with the town when all threats have been eliminated, closing the "Noble Burial" case.

Role Summary: Town Cop

(Mod Note: Is Paranoid)

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(Kaji Fireson)

You are Arson Detective Herschel Biggs. You are well-known in the LAPD as a lone detective, often-time refusing to take on partners in your investigations. You have avoided the department to avoid the corruption that has followed it. However, this has also labeled you as a “social basket case,” but regardless, you’re good at your job and may be the cop to listen to on this case.

More on your character: lanoire.wikia.com/wiki/Herschel_Biggs

You are a cop. Each night, you may send me the name of one player. I will tell you whether or not that player is innocent or guilty. Also, if you and Cole Phelps both investigate the same player on a given night, you will both be told that player’s full role.

Win Condition: You win with the town when all threats have been eliminated, closing the "Noble Burial" case.

Role Summary: Town Cop

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(Tmarv)

You are LAPD Coroner Malcolm Carruthers. Your position in the LAPD has left you more closely associated with death than any other. You are incredibly knowledgeable, oftentimes giving insights about the time of death, cause of death, and many of crucial investigation details. You’re a no-nonsense kind of guy, and your ability to detail dead bodies may help the LAPD right to the killers in this case.

More on your character: lanoire.wikia.com/wiki/Malcolm_Carruthers

You are a watcher. Every night, you may watch one other player and see who targeted them. You will only be given the name of the player that targeted them, not their role or the reason for their visit.

Win Condition: You win with the town when all threats have been eliminated, closing the "Noble Burial" case.

Role Summary: Town Watcher

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(Level-One)

You are LAPD Vice Detective Roy Earle. You are Vice’s most noteworthy detective, but perhaps not for all the right reasons. You often make compromises with the men that you are supposed to put away, you react violently towards others, and your attitude towards your other detectives is nothing short of disrespect. While you may clash with the LAPD over the procedure in which cases are handled, you are still dedicated to finding the killers of this case…for now.

More on your character: lanoire.wikia.com/wiki/Roy_Earle

You are a cop. Each night, you may send me the name of one player. I will tell you whether or not that player is innocent or guilty. Also, if you and Cole Phelps both investigate the same player on a given night, you will both be told that player’s full role.

Win Condition: You win with the town when all threats have been eliminated, closing the "Noble Burial" case.

Role Summary: Town Cop

(Mod Note: Is Insane)

(Mod Note #2: Is Recruitable via Dr. Harlan Fontaine; Becomes Mafia Cop if recruited)

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(Phil Atken)

You are Courtney Sheldon. Despite spending the last few years fighting in World War II, you became repulsed by the lack of respect that soldiers received upon returning home. That’s what prompted you to steal thousands of dollars-worth of army-grade morphine. In an attempt to make a profit, you have gained some very shady allies, and your thievery may be a deciding factor in the "Noble Burial" case...

You are a thief/snooper. Every night, you may visit another player and learn the item that is in their hand. The items you see are varied, but they share a common theme: you may “borrow” them. If you visit a player with a night action, you gain a one-time ability to use that night action at a later point in time. That person still retains their ability, however. These abilities may stack, but cannot be used on the same night that you are attempting to steal. Essentially, you may steal or use an ability on a given night.

Win Condition: You win with the town when all threats have been eliminated, closing the "Noble Burial" case.

Role Summary: Town Thief/Snoop

(Mod Note: Is Recruitable via Dr.Harlan Fontaine; Becomes Mafia Goon if recruited)

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(Anthony Bailey)

You are Jack Kelso. Like many others in the "Noble Burial" case, you have experience fighting in the war, having been a former Marine. Your abilities allowed you to gain a job as a Claims Investigator as California Life and Fire. However, your cunning extends past the desk and into the real world. You may not be the closest friend of Cole Phelps of the LAPD, but your skills as an investigator allow you to cross into boundaries that others cannot…

More on your character: lanoire.wikia.com/wiki/Jack_Kelso

You are a Journalist. Every night, you may target a player and see any messages that are sent to them. They may range from investigation results, to learning if a night skill of theirs was successful…you may even learn if the person you targeted successfully killed someone during the night. What you do with these posts is up to you, but you may never quote them. You may, however, relay them in your own words.

Win Condition: You win with the town when all threats have been eliminated, closing the "Noble Burial" case.

Role Summary: Town Journalist

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(Knuckles)

You are Elsa Lichtman, singer for The Blue Room. Having escape from Nazi Germany, you find yourself in the Land of Opportunity. However, you’ve seen its dark sides as well: drug abuse and corruption flood the club that you sing. However, your amazing vocals skills and beauty cause many to flock to you during the night, and if needed be, you may be the one to lure out the killers in the "Noble Burial" case...

More on your character: lanoire.wikia.com/wiki/Elsa_Lichtman

You have two options during the night. You may either roleblock one other player during the night, or draw one player towards you by targeting them. However, there is a consequence for your distracting talents: If you visit Cole Phelps, or have him visit you whether by your choice or his…he will lose his abilities. After all, Phelps is a married man, and the LAPD cannot afford such a scandal!

You win with the town when all threats have been eliminated, closing the "Noble Burial" case.

Role Summary: Town Roleblocker/Lightning Rod

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(Blade)

You are LAPD Homicide Captain James Donnelly. You are known for your brutal methods in reigning in criminals, and thus, have gained a tremendous amount of respect in the LAPD. Thus, you’ve gained a tremendous amount of responsibilities, as it’s your job to bring down the killerss in the "Noble Burial" Case. Because you control the task force assigned to the case, you control who investigates what.

More on your character: lanoire.wikia.com/wiki/James_Donnelly

You are a bus driver. Each night, you may select two people, Person A and Person B…and whatever actions would happen to each are switched! Here is an example:

Person A is going to be roleblocked.
Person B is going to be killed.

You switch the two.

Person A is now going to be killed.
Person B is now going to be roleblocked.

You have a tremendous amount of power in determining what happens in the night, and can cause confusion and chaos all in one night...or turn the killers against themselves!

Win Condition: You win with the town when all threats have been eliminated, closing the Noble Burial case.

Role Summary: Town Bus Driver

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(Sally)

You are Assistant DA Leonard Peterson. You have made a career out of attempting to end corruption in LA and the LAPD. You protect some of the city’s most powerful, while attempting to shut down others. You’ve been assigned to protect the LAPD task force on the Noble Burial Case, but in an effort to bring down the killers, it’s up to you who determine who needs protecting…

More on your character: lanoire.wikia.com/wiki/Leonard_Petersen

You are a doctor. Once per night, you may protect another player from being investigated, blocked, or killed. Consider it an absolute defense, opposed to being a regular doctor. You may not protect yourself. However, your protective powers come with a price. If you protect a Mafia player, you will appear as Mafia under an investigation that night and any night until you protect a town player. If you protect a town player, you will be perceived as town until you protect a mafia player. Essentially, you take on the perceived alignment of whoever you protect.

Win Condition: You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated, closing the "Noble Burial" case.

Role Summary: Town Miller/Doctor

[Kurt]

Mafia/Third Party Roles

(Callahan)

You are Leland Monroe, CEO of Elysian Fields Development and leader of the Suburban Redevelopment Fund. While your actions may seem to be working towards building new homes for returning GI’s, there is a much more sinister plot unfolding under your palm: Controlling the city of LA. This has meant aligning with powerful people, and working to eliminate the special task force investigating the death of journalist Curtis Noble. It’s up to you to make sure that you and the other SRF members make it through the next few days without being arrested…or worse…

More on your character: lanoire.wikia.com/wiki/Leland_Monroe

You are the Godfather. Each night, you send me the name of one player to be killed. You also have considerable influence due to your wealth and connections. You cannot be tracked or investigated at night (amendment: you come up innocent). If you are killed, it is up to you to determine who in the SRF gains the Godfather ability (just the killing).

Win Condition: You win when all threats to the Suburban Redevelopment Fund have been eliminated. Your SRF affiliates are Farquhar and Gates.

Mafia QT: www.quicktopic.com/47/H/J94MeRGDqHt

Role Summary: Mafia Godfather

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(CJ Gates)

You are Dr. Harlan Fontaine, associate of the Suburban Redevelopment Fund. You are a clinical Psychiatrist, and have used your position to manipulate others into doing your cruel and merciless tasks. You are not above killing, but prefer to use your underlings to do your bidding. It is up to you to make sure the SRF stays strong…and that means getting others to do your dirty work.

More on your character: lanoire.wikia.com/wiki/Dr._Harlan_Fontaine

You are a Recruiter. Each night, you will visit a player and attempt to recruit them. There are two recruitable players in this game, although their roles and names are unknown to you. If you attempt to recruit a non-recruitable player, they will be told that you visited them, but will not be told why or what your role is. However, know that there are also two players in this game that will kill you should you attempt to recruit them. They are Cole Phelps and…well, you know the second one all too well.

Win Condition: You win when all threats to the Suburban Redevelopment Fund have been eliminated. Your SRF affiliates are Callahan and Farquhar.

Mafia QT: www.quicktopic.com/47/H/J94MeRGDqHt

Role Summary: Mafia Recruiter

(Mod Note: Will be killed if attempts to recruit JamesV or Bacon)

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(Farquhar)

You are LAPD Chief of Police William Worrell. Although you may control the LAPD, you are without a doubt corrupt. You intend to profit from the Suburban Redevelopment Fund, even at the expense of the LAPD themselves. While you cannot stop the task force investigating the death of Curtis Noble, you can control the flow of information in an attempt to lead the LAPD on the wrong path…

More on your character: lanoire.wikia.com/wiki/William_Worrell

You are an Informant. Each night, you may target a player and be given any information they receive that night. This includes learning if their night skills were successful or not. You also have a one-time ability to block someone from receiving their information. Because you are the Police Chief, you can only make so much noise…

Win Condition: You win when all threats to the Suburban Redevelopment Fund have been eliminated. Your SRF affiliates are Callahan and Gates.

Mafia QT: www.quicktopic.com/47/H/J94MeRGDqHt

Role Summary: Mafia Informant/One-shot Roleblocker

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(JamesV)

You are Ira Hogeboom. While others gained fame and acclaim from their actions during WWII…you gained only immense grief and post-traumatic stress after setting a makeshift Japanese hospital ablaze. Since returning home, you have attempted to return to a normal life…but your experiences handling the flamethrower have left you with an insatiable urge for fire as well as a desire to atone for your sins. The Noble Burial Case is going to give you both.

More on your character: lanoire.wikia.com/wiki/Ira_Hogeboom

Each night, you may douse another player in gasoline. They will be notified that they’ve been doused, but there’s nothing they can do to remove the gas from themselves. You can choose to douse a different player each night. When you feel you’ve doused enough players (be it 1, 3, 4, however many), you may light a match…and set them all ablaze, killing them instantly. There is no limit as to how many times you may repeat this process, but you may not light a match and douse a player on the same night.

You win when you’ve killed the two men that made your life Hell: Dr. Harlan Fontaine…and Cole Phelps.

QT: www.quicktopic.com/47/H/qM2ZvmkkKjZpR

Role Summary: Third-Party Arsonist

[Kurt]

Game Timeline

Mod Note: Day 1 was funny. Closest Day 1 lynch...on two occasions...that I've ever seen, ha. Should make for a crazy day 2.

Christ, that bussing is going to cause SO much confusion day 2. It may have saved Callahan, but also roleblocked him. Blade's revealing of his bus-driving might help clear up the night phase, but with the cops/Atken getting misdirected, it'll make for one Hell of an odd day. I wish more people had sent in night actions since everyone had the ability to, but that's that. Only hurts the town.

Night 1 Actions:

Jeff investigates himself (Due to bussed and paranoid status, gets guilty read from Callahan)
Tmarv watches Level-One (sees Farq visit L1)
Kaji investigates himself (gets innocent verdict because he is sane)
Knuckles roleblocks Jeff (Due to bussed status, he roleblocks Callahan)
Atken snoops Callahan (Due to bussed status, he snoops Jeff and gains Paranoid investigative ability)
L1 investigates Callahan (Due to insane and bussed status, investigates Jeff and gets guilty read)
Blade buses Callahan and Jeff.
JamesV douses Farquhar in gasoline.
Farquhar sees L1's info (sees the guilty read)
Callahan targets Tmarv for death (is blocked)
Gates targets Kaji for recruitment (is not recruitable)
Sally does nothing.
Bailey does nothing.
Bacon does nothing.
Rebel does nothing.

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Day 2:

Bacon was modkilled after claiming Cole Phelps.

Mod Note:

Well that blows. The town's single most powerful role is out the window. The bussing has caused a lot of confusion, but it was never brought to fruition because of the early modkill. Hopefully we'll see longer day phases, ha.

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Night 2:

Callahan does not kill.
Gates targets L1 for recruitment (successful)
Farquhar sees Atken's info.
Atken snoops Bailey (Sees Journalism notepad and gains one-shot journalism power)
Rebel investigates Callahan (gets inconclusive due to shield by Sally)
Knuckles roleblocks Jeff.
Level-One investigates Callahan (gets inconclusive due to shield)
Kaji investigates Callahan and gets inconlusive due to Sally's shield.
Tmarv watches Knuckles (no one visits)
Jeff investigates Bailey but gets blocked.
Sally protects Callahan, becomes "guilty" aligned for Night 2.
JamesV douses no one.
Blade buses Kaji and Sally.
Bailey does nothing.

Mod Note: I see tonight is "lay low" night for the killers. Callahan getting shielded may be an issue, but I think basically everyone has gotten a different Callahan read, ha. I expect an interesting Day 3 with a definite lynch.

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Day 3:

Callahan is lynched.

Mod-Note: Not surprised. I think he was bound to be lynched sooner or later. Most of his team lied low though, so we'll see who emerges as the new target. It seems like most everyone has outed themselves, so now the Mafia need cover-stories. I'm hoping to see them throw some info out into the game, but we'll see!

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Night 3:

Tmarv watches Knuckles (blocked)
Jeff investigates Bailey (gets guilty read due to Paranoid status).
Sally shields Knuckles (shield Atken due to bussed status).
Blade busses Atken and Knuckles.
Kaji investigates CJ (gets guilty).
Knuckles roleblocks Rebel.
Farquhar gets JamesV's info.
Farquhar also uses his one-time roleblock on Tmarv.
L1 kills Blade.
CJ attempts to recruit Sally.
JamesV douses Bailey.
Atken uses his one-shot journalism ability on L1.
Bailey uses his journalism ability on JamesV.
Rebel investigates L1 (blocked)

Mod Note: Non-town totally got dominated this night. Kaji caught CJ, Atken is getting L1's info, and Bailey is getting JamesV's. With so many different targets...who faces the lynch on the next day phase? Gonna be such a conflict filled day, and with there being 8 town and 4 non-town, they'll need basically every vote to get someone down!

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Day 4:

JamesV is lynched.

Mod Note: Not surprised by this one. Both the town and mafia had info on James, making him the mutual target. Kaji not revealing his info is going to cause a lot of problems later on. L1 is in trouble. Gates will probably get looked at soon. Farq...should be in the clear for a while. Not a great day for the mafia, but they've still got a solid 3 base to work with.

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Night 4:

Knuckles roleblocks L1.
Jeff investigates L1 (gets guilty read due to Paranoid status).
Sally protects Knuckles.
Atken snoops Knuckles (gets inconclusive due to Sally's shield).
Tmarv watches Farq (no one visits Farq)
Farq gets L1's info.
L1 investigates Sally (blocked).
Bailey gets L1's information.
Rebel investigates L1 (gets innocent due to Naive status)
CJ attempts to recruit Rebel (not recrtuitable)
Kaji does nothing.

Mod Note. Clever play by the Mafia. They're manipulating information well...this may actually be an evenly matched game, despite the Mafia's low number of kills. Expecting the town to be very divided over who L1 is, ha. Kaji might take a ton of heat today...we'll see!

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Day 5:

Level-One is lynched.

Mod Note: Seemed inevitable, although I expected Rebel/Bailey/etc. to make more noise in L1's defense. Clearly, Atken and Sally are driving the town. If those two are gone, I can't see the town winning this game.

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Night 5:

Atken snoops CJ Gates (cannot gain his ability).
Kaji investigates Rebel (gets Innocent reading)
Bailey sees Rebel's info (blocked)
Tmarv watches Farq.
Knuckles roleblocks Bailey.
Jeff investigates Tmarv (gets Paranoid reading)
Sally shields Atken.
Gates recruits Bailey (is not recruitable)
Farquhar kills Knuckles.
Rebel investigates himself (receives Innocent reading due to Naive status)

Mod Note: Solid night for the Mafia. This night really won't help the town at all, as they seem to be doubting one another's trust on Bailey. CJ is running out of people to recruit, and getting Atken at a late stage in the game could seal a victory.

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Day 6:

CJ Gates is lynched.

Mod-Note:

Had CJ been able to make it through this day phase and recruit Atken, the Mafia would have won this game...but with Farq left among 7 other townies, it's difficult to say he can win this one. But, he's totally under the radar...although that could be his downfall. We're on the home stretch, so we'll see how this one concludes!

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Night 6:

Kaji investigates Tmarv (gets innocent verdict)
Jeff investigates Rebel (gets guilty verdict due to Paranoid status)
Rebel investigates Sally (gets innocent due to Naive status)
Farq kills Tmarv.
Tmarv watches Farq.
Sally shields Farq.
Atken snoops Bailey.
Bailey does nothing.

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Day 7:

Bailey is lynched.

Mod-Note:

First town lynch of the game. Farq has blended amazingly well thus far; seems like everyone believes he's town. The quick lynch on Bailey shows just how quick the trigger finger of this town is now that there's one Mafia left. If Farq takes out Kaji and Atken...I think he'll win the game.

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Night 7:

Jeff investigates Sally (gets guilty due to Paranoid status)
Rebel investigates Jeff (gets innocent due to Naive status)
Kaji investigates Atken (gets inconclusive reading)
Atken uses his journalism ability on Rebel.
Sally protects Atken.
Farq kills Atken (protected)

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Day 8:

No-lynch.

Mod Note: Well that's surprising! And sucks for Farq.

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Night 8:

Farq kills Sally.
Sally shields Farq.
Atkens snoops Kaji.
Jeff investigates Atken. (gets guilty)
Kaji investigates Atken. (gets innocent)
Rebel investigates Kaji (gets innocent)
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Day 9:

Kaji is lynched.

Mod Note:

I CANNOT believe Farq pulled that off, ha. I mean, Kaji has played kinda scummy the whole game, but Farq really saved himself in this do or die situation. He's probably going to get lynched next day phase, but after his successful kill, he just needs 1 person to agree with him and he wins. It'll be difficult...but Farq has played like a Champion!

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Night 9:

Farq kills Atken.
Atken uses his one-shot investigate ability on Farq.
Rebel investigates Farq (gets innocent due to naive status)
Jeff investigates Farq (gets guilty due to Paraboid status)

Mod Note:

Down to the wire!

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Day 10:

Farq is lynched...Endgame!


QT's
Mafia: www.quicktopic.com/47/H/J94MeRGDqHt
Arsonist: www.quicktopic.com/47/H/qM2ZvmkkKjZpR
Victim: www.quicktopic.com/47/H/HFn5jszJeum7M
Mod: www.quicktopic.com/47/H/gGxidVb7aMg

[Kurt]

Winners

*I only mean winners and losers in terms of win conditions...you're all cool to me!*

Dead Losers:
CJ
Callahan
Level-One
Farquhar


Dead Winners:
Bacon
Atken
Sally
Knuckles
Tmarv
Bailey
Blade
Kaji
JamesV


Alive Winners:
Jeff
Rebel

Awards

Honorable Mention: Julius Farquhar
Literally the ONLY reason he doesn't get MVP is because the Mafia didn't win, and that's it. He played like a pro. He successfully was devoid of ANY suspicion until Day 8/9, and not only through gut feelings...no one ever even tried to investigate him until the end! He stuck it out longer after his team was dead, and managed to rally the town against one another, nearly coming out the victor when it came down to the final three. Quintessential Mafia here! Bud, you played amazingly!

MVP: Phil Atken
Talk about Mafia Hunter. He was directly responsible for bringing down both CJ and L1, and helped lead the brigade against Farq. His ability was extremely useful for the game, and the town would have have won without him. The funny thing? He could have easily become a Mafia player because he was recruitable! Nonetheless, he played a game great that won it for the town!

[Kurt]

Survey

Did you like the LA Noire theme, and did it help/hurt your interest in the game?

How were the write-ups, and did they help/hurt the game overall?

Were the town and mafia evenly balanced in terms of roles? Did you yourself feel your role was fair?

Did the game move quickly enough?

If you could change one aspect of how this game was modded, what would it be?

If you played SAW Mafia, was the quality of this game (roles, pace, modding, etc.) better or worse?

Overall impressions of LA Noire Mafia?




*Final Note: Thanks for playing, and if I messed anything up during the game (as the QT will show, I had a LOT to manage)...sorry!*

[Level-Two]

Skipping survey (for now)

Pretty epic battle with Atken's there, lol. I think I'm still going to get lynched because once a few votes are piled down, people tend to hop the bandwagon with most votes last minute.

Apparently, Bailey is a journalist like FARQ. Hopefully he was watching me and saw that my INVESTIGATION failed. This should be enough to get Jeff to back up off me.

I say recruit Phil Atken next day phase. If you get him on your side, HUGE mindfuck coming for the town. LOL!

*Cries*

If only you guys listened, lol. Still, great end game Farq. I am VERY impressed. You're an awesome player man.

Who kills CJ? It was Jeff right?

Anyways, survey coming when I have time to fill it out. This game was fun fun fun!

[Kaji Fireson]

I'm skipping the survey probably forever because I am too emotionally attached to this game to fill out your questionnaire.

I would like to thank everyone in the mafia for not killing me night one like you did in Kurt's last game, because this game was awesomesauce. Epicpants, even. It was a pleasure to have taken part.

Apparently I played scummy. I'm not sure how that is, as my thinking in the early/mid game was "keep head down so mafia wouldn't kill my ass." Perhaps outing myself as the sane one would have been valuable...but I just assumed that would make the mafia go KEEL HIM NAO

Personally, fuck winners and losers, Farq is the fuckin' MVP of this game. He made this a game to remember. Has an APW game gone to the wire like that before? Not that I know of.

Let me know when you mod again, Kurt, because I'm there. Maybe I can figure out how to not play scummy?

[Reaver]

since im the only decent guy here ill take ur survey.....



Did you like the LA Noire theme, and did it help/hurt your interest in the game?

-kinda, i never played the actual game but was very interesting to see so many cops with confusion LOL.

How were the write-ups, and did they help/hurt the game overall?

-love the write ups, always well detailed. KEEP IT UP!!

Were the town and mafia evenly balanced in terms of roles? Did you yourself feel your role was fair?

-i thought so. i didnt see myself lightning rodding anybody and just LOVED RB'ing everybody i felt was scum. maybe some kudos to me for being 1 of the leads towards lynching the GF? :-p

Did the game move quickly enough?

-was a lil slow, but thats cuz im an impatient fuck LOL

If you could change one aspect of how this game was modded, what would it be?

-paying u fulltime so u didnt have school or work to deal with lol. force ya to refresh the page every 10 minutes. :-p

If you played SAW Mafia, was the quality of this game (roles, pace, modding, etc.) better or worse?

-Saw was better.....im a SAW fan sue me

Overall impressions of LA Noire Mafia?

10/10 well played sir.


kudos to farq & atken and though i had suspicions, i was dead b4 i could make my case. GJ kurt!

[C.J. Gates]

Mar 26, 2012 22:46:25 GMT -4 Level-Two said:

*Cries*

If only you guys listened, lol. Still, great end game Farq. I am VERY impressed. You're an awesome player man.

Who kills CJ? It was Jeff right?

Anyways, survey coming when I have time to fill it out. This game was fun fun fun!

LOL I should have! Farq and I talked me out of going for Atken and had that happened, I wouldn't have gotten lynched (or at least Atken would have never targeted me).

Great game though, Noble. Thoroughly enjoyed it all the way through. Makes me want to play the game now lol

BIG HUGE PROPS to Farq. You, sir, gave us Mafiosos a real shot at this game. You blended in so well, got the lynch going on Kaji, and had they not suspected you, you MIGHT have been able to get Rebel. Would have been awesome. Also want to shout out to Callahan. To survive two days after NEARLY getting lynched day one is awesome. Definitely gave us a fighting chance, and luckily we found Level One early enough.

That ends my Mafia props lol

To the survey:

Did you like the LA Noire theme, and did it help/hurt your interest in the game?
-Loved it. Definitely had a great feel to it, and the way it was presented was great. As I said, now I want to play the game.

How were the write-ups, and did they help/hurt the game overall?
-I've always loved your write ups, Noble. They add so much to the game.

Were the town and mafia evenly balanced in terms of roles? Did you yourself feel your role was fair?
-Oddly enough, I think things were fairly even. I got a bit irked at Atken because he seemed to be pegging everyone off left right and center, but I'm thinking that was more luck of who he was targeting. Had I actually listened to L1, I'd be singing a different tune lol

Did the game move quickly enough?
-Definitely did. There were some dead spots, but that's like normal.

If you could change one aspect of how this game was modded, what would it be?
-That the mafia would win. Seriously.

If you played SAW Mafia, was the quality of this game (roles, pace, modding, etc.) better or worse?
-I think I enjoyed SAW better, but the length of this one was better in the end. SAW ended quickly after the infamous Rebel gambit.

Overall impressions of LA Noire Mafia?
-Awesome.

Great game Noble!

[Jules]

Unsurprisingly I had a ball during this game. Definitely my favourite mafia game so far.

I am still a bit amazed I managed to get so close, although if you look at the mafia QT I never really believed I would press home the win.

I think if we (the mafia) had started a bit better we could have won this game. We had a couple of strokes of luck go against us: Callahan's trigger-finger setting eyes of suspicion on him, L-1 being caught so soon after C.J. recruited him, a couple of good town plays to prevent our night kills.

A few shout outs:

- Noble for modding a really good game.
- Sally and Atken for some really keen detective work in this one.
- Callahan for some excellent flavour research that C.J. and I didn't pay enough attention to, much to our detriment because we wrote off Atken as recruitable, when the flavour research made it obvious the arsonist would have killed C.J. (This to me was the fatal flaw in our gameplay)
- L-1 made a huge impact when he into the mafia, he is a great organiser and if he had not been found out so quickly we may have been in the money.
- C.J. was a thoughtful presence throughout, always offering timely alternatives or counterpoints to some of the theorizing.

I really enjoyed playing with all my scum mates, and loved the challenge of trying to defeat the town all on my own. Alas, it wasn't to be.

Now for the survey

Did you like the LA Noire theme, and did it help/hurt your interest in the game?
- It was a great game. Loved the theme, the roles, the write-ups, everything.

How were the write-ups, and did they help/hurt the game overall?
- They were excellent. I'm never too sure on how reliable these are, but they add some flavour to the game either way.

Were the town and mafia evenly balanced in terms of roles? Did you yourself feel your role was fair?
- I think so, especially with the capacity to recruit two members.

Did the game move quickly enough?
- Yes, I thought the activity was a lot better than other games I've played.

If you could change one aspect of how this game was modded, what would it be?
- Give me a one-shot kill, we would have won in the end.

If you played SAW Mafia, was the quality of this game (roles, pace, modding, etc.) better or worse?
- I didn't play SAW mafia

Overall impressions of LA Noire Mafia?
- I thoroughly enjoyed this game. Well done to Noble for modding it, and everyone who participated.

[SalTal]

I love the insider's notes that you put in there, Kurt. Very well done. I always like seeing what the mod has to say, being able to see it all.

Watching all the actions happen, there's a few flukes' that, really, put the town in a good place. Those first few nights where key people happened to see people. If Atken got converted, the town would be shot. He was key to some of the information that helped sell a lot of us on lynches.

I was worried that I had given away that I was the doctor early on when I kept insisting that Bacon hadn't been saved by a doctor. I kept on and on, and all the while scummy CJ is one of the people I'm pushing it back to. I was glad to get real far in the game.

Farq, you really did do amazing. never suspected you until towards the end, but never really more than anyone else at that stage. Lester, your last-ditch efforts to stay alive were infuriating haha! I was so mad because you had flat-out lied about things I had said, even completely inventing things! I assume you were hoping no one was going to go back and try and find what you were saying, so it seemed like a pretty good gamble.

As for the survey:

Did you like the LA Noire theme, and did it help/hurt your interest in the game?
Loved it. Have no idea what LA Noire even is (a game, right?) but the fact that there were so many cops (with different variations) opposed to a really good killing opposition was fun.

How were the write-ups, and did they help/hurt the game overall?
You could probably tell that I loved the write ups because they gave away a bunch of clues. I loved trawling through them time and time again to get an extra few snippets of information.

Were the town and mafia evenly balanced in terms of roles? Did you yourself feel your role was fair?
Maybe the town was given too much power, but if Atken had been recruited or something of the like, I could easily be saying that the mafia had too much power. So, yeah, it probably was evenly balanced.

Did the game move quickly enough?
Perfect speed.

If you could change one aspect of how this game was modded, what would it be?
Can't say I can think of anything.

If you played SAW Mafia, was the quality of this game (roles, pace, modding, etc.) better or worse?
Didn't play SAW Mafia.

Overall impressions of LA Noire Mafia?
Loved it. Want to keep on playing it!

[Michael Callahan]

Did you like the LA Noire theme, and did it help/hurt your interest in the game?
Loved it to death. The game is probably the most original thing to come out of the market in the last four years. Fantastic setting for a Mafia game. My only confusion was the fact that you put the Assisstant DA as the doctor and Carruthers as a Tracker, even though he's got an MD.

How were the write-ups, and did they help/hurt the game overall?
I liked the fact that the write-ups were important in the logical discussion side of the game. When I saw Kaji saying stuff like "We shouldn't read too much into the flavour", it bugged me a little because I figure if you're going to go to the effort of doing write-ups and applying a theme and everything then the actions in the write-up should bare relevance to what actually happened right?

Were the town and mafia evenly balanced in terms of roles? Did you yourself feel your role was fair?
I think the Town was overpowered quite substantially but some amazing power play by Farq and the Gang were able to negate this.

Did the game move quickly enough?
Rapido. It was almost too fast for me to catch up with.

If you could change one aspect of how this game was modded, what would it be?
^ Earlier Carruthers note, but that's more of a stylistic thing than anything.

If you played SAW Mafia, was the quality of this game (roles, pace, modding, etc.) better or worse?
N/A.

Overall impressions of LA Noire Mafia?
10/10. Would read again.

[Phil Atken]

I was getting there with Farq towards the end when I started to ponder how he had become confirmed town in Jeff's book in the first place but Farq did a great job blending in and with everyone just lunging in paranoia after the CJ lynch, blending in was the ideal strategy.

Did you like the LA Noire theme, and did it help/hurt your interest in the game?
Never having played the game myself but with an interest in playing it, this game has finally made me want to crack open the copy that's been sitting near my Xbox for the better part of six months.

How were the write-ups, and did they help/hurt the game overall?
Excellently written, don't think they gave anything away, hell looking at the mafia QT, they were even reading too much into them and starting being concerned about recruiting me. It amazes me that if that QT is right, they talked themselves out of it three times in a row.


Were the town and mafia evenly balanced in terms of roles? Did you yourself feel your role was fair?
This is where I completely disagree with Callahan. This game was incredibly balanced. What people miss when they see 'investigation role' is the fact that the town had 4 (3 after a recruitment) cops in the game and eventually that is going to lead to bad investigation information and mis-trust. Hell, if I didn't suspect L-1 when I suspect L-1, he would have had a barrage of people disputing the information they had on them.

No offense to Jeff and Rebel but they didn't want to believe they were ineffectual and were actually handing out bad information to the town due to that. At one point Jeff was talking about his town results when there were no such results from him.

Not to mention recruitments happening at the right time would've easily swung this game to the mafia no problem. If a game can swing on one move, that isn't unbalanced, that is ideally balanced.

L-1 and CJ got pegged more or less merely because they were suspicious to me in their handling of the votes and only then because I got lucky gaining Bailey's power the first time around and decided to use it when L-1 had the kill. In CJ's case it was due to him being really sketchy voting for L-1.

So yeah, lot of words but I think to bemoan a powerful town is to miss how many things could have went wrong for the town from just a few different night actions.

Did the game move quickly enough?
It certainly did.

If you could change one aspect of how this game was modded, what would it be?
Honestly Noble, I felt this one was pretty damn smooth, didn't really see any issues with its running.

If you played SAW Mafia, was the quality of this game (roles, pace, modding, etc.) better or worse?
I don't know, I think I liked this one more because in a way, it made for the more intriguing game. With the insane Rebel gambit in SAW mafia, there was something very ho-hum about it towards to end for me and I never felt that way in this game. So much information was flying around and never getting properly sorted out.

Overall impressions of LA Noire Mafia?
Great job Noble.