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Post by biggs on Apr 29, 2012 23:07:26 GMT -4
Man freaking alive, I'm so angered right now about the finish to the Extreme Rules PPV. John Cena getting the win over Brock Lesnar was utter garbage! Another freakin' Superman comeback from John Cena, it practically made the money Vince spent on Brock worthless What's the point of having Brock utterly decimate him the entire match, what's the point of building Brock up as this huge monter if Cena can beat him with just one steel chain shot and an Attitude Adjustment onto the Steel Steps? This was utter garbage, complete crap! Jericho vs. Punk was amazing, but the finish to Lesnar vs. Cena ruined the entire gosh darn match! I'm even more angry than I was after last year's Over the Limit where The Miz beat Cena roughshod for 25 minutes, only to get locked into the STFU for less than 15 seconds and give up. Garbage!
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Post by Jesse Nuñez™ on Apr 29, 2012 23:08:28 GMT -4
YES! YES! YES! YES! YES!
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Post by biggs on Apr 29, 2012 23:11:26 GMT -4
Don't you dare use Daniel Bryan's chant to prop up John Cena! The match was awesome until the finish. What's worse is that Cena said at the end that he was taking some time off. Why the heck would you have him go over if he's going to be gone!?
I am sick and gosh darn tired of John Cena's freakin' Superman, come from out of nowhere, ruin the suspension of disbelief bullcrap wins! If there's a rematch, Brock should beat Cena's behind in 18 seconds!
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Post by Jesse Nuñez™ on Apr 29, 2012 23:15:06 GMT -4
But seriously it made sense. Brock still looks very dominant despite losing. He didn't need any weapons to bust Cena open and destroy him for most of the match. It took a steel chain and a FU on the steel steps in rapid succession to stop that monster. Brock got up confused as he didn't look like he realize what had just happened. More often than not Brock's next few matches won't have stipulations where his opponents wont be able to use weapons. So they will have a hard time beating him.
They had Cena lose to The Rock a few weeks ago! In fact he even lost to Lord Tensai or whatever the hell Albert calls himself nowadays. Cena is still the face of this company even when Brock leaves and he will leave again. You're not gonna completely burry your #1 guy for a man who can give two shits for this business.
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Post by Jesse Nuñez™ on Apr 29, 2012 23:15:51 GMT -4
Don't you dare use Daniel Bryan's chant to prop up John Cena! The match was awesome until the finish. What's worse is that Cena said at the end that he was taking some time off. Why the heck would you have him go over if he's going to be gone!?! But its cool for The Rock to do that?
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Post by Jake Venom on Apr 29, 2012 23:17:43 GMT -4
In the Death of Superman, Superman did beat Doomsday, but both he and Doomsday died at the same time. It's almost a poetic ending like that.
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Post by Jesse Nuñez™ on Apr 29, 2012 23:17:49 GMT -4
I think its also fair that Cena gets a break for a week or 2 to rest any injuries he might have and just rest his mind and take a break to enjoy his family. I mean he hasn't had a lot of those and people would enjoy not seeing him on tv for awhile anyways. So its a win win.
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Post by Slade "The Main Man" Craven on Apr 30, 2012 9:54:03 GMT -4
I honestly feel that Cena is a joke. He has very little wrestling knowledge, the only reason Vince keeps pushing him is ebcause the kids and young women LOVE him. At live events they have to mute the crowd and play looped cheers. At Wrestlemania it was obvious the fans detested him. Cena needed to turn heel a long time ago, when he joined the Nexus. (Think a right to censor heel turn for him, being brainwashed) it would have saved WWE alot of ratings losses. Im glad he is gone, if only for a few weeks.
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Post by Reaver on Apr 30, 2012 11:00:19 GMT -4
i think u all r missing bigg's point. its not the fact he won, it was the superman win. he gets OWNED all match to hit 2 moves at the end and win? its BS. if that was the direction it was gonna go, then it needed to be evened out more. maybe have him fight back harder, longer. people r just sick of cena winning like he was the incredible hulk. those days went out with hogan and is partially the reason WcW died.
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Post by Pepsi on Apr 30, 2012 11:42:12 GMT -4
i think u all r missing bigg's point. its not the fact he won, it was the superman win. he gets OWNED all match to hit 2 moves at the end and win? its BS. if that was the direction it was gonna go, then it needed to be evened out more. maybe have him fight back harder, longer. people r just sick of cena winning like he was the incredible hulk. those days went out with hogan and is partially the reason WcW died. I agree completely. Cena winning is no big deal. It's the fact that the match had him completely dismantled by Lesnar, but Lesnar couldn't beat him. 2 moves from Cena and Lesnar`s down for the count. That`s ridiculous and cheapens Lesnar. I agree that Cena deserves a break. I agree that after losing to Rock and putting Tensai over he needed a win, but if he was going to win the match should have been more competitive.
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Post by B.A. Styles on Apr 30, 2012 14:06:20 GMT -4
If it wasn't for the whole "Monday Night Raw Starring Brock Lesnar" crap then I would actually agree that Lesnar should of won.
But I do agree, with Mr Pepsi, that Cena needed to win somewhere since the children need do look up to him...and the last thing any child want is their idol/role model losing continuously.
Yet if WWE actually want Cena to be properly over, then they would did the whole superman idea and have him be competative with all opponents. Instead of having his ass kicked all over the place then two moves later he wins, why not have an even battle where at times it isn't so obvious who was going to win it?
Just saying...also I am miles more a Cena mark than a Lesnar mark,since Brock practically walked out of WWE for no good reason and Cena at least is loyal to the company. So sorry if I seem bais/bias (whatever its spelt, lol) but Brock's interview did put something in my head...
I do believe Cena is who he is now because Brock left. Brock was obviously going to main eventing and World Title holding after Wrestlemania XX but instead he decided to walk away without much warning, leaving the WWE with hardly much "active" big name heels on Smackdown...which led to the JBL character (whom I actually loved) showing up and holding the World Belt until WWE decided to give it over to Cena. If Brock stayed it would have been Lesnar vs Cena for the World Title at Wrestlemania XXI, not JBL vs Cena.
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Post by President Jeff on Apr 30, 2012 16:14:36 GMT -4
I didn't like the finish, but after thinking about it today, we really shouldn't be surprised. This is Vinces way to get back at Brock for how he left WWE 8 years ago, and also, a shot at the UFC basically saying "Your former World Heavyweight Champion is nothing compared to our #1 guy"
I would have been more ok with Cena winning, if Cena had more offence in. A Steel chain punch and then a AA onto the steel steps is what it takes to beat brock. It makes him look super weak compared to the other matches which used chairs and singapore canes. But I guess we're to think that a Steel Chain is the most deadliest weapon in the WWE now
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Post by Blade on Apr 30, 2012 18:34:17 GMT -4
You try taking a steel chain shot right between the eyes and tell me you wont be beaten after that?
Cena took punishment, but from what i can remember it was just a load of elbows, punches, kicks and a few over the top throws.
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Post by Jesse Nuñez™ on Apr 30, 2012 21:03:06 GMT -4
Brock only went for one or two covers. Its not like he went out of his way to win the match. The submission moves weren't applied necessarily to defeat Cena but to just hurt him. Thats all he wants to do back here in the WWE he made that clear in his promos.
If you're gonna say that it makes Brock look weak getting hit with "2" moves then what say you about Daniel Bryan and his kick to the face he received at Wrestlemania? 1 move. He shown obviously last night and other nights that he can take more punishment than a boot the face. But that night he couldn't just stand one move?
He was caught by surprise as he didn't think Sheamus would use his finisher so quick. Same with Brock last night. He was in complete control over the whole match. Cena had his hand with the steel chain hiding beside the ring when he was climbing back into the ring. Brock wasn't expecting it because he threw it out. In case you didn't notice he is not the smartest man in the world and easily could've forgotten where he threw it and forgot it was on Cena's side. When his momentum all 300lbs of it jump toward Cena and received a steel chain to the face it is going to hurt way more than a Singapore cane shot to the back when the guy is laying down. Plus the FU (AA) to the steel steps within the next minute and not taking much of a rest to finish Brock is logical to harm the man.
You also gotta remember in Brock's last fight in UFC he was done with a few rib shots within a minute. So I'm incline to believe a steel chain to the face from a punch with Brock's momentum flying towards said punch and steel steps to the back with his 300lbs landing on it can take out a Brock Lesnar.
The real thing that should've been done is not have Cena and Brock wrestle at the very next ppv after his debut! That was stupid. They needed to build it to say like a SummerSlam where both men gain victories or at least Brock gain victories before he goes to Cena.
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Post by Manservant on May 2, 2012 21:21:04 GMT -4
After seeing the response from the fans in regard to Cena, it's a fucking amazing move by the WWE. The fans were CHEERING Cena!
Brock is a dangerous man, and I don't care how scripted the whole thing is, he hurts when he hits, because he is trained to hurt people, and pulling punches is really hard for him. He beat the shit out of Cena, and the right thing happened in regard to Cena going over.
It was an uncomfortable match to watch to be honest, because Brock could literally have broken Cena into little pieces whenever he wanted to, and I was waiting for him to mess up and hospitalize John.
I don't know where they will go with Lesnar. I hope he stays, but I'm worried he;s going to seriously hurt someone at the same time, so I really don't know. In the UFC I didn't care, because they go in there to hurt each other, and as a viewer, I expect that. Wrestling is more of a dance, where they look after each other and try to make each other look good - but in the straightest way possible lol.
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Post by Pepsi on May 3, 2012 10:34:49 GMT -4
I didn't like the finish, but after thinking about it today, we really shouldn't be surprised. This is Vinces way to get back at Brock for how he left WWE 8 years ago, and also, a shot at the UFC basically saying "Your former World Heavyweight Champion is nothing compared to our #1 guy" I would have been more ok with Cena winning, if Cena had more offence in. A Steel chain punch and then a AA onto the steel steps is what it takes to beat brock. It makes him look super weak compared to the other matches which used chairs and singapore canes. But I guess we're to think that a Steel Chain is the most deadliest weapon in the WWE now This makes sense. The same way Vince buried the WCW guys when they came. The same way he buried Christian in ECW when he returned. This is Vince's way of saying, Ha, my guy John Cena can take more punishment than the UFC guys.
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Post by Level-Two on May 3, 2012 13:41:45 GMT -4
Only 12 year olds will believe that. Mission accomplished I guess?
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