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Post by Reaver on Jun 17, 2012 17:53:44 GMT -4
doctor nick in the game would be a lil overkill. we only have wat? 18 spots?
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Post by Michael Callahan on Jun 17, 2012 18:11:02 GMT -4
Thanks to this stupid game I'm in an endless loop of watching Simpsons clips when I should be writing a match for Asylum. Next time I get trapped in a boring conversation I'm going to collapse on my face.
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Post by [ManiC] on Jun 17, 2012 18:11:31 GMT -4
Hey I struggle to name 18 characters, nor going to lie
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Smash INC
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Post by Smash INC on Jun 17, 2012 18:52:42 GMT -4
Working out the possibilities for every single character in the game is just going to take up most of the day. Moe came up red, Burns and Smithers came up purple and the town is green.
What's important right now is how we approach the game, rather than guessing what Jeff put in.
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Post by T-Marv on Jun 17, 2012 19:02:29 GMT -4
I agree with Keaton. Figuring out how many mafia/3rd party there likely were was one thing, but dissecting every single character is crazy.
With 18 players... it is gonna be hard for power roles to nail a scum first day.
Scum tend to hate activity unless they're the ones leading it/in control of it. So they're probably cringing at this first day.
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Post by jasonandrews on Jun 17, 2012 19:22:24 GMT -4
Yeah normally its joke voting until page 8 but we through them for a loop speaking of wich
Unvote:TheSoul
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Post by The Soul Of Philly on Jun 17, 2012 20:58:35 GMT -4
Wait, Bacon voted for me? BUT I WAS JUST AT BURGER KING FOR A BACON SUNDAE!
I dunno why people are complaining about what we're talking about, I mean the justified was dead until day 3. At least this one we're talking!
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Post by Kurt on Jun 17, 2012 22:00:05 GMT -4
I apologize for my less than active presence thus far. I'm honestly not as familiar with the subject material as the rest of you seem to be (I've only casually watched the show a few times). I don't really have any input as far as who could be who, so I've been more paying attention to the way people are acting over anything. However, I don't see why people are complaining about this type of discussion. Everyone always whines about Day 1, so having a semi-productive discussion should be somewhat of a relief.
I'm more interested in people's reactions than the flavor at the moment, especially since Jules beat me to the scum discussion topic, ha. I agree with Goodburn, and Jules to an extent that Knuckles is up to his usual passive-aggressive gameplay. There's an obvious difference between aggressive and passive-aggressive play, as well as the reasons why you would choose to play either way.
That's all I've got for now, unless someone would like to make a jarringly obvious anti-town move in the last 24 hours...then I'll have more to talk about, ha.
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Post by Nathaniel Havok on Jun 17, 2012 22:35:10 GMT -4
In all honesty, I think we're ready way too far into this, way too soon. Just keep gathering information, until we get something solid. All the "guessing game" only starts fights, and suspicions. Keep gathering information? How the fuck does gathering information happen on day one? At least all this "guessing game" stuff is inciting action, and you seem like you're trying to quell the activity, something only SCUM would really do. Um... Idk where you've been... But Jeff has already dropped 2 hints. One with Moe in Red, and another with Smithers in purple. Those consist of hints, which is "gathering information". You trying to start something? Just backs up what I said about suspicions and arguments.
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Post by T-Marv on Jun 17, 2012 23:48:52 GMT -4
Um... that's not GATHERING information...that's being GIVEN it by the mod.
There has been no GATHERING of information unless you count your crappy little posts that all but prove that you're pretty much scum.
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Post by jasonandrews on Jun 18, 2012 1:00:38 GMT -4
How can we gather info at this point when all we have been doing is trying to put specific characters together but it is suspicious that chaz why wouldn't you want to get any info on day one are we supposed to do joke voting until a scum kills off in a way its good that we are doing the guessing game to see the possibilities that are out there and fact is we have gotten no real imput from you so that just throws a red flag for me so there for Vote:Chaz Dillinger
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Post by Michael Jennings on Jun 18, 2012 1:13:23 GMT -4
Right now I don't trust Bacon or Chaz at all. Those are the two players I'm looking at as possible scum. Chaz for the suspect posts and Bacon for the quick bandwagon starting just now. Seems WAY too opportunistic for my taste.
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Post by goodburn on Jun 18, 2012 1:59:11 GMT -4
Well, let's see how well this kindle fire can type... A lot has happened since last I checked in, the biggest argument thus far is rather or not observing Jeff's hints is merrit to call it "info gathering" An argument so intense, Chaz now has a vote against him... Although, Chaz's response was so out of left feild, I understand why he has a vote against him. I suspect Chaz will probably vote for Bacon, thus causing two groups to form, I'll nickname one group The Others, and the other group, The Oceanic 6. Which group will have the scum? I have no clue. With our luck, it's probably two townies fighting with eachother. That's my two cents, it's great to see the activity though, much more active than the last game. I'm just trying to keep it alive
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Post by Nathaniel Havok on Jun 18, 2012 2:03:58 GMT -4
I'm placing votes on no one. And furthermore, I find NOTHING that I said to sound scummy. Wow, this is ridiculous. All I said was "hey, let's not fight, let's continue to gather information", and I'm scum all the sudden? Come on, seriously? T-Marv was WAY too quick to call me scum. This is just, wow... I'm speechless.
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Post by goodburn on Jun 18, 2012 2:18:45 GMT -4
I'm with you Chaz, the numbers aren't in anyone's favor for voting to really begin on day one. If there was a lynch on day one, a townie would probably be lynched.
But in a game that pretty much revolves around confrontations, somebody saying, let's not fight, it raises some eyebrows. Also, gathering information on day one requires President Jeff. That's pretty much one hint a day (real days) In the mean time, we need something to discuss, and that usually causes fighting, which is needed for this type of game. Hence why I'm not going to tell people not to fight. If it makes you feel better, to me T-Marv is just as scummy for giving the first serious vote of the game.
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Post by Nathaniel Havok on Jun 18, 2012 2:37:41 GMT -4
Just so I can point out how absolutely ridiculous this is... There has been no GATHERING of information unless you count your crappy little posts that all but prove that you're pretty much scum. On day one? Really? Are you serious? You're worse than I am at this game.
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Post by Reaver on Jun 18, 2012 4:03:12 GMT -4
Just so I can point out how absolutely ridiculous this is... There has been no GATHERING of information unless you count your crappy little posts that all but prove that you're pretty much scum. On day one? Really? Are you serious? You're worse than I am at this game. hmmmmmm that or he is way better.........
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Post by President Jeff on Jun 18, 2012 6:15:21 GMT -4
VOTE COUNT
Tmarv (Branden) Chaz (Bacon)
18 Alive, 10 votes to Lynch Deadline Monday at 8pm EST
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Post by Jules on Jun 18, 2012 8:56:33 GMT -4
Right now I don't trust Bacon or Chaz at all. Those are the two players I'm looking at as possible scum. Chaz for the suspect posts and Bacon for the quick bandwagon starting just now. Seems WAY too opportunistic for my taste. I concur with much of this. Bacon has been scummiest so far, but I haven't played enough with him to know whether this behaviour is scumtell or just how he plays. I'm less so on Chaz. I think Chaz just has a bit of tendency to dig himself into holes. Not even sure what the issue was here, the whole 'info gathering' spat seemed to me a dispute over semantics rather than actual gameplay. We all know how Tmarv plays, he's always looking for someone to bite and that is exactly what Chaz did.
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Post by T-Marv on Jun 18, 2012 8:57:43 GMT -4
Lol.. I never voted for anyone.
I pointed Chaz out as scummy for what seems like his wish to stall the game. He said let's "keep gathering information" instead of discussing the game and what roles are out there.
While I agree that it's pointless to try to pick out characters... at least it has people talking and lots of activity, which Chaz seems to want to quell. And his "keep gathering information" line is jam packed with a ton of bullshit since we haven't GATHERED a bit of info other than what the Mod has given us. That's not gathering info...that's reading the writeups.
Chaz seems to have been blatenly trying to crush all discussion and I couldn't see anyone wanting to do that unless you're scum.
Unless there is massive information tonight (which I doubt being night one) I will be placing my vote on Chaz tomorrow.
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Post by T-Marv on Jun 18, 2012 8:59:59 GMT -4
Just so I can point out how absolutely ridiculous this is... There has been no GATHERING of information unless you count your crappy little posts that all but prove that you're pretty much scum. On day one? Really? Are you serious? You're worse than I am at this game. This is just a petty personal attack.... Grow up.
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Post by Nathaniel Havok on Jun 18, 2012 9:16:45 GMT -4
Just so I can point out how absolutely ridiculous this is... On day one? Really? Are you serious? You're worse than I am at this game. This is just a petty personal attack.... Grow up. And " all but prove that you're pretty much scum" wasn't a personal attack on me? Really? You are a douche.
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Post by T-Marv on Jun 18, 2012 9:30:06 GMT -4
This is just a petty personal attack.... Grow up. And " all but prove that you're pretty much scum" wasn't a personal attack on me? Really? You are a douche. No it wasn't... it was an in game statement. But calling me a douche...that's a personal attack.
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Post by T-Marv on Jun 18, 2012 9:34:01 GMT -4
in case your still confused... scum is a mafia term for a player who is anti town....just an FYI. So my statement was in no way personal.
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Post by goodburn on Jun 18, 2012 9:56:07 GMT -4
Lol.. I never voted for anyone. I pointed Chaz out as scummy for what seems like his wish to stall the game. He said let's "keep gathering information" instead of discussing the game and what roles are out there. While I agree that it's pointless to try to pick out characters... at least it has people talking and lots of activity, which Chaz seems to want to quell. And his "keep gathering information" line is jam packed with a ton of bullshit since we haven't GATHERED a bit of info other than what the Mod has given us. That's not gathering info...that's reading the writeups. Chaz seems to have been blatenly trying to crush all discussion and I couldn't see anyone wanting to do that unless you're scum. Unless there is massive information tonight (which I doubt being night one) I will be placing my vote on Chaz tomorrow. My mistake T-Marv, I was meaning Bacon. I was probably getting easily confused last night, with all of these people calling eachother scum on day one, lol. But Chaz, I think most people reading this argument are probably missing something. Maybe if you explain what you meant by "gather information" people wont be so confused. All people are seeing right now is people gang up on you, which can't look too well, especially with you acting so hostile to them. Just a suggestion.
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Post by C.J. Gates on Jun 18, 2012 10:07:51 GMT -4
I find it slightly amusing how TMarv is ripping on Chaz because Chaz wants to "gather information" on day one, which, in itself is TMarv gathering information. I mean, it would be a waste of a day if we didn't take note of people who's activity is sparse during these times of activity, who might be hiding in the shadows, how people are reacting to having the finger pointed at them.
It might not be night intel, but it's still gathering some form of information, no? Maybe I've used the term in the wrong place.
So far, the only things I've really noticed (aside from Jeff's three hints) is that Bacon does seem somewhat scummy, Chaz may or may not be trying to stall the game (though based on last game, I might need a bit more then a TMarv seal of approval to place a vote on Chaz), and TMarv is really pushing to make Chaz be seen as scum the next day phase.
Truth be told, I can't wait for the night phase. We might not be able to get intel from cops, but there are still plenty of roles out there that could help us find scum.
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Post by The Soul Of Philly on Jun 18, 2012 10:15:53 GMT -4
Any one else think bacon is a compulsory voter? First to put a vote for no reason. Like previously said, I dunno if that's how he plays but he either voted bc he had to or to start a bunch of joke votes
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Post by goodburn on Jun 18, 2012 10:29:26 GMT -4
Any one else think bacon is a compulsory voter? First to put a vote for no reason. Like previously said, I dunno if that's how he plays but he either voted bc he had to or to start a bunch of joke votes Well, the first day votes are usually joke votes. But the most recent vote for Chaz certainly doesn't look to be a joke vote. I'm pretty sure he means it.
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Post by Nathaniel Havok on Jun 18, 2012 10:50:19 GMT -4
I'm just still in amazement.
If you're looking for a translation, I was saying "Let's not fight, lets keep gathering information/trying to figure this out.".... But Tmarv finds that scummy, I guess. And Bacon just follows suit.
This isn't the first time that Tmarv has done this to me. Wont be the last. Odds are however, he wouldn't be mafia 2 games in a row. So I wont be vengefully voting for him. That's just dumb.
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Post by goodburn on Jun 18, 2012 11:35:54 GMT -4
I didn't "Personally" need a translation, I've been following this pretty well. To me this all seems just to be a spat, which usually never happens on day one from what I can tell.
But to be honest, it does have the lookings that one of the three of you are probably Scum. Bacon was pretty quick to jump into this. At first it was just between Chaz and T-Marv, Bacon all of a sudden jumped in and started pouring gas into the fire, and just ran with it.
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