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Post by Jason Cashe on Sept 24, 2012 4:14:10 GMT -4
I love it when Biggs talks rough about something. Call him a Butthead. It's almost like a female talking dirty, no homo. Not saying you're like a female, just puts off the same aura. It's a great thing to see.
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Post by Streets Wilson on Sept 24, 2012 12:06:06 GMT -4
Getting back on topic, one wrestler I cannot stand right now is Sheamus. Part of it is that I'm still pissed off about him beating Daniel Bryan in 18 seconds at WrestleMania (which honestly ruined this year's WrestleMania for me, I don't care how great the Undertaker vs. Triple H, Punk vs. Jericho, and Rock vs. Cena were, I could not enjoy the show because of that bullcrap.), another part of it is that even as a good guy, he's nothing more than a big bully. The only thing that he changed as a face was that he smiles more and beats up the bad guys instead. Also, he's horrible at selling injuries in the ring. Both in his match with D-Bry at Extreme Rules and Alberto Del Rio at Night of Champions, his arm was targeted, and he was pulling off moves that he shouldn't be able to if he arm was injured as much as it should have been. His attempts at comedy are horrible, and whenever he's on the mic, he has not once delivered a compelling promo that makes me see him as credible or that he has a point. It's all just "fella" and sucking up to the crowd. He also acts far too heelish, which annoys me to no end with faces. Also, I hate Rey Mysterio. Most hated wrestler ever. His style requires so much assistance that he makes it hard to suspend disbelief. Also, I am still pissed over the fact that he kept getting booked to beat Eddie Guerrero even though Eddie always carried their feuds. His mic work is nothing to write hope about, and he's gotten lazy and fat. Also, 2 strikes against him for the Wellness Policy, which when he's as high up as he is, getting suspended twice, well it makes me feel like he doesn't care enough about WWE to deserve the position he's in. Same thing goes for Randy Orton. "sà señor" I haven't laughed that hard at wrestling in years when Sheamus went cross-eyed and racistly said that to Ricardo Rodriguez.
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Post by Streets Wilson on Sept 24, 2012 12:10:08 GMT -4
I also hate Rey Mysterio, totally unbelievable, you can always see plain as day the other guy has to let and assist him in doing every move, and I never understood the "619" either, it looks like such a light little tap to the face. Not only that, its not like he's fast or anything like that like maybe he used to be, he's about the same speed as the big show... which makes the moves that much more stupid. I liked some of the matches he had with Pscicosis, but that was over like 15 years ago now...
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Post by 'The Standard' Ashton Daniels on Sept 24, 2012 17:01:46 GMT -4
I also really don't like Jack Swagger, they seemed to originally want him to become the next Kurt Angle, but he couldn't even tie up Angles boots.
He is so boring to watch and has nothing going for him, his look is boring, his mic skills are boring as is his in ring work.
Why WWE don't have some of the wrestlers/matches that TNA used to have a couple years ago, the likes of Sabin and Shelley type wrestlers. They always had good matches. WWE have the same type of matches all the time so people like Sin Cara can't show what they can really do.
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Post by The Soul Of Philly on Sept 24, 2012 17:28:00 GMT -4
I liked Swagger on ECW as ECW Champion, he was himself and was himself until he cashed in the MITB 1: 2: 3: ... *Stands up* Also, serious question to Streets, do you like anything that is put out now a days?
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Post by Streets Wilson on Sept 24, 2012 17:35:14 GMT -4
I liked Swagger on ECW as ECW Champion, he was himself and was himself until he cashed in the MITB 1: 2: 3: ... *Stands up* Also, serious question to Streets, do you like anything that is put out now a days? in regards to wrestling? I like Sheamus's moves. Daniel Bryan is pretty good. I like Alberto Del Rio, does his job correctly... I don't know... i watch a lot of old wrestling on WWE on demand and I buy a lot of Japan dvd's such as : bruiser brody in japan, scott hall in japan, etc. because I like the Japanese wrestling style much better.
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Post by Your JESUS on Sept 24, 2012 17:36:35 GMT -4
Who would like anything now a days. You have then pushing Cena down our throats, they fuck up storylines, and drop the ball constantly. The commentary is weak (Michael Cole) it's just painful for me to watch!!!
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Post by The Soul Of Philly on Sept 24, 2012 19:08:55 GMT -4
Who would like anything now a days. You have then pushing Cena down our throats, they fuck up storylines, and drop the ball constantly. The commentary is weak (Michael Cole) it's just painful for me to watch!!! Clearly you haven't been watching since they went to 3 hours. That said, Streets, I see you like that almost rough hard hitting style. You like Davey Richards at all?
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Post by Lord Raab on Sept 24, 2012 19:32:53 GMT -4
There is one wrestler that I absolutely thought was a waste of time and that's Funaki I mean seriously. This guy majority of the time got pinned in a matter of seconds and he even got thrown out of the rumble so quickly as well. He was the worst WWE wrestler when I watched the company. Likewise with Shawn Stasiak as well. Both of them were horrible wrestlers.
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Post by Streets Wilson on Sept 24, 2012 19:36:15 GMT -4
"That said, Streets, I see you like that almost rough hard hitting style. You like Davey Richards at all?"
yes. I love that kind of wrestling/wrestler. If there's going to be strikes, they better look like it would absolutely knock the average person unconscious. I also love the "shoot" style people. Kenta. Fujiwara. Regal. I love Chono. Masato Tanaka. I'm a huge fan of Scott Norton, who I read is going to make some sort of comeback in October. I love those people who you could imagine doing extremely well in say the UFC or something. Which is why I love japan so much, because theres lots of crossover with pro-wrestling and mma. "The Gracie Hunter" Kazushi Sakuraba, and Josh Barnett for sort of more well known examples.
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Post by Your JESUS on Sept 24, 2012 20:09:11 GMT -4
Tanaka was nasty...good mention there!!!
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Post by biggs on Sept 24, 2012 22:29:39 GMT -4
Anyone who watches tonight's RAW will see proof positive why I despise Sheamus and Rey Mysterio so much! Blatant bullying, blatant disregard for the rules, and yet they get cheered for it! It's garbage! Pure Garbage!
They're both BUTTHEADS!
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Post by Streets Wilson on Sept 24, 2012 22:29:56 GMT -4
Cody Rhodes has such a huge noticeable speech impediment that makes him sound like he was dropped on his head as a child...
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Post by Streets Wilson on Sept 24, 2012 22:31:50 GMT -4
Anyone who watches tonight's RAW will see proof positive why I despise Sheamus and Rey Mysterio so much! Blatant bullying, blatant disregard for the rules, and yet they get cheered for it! It's garbage! Pure Garbage! They're both BUTTHEADS! Rey Mysterio and Sin Cara are so pointless that I LITERALLY thought I was watching Sin Cara wrestle for like 7 minutes until he tagged in... Sin Cara... I was watching Rey Mysterio. Their very uninteresting.
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Post by The Main Attraction on Sept 24, 2012 22:39:15 GMT -4
Cody Rhodes Jack Swagger has such a huge noticeable speech impediment that makes him sound like he was dropped on his head as a child...
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Post by biggs on Sept 24, 2012 23:08:15 GMT -4
I also hate John Cena. Again, another face who does heelish things, and gets cheered like crazy for them. There's so many logical falicies to what he says, and he always thinks he's right even when he's blatantly wrong.
When CM Punk won at SummerSlam, it was because Cena took his eye off the ball. He gave Big Show the FU, Punk was up and behind him, and legally threw Cena from the ring to get the pin. No controversy there.
Cena's actions at the end of RAW tonight were just bullpuckey! Saying that "Real men wear pink," after ambushing Punk with a lead pipe reeks of hypocrisy. Real men don't claim to be good guys and do heelish things like that. If you're going to do bad guy things, than be a freakin' bad guy! That's all I ask!
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Post by The Soul Of Philly on Sept 24, 2012 23:40:51 GMT -4
Anyone who watches tonight's RAW will see proof positive why I despise Sheamus and Rey Mysterio so much! Blatant bullying, blatant disregard for the rules, and yet they get cheered for it! It's garbage! Pure Garbage! They're both BUTTHEADS! Rey Mysterio and Sin Cara are so pointless that I LITERALLY thought I was watching Sin Cara wrestle for like 7 minutes until he tagged in... Sin Cara... I was watching Rey Mysterio. Their very uninteresting. Rey = fat midget Sin Cara = "One move away from breaking someone's neck" midget
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Post by The Soul Of Philly on Sept 24, 2012 23:43:41 GMT -4
I also hate John Cena. Again, another face who does heelish things, and gets cheered like crazy for them. There's so many logical falicies to what he says, and he always thinks he's right even when he's blatantly wrong. When CM Punk won at SummerSlam, it was because Cena took his eye off the ball. He gave Big Show the FU, Punk was up and behind him, and legally threw Cena from the ring to get the pin. No controversy there. Cena's actions at the end of RAW tonight were just bullpuckey! Saying that "Real men wear pink," after ambushing Punk with a lead pipe reeks of hypocrisy. Real men don't claim to be good guys and do heelish things like that. If you're going to do bad guy things, than be a freakin' bad guy! That's all I ask! A one man armed man being threatened to leave otherwise be beaten that waits til the count of 5 for the man to turn around and THEN hitting him is fair from where I'm standing. That said, anyone remember when Cole said he didn't like Cena and Cena beat him up for it and embarrassed him for it? Yea, way to be a star
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Post by Metrodamus on Sept 25, 2012 0:36:33 GMT -4
There is one wrestler that I absolutely thought was a waste of time and that's Funaki. But ... but ... he was ... SMACKDOWN! NUMBA WAN! ANNOUNCAH!
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Post by Jason Cashe on Sept 25, 2012 1:35:50 GMT -4
He said it! I almost jumped and started cheering. Butt-head! Butt-Head!! Say it again!! Reginald needs to don this as his go to Name Calling Diss.
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Post by biggs on Sept 25, 2012 1:38:44 GMT -4
That's what "Mister" is for... Also, I'm not that fond of Ryback. Whenever I look at him, all I see is Skip Sheffield, and that's a bad thing. (And before anyone makes the comment that they're the same person, yes, I know. I haven't liked him ever since the SmackDown edition of Tough Enough with The Miz and Daniel Puder.)
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Post by Jason Cashe on Sept 25, 2012 1:40:37 GMT -4
He didn't say it.....
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Post by shanell on Sept 25, 2012 1:45:04 GMT -4
Did someone say they don't like John Cena? How could you not like John Cena?
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Post by Reaver on Sept 25, 2012 1:54:09 GMT -4
Did someone say they don't like John Cena? How could you not like John Cena? i preferr the term HATE, he sucks and blows at the same time OUT LOUD. hes a work horse ill give him that, but aside.....garbage
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Post by shanell on Sept 25, 2012 1:58:02 GMT -4
Without John Cena I don't even know if wrestling would be as big as it is. I'm not a huge fan, but he is the guy right now. He's the guy bringing the money in, and without him WWE would be in trouble. I don't watch it much anymore so i can't really say if he's gotten better or not, but I always thought he got too much hate, he's decent and been in good matches.
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Post by Jules on Sept 25, 2012 5:03:47 GMT -4
I also hate John Cena. Again, another face who does heelish things, and gets cheered like crazy for them. There's so many logical falicies to what he says, and he always thinks he's right even when he's blatantly wrong. When CM Punk won at SummerSlam, it was because Cena took his eye off the ball. He gave Big Show the FU, Punk was up and behind him, and legally threw Cena from the ring to get the pin. No controversy there. Cena's actions at the end of RAW tonight were just bullpuckey! Saying that "Real men wear pink," after ambushing Punk with a lead pipe reeks of hypocrisy. Real men don't claim to be good guys and do heelish things like that. If you're going to do bad guy things, than be a freakin' bad guy! That's all I ask! I don't watch RAW so I have no idea what's going on, but I agree with Biggs here. This is why I never really liked The Rock, I always thought he was a bully in a lot of the stuff he did, especially abusing and embarrassing the commentators and interviewers the way he did.
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Post by Jason Cashe on Sept 25, 2012 12:27:33 GMT -4
Bullies NEED to be in Professional Wrestling. Otherwise what are the Heels suppose to do with their spare time? BECAUSE WWE promotes an Anti-Bullying Program (So to save face with Linda's Senate Campaign) they should now refrain from having too many Bullies and most people have seen Mark Henry, Brock Lesnar and not said a thing. It's because their heel, they're suppose to be bullies. It's when it's the good guys like Sheamus who is good and bullies the bullies. I kind of like him for that though. It's the best anti-bullying program out there. Bully the Bullies and you at least are no longer bullied. Sheamus though is missing something, I like his Celtic Cross that they renamed White Noise but it's not his finisher. I dislike the Cloverleaf for him cause he locks it in dumb and takes a good minute to get it applied. His Bicycle like Kick is cool enough but like Biggs said, Daniel Bryan didn't deserve that. Shock Value should have been had elsewhere for WrestleMania. A World Title Match in 18 seconds? Kind of destroys some prestige.
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Post by Streets Wilson on Sept 25, 2012 12:53:54 GMT -4
Without John Cena I don't even know if wrestling would be as big as it is. I'm not a huge fan, but he is the guy right now. He's the guy bringing the money in, and without him WWE would be in trouble. I don't watch it much anymore so i can't really say if he's gotten better or not, but I always thought he got too much hate, he's decent and been in good matches. its best not to get into this. seemingly most people on here hate him. apwprez.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=wrestlingmma&action=display&thread=11995
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Post by Jules on Sept 25, 2012 13:45:22 GMT -4
Bullies NEED to be in Professional Wrestling. Otherwise what are the Heels suppose to do with their spare time? I think you misunderstood. It's fine for heels to be bullies as it is ONE way for them to get heel heat. However, a face (a supposed 'hero') going around picking on people who won't stand up to them? That ain't right. And while it may get laughs from some quarters, The Rock picking on some scrawny interviewer because of his/her hair or the shirt they're wearing, bearing in mind he is, what, 6'4'' 265lbs(?) and using 'virgin' or pseudo-homophobic jabs as slurs....that ain't cool and a 'good guy' (to quote Flair) shouldn't be doing that sort of thing. This the problem with WWE logic: The Rock makes fun of Mr. Interviewer and it's okay, and anyone who thinks its not entertaining is just a soppy git; but Mr. Heel comes along and does the same thing and we're supposed to hate him for it because Mr. Heel is a bully. If wrestling is supposed to be part morality tale, then WWE has it all wrong because they've made it (their morality) arbitrary and capricious.
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Post by Streets Wilson on Sept 25, 2012 13:49:41 GMT -4
Bullies NEED to be in Professional Wrestling. Otherwise what are the Heels suppose to do with their spare time? I think you misunderstood. It's fine for heels to be bullies as it is ONE way for them to get heel heat. However, a face (a supposed 'hero') going around picking on people who won't stand up to them? That ain't right. And while it may get laughs from some quarters, The Rock picking on some scrawny interviewer because of his/her hair or the shirt they're wearing, bearing in mind he is, what, 6'4'' 265lbs(?) and using 'virgin' or pseudo-homophobic jabs as slurs....that ain't cool and a 'good guy' (to quote Flair) shouldn't be doing that sort of thing. This the problem with WWE logic: The Rock makes fun of Mr. Interviewer and it's okay, and anyone who thinks its not entertaining is just a soppy git; but Mr. Heel comes along and does the same thing and we're supposed to hate him for it because Mr. Heel is a bully. If wrestling is supposed to be part morality tale, then WWE has it all wrong because they've made it (their morality) arbitrary and capricious. Good point...
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