First of all, I have to quote this rule to make sure no one does anything silly:
OFFICIAL RULES
Do not character-claim under any circumstances. You will be mod-killed if you do. As far as role-claiming goes, strictly speaking it is not prohibited, but you should think about the pros and cons of doing so before you actually do it.
I say should be read within moderation of that, especially if people are looking to confirm what I’m saying. I’m
not saying don’t confirm - please, confirm! - but when you are,
please make sure that you’re not break any rules. And make sure you
read carefully so that if you have any questions you’ll understand.
With that said ...
I expected to come home and find myself lynched, and to have been watching the votes pile on with my sporadic checking through the day. I note that only Arcadia has a vote on me, so to everyone I say thanks for giving me a chance to clear my name.
I’ve been tossing up on how detailed I need to be here. Hopefully I don’t go into too much depth here and out anyone else. But I do have a role, and I might as well come out because by the end of this I’m either going to be the mafia’s night kill or lynched (so you’ll at least be able to use my information the next day phase when I turn up town).
Flavor cop here. I’ve been collecting a handy little list of items from some people. This is the list of people I investigated:
- AC Smith
- Mark Mania
- TJ
- Blocked
- Arcadia
Taking this one-by-one, I want you to all know why I investigated you:
AC SmithIn the first day, I thought that general conversation was as scummy as hell - where everyone was talking about random celebrities and what-not. It was such a distraction from talking about serious things. Even after talking about the possibility of third party to begin with (which, ironically, was started by Jeff to give him some credibility when the write-ups came up), it really went off-course. When Level-One came in and “corrected the ship” so to speak, I went back over that list to see who was feeding it in particular ways. JamesV instigated it in a sense, and on top of him these people (in my opinion) were the people who sustained it: AC Smith, Rebel, Knuckles. Yes I posted in it (only once) and so did Arcadia (only the once), but these four really helped give it life.
The thing that seemed the weirdest was AC Smith’s throw-away post:
I may have to vote for Tmarv for posting that picture ;D
Quick; rush-lynch the mod!
VOTE: T-MarvI mean, to joke around about lynch people on first day ... it’s a bit of a red alert for me. The same way it should have been when Jeff was speculating with more than a little certainty that there was a third party. So AC was suspect to me. I don’t know what everyone else was thinking at that day and I’m not concerned with what people think about it now (“You so stoopid Sally! What a silly reason!”). It was Day 1, I had nothing better to go on. That’s it.
When I investigated, I got back a syringe. There’s no mistaking it. Later, on Day 2, I tried to lay a trap (to be sprung
after the lynch on Watson/Stryke): Say that I think AC is scum and see who goes for it. I knew what he was: Town. There’s no mistaking that item. However, Level-One went after him early and, well, sprang the trap before I could even let it simmer haha! But, essentially, I wanted to draw scum attention to him. Risky, but for the good of us all.
I didn’t say anything because ... he’s the freaking doctor! I’m shocked that he’s alive for this long. I also never got the chance because he confirmed it himself - no need to pile on or relive the debate.
Mark ManiaIt’s been so long since I played that I couldn’t remember whether Mania was a veteran or not. Because of this, I wanted to get some concrete information on him. So Night 2 I investigated him. He was largely absent from the whole game and, given his play, not proving too useful. I got back a notepad. I had no idea what, for sure, this was meant to be. But when he turned up dead two days and a night later as the deprogrammer, I assumed it was like the note-taking pads that psychologists have, thus his role. But because I really didn’t
know what it was - and, for a while, thought it was a journalist role - I didn’t want to out Mania. Either of those roles (for which there was a high percentage chance of it coming back as one) are for the good of the town, and therefore needed to be kept secret.
I accept that this will be construed as “convenient” that he’s dead and I’m claiming something from him. When he turned up dead, there was no reason to spill that I had information on him. I could remain under the radar for another night - which is important, given that there’s a role blocker out there.
TJI investigated TJ because: a) I didn’t know if he was experienced or not, and; b) He stuffed up the character and participant listings at least once each day. I thought that this was either a blatant scum move (distract and disrupt) or some poor rookie mistake. Turns out it’s a poor rookie mistake. Now, as he hasn’t outed himself, I have no intention of doing it for him. Even stating what the object was I got back will either sway the scum towards him or away from him. I know that he’s helpful to us all and, frankly, I want him to stay around.
Because there has never been any real momentum on a TJ lynch, again, I stayed quiet. Why draw unnecessary attention? I could get through another night phase undetected. However, before resigning myself to another quiet day, I reviewed the thread because I had the time off doing work and, for a few games (when I used to play), I was able to go pretty good by going over the fine details with a
map. The more I read of Stryke, the scummier and scummier. So scummy that if he was still town he would be a distraction later one, anyway, when numbers are thin and scum can easily influence a day lynch.
So I took a calculated risk and put together that post. As I said at the start, I believed that Watson was a good lynch and that he was more reliable, but as I also said I think that given we had come together for a lynch early, why not take some time to explore other options. I didn’t vote for Stryke (though I would have given the chance to change my vote) but I do accept I started the ball rolling. I had circumstantial evidence and wanted to get any hard evidence on him out in the open so that we could judge him fairly. Turns out that no one had any. But while I started the ball rolling, the person who really gave the ball the biggest shove was Stryke himself. No defense. Scummy posts. No real idea. I wasn’t the only one who though this too: Level-One, JamesV, Jules, AC Smith, Rebel, Knuckles - they all thought that there was reason enough (after my post) to lynch Stryke.
This is my biggest regret in the game. I lynched a town. And I outed myself as still pretty good at putting together a case with people and, if I got information, I would be able to start putting cases on to scum players. Not a good day for any of us, but certainly not a good day for me.
BlockedAnd this was why I was kicking myself only a few hours after the lynch. I’d been blocked. After Level-One had been blocked (preventing his check for insanity) and then JamesV - the two most aggressive players yet - obviously I was going to be next. I intended to investigate Watson, especially since the next day phase was likely going to be a lynch-move on him.
When I got to the thread, Knuckles was already behind the 8-ball (thankfully, in hindsight). JamesV came in with what he said was 100% information. Ok, so we went on JamesV’s information the first time and I’m glad everyone went with JamesV’s information again this time (despite my interference haha!).
But
TWICE times was this question asked:
Also, was anyone roleblocked? If not...
The role block claim is essential today. If there's none that means we have nailed nearly the entire scum team.
And I was. I was roleblocked. I was working with Level-One - the town cop - all the way to now, so why wouldn't I answer his questions? I couldn’t get anything on Watson. I could quote my PM ... but I can’t. Against the rules. But I can tell you I was roleblocked. Turned out it’s the scummer’s roleblocker. It makes sense: We know that they have one, we know that they used it first on Level-One (experienced player, good at putting pieces together), then JamesV (experienced player, had been the information guy so far), and then me (experienced plater, good at picking up on the detail ... most of the time).
So when the question was asked, I answered straight up and down: I was blocked. Then I added on (in my poorly typed message - I hate touch screens. ‘say’ = day, ‘that s’more’ = that the more) this:
I can confirm that AC is what we think he is. I can also confirm that s'more reliable lynch is Watson.
Yes, I threw out there that Watson should be the lynch. We
knew he was third-party. Level-One and JamesV
confirmed it (though, isn’t it convenient that Level-One (town) is gone and now I’m (town) being fingered - two people who believe that Watson is a safe lynch to gather more information) and then we’re going after Knuckles? It didn’t seem as reliable. The information that JamesV has given has
not previously been given through roleblocking. But not I understand his role. I didn’t, but I do now.
I did not try
just to change the focus from Knuckles, I tried to prolong the day to give me a chance to get in on it and to also remind ourselves that there was a way we could confirm Knuckles as scum for sure with the next night phase and lynch Watson (who we have confirmed as the recruit) who we know is not helping the town at this stage. Watson was a safe, reliable lynch and Knuckles was a calculated risk.
I was burned by the last ‘calculated risk’ of Stryke. I was wrong there and I didn’t want to be wrong this time. That was it. If I had been given more time to weigh in, I’d have been able to contribute more and would have likely have pushed for the Watson lynch some more. But that’s all I was asking for, time or the Watson lynch to give us more time. I find it
highly ironic that this:
This was in discussion of a Knuckles lynch, she threw this in, and it went unchallenged. We had Knuckles all-but-confirmed as scum, and Sally tries to change the focus to Watson, who was confirmed third-party and essentially, harmless?
Why were you trying to take the focus off Knuckles? Perhaps she was trying to cover for him?
Was written by the same person who wrote this:
No explanation from me.
Weekends are busy for me, as I'm working most of the time, and haven't caught up on the thread yet.
I can assure all of you my character shows up in green and I'm town.
I’m being slammed because I can’t live in front of the computer 24/7 and yet a guy who was online on no less than three occasions last weekend couldn’t even find the time to check in? At least I contributed and at least I took part in the lynches that are going on. I got on my phone, contributed information (actual answers to an actual question) and then tried to play for some time so I could contribute more. Now, when Level-One is gone (the guy who was suspecting you the most) and when people aren’t throwing around your name and when Arcadia (who has been just as suspicious as you) “clears” you you’re now taking part and trying to throw me under the bus. Do we need to revisit you day one and two and even three contributions?
As for your accusations, Arcadia, I’m putting the same accusation to you. Your had a 4-point reason for voting for me, so I’ll do the same:
Posting Pattern- 9 posts since Level-One is dead, and all bar one accusing me of being scum with even a vote.
- 15 posts yesterday when Rebel is pinned as scum and you’re defending him. He’s also defending me and has played scummy as hell.
- 7 posts on the day before, some of which are used to try and sway the Jeff vote and draw suspicion onto Level-One, and then (when it’s a near certainty) you get on it
- 10 posts on the first day and most of them were contributing to that very scummy conversation.
Level-One’s AccusationsYeah Level-One pointed the finger at me. But if you think it’s suspect that Level-One stayed alive only to be killed the day after he died, then consider this:
He accused Rebel
He accused you, Arcadia
He accused Krunk/Callahan
All in that last day phase. In fact, I’m sure the only person he wasn’t accusing was himself and JamesV. You’re pulling at straws there, Arcadia. I know I’m town so I can see why your argument isn’t bulletproof. But if you can rely on Level-One’s suspicions from yesterday as a reason to vote for someone, I’m sure you’ll endorse people voting for you or Rebel or Callahan as well?
Detracting AttentionI’ve accounted for my attempt at moving to Watson from Knuckles. What about you and Jeff? You tried to distract from the Jeff lynch. You intentionally questioned why we shouldn’t trust JamesV and Level-One. And now, because they’ve got a pattern going it would be silly to question them. So start questioning the next strongest player: me.
ProofYou have proof on me? What is it. I’ve been
more than open about my ‘facts’. I’ve got facts on the next person I’m accusing
and I’ll share them too. You’ll throw out an accusation on me, say that you’ve got evidence ...
... then don’t share it, suggesting you have fabricated evidence.
... that’s sketchy, so that when I turn up town you can go “Oh well, it was the evidence’s fault.”
This has gone on for heaps long. It’s ended with relaying my suspicion on you two, but it began by proving why I’m town and refuting the claims against me. Now you know, and now I’m the next mafia hit, I’m sure. But I’m going to be fighting this day phase, I can tell you that. When everyone is satisfied that I’ve accounted for all their questions (I’m not saying that I’l dispel all your suspicion - we need to be suspect of everyone here; but when no one has any questions left) then I’ll start a push for the person we need to lynch today.
