The Smooth One
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Post by The Smooth One on Oct 14, 2012 19:14:16 GMT -4
I am Redskins fan...I just had to post that. HTTR!!
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Post by Reaver on Oct 14, 2012 19:38:45 GMT -4
im all for putting down peoples sports teams, but prolly not a good start OOC wise for u :-p just sayin  |
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Post by The Soul Of Philly on Oct 14, 2012 19:40:16 GMT -4
WHAT THE FUCK DOES HTTR FUCKING MEAN!?!?!
On topic, I love RG3 but I hate that he plays for the redskins.
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Post by Jason Cashe on Oct 14, 2012 19:47:50 GMT -4
Of course you like him TJ, he's a young Michael Vick. The guy will learn that his size will have him being even more like Vick in the sense he will have a hard time staying healthy during a full season. If he remained in the Pocket or stayed behind the line a scrimmage even, he'd be alright but I have no faith in dumb rushing QBs who are too small to take some of the hits their taking. Vick is trash to me, Philly needs to replace him now and will once Andy Reid is fired after this garbage season THEIR gonna have. Just saying...
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Post by The Soul Of Philly on Oct 14, 2012 20:36:02 GMT -4
Of course you like him TJ, he's a young Michael Vick. The guy will learn that his size will have him being even more like Vick in the sense he will have a hard time staying healthy during a full season. If he remained in the Pocket or stayed behind the line a scrimmage even, he'd be alright but I have no faith in dumb rushing QBs who are too small to take some of the hits their taking. Vick is trash to me, Philly needs to replace him now and will once Andy Reid is fired after this garbage season THEIR gonna have. Just saying... Honestly, at this rate, I hope Lurie just fired Reid by week 13, fires Juan, they find someone dumb enough to trade for him (Bills) and then have Trent Edwards start next year until Foles is ready. But on topic, RG3 is not a young Mike Vick, he's better, he can throw the ball. It's just he's small and fragile. Jake Locker is more a dumb running QB than RG3 |
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Post by Johnny Rebel on Oct 14, 2012 21:32:48 GMT -4
I'm a diehard Redskins fan, diehard, and that was unbelievable. Seriously, folks, RG3 is a problem! He's a league changing QB.
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Post by Jason Cashe on Oct 14, 2012 23:21:52 GMT -4
Yeah he is a bit better than Vick was at that age of his career. He just seems to light up the rushing a bit too much and that's when injuries will come. Vick did it for a few years and then started getting clapped and put on the Injury List. We'll see though, my Texans got their asses handed to them tonight. They gave up or didn't come to play, they played dumb today and deserved the loss.
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Post by Your JESUS on Oct 14, 2012 23:28:35 GMT -4
WHAT THE FUCK DOES HTTR FUCKING MEAN!?!?! Hail To The Redskins is what it means...puke is what it makes me |
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Post by Mark Mania on Oct 15, 2012 10:38:04 GMT -4
RGIII had an awful week last week.
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Post by The Soul Of Philly on Oct 15, 2012 10:42:17 GMT -4
Ah we'll I'd rather contract aids then hail to the redskins
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Post by A.C. Smith on Oct 15, 2012 10:43:39 GMT -4
I am not a Redskins fan, and I find Daniel Snyder to be one of the worst owners in sports. However, RGIII is a guy who has the perfect skillset for this era of football. The NFL really frowns on defensive players who go hard after quarterbacks (exhibit A: James Harrison), and that's not something Vick had to deal with when he came into the league. If Vick came in 10 years later, his career would have unfolded MUCH differently because, in some cases, guys would have been scared to lay into him.
I'm all-in on RGIII as a game-changer, especially once he gets an impact wide receiver in the next few years.
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Post by Mark Mania on Oct 15, 2012 10:48:17 GMT -4
RGIII is as much of a game changer as Vick or Vince Young or Cam Newton. Eventually people figure him out, then he gets a couple big hits and his whole body hurts and he comes back to earth.
138 yards rushing means that's 138 yards where those "big hits" from guys like James Harrison are completely legal. Can't keep that up.
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Post by Johnny Rebel on Oct 15, 2012 11:15:08 GMT -4
RGIII is as much of a game changer as Vick or Vince Young or Cam Newton. Eventually people figure him out, then he gets a couple big hits and his whole body hurts and he comes back to earth. 138 yards rushing means that's 138 yards where those "big hits" from guys like James Harrison are completely legal. Can't keep that up. Can't get a hit on him if you can't catch him! |
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Post by The Soul Of Philly on Oct 15, 2012 11:19:03 GMT -4
The falcons can catch apparently
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Post by Johnny Rebel on Oct 15, 2012 11:31:51 GMT -4
The falcons can catch apparently Yeah, he's going to have a bad game from time to time, name a quarterback that doesn't in his first season. He made a massive mistake, didn't get out of bounds, and got clobbered. Watch the Minnesota game this week and you'll see how he's adapted. Comparing him to guys like Vick and Newton is ridiculous. Cam's ceiling is Big Ben, with slightly less intelligence, but more speed. He's in the middle of the pack in completion percentage and has a knack for giving away games with untimely turnovers. Vick has always been a superior athlete playing quarterback. He's mistake prone, can't make the big throws, has a major fumbling problem, and has the intelligence of a sixteen year old. At Tech, they constantly had to scale back the playbook so that Vick could focus on 1/2 half of the field at a time. If his two options were taken away, he'd run. He's about to be chased from the Eagles and probably will cost Andy Reid his job. Meanwhile, RG3 has always put up incredible numbers, including leading the league in completion % this season, is widely regarded to have a cannon for an arm, and the Redskins offense is going from being one of the worst in the league to near the top, if not the top, statistically. People will always compare him to Vick and Newton because of the color of his skin, but in-game wise, he's a dead-ringer to Steve Young with even more speed. Hail to the Redskins! |
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Post by Mark Mania on Oct 15, 2012 11:49:25 GMT -4
"Always put up incredible numbers"
C'mon, I know you're a skins fan, but it's Week 6. Calling him a "Steve Young" is more of a stretch than calling him a "Vince Young".
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Post by Johnny Rebel on Oct 15, 2012 11:55:53 GMT -4
"Always put up incredible numbers" C'mon, I know you're a skins fan, but it's Week 6. Calling him a "Steve Young" is more of a stretch than calling him a "Vince Young". Stats at Baylor: Freshman - 160/267 (59.9%), 2091 yards, 15 TD/3 INT, 142.0 Sophomore - injured, no significant stats. R-Sophomore - 304/454 (67%), 3501 yards, 22 TD/8 INT, 144.2 Junior - 291/402 (72.4 %), 4293 yards, 37 TD/6 INT, 189.5 RG3 vitals are constantly better than any of his "contemporaries" that people want to compare him to. He's a more accurate passer, and always has been, then Newton and Vick. Vick's best season, in the air, couldn't touch RG3's in college or where RG3 projects in the pros. It's not a fad. |
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Post by Azrael Goeren on Oct 15, 2012 12:00:19 GMT -4
The man is a freak. Plain and simple. I'd say he's more Steve Young than anything else, and I know that's a lofty comparison but he fits that bill far better than the lazy Newton comparisons.
Just wait until he gets more experience and can read Defenses better. All of his mistakes so far are easily correctable with more playing time.
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Post by Mark Mania on Oct 15, 2012 12:11:06 GMT -4
What division in the NFL is Baylor in?
Here are some more stats
Sophmore - 255/402 (63.4%), 3556 yards, 38 TD/ 9 INT, 164.5
Junior - 269/412 (65.3%), 3322 yards, 33 TD/ 6 INT, 156.5
Senior - 283/431 (65.7%), 3815 yards, 28 TD/8 INT, 157.7
Guess who?
Matt Leinart and his Heisman Winning, BCS Championship Winning, POS ass.
College stats mean nothing to me.
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Post by Metrodamus on Oct 15, 2012 12:19:35 GMT -4
Matt Leinart is who I aspired to be. Dude is a fuckin' boss ...
Then I realized O-lineman don't get to be that popular and said fuck it.
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Post by Azrael Goeren on Oct 15, 2012 13:26:04 GMT -4
I would definitely agree that college stats don't mean much once you graduate into big boy NFL land...but RGIII has shown enough in 6 weeks to at least make me think he's going to be one hell of a pro down the line.
Can he keep it up for the rest of the season? Can he be as impressive next season or will he flame out in his sophomore year like some other QBs in the league (looking at you, Cam). Those are the questions Redskins fans should be thinking about but its hard to deny his play so far in 2012.
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Post by Mark Mania on Oct 15, 2012 13:45:35 GMT -4
RG3 has less passing yards and passing TD's than the past two guys who were QB's for Washington through the first 6 games.
He's a mobile QB, like Vick, Vince, and Cam. And like them, he can't keep it up.
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Post by Your JESUS on Oct 15, 2012 14:14:25 GMT -4
Cam Newton=selfish, RG3 soon to be determined but I feel the same.
Another Vince Young
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Post by Jason Cashe on Oct 15, 2012 14:45:25 GMT -4
Vince Young lost it mentally. He broke down and where he did that, RGIII won't. I believe RGIII is probably smarter than Vick or Young was at this stage of their careers. He seems to be a smart guy and time will tell if he can stay healthy. You know what would help that? A good Offensive Line, that never hurts!
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Post by Metrodamus on Oct 15, 2012 15:46:45 GMT -4
I think it'll ultimately come down to the weapons presented to each of them. Steve Young had Jerry Rice and Terrell Owens to throw to. Michael Vick had such standouts as Brian Finneran and Peerless Price? Vince Young had ... no one? Cam has Steve Smith but I don't believe he's the same type of athlete that Young or Vick are -- in fact I agree with the Ben Roethlisberger comparison, a little quicker but lacks the pocket awareness.
I think for RGIII to be a success he's going to need better targets than Pierre Garcon and Santana Moss (who are probably comparable to everyone listed above.) Mobile quarterbacks need downfield threats (Culpepper and Moss, Young and Owens/Rice) that are going to be drawing man-doubles, and an underneath threat to keep linebackers honest because that opens up running lanes. If other teams are able to keep a spy on him at all times because they're not worried about getting lit up by his arm they're going to stop him but if they've got to worry about other weapons then he'll be a success.
I think the biggest problem will be the 2 other 1sts Lucifer moved to get him because that's going to stunt the talent they can add. I think Morris and Helu will be a solid running back tandem but having to spend money in FA on WR is going to present problems because you'll overpay and hurt your team overall because you'll have less cap space to spend elsewhere.
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Post by Azrael Goeren on Oct 15, 2012 16:01:40 GMT -4
Oh Peerless Price.
The Alvin Harper of his generation.
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Post by Your JESUS on Oct 15, 2012 16:17:30 GMT -4
I think if you compare Big Ben to those other guys the biggest difference his main objective is to throw the ball. It's never how many TD's is he going to rush for. Cam, Young, Vick, and now RG3 I think seem to be fueled with the thought if the play breaks down the first instinct is to go. Ben seems to mostly move to find another target most times...kind of like Rodgers as much as I don't like that guy.
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Post by Nick Watson on Oct 15, 2012 16:48:32 GMT -4
Redskins being one Offensive Line and Receiver away from being a great team is a scary thought.
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Post by Your JESUS on Oct 15, 2012 16:50:36 GMT -4
They have had lots of talent that they ship off way too soon.
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The Smooth One
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Post by The Smooth One on Oct 15, 2012 16:57:14 GMT -4
First of all ...the thread means RGIII is a Bad *other*ucker) ..and I am a die hard Redskins fan so I am not putting the team down! And while my owner may be a little misguided and has put his trust and faith in some people who weren't the best football minds(including himself). He is learning and moving up to draft RGIII is a great step in the right direction!!
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