The Smooth One
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Post by The Smooth One on Oct 15, 2012 16:59:11 GMT -4
Redskins being one Offensive Line and Receiver away from being a great team is a scary thought.
I think the Redskins are a secondary away from being very scary!! LOL They need a corner and a safety...and well from right now it looks like we have our kicker problems solved!!
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Post by Metrodamus on Oct 15, 2012 18:18:30 GMT -4
... and well from right now it looks like we have our kicker problems solved!! I wouldn't go that far. You just don't have Billy Cundiff anymore which really is an indictment of your team in that he was on it in the first place. And I'm going to disagree with the Newton analysis in part by saying it's more a function of the talent around him. Ben has guys like Hines Ward (since retired) and Heath Miller who know how to work there way open so he's better off buying time in the pocket. Cam has Steve Smith who's not going to fight his way open (hence Wallace's exclusion from the Ben argument) and that leaves him with ducking under as a viable option. You're also not looking at the relative maturities. Ben ran a lot more when he was younger than he does now. |
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Post by Mark Mania on Oct 15, 2012 18:29:39 GMT -4
RG3 sucks.
*see top of signature
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Post by Jason Cashe on Oct 15, 2012 19:33:34 GMT -4
Redskins being one Offensive Line and Receiver away from being a great team is a scary thought. I think the Redskins are a secondary away from being very scary!! LOL They need a corner and a safety...and well from right now it looks like we have our kicker problems solved!! That sounds like a lot of issues with the Team. I think Shanahan is good but isn't going to be a Superbowl Coach again. He was simply because he had John Elway. He doesn't have a Running Back and his Offense is very much the same as Houston's Offense. Kubiak and Shanahan have very tight ties to each other. So without a running back, this is a newer experience for Coach Mike. How he does in the long run will depend on how well the talent is and how long they can stay healthy. Even All Pro Teams need to have chemistry and that is something Mike has had issues with getting at times. |
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Post by Metrodamus on Oct 15, 2012 19:48:40 GMT -4
Redskins being one Offensive Line and Receiver away from being a great team is a scary thought. I think the Redskins are a secondary away from being very scary!! LOL They need a corner and a safety...and well from right now it looks like we have our kicker problems solved!! That sounds like a lot of issues with the Team. I think Shanahan is good but isn't going to be a Superbowl Coach again. He was simply because he had John Elway. He doesn't have a Running Back and his Offense is very much the same as Houston's Offense. Kubiak and Shanahan have very tight ties to each other. So without a running back, this is a newer experience for Coach Mike. How he does in the long run will depend on how well the talent is and how long they can stay healthy. Even All Pro Teams need to have chemistry and that is something Mike has had issues with getting at times. I think Shanahan is the perfect coach for that team. He was OC in San Fran during Steve Young's best years. Yes that team had a solid defense (Prime-Time on the corner, Ken Norton, Dana Stubblefield and a young Bryant Young) that Washington is missing, however if anyone's going to harness that talent schematically I'd trust the Shanahan brain trust (Mike and Kyle). |
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Post by Johnny Rebel on Oct 15, 2012 20:00:28 GMT -4
Redskins being one Offensive Line and Receiver away from being a great team is a scary thought. I think the Redskins are a secondary away from being very scary!! LOL They need a corner and a safety...and well from right now it looks like we have our kicker problems solved!! That sounds like a lot of issues with the Team. I think Shanahan is good but isn't going to be a Superbowl Coach again. He was simply because he had John Elway. He doesn't have a Running Back and his Offense is very much the same as Houston's Offense. Kubiak and Shanahan have very tight ties to each other. So without a running back, this is a newer experience for Coach Mike. How he does in the long run will depend on how well the talent is and how long they can stay healthy. Even All Pro Teams need to have chemistry and that is something Mike has had issues with getting at times. Doesn't have a RB? Come on, Kash! Do some research before you stick your foot in your mouth. Alfred Morris currently sits at #4 in rush yards for the season (only 60 behind the leader), and comes in tied at #3 in TD's scored with 5. |
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Post by The Soul Of Philly on Oct 15, 2012 20:21:53 GMT -4
Well, as long as Shanahan doesn't promote Kyle to DC, he'll be fine.
In other words as long as he doesn't get Andy Reid as a coach, he'll be fine.
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Post by Metrodamus on Oct 15, 2012 20:27:08 GMT -4
Well, as long as Shanahan doesn't promote Kyle to DC, he'll be fine. In other words as long as he doesn't get Andy Reid as a coach, he'll be fine. #JuanTooManyProblems |
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Post by Jason Cashe on Oct 15, 2012 22:09:27 GMT -4
@rebel: Wanna bet he doesn't place at the end of the season? Not even top 5! I know who Alfred Morris is and think he's doing decent but it's the system not the back. If anything, they will target a HB in the next draft. It'd be wise of them for sure.
I just don't see a long term success for Morris is all, he has basic tools and in that system it's all you need but if it were Terrell Davis like Shanahan had? Or Clinton Portis? They both ran shit under Shanahan. I have my doubts about him is all, that's why he wasn't mentioned. Redskins aren't the worst though, probably one of my favorite "rebuilding" teams out there, I'm just critical of teams. Even my own.
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Post by Johnny Rebel on Oct 15, 2012 22:11:29 GMT -4
If Morris doesn't finish over 1,000 yards this season, I'll walk butt-naked to Texas and knock on your door.
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Post by Metrodamus on Oct 15, 2012 22:48:40 GMT -4
If Morris doesn't finish over 1,000 yards this season, I'll walk butt-naked to Texas and knock on your door. I thought you were Christian - not Jehovas Witness. |
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Post by Jason Cashe on Oct 16, 2012 0:13:30 GMT -4
It takes less than 40-50 yards a game to make 1k a season. That signifies nothing. You could plug any back into that system and they could average that with the yards per attempt he has right now. What I like about him is his size, 5'10/218 almost the perfect back for that one cut system. So you could see him blow up but with his best 21 attempts in a single game, it's unlikely he will be retaining his average. Michael Turner had good averages as well to start off with. Not compairing, just saying. Good averages are something that unless you focus on that guy, it will drop as his carries continue to stay low. The Redskins are more directed at RGIII and his Pass and Run style which will win games. Again, I don't dislike Washington. I just don't believe in a new Stand Out until he's done it for 2 years in a row. See Chris Johnson since he's been paid. Larry Johnson once he got paid, the list goes on. Shaun Alexander being the biggest failure after being paid. Most get lazy and most bust their ass for the paycheck and then quit playing hard. I dunno, maybe it's because The Texans sucked ASS for so many years. Redskins kind of in the same boat so I should appreciate it more.
KC is the worst team in the league right now. We need an NFL discussion thread, this is RGIII's topic.
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Post by Metrodamus on Oct 16, 2012 20:12:13 GMT -4
I'm torn on whether 1000 yards is an important benchmark nowadays just because of the number of timeshares. I think looking at 4.0 yds/carry is probably a more important stat.
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Post by Johnny Rebel on Oct 16, 2012 20:30:19 GMT -4
YPA is a flawed stat as well. C.J. Spiller of the Bills currently sits at 7.6 yards per attempt; meanwhile, Arian Foster, widely regarded as the best in the league is only managing 3.8.
There has been a death of RB's in the NFL...and it's killing me in fantasy football.
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Post by Metrodamus on Oct 16, 2012 20:44:38 GMT -4
YPA is a flawed stat as well. C.J. Spiller of the Bills currently sits at 7.6 yards per attempt; meanwhile, Arian Foster, widely regarded as the best in the league is only managing 3.8. There has been a death of RB's in the NFL...and it's killing me in fantasy football. The thing is that brings up the argument as to why he's the best? If it's argued based on yardage and touchdowns that's more a function of usage. The more red zone touches will equate to a greater number of touchdowns and more touches are equivalent to more yards. Foster gets 25 totes a game so even at his average he's looking at 1500 yards a year which looks impressive ... but Spiller over the same number of carries is looking at close to 3200 ... though you're more likely to see a return to the mean but I still think he'd have 1500 at that number of touches. |
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Post by Johnny Rebel on Dec 31, 2012 1:05:20 GMT -4
Bump.
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Post by Mark Mania on Dec 31, 2012 1:09:05 GMT -4
You know what, congrats to him. Lets see what he does in the tournament. He's exciting as hell.
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Post by Johnny Rebel on Dec 31, 2012 1:15:00 GMT -4
You know what, congrats to him. Lets see what he does in the tournament. He's exciting as hell. I'd like to point out that I was correct on Alfred Morris as well. He finishes second in the NFL in rushing behind Peterson. With all of the successful rookie QB's, he won't get a look for ROTY but he certainly should be in the discussion. I've been waiting for this since '99. I'm beyond excited. |
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Post by J-Hop on Jan 6, 2013 22:04:26 GMT -4
Is it my fault I just discovered this topic?
I'm proud, we had a good run after a shitty start. It's only once in a lifetime you can draft a star QB with another stellar QB behind. It's only work of magic to scout out a 6th round gem like Morris. Santana, Garcon, Morgan, I appreciate what they've done for this season. I'm a happy camper.
Today, the whole damn week. Everyone talked shit about this game. Pissed me off because we get so damn hype and when we get results like this, it's like helium exerting out of a busted balloon. Seahawks didn't truly win this game. They know that. I hope they get murdered by the Falcons (but who knows, ATL might drop another egg).
I appreciate RG3 bravery, but that man has too much damn pride. I love it but at the same time, it makes me mad. You're 60-70 percent healthy and you want to play with an annoying brace. While he did give us a good start tonight, I blame Shanny and his son for not taking him out when the struggle to dropback and plant that foot was noticeable.
Half of Maryland (part that's not Baltimore) and D.C pretty much went on a near-two minute pause when that man fell down. I'm not gonna lie, I busted out with a tear, it wasn't quite as gruesome of a look as when Theisman went down but that fall scared the hell out of me. To see Dr. Andrews "scouting" on the sideline, I'm sure it made a few feel uncomfortable, putting more doubt into a situation that wasn't needed.
I just hope there isn't another ACL injury. I'm definitely going to be with my hands in the air screaming "Why?" repeatedly.
Too many Giants/Cowboy/Steeler fans in MD. If I see a Giants fan or a Cowboy fan with a smile tomorrow, I might just go 'Trent Williams' on their ass...
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Post by The Soul Of Philly on Jan 6, 2013 22:27:06 GMT -4
They scored 24 unanswered points? How the fuck didn't they earn that win? Washington's D isn't good, it's about average and against a balance offense with a power runner, you better force them into passing situations quick.
BTW, Russell Willson for ROTY, I kid, but he gets no love at all.
BTW, James Andrews is the team's doctor, he's always there.
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Post by The Smooth One on Jan 7, 2013 1:39:52 GMT -4
Seattle took what was given to them. The Skins defense is a bend but don't break group and the offense just didn't generate enough offense to change the field position in the second half. Let alone giving the defense some time to rest. I am anxious to here RGIII's diagnosis...everyone in the DMV is waiting with baited breath!!
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