Hunger Games Mafia game thread (DAY SEVEN)

[Jules]

Just got in from work. I'll catch up and report later.

[Michael Jennings]

Oct 26, 2012 7:16:05 GMT -4 The Soul Of Philly said:

Oct 26, 2012 3:05:23 GMT -4 Michael Jennings said:

No lynches only help out the scum. Let's try and make a decision because something is better than nothing and right now the consensus is we want nothing which is not good at all.

A mislynch with the way l1 set up this game could be bad. He said he set it up that it would reward good play. Which means the roles mostly have something of substance. I'm not disagreeing with you but you're literally shooting in the dark this day.

Not really. I'm going by gameplay, reactions, and patterns of play in this game. That is not shooting in the dark.

[C.J. Gates]

Oct 26, 2012 13:53:45 GMT -4 Michael Jennings said:

Oct 26, 2012 7:16:05 GMT -4 The Soul Of Philly said:

A mislynch with the way l1 set up this game could be bad. He said he set it up that it would reward good play. Which means the roles mostly have something of substance. I'm not disagreeing with you but you're literally shooting in the dark this day.

Not really. I'm going by gameplay, reactions, and patterns of play in this game. That is not shooting in the dark.

Both a mislynch and a no lynch help scum, but at least in the case of a mislynch, we can get an idea based on, as James said, reactions and patterns and whatnot. A no lynch basically allows scum to sit back.

With that said, I still don't feel 100% on any of these votes, though a fair number are beginning to draw my attention.

[KJE]

Oct 26, 2012 4:51:50 GMT -4 yarmouth1 said:

With that be said with Kaylyns over reaction am just gonna have to vote for her.

Vote: Kaylyn

I have to wonder if you even read through anything or if you just seen someone say I over reacted and went with it. There was clearly not an over reaction which was what we had all been discussing. Suit yourself though.

[Reaver]

checking in.

obviously this is getting us nowhere. the only things we have to go on are Yarmouth being quick to drop a vote, TJ's overreaction to KJE's fos and Speede's abnormality. i really want people to check in more but its obvious that some are stalling on purpose.

[Speede]

checking in. and something you'll learn very quickly, as if you hadn't already, knucklehead, is that I'm quite abnormal, and i'm proud of it, thank you very much.

anyway, senior night at the football game, and I'm going. Be back in a few hours.

[Michael Jennings]

So you call Knuckles a "knucklehead," which could be considered a personal attack or at the minimum flaming, and aren't expecting anyone to pick up on that? Please. Not buying it.

Right now Yarmouth for the suspect vote with crap reasoning, TJ for the reasons already stated, and Speede are the three players I'm looking at. Guaranteed one is scum, two at the most. Third out of the three is likely a townie using bad judgment. But right now those are the three players I think are our best bets for nabbing non-town whether it be scum or third party.

[Reaver]

i find it awfully "convenient" that u suddenly check in after i throw ur name out.....

[KJE]

Unvote : No Lynch. Vote: Speede

Reason being? I have been watching you this past day or so and seeing what you say... like I said before I had an FOS for you for a reason, and the more you speak the more I think you are Scum. I have to go with my gut here seeing as I am not the only one thinking it. Hopefully I am right.

[yarmouth1]

Checking in just woke up so will Read it later.

[Jules]

In terms of gameplay I'm inclined to say what has stood out to me is A.C.'s behaviour I pointed out earlier, that little tete-a-tete between Kaylyn and TJ, Yarmouth's vote, and the somewhat odd behaviour of Speede. I've noticed one or two things in addition, but my thoughts are a bit tentative in that respect. For another time and place maybe.

Oct 26, 2012 18:18:59 GMT -4 Michael Jennings said:

Right now Yarmouth for the suspect vote with crap reasoning, TJ for the reasons already stated, and Speede are the three players I'm looking at. Guaranteed one is scum, two at the most. Third out of the three is likely a townie using bad judgment. But right now those are the three players I think are our best bets for nabbing non-town whether it be scum or third party.

This actually summarises my thinking on the matter too. However, the possibility of all three being scum? Well that only works for me if we're dealing with a completely inexperienced scum team. If there were an experienced member I'd expect he or she would be guiding these 'rookies', and would have especially put a cap on Yarmouth, who to me just comes across as a guy who isn't quite sure what he is doing. I'd be surprised if he turns up scum, my read right now is that he is a 'rookie' townie trying to be part of the game, but not entirely au fait with the mechanics of the game.

Speede, he's playing this same card, but seems to have been called out by Kaylyn. While I doubt 'Knucklehead' was a personal attack, more a sarcastic (and lame) play on Knuckles' ID, I am getting some negatives vibes from him. However, we've been stung in this respect before (notably that idiot Gubayama in Misfits mafia), and I'll recourse to my point that if he is scum, I'd venture it is only part of an inexperienced scum team.

TJ is a tad more experienced in these parts, so he gets less leeway. Agreed he got himself in a bit of twist with Kaylyn/James and very quickly got a tad defensive, but I'm not convinced that is enough to suggest with any certainty he is scum.

I'm actually more concerned by James' early play at leading the town. Yeah, yeah I know you're an aggressive player, bud, but that appeal to your supposed authority is an unsound argument (as are all meta arguments), but to quickly switch the slant of your argument from 'I've got a proven record' to 'I play by what I see and feel' is a tad inconsistent. On top of that, if we're gonna be all meta about this, you did have some success in the last game and I still applaud you on using your role to single-handedly bring down both scum and third party (btw, you weren't then working with little, but concrete evidence), but you've also had your fair share of howlers (as we all have).

These are the facts: we have nothing but a few suspicions, unsubstantiated hunches, and any shot would be into the dark. I'm not going to vote no lynch because I don't on principle, but as it stands I don't really see this day going in any other direction.

[Nick Watson]

Checking in for this day. I don't know what we can do without any information, but there is clearly some people who are acting very suspicious. Sadly, without a night one we have no information to go, and with that no real definitive vote to make. Yet, we need to make a vote. We can't just beat around the bush pointing fingers and randomly hoping to get something of use from suspicious activity. I would love to be patient about this and wait things out another day, but we can't do that, and we definitely need to get something done today or go into another night phase without a single clue as to where we are going.

So, who do we vote for? Do we vote for the most suspicious? Do we vote for the Kaylyn or Jeff to clear the other? I think that voting for either Jeff or Kaylyn can clear the other's name. And I'm sure that if we have a doctor, he will protect the other one to ensure we have either Kaylyn or Jeff for next day phase. So, that means we lose another town, but we also clear a town in the process and enable us to move our search elsewhere.

What do you guys think?

[The Soul Of Philly]

Nick your either not reading everything or ignoring it but the three options for voting are me, speede, and Yarmouth.

Personally I'm thinking Yarmouth is town, he's just not knowing what he's doing. I think the whole knucklehead comment was a play on knuckles name, which was lame as hell. Out of the two of them I'm leaning more that speede is scum but not enough to lay down a vote.

[Nick Watson]

I'm choosing to ignore it because we have nothing concrete to actually go on. Voting either of you three just because of "suspicion" is how we get town killed. And I would rather clear one of the two I mentioned than try to randomly vote one of three possibles out. At least this way we clear somebody and that allows us to move forward. Besides, we will have night actions following night phase and if we have a cop he can just check in on things, and clear others.

[President Jeff]

A cop will be useless on Night 2. Night 1 he could have tried to investigate himself and fail. So Night 2 he'd investigate himself to see if he's sane or not

But your whole post makes no sense. You throw my name out there based on Nothing.

Vote: Nick Watson

[The Soul Of Philly]

I know I started it but the more I think, the more I'm leaning that both are town. It very obvious in the right up that there is a mason group in the town, and no one countered it.

That said you wanting to lynch one of them, rather based on suspicion that kje is lying, rather than one of the other three because they are off pure suspicion is moronic reasoning IMO

[Nick Watson]

No, I threw out your name because Kaylyn said she could prove you are town, and gave absolutely no information other than "I can prove." Yet, instead of giving any more information you quickly voted me, and then Tj calls me a moron for wanting to clear one of you two. If I didn't know any better it would appear that you three are scum. But, I will wait till someone else can read into this, but for right now you three seem awfully scummy together.

Especially since you are getting overly defensive over me simply wanting to clear one of you two and thus sparing us any further doubt that you guys are telling the truth. I didn't even vote...I threw out a suggestion and you guys started hounding me for it.

[President Jeff]

I don't know how KJE can clear me, maybe she's a cop. I don't know. I was blocked last night along with everyone, so I don't know what kind of info you want. My vote still stands. I don't trust you

[Nick Watson]

Which makes it weird that she said you were 100% town, Jeff. It's the whole reason I wanted to do this in the first place. Nothing more than gathering information that would be necessary to the town's cause.

[Michael Jennings]

Oct 27, 2012 5:23:35 GMT -4 Jules said:

I'm actually more concerned by James' early play at leading the town. Yeah, yeah I know you're an aggressive player, bud, but that appeal to your supposed authority is an unsound argument (as are all meta arguments), but to quickly switch the slant of your argument from 'I've got a proven record' to 'I play by what I see and feel' is a tad inconsistent. On top of that, if we're gonna be all meta about this, you did have some success in the last game and I still applaud you on using your role to single-handedly bring down both scum and third party (btw, you weren't then working with little, but concrete evidence), but you've also had your fair share of howlers (as we all have).

These are the facts: we have nothing but a few suspicions, unsubstantiated hunches, and any shot would be into the dark. I'm not going to vote no lynch because I don't on principle, but as it stands I don't really see this day going in any other direction.

Yeah, everyone has howlers but I do want to point out that there is some suspect play going on and you worrying about someone trying to keep discussion going and having the same suspects list as you is suspect in itself. It makes no sense. I also like how you covertly are trying to turn this back around on me by using the 'I've got a proven record' to 'I play by what I see and feel' comments which is a very weak argument considering that what you see and feel determines how you use your night action, how you vote, etc. A vet player like yourself should know better than to come at me with that argument considering any other vet player will see right through it. I also like how you said I'm 'leading the town' when if you look at the vote count and the gameplay in general as far as the game goes that is CLEARLY not the case. The only thing I advocated was not having a no lynch and posted my top three suspects (TJ, Speede, Yarmouth). That's been it. So to say I'm trying to lead the town is an understatement when clearly all I'm doing is playing my own game.

After Watson's comments and TJ's responses TJ is off my suspects list and now replaced by Jules. I think Jules was covertly tryng to set something up on me and likely one of the players on my list, one who is town, will get killed tonight and it's the perfect set up bait. I call those "Set Up Kills" which are done to kill one players and set up another by making it seem like they have bad game reads or to set up their lynch. Watson does make a good point about Kaylyn and Jeff. The only thing I can think of is Town Masons or the Rue thing in the write-up where she received something from another player. Only things it could be.

Unvote
Vote: Jules

For planting the seeds for something the next day phase. Very obvious going by the comments that basically say "Don't listen to him even though I did going by my post and the analysis of his suspect list. He's trying to lead and control you." when that is entirely not the case at all.

[KJE]

James without saying which part is right... You have it figured out on how I know Jeff is Town.


Nick, as far as TJ, Jeff and Myself being scum as you said... how the hell? TJ has been coming at us back and forth for a while, hell me and TJ were going at it until he let it go. How the hell have we been working together just because he changed his mind? That makes no sense really.

It feels like some people are only skimming through what goes on and thats really not helpful. Without reading everything you won't really understand anything going on and understand which way to go.

Honestly after another night phase we should be able to go somewhere.

[Speede]

checking in. Nothing really new to report. Kay, you're making a mistake trying to vote for me, chiquita. and as far as things go, Jeff is making quite a good point. Nick, you're looking pretty scummy; so while I'm starting to retract my FoS on Kay because, the more I think about it the more I understand the whole "how she knows Jeff is safe" thing, the more I come to terms with what Jeff is saying...

Unvote (no lynch).
Vote: Nick Watson

[yarmouth1]

It's true I have not a clue on what am doing but that been said at this time it's all guess work

At the moment and when Kaylyn was defending Jeff it just seemed a little fishy to me that's why I voted for her.

May be am wrong may be am right I dunno but to me I have a feeling that may be Jeff and Kaylyn are scum if am wrong my bad.

[A.C. Smith]

Just checking in. Wish I had something of note to contribute to the discussion, but I don't.

[Michael Jennings]

Yarmouth, no editing of posts.

Kaylyn, I knew it had to be something along those lines. Nothing else would make any sense.

[Level-Two]

Yarmouth, STOP editing your posts. That's your second time. One more and you get a penalty another one and I will mod kill.

That makes deadline. Night two has now begun. Do not post after this message! You have until 8:00 PM Sunday to send me your night actions. The earlier I get them the earlier we start.

[Level-Two]

Night Two of the Hunger Games

During the day the power had returned to the arena. The Careers returned to camp after no successful kills but filled with heated rage and anger. Before the power had went out Cato and Marvel had the girl from district six locked dead in their sights but the power outage has allowed her to make a narrow escape.

Marvel: I'm telling you the game maker is rigging this game against us! The Careers have been dominate in the past several games and now they want one of their precious underdogs to rise up and win the whole thing. They saved that little girl from district six.

Cato doesn't say much he merely walks into the entrance of the Cornucopia entrance that Glimmer had already de - rigged prior to the boys return. She was caring for her ally Clove who was still badly injured in fight with Thresh. As Cato walked in Glimmer quickly rose to her feet and approached Cato.

Glimmer: Cato, I'm so glad your back. Those tributes are up to no good. The tried to rig this place with explosives and someone ransacked our supplies. The Tributes know we are here.

Cato nods his head.

Cato: Then if that's the case then we let them come get us. We will kill each one of them and send them back to their district in pieces.

Marvel interjected.

Marvel: Glimmer is right, Cato. We need to relocate at least for a night. The game master is no good and he's probably giving the tributes our information.

Cato glances at Clove. He reaches down and picks her up as she growns in pain. He lifts her on his shoulders and looks up at one of the cameras inside the cornucopia.

Cato: To the Capitol, I ask you this. Do you really want one of those tributes to win? Do you really want to give those people from those insignificant districts hope!? Do you really want to set a precedent of having one of these little people win!? We eat, sleep live and will die for these games - it is they who will rebel! It is they who will put an end to the hunger games! Are you going to let them put an end to these games?

Cato smiles.

Cato: I didn't think so.

The careers all file out of the cornucopia in search for a better hideout.

In the Forrest Katniss Everdeen is having her bandage re wrapped by Peeta Mellark. The two had met up during the day after the power had returned after previously being separated at the start of the games. Hanging around them is an unlikely ally in Johannah Mason. She sat on guard with a spear on in hand tracking any potential prey.

Peeta Mellark: Do you trust her?

Katniss Everdeen watched Johannah Mason as she sharpened the tip of her spear.

Katniss Everdeen: No, not exactly but if she wanted to she could've already killed me. We can't win these games alone and we need to play it smart.

Peeta Mellark: It's me and you until the end, okay?

Katniss smiled. Johannah Mason heard something rumbling in the bushes as she lifted her head up and her spear in the air. The disturbance alerts Katniss and Peeta as they quickly rise to their feet and stand on guard.

Behind a thick layer of forestry, Betee and Wiress are seen walking through the woods together with Betee holding explosives in his back pack.

Wiress: eee, oooo, teeee, zo, alooo, ahkah, tick tock.

Betee stops dead in his tracks after hearing the caution from Wiress.

Betee: What do you mean the game is about to change?

Wiress points up at the sky which his wildly changing colors. A bright purple explosion erupts high above the sky causing purple rain to pour from the sky.

Wiress: Tick Tock.

On the other side of the bushes Johannah Mason is looking to size up her prey but just as she throws the spear Cato comes out of nowhere grabbing it and uses it to flip Johannah Mason over onto her back, holding the spear to her throat.

Ding!

Katniss Everdeen fires of a single bow breaking the spear right in half. From the trees Marvel throws a blade at Katniss Everdeen but Peeta Mellark is able to save her throwing them both through the trees sending them onto the path of Betree and Wiress who both immediately take off running.

Marvel readies another throwing blade for Johannah Mason but he's distracted as The Girl from district six shoots a rock at him with a little cheap make shit sling shot. She giggles and takes off running which allows Johannah Mason to escape from the unarmed Cato.

Marvel: Damn that little girl! Damn her to hell!

Behind the scenes of the hunger games President Cornelius Snow is in the control room as Seneca Crane watches on in a panic fearing for his job.

President Cornelius snow: What the hell is the mockery of my games! It's been TWO days and there's still over fifteen of them alive! The tributes from some of the districts are starting to rebel! The people of the capitol want to see death. They want to see destruction and that's exactly what they're going to get!

Seneca Crane: Please, President snow I promise I can correct this! The mutts! I'll release the mutt mutations! They'll kill a bunch of them, I promise!

Suddenly, President Cornelius Snow smashes Seneca Crane head first into the control panel before violently snapping his neck showing the world that the old man still has it. President Cornelius Snow looks over at Haymitch Abernathy who's responsible for handing out sponsorships to the players inside the arena.

President Cornelius Snow: You may proceed.

Dead night two: Seneca Crane - Game Maker - Jules

Day three has now begun. With 16 alive it takes 9 votes to lynch.

Day three will end @ 8:00 PM EST Wednesday.

[KJE]

I have to ask.. Tj, what did you do last night?

[President Jeff]

Checking in

I must say, Thanks scum for killing the third party

[The Soul Of Philly]

I visited Roy