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Post by President Jeff on Oct 28, 2012 19:44:14 GMT -4
The show has been posted
Thanks to Lively, Kash, Callahan, Tmarv, Evan, TJ, Azrael and Biggs for writing matches
Thanks to Yarmouth, Raab, Casper, Lively, KJE, Terry, Azrael, CJ, AC, Kash, Chris Hart, Level One, Atkens, Evan, Logan Alexander and Knuckles for writing segments. If I missed anyone, let me know so I can give you segment points.
Feedback on the show is welcomed and encouraged, good or bad
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Post by T-Marv on Oct 28, 2012 19:52:08 GMT -4
I'll have more tomorrow, but I just want to say.
Of what I read, the match quality is ASTOUNDING. I'd pay 50,60,70 dollars to watch this as a real pay per view. God bless you match writers.
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Post by Reaver on Oct 28, 2012 20:52:13 GMT -4
u forgotten me boss.....
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Post by Jason Cashe on Oct 28, 2012 21:00:33 GMT -4
Firstly the video was cool, not the greatest one done but the theme was fantastic! So I'll get to the show now...
Delikado and Mania was all over the place, GREAT beginning to this PPV. Back and forth, spot for spot. I loved the Taser part but I'm always biased to a good tasing.
Logan's Segment seemed a bit long but the grey somehow mesmerizes me a bit so I was into it the whole way through. I think he works good conversation and I feel for him cause he can't seem to have any luck with partners. Kash is in the same boat.
I just threw together a segment and figured to add in a new side character. Someone to piss Kash off being around him but also someone he can't bully will be fun to have for me.
Sucks Shanell no showed the PPV, maybe she has reason. Good win by Finnish, good showing and I look forward to him furthering his time in APW.
Raab and Yarmouth's segment is almost ignored as I came to see Goeren's name below it. For Raab and Yar, it was an okay segment. I'd say have more substance and not just throw things together but look at me, I did the same. Carry on.
I don't care what was said in the Goeren segment, his website was fucking brilliantly done. Then came him interacting with L1, Gates, and Biggs? It was like having all the real wrestling companies come together for a video game. Just fantasy booking right there and for it to be in APW? Fuck the rest of the world.
I hope people like the Parking Lot Brawl. It's funny cause the idea came from "Lion Heart" a movie with Jean Claude Van Damme but Biggs informed me about Eddie Guerrero and John Cena having a match with the very same setup. So I got to use that to help me write the match and after I finished it on Saturday (I think) I had so many more ideas I could have done with it. Still I enjoyed it and knowing the match could have been close as hell if not him beating me if he had posted a 2nd makes it suck more cause it'd have had more feel to it then.
I liked the questioning of Gates to why Saint went to Asylum. I like that they can still get together and merge their talents in a segment like this. Very typical segment but they have a way of making things so interesting. Gates to me will always be the APW Poster Boy. He was the entire first and a half year I was here. So this was cool.
TJ and Farq was something. The spacing was off big time but it was still readable and I enjoyed the process. I usually don't take to submission matches much because only true fans of submission like all that hugging. However I happen to like it in MMA and this felt like a fight before it being a submission so much. The ending came off as a bit odd. TJ not wanting to quit so the ref stops it? Unless he's passed out, when does that happen? But furthermore, Farquhar needs a shot at the World Title. Just saying...
Lively impresses me for the simple fact that everything he writes is done so via his Cell Phone. He should label his phone, FedPhone because he runs everything from that and still comes off as a beast. Guy is great and needs to be off Meltdown and on a bigger show. If new names, big names no longer have to do Meltdown then an APW Hall Of Famer being on there is retarded. Fuck what I think though, ignore me.
The triple threat was pretty good shit. The ending being among the better endings of the night. The talk between the two, Envi seen his end coming and still ran off at the mouth. Watson as Champion is bad for the economy. Haha.
Goeren is fucking Everywhere! Also I think his M&Ms got sent to Kash's locker room. I threw them out, thought someone ate the other colors. Go figure..This nice, friendly shit with TMarv has to go! I suspect the biggest name in eWrestling will get a quick title shot and with TMarv as Staff I'd think he was pretty close to giving up the belt anyways. Maybe not, I'm a fan here just seeing it unfold and like most fans. I think of ways it can play out. THIS is how you entertain us as the fans of our own product. Very nicely done here.
The NA Title Match was interesting. I had Krunk or AJP winning this and look, both were the final two! I got excited during this match a few times. The action was simple but used well at the right moments. I think it was clear to me or at least I hoped that Lively would be moving on. I think this was that moment and AJP and Krunk stepped up to show that they are next in line. Congrats to AJP.
That was the segment? Srrious? That's almost as poorly done as KJE's segment. COME ON! Kash won't be mad at that, it's laughable at best. (Puts on Arab Accent) Dhank Yoo Come Again!
The first Elimination Chamber match? FUCK THIS! How can anything compete with this before or after? Srriously? Fuck it, I'm done. Nothing else needs to be said, this was the pinnacle of what should be and can be done in a match like this. Fuck the rest of this show, everyone go home....Bye...
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Post by Jason Cashe on Oct 28, 2012 21:09:42 GMT -4
Sorry, figured since this was match was two posts I'd go two posts to be funny. Lame I know, my bad. I'll resume after this commercial.
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A Commercial for Christmas Chaos plays.
LIVE DECEMBER 23rd
FROM MADISON SQUARE GARDEN IN NEW YORK CITY
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I'm back! Now onto Mr. Grey aka Casper The Grey aka SoSoFriendly! Welcome to APW and you're one of the new guys I knew back in the day. Looking forward to the game plan.
The Battle Royal? Well Mr. Dangerous should have lasted longer than Flakes. That should be a given damnit. Besides that KJE's promo for this was annoying to me like a long nose hair. Bothered me to no end. With that said though the weak got eliminated and it ended with Knuckles and Strike. For a debut Strike came with it but maybe a little popularity got him some votes. Regardless of how things seem to be with "Big Names" he is my next opponent. I asked for more competition on Asylum and it has arrived. Christmas Chaos will be fun even if it's just for the lesson learned.
The Asylum Chamber was cool, I just ehhh..It was cool. Congrats to Sally. Good you got that now cause the talent pool is flooding.
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Post by The Soul Of Philly on Oct 28, 2012 21:41:42 GMT -4
Ill have more tomorrow if I have power. But kash the ref explained it that he deemed TJ unable to defend himself. Much like a ref will call a match in mma or boxing because the fighter takes an inorbedant amount of punishment and makes a call to spare the fighter from more damage.
With a possible broken ankle and the chair around his neck and Jules about to break it, the ref made te call
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Post by Jason Cashe on Oct 28, 2012 22:16:47 GMT -4
Yeah I get that but in Pro Wrestling? Doesn't happen, different. So it's a plus as well. That's all I was saying. Or trying to say..
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Post by Michael Callahan on Oct 29, 2012 0:20:37 GMT -4
The Asylum Chamber was cool, I just ehhh..It was cool. Congrats to Sally. Good you got that now cause the talent pool is flooding. If you have constructive criticism to make I'd be glad to hear it. My planet sized ego is impenetrable. |
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Post by The Main Attraction on Oct 29, 2012 0:36:18 GMT -4
Me & Finnish Phenom did a segment as well
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Post by Metrodamus on Oct 29, 2012 0:46:16 GMT -4
Me & Finnish Phenom did a segment as well I didn't see no segment. |
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Post by C.J. Gates on Oct 29, 2012 0:50:46 GMT -4
Let me start by saying this was an awesome PPV.
It did a good job at validating what we already know: APW has some awesome talent. Last year when 95% of the titles changed hands, we had a deep pool, and I think we've only gotten deeper, which can be backed up by all the RPs that were put out and the winners of the matches. Awesome work by everyone that helped make it as awesome as it was.
Without going through a play by play of each match I'll just highlight a few points.
- Some of the commentary was gold. I think most of the commentary that got me was in the Delikado/Mania match. I think there was one that I LOL'd at, and then realized it might be borderline inappropriate to laugh at (I think it was the throwing homeless people into fires). Awesome line and the whole commentary action there was awesome as well.
- Some fantastic segments throughout the show. I liked how Goeren interacted with a lot of the participants in the chamber, but I also liked some of the other segments that were around. Some might have been too long and/or had no place on a PPV, but I don't think it took away from the PPV as a whole.
- Match of the night for me? Undisputed title Elimination Chamber. Maybe it was because I was involved in it, but I felt that, overall, that one gripped me more. I also liked the storytelling in the match, as far as the alliances/team work and just the various people involved. Biggs did a good job on it so props to him.
- That's not to say the other matches weren't written well because they were. Really well in fact. I think the fact that APW has so many people able/willing/good at writing matches helps because we don't get 1-2 guys writing a full show, but 8-9, which means we will have varying levels of writing to show the various matches.
- The ONLY part of the EC that I might have disliked was that Goeren didn't get involved more. There's probably a good reason, but I had thoughts that there would be more of him sticking his nose in people's business. Might just be a personal preference though lol.
And a BIG congratulations to all the winners, AND to all the new champions. Lots of great RPs and RP battles for this show, and I think in the end, everyone put forth a great effort and made this another awesome APW PPV.
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Post by Jason Cashe on Oct 29, 2012 3:58:48 GMT -4
Gallagher: None, it was a really good match. The match writing wasn't an issue at all man. @mannie: I seen your segment and then it vanished. Might have something to do with the homophobic nature of the segment maybe? Not sure, you'd have to ask Jeff.
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Post by SalTal on Oct 29, 2012 4:59:04 GMT -4
The Asylum Chamber was cool, I just ehhh..It was cool. Congrats to Sally. Good you got that now cause the talent pool is flooding. Yeah Kash, what do you mean? Actual feedback to come. When I sit down at a computer and really digest it all. |
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Post by Anthony Bailey on Oct 29, 2012 12:53:39 GMT -4
Gallagher: None, it was a really good match. The match writing wasn't an issue at all man. @mannie: I seen your segment and then it vanished. Might have something to do with the homophobic nature of the segment maybe? Not sure, you'd have to ask Jeff. You probably think that I should have been the first one out don't you? lol! |
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Post by Phil Atken on Oct 29, 2012 13:27:45 GMT -4
I'll try and get to full feedback later because this card will take me a while to go through and feedback with the detail I like to. Enjoy my reactions to the main event though: - Oh man, I hope I don't go out first. I think I did two p. good RPs but so did everyone else. - Jesus this shit is intense and crazy. - WHAT THE HELL? CALLAHAN FIRST? Oh man, I've reached my goal. - Oh, Atken's in now. I expect my defeat to be imminent. - REBEL TOO? I've made a decent showing. - Wait, Saint's out? Oh, this must be building to a Bailey/Sally ending, makes sense. I'll take the third and be proud. - ... Bailey's out? Could I win this? I probably can't win this. Maybe? Maybe! - I think I might win this! - Oh no I didn't. Now you may say this is a very egotistical way to view the match and you'd be right. Kidding aside, I had a hell of a time being involved in the chamber as the "dark horse" as people liked to put it. It was a pleasure to be involved in such a stacked and talented field (even if the field isn't up to Kash's standards  ) Sally is an incredibly deserving winner, storyline wise it was a long time coming and the writing Sam has put forward backs that up. Callahan you done a great job with the match, I mean obviously I was involved so I was bound to be drawn into it, but I really was grabbed by it. I've scanned a lot of the card but I want to do hard work justice (like Biggs plea for help that was the Overdrive chamber) so now the selfish part is out the way, I'll try and get the rest up some point this week. |
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Post by Chris Strike on Oct 29, 2012 15:37:34 GMT -4
Going for an official, super duper review come later tonight once I'm back home from work.
However, let me just compliment all you guys and gals in APW altogether...the labor of love that goes into these shows has been evident to me for months after watching PPV after PPV go up. Great RPers, great environment all around and I look forward to diving further into it.
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Post by Jason Cashe on Oct 29, 2012 18:04:15 GMT -4
@sally: Don't worry Sally, I wasn't meaning the winner was wrong or that you winning made no sense. You've been on Asylum for what a year or more now? You've been working consistent and have long deserved the belt. The Main Event BECAUSE of the rest of the show...just felt like too much. Felt like the "fans" would be so filled with so much awesomeness that I wasn't really SHOCKED seeing any of the eliminations. Make sense? Nothing to do with you by any means, if anything I'm more of a fan because of association.
@bailey: No dude! Although that's funny! Me as a Handler have gotten past the base because you've made the character more than just the base. Kash doesn't like Bailey and will be LOVING the loss but I have no real ill will man. I just named the rival in my Pokemon game Bailey...No hard feelings! Haha
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Post by President Jeff on Oct 30, 2012 6:13:53 GMT -4
Would love to hear feedback from people who don't normally leave feedback
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Post by Nick Watson on Oct 30, 2012 7:04:29 GMT -4
I'm gonna leave feedback once i get this ip ban from proboards remove.
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Post by Evan De Parker on Oct 30, 2012 7:05:47 GMT -4
I'd like to think I "normally" leave feedback... >_> But I'm in the midst of typing one of these up anyway!
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Post by SalTal on Oct 30, 2012 8:30:53 GMT -4
Ok, finally getting a chance to jot down my feedback. Given this is about the second time I’ll have read ONiH, it won’t be my first impression. But it is the first time i’ll read it from top to tail.
I like the video. Given that we weren’t going to have a video until real late, it’s even more of a bonus! Thanks Jeff. Yeah, it might not have been your personal best, but given that we’re all about chamber matches here and there’s only so much footage you can use for that, well done!
Liked the spiel by the commentators at the start. Gives a big show feel to the whole thing - and rightly so! It’s a big show! Can’t believe that the show is SO stacked that we start with the OverDrive Championship match.
I was going to fill out predictions earlier the week. Sat down, pasted in the card, got to the first match ... and gave up trying to predict things. Reading the promos? Yeah, gave up trying to split between the two. Big win for Mania, unfortunate loss for Delikado, but I can’t imagine Deli being angry about the loss. Well written match, good balance of action and commentary, and given the action-heavy matches to come in the card that’s bonus points!Interesting win for Mark, too. A lot to work with there.
Long-ish segment from Logan/Sienna. Not bad, just ... long. It seems to be a critique that I’ve been putting out there for the past few pay per views. Maybe I’ve lost track of the length of things, or what they should be? Anyway, like i said, it was good. Logan came through stronger here, and I like the direction that the character is heading by the end of it.
Kash segment to start the next post off. What would the show be without one? Good insight into the character, good length too. I could get through it very quickly. Nice little in-joke in there haha. More powerful for the Kash character on the second reading too. Very nice.
And back to the action. Xtreme rules match with two of the new kids on the block. Quick, though you’re going to get that when someone doesn’t front (Shannell, right?). Hopefully this is a result that Tuhoa uses to get even more attention and move out of Meltdown. Good luck!
Nice little segment from Yarmouth/Raab. Gets their storyline along and keeps the feud boiling. I think Raab is going on an LOA or something for a couple of weeks? I heard something about that, yeah? But it keeps the flame lit, which is one purpose of a segment so well done to you both.
Then into an Azrael Goeren segment, then later into Level-One. Yeah, I thought this one was on the long side too. It was nearly as long as an Asylum promo! I saw the purpose of it, liked the interaction of two big names in the wrestling business, sets up the heel/heel-er dynamics, and really got me interested in Goeren. Just, the length got to me. But solid, really solid. I liked the teasing that these two will face down, which I’m sure will happen sooner or later anyway. I’m not sure if you two have ever faced off, but knowing how big and great you both are in this hobby of ours ... I can’t wait to see it happen in APW.
Biggs and CJ segment. I’m personally marking the heck out at the idea of the two working together. I’ve worked with Biggs the most in APW, and one of my most enjoyable feuds was with CJ (who I miss being on Asylum!). So the tease that they might be the last two here, working as a team tonight, is awesome. The fact that this might lead to something more significant in the future ... even more amazing! Then Goeren gets involved. Not sure about the CJ/Goeren history here, so it goes over my head.
Suicidal championship match. Good match-up here, it seems. Read both promos because I know how good Kash is at a pay per view but also wanted to get to know J-Hop. Hard to split the two. It really was. Kash got it at the end of the day because I think he’s more in the groove for an APW ppv. J-Hop, though, bad luck. I expect there ill be a title around your waist by the next one. You just watch. It was so close this time! I want to see it happen! Good match to really bring home the Asylum brand. Good stuff all round!
Next we get CJ and Keaton. Am I the only one who loves it when there are cross-brand segments happening? Yes? Oh well. Saint, well, I’ve been enamored with him since Experts last year, and as I said about CJ he was a big part of my 2011 so I always like seeing what he’s up to. Segment here is Keaton-heavy, though stands to reason. I really loved the teased tension here. It also really helps flesh out Saint coming over to Asylum. If there’s a CJ/Saint rivalry in the works, a sort of face-on-face one-up-manship going to happen, then I’m all for it. I would like to see more from them when possible.
Next into a quick segment from AC. You’ve been a bit quiet of late, AC. You went into a good match here, and the segment keeps it simple enough. I’m sure you’ve got something leading up with Logan, given what was said. That’s got me intrigued. Another good purpose for a segment. Well done.
Tap Out championship match up next. Great lead-up to the match and, really, I was rooting for TJ. Not because I don’t like Julius or think he doesn’t deserve the belt (he totally does!) but it would be great to see a break-out from Meltdown who has climbed up, worked hard, and is here now. Good match, if a little action-heavy at times. Ending ... yeah, ok, I get it. The ref saves the day. I think, at the end of the day, actually quitting could have given TJ more to work with in the future. I know that having to wear a loss is bad enough, but think of the storylines that could have come from actually saying those words? At the moment, you have a cliched approach after this: “The ref quit for me; I didn’t quit. I guess we’ll never know ... unless we get a rematch!” As opposed to the soul-searching, troubled megastar: “I quit. I did the one thing I promised I’d never do. How can I redeem myself?” I don’t know, I guess if I was looking at a loss, I’d be looking to make the most of it. Just my two cents. Great promos from both guys, and a great story leading up and told in the match. Well done.
Atken promo! Yay! First Asylum chamber promo for the night I believe. And, so far, the funniest! Hank as the weapon. Is it too cliched to say ‘classic Atken’? I think it shows that a character like Atken most definitely has a place in the main event (and it’s been begging to be filled for a long time!). Please keep up the work, Atken! I’ve been loving the past few weeks of work you’ve been doing. It also means that your podcasts get taken up with APW talk - which we all love!
Then into a Lively segment. Yes, another long one. Shorter than L1/Goeren, but still lengthy. I must be in the wrong with this, given how common they are, so take my comments with a grain of salt. It puts over the match, but moreso it puts over Lively. Might have been better had it been more about the match given the overall outcome of the match, but that’s just me. And ow could anyone predict that? I liked the motif/metaphor that was run throughout. Not bad here.
Then an Envi/Logan promo. I must confess: I didn’t know that these two were really walking the same path. Is it solely APW stuff here, or do you two know each other from the past? Great promo, nevertheless. Probably as long as a segment should be. I’ve been an Envi mark since he came up to OverDrive (noticed him on Meltdown but wasn’t sure if he could sustain the uniqueness on the big show, but he did) and this segment really gets him over (for me at least). There is a great voice in there - authentic and real. It’s amazing how some people can use the same words as everyone else, but for so much more effect. Even the little pauses, it’s just great. Envi is the future champion on OverDrive, no doubt! Great segment, from both gents. The JD in there at the end just ties it all together wonderfully!
Into the Xtreme championship match. Solid performance by all three. Funny that the winner is the only one who didn’t put in a segment (that’s not a slight on you, Nick. I just thought it a tad ironic). Good balance of action and commentary, I felt here. Very well written; usually triple threats get butchered but not at APW! Good, suspenseful points that an Xtreme title match can afford you, so to the match writer: Well done! And well done to the new champion! I know that Nick has been really working hard to not only get into the groove again but to get the recognition he’s previously had. Given the amount of feedback you’ve been seeking, and the improving you’ve been doing, it’s much deserved!
Goeren segment #3. Either he’s going to get to each and every participant in the chamber match (getting under people’s skin as the ref) or he’s just desperate for attention! Long again. Interesting to see how Mavin and Goeren interact. Marvin is starting to move into that face role (at least how I’m reading it on OverDrive) while Goeren is coming in to fill a heel spot. We’re quickly reminded of who Marvin really is. Lets us relive the Marvin from the lead up to Test for the Best, the tournament win, and the fallout there.
Now for the North American match. I’m always keen to see these because it’s a good sign of who to watch on Meltdown. Not just the match itself but the rps that people put out. Before we’re into the match ... who is Deion Sanders? A singer I’ve gathered. Is he supposed to be big and famous? Recent? Anyway. It takes a big effort to beat Lively on any normal day, but with a title on the line ... well, he’s going to make everyone work for it. Great match to the writer. It’s never easy to manage one like this. I was shocked that Lively went out before the final pairing. It means that the competition was big. And rightly so; going back and reading the promos of the last three I’d say that it was about right. Krunk and AJP? They are breakouts on Meltdown. And congratulations to you, Audrey. A great win there. No one will ever be able to take that away. Two female champions here in APW at the same time? My how APW has grown! Run with it, girl!
Part two of the Raab/Yarmouth segment. Not bad. Continues what was raised before. Do’t know if it was necessary. I mean, the first one really reminded us that there’s heat here. I don’t think we would have forgotten it by now. Just something to think about in the future.
OverDrive main event. What can be said about it? Best written match of the night. Probably of the year. It’s easy to write a match that you’re passionate about, but given the calibre of the megastars in the match it makes it both easier and more difficult. Easier because you’ve got so much more to work with but more difficult because ... how do you combine it all? Whoever wrote the match (sorry, I didn’t check the sign-ups) ought to be nominated for the award at the end of the year. Generally, the match had me excited from the very start. We knew who would make it far into the match and who wouldn’t given the posting discussions that had gone on earlier (not meant as an insult to anyone), so the early fighting was somewhat predictable. But after that, who knew! Level-One was my pick because he’s Level-One. After reading the promos, I had picked the last three (L1, Marvin, Biggs)but couldn’t split them. I think Biggs must have Level-One’s number haha! The final pairing was not something I had dreamed about, and I’d love to see Biggs and Marvin go head-to-head. I’ve not even thought about that before. Excellent match, truly, from everyone involved. Appropriately long and not a dull point in it!
Nice little segment from Casper after that huge match. Introducing us to the character, setting up some ideas. Not bad.
Battle Royal time! Nice intro from the commentators. Hard to comment on this because I didn’t read all the promos (only the ones from the people I knew well). But the match itself, yeah it was good. Never easy to wrangle so many people. I liked the weapons involved, despite my usual aversion to such things. Plastic lightsabre is probably the best from the night! The winner? Well, what can be said about Chris Strike? He put out a promo that would rival the chamber match participants who had to qualify to get there. Final two was probably appropriate. Well done to all those people who fronted for the match; it should give you something to work with in the future.
One new person that this match did introduce me to was Amy Zing. Interesting character, and a lot of potential there. Amy, put some stuff up on the feedback board and brave yourself for the comments you could get. There are a lot of people here that will help you tap into that potential and move you up!
Raab segment #3 too. Was Raab alluding to this on Twitter at all? I don’t know ... anyway, it explains the LOA that’s coming, so it serves a purpose. Not sure if it couldn’t have been done in the match with an injury that could lead to better storylines? Anyway, it’s short and sweet.
Followed by a nice little Hart segment. And then one by Atken again. These are the lengths I like (please, don’t read anything into that!). Shorter, to the point. Gets across what it’s trying to without having to read through, effectively, a promo. Get through them quicker and it keeps the show really rolling and focused on the matches and the actions, rather than the megastars and the words.
Then, Asylum main event. It would be crass to comment on my success, so I’ll simply thank those that helped me get back here and that thought I deserved a win. It was certainly a tight match! The OverDrive match might have had the bigger names from e-fedding generally, but I feel that the Asylum match had the big APW names; more home-grown talent. Yes, most people here have been/come from other feds I just mean to say that the characters have really developed and grown in APW more than anything it seems and that’s why this match has a different feel to it. I know Callahan wrote it. Even if I didn’t read it, there’s a way to tell: It’s meticulous. I mean, everything is planned and written so clearly and specifically that, well, it’s just flawless. Any other night it would be match of the night, but the OverDrive match just pipped it just because of the nature and build and then unfolding of the match. I was shocked to go from start to finish again. I was also shocked to see that AB was there from start to finish with me! Not that he made it to the final two, but because it was 1 and 2 ... you get the picture?
Anyway, the match also kept me on the edge of my seat. Some good commentary in there. If there’s one person who uses the commentary as it shoudl be (to develop the match AND tell the story, not one or the other) it’s Callahan and people should take note. Great action, great moves in there, great balance of everything. What else to say?
Overall, a spectacular show. If anyone needs evidence why we are the best few out there, you just need to look at this show. All the matches were signed up by the end of the first day just about. And it’s not like other feds I’ve been in where they only get signed up because people sign up just because they are told to/get points/etc. You can tell the people who write our matches really care, really think, and really want to write a good match. It doesn’t matter if they are in it or not, they are just writing great stuff. There isn’t one bad match in here. Not one. Nothing weak or anything. It’s amazing. I’m so proud and happy to be in APW because of the calibre of the shows, specifically the matches.
Segments, look, I think people need to be talking more with other participants in matches (especially if there are many other people in them) to make sure that the segments have relevance and are powerful. Otherwise, you get an abundance. I’m of the school that think segments aren’t all too helpful on a pay per view unless it’s to have the final word on a feud before a match. The match is the important part. I think length and relevance are things to consider. All the segments here were good ad they were all relevant to the match. But it got to saturation point, and any more would have just been overkill. Anyway, that’s just my opinion on it all. Take it or leave it.
Everyone who promo’d and wrote segments and (importantly) wrote matches should be commended.
And, of course, Jeff deserves a specific mention because he’s a boss (and the boss) for putting it all together.
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Post by T-Marv on Oct 30, 2012 8:42:50 GMT -4
Maybe I’ve lost track of the length of things, or what they should be? Makes since now that you're dating James.  |
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Post by Mark Mania on Oct 30, 2012 8:44:42 GMT -4
Boom!
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Post by Evan De Parker on Oct 30, 2012 9:30:08 GMT -4
Excellent opener for the show with Delikado and Mania. I was a bit curious as to how the match was going to work, but I like the style that was chosen. This easily could've become a spotfest but it really highlighted both Megastars' strengths, so kudos to the writer. Congrats to Mania for the win. I was entertained by both of your RPs and wouldn't have been disappointed with either result after what you produced. It was followed by the Sienna/Logan segment which I enjoyed working on Logan with. Sienna's purpose was to cast doubt over Logan regarding the other competitors in the NA Title match including his "untrustworthy" tag team partner while playing on his history with Sienna. Now that I see it on the show, it did come off longer than I thought it did, but we're proud of it. Next... Interesting introduction of a security guard-character for Kash. I can't wait to see how he plays out in his role. Side characters are always cool to have. The Xtreme Rules match from Meltdown afterward was a fun little write-up and I'm a fan of the Finnish Phenom character. I'm highly disappointed in Shanell for no-showing. I hope everything's alright with her OOC. Regardless... Could've been a good Meltdown showcase, and it ended up becoming pretty one-sided. This was followed by a short but effective promo between Yarmouth and Raab. Very Attitude era-esque with the feel of it. I'd like to see this feud take off and escalate heading into Christmas Chaos. Unfortunately, it could've used a little more "bang!" because it was overshadowed by the highly entertaining Goeren segment that followed. The character is such a prick-- it's fantastic. I like the acknowledgment of Goeren/L1's history too. West was utilized brilliantly lol. Biggs/Gates happened after and did what it needed to do... Put that skepticism in our heads if Biggs would turn on Gates. Goeren's brief interjection afterward was nice. My only gripe was, I couldn't help but think it made the Gates character look just a tad weak. Overall solid series of segments. As I mentioned to Kash in the chat, very solid parking lot brawl match. Kash writes the most incredible gimmick matches, and there were some clever spots like the horns and high-beams from the fans, as well as the "mega" UTI. I'd have been pleased with either result since J-Hop is a very talented and underrated guy on the Asylum brand, but I'm happy that Kash's reign isn't over yet. He could do so much with it. I'd love to see him carry the belt all the way into Rasslemania. Interesting scene between Gates & Saint. I was kind of wondering what the Overdrive stars all thought about Saint's jump to the Asylum brand for the EEC, and Gates was the most logical person to question him. It was followed by a short promo that Smith that did its job in hyping the triple threat match and giving a nod to his history with Logan Alexander. The "I Quit" match was entertaining. A few things about the match irked me, including the incorporation of generic Farquhar thugs. I thought their presence could've been executed a little better... It didn't hurt the rest of the match much, however. It sold both men's strengths, and I completely understand the ending, but it was a very predictable and unsatisfying one in the event of TJ losing. I think that TJ is one of the most talented writers to come off of the Meltdown brand, but compared to Farquhar, TJ is the one of the two that needs to come out of the match looking stronger even in a loss-- so again, I understand it. I still don't enjoy for "I Quit" matches to end like that. If TJ had been completely mauled and incapacitated for an unhealthy amount of time, the ending would've made that much more sense and had both characters look like beasts. Fantastic promo between Phil and Reginald! I feel that it got overlooked by most-- but Phil Atken is brilliant. Wanting to use Hank and/or Dirk as a weapon is a unique way of thinking. He'd have been stupid not to inquire about it! The following Lively segment was entertaining as well. At first I thought it would be corny, but coupled with Phil's segment, it made for a nice little series of comic-relief bits despite having an air of seriousness about them. Next was the Evan/Logan segment which I enjoyed doing as it promoted continuity. M&M ended up getting a little bit of revenge on Evan from Meltdown and it, again, touched on their history with each other over the years. I added the bit with John Dionysus at the end, again, for continuity. I hope you don't mind, Farq! I had a lot of fun writing the Xtreme Title match as well. I love writing Falls Count Anywhere matches, and making it triple threat added a whole new level of uncertainty. I'm proud of a lot of the spots in it that many people skimming the matches may overlook, and I hope everybody else enjoyed it as well! The Goeren segment afterward wasn't as strong as his first few appearances, methinks. The bit with the lack of M&Ms, and the dismay in having a public locker-room were both expertly done. I guess I can't be mad at he and Terry being chums since it adds some more suspense to the Overdrive Elimination Chamber, but the segment itself seemed to drag on for quite some time-- so I suppose now I can understand people's qualms with the Sienna/Logan segment. There wasn't much payoff for all this until the very end, but it was an enjoyable payoff-- or tease. Whichever you'd like to call it. I enjoyed every second of the Last Man Standing Elimination Match. The order of eliminations was a little surprising at times, but nothing that would take away from the match. I was surprised by, excited for, and subsequently disappointed with Young Mannie's special guest. The best part about him was that he ate a Stryke Force from Alexander halfway through the match, which made me laugh out loud. I'm a bit bummed that Lively wasn't in the final two, but Krunk has improved by leaps and bounds on Meltdown and definitely deserves his moment. Also, as someone said, the action and spots were simple, but damned entertaining. My only complaint is that the match became a finisher-fest toward the end. Big congrats to Aubrey J. Parker and to Meltdown for having a Face champion for the first time since its inception. Uhhh... Interesting introduction by Kaylyn James Evans? I'm a fan of her work from being able to RP with her in the past, but I'm not sure how I felt about this segment. I suppose it works in building hype around a new character and the original favorite for the Battle Royal match. Yarmouth/Raab brawl. Kept short and sweet, and again, more hype for the Japanese Deathmatch Battle Royal. It's cool to see Knuckles vaguely involved in this as well, as it gives all three characters something to do after the PPV. Afterward was the Overdrive Elimination Chamber which I thought was beautifully done. The first elimination wasn't surprising under the circumstances, but the person to score the win and the fashion in which it was done caught me off guard. I'm beyond excited to see where Noble-Hart goes from here, and I thought having Terry blindside Chris (just like old times?!) for the pin was a nice touch. There was no obvious interference by Goeren, but who knows if something will be revealed in the aftermath? The finish was very well-done and there were several times while reading the match where I thought Biggs had it. Kudos to all six men and a huge congrats to Terry for retaining. Uhhh... Strange debut from Casper Grey. Seems like a strange, prick-ish character. Can't wait to see where this one goes. Not a fan of barbaric, unnecessarily hardcore matches like the Japanese Deathmatch. I appreciate how it was written, and the type of match is beyond the writer's control, but I just... Can't stand them. For what it was worth, the action was entertaining in a campy, backyard-wrestling fashion. It made Amy Zing and Deviticus look quite impressive in their debuts despite coming up short. One of my favorite parts of the match was Raab going apeshit after his elimination and setting Yarmouth up for disaster, which Knuckles took advantage of, promoting more continuity from earlier in the night. Knuckles almost got it, and I would've loved to see Knuckles v Kash for the Tap Out Title, but Strike earned the win and should have just as good a feud with Kash. Perhaps even better. Who knows? I'll be watching. I LOL'd at President Jeff capitalizing on the "FELLA!" popularity... Er... If you wanna call it popularity. It almost overshadowed Raab getting suspended. The Chris/Kylie segment afterward was powerful. Even in its short length, it's probably one of my favorite 2 segments of the entire night. The Asylum Elimination Chamber was great, as I thought it would be. Every single second featuring Michael Callahan was amazing. His reaction to being eliminated was superb and actually made me feel sorry for Anthony Bailey. He got completely mugged. But everything just worked well-- even the spot with Phil Atken, who had a surprising showing in this match. I was honestly certain it would come down to Sally and Rebel, but the way things went were just as good. I've always been a huge SalTal fan so having her win the World Heavyweight Title was a very satisfying end to an above-average PPV. |
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Post by Reaver on Oct 30, 2012 10:37:17 GMT -4
u mean the suicidal championship right envi? |
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Post by Evan De Parker on Oct 30, 2012 10:38:58 GMT -4
Whoops. Yes. That.  |
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Post by Metrodamus on Oct 30, 2012 12:53:35 GMT -4
Maybe I’ve lost track of the length of things, or what they should be? Makes since now that you're dating James. Fucker ... |
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Post by Chris Strike on Oct 30, 2012 13:28:17 GMT -4
Maybe I’ve lost track of the length of things, or what they should be? Makes since now that you're dating James. Shouldn't that be "sense," T-Marv? >_> #GrammarNazi |
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Post by T-Marv on Oct 30, 2012 13:43:59 GMT -4
Makes since now that you're dating James. Shouldn't that be "sense," T-Marv? >_> #GrammarNazi Quit trying to distract from James' tiny penis |
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Post by Lord Raab on Oct 30, 2012 15:08:35 GMT -4
Actually guys and girls with the last Stefan/Jeff segment. That wasn't written by me. That was Jeff's idea. I didn't even know he was going to do this segment until a few days before the PPV was written up. It was something that had to be done because of the trouble Stefan has caused in the company and slagging Jeff off on twitter was something he has actually been doing along with challenging him for a match.
I have PMed him to say thanks on doing that because it was something I wanted done just to hype the whole Stefan/Yarmouth feud more. Honestly I think if Jeff done the injury thing it would be far too you know not realistic on how the match was written and plus that's far too faceish. That's the reason why it was done that way.
It's true that I am going on LOA for almost a month so yeah that's why the segments that me and Yarmouth did were at the PPV rather than the Asylum shows because I wouldn't be able to do one segment let alone two RP's for the show. If you noticed on the last segment that it was a little different with Stefan spitting in Yarmouth's face just in a way setting up for the Stefan/Jeff segment after the deathmatch. Just wanted to explain about two things that's all.
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) Sally is an incredibly deserving winner, storyline wise it was a long time coming and the writing Sam has put forward backs that up. Callahan you done a great job with the match, I mean obviously I was involved so I was bound to be drawn into it, but I really was grabbed by it. 
