Survive and Conquer Feedback and Discussion

[President Jeff]

There you have it. The 5 year anniversary show is posted.

Thanks to Tmarv, Evan, Jules, Robina, Biggs, Callahan, Atken and Gooch for writing matches

Thanks to Knuckles, Evan, Jules, AC, Logan, Amy Zing, Kurt and Lively for segments.

If I missed someone, let me know.

Feedback is appreciated. Tell me what you liked, didn’t like. This feedback isn’t only for me, but for the people who wrote matches and segments.

Also use this thread to talk about the show

[A.C. Smith]

Just a quick note, but Logan should get credit for the segment I sent in as well.

[Michael Callahan]

And Atken for writing a good chunk of our match.

[President Jeff]

fixed

[Speede]

I just have one thing to say...

Quoting Terry Marvin...

"I'm confident in my writing and after the year I've had, for good reason. But I'd never presume in a million years to win this match....not OOC anyways."

Fuck. You.
Nah, just kidding. Congrats you crazy bastard.

[Aurora Jansen]

What an amazingly huge PPV put together and ready to roll so quickly. Every one of you that had a hand in that deserve muchas kudos. It was nervewracking being a part of it with a character that had been away so long, but I had a ton of fun preparing for her promo and I'm so jazzed with how well she did.

You guys deserve a massive round of applause for pulling this off so successfully with so many people entered in. This was fun, fantastic stuff and I for one can't wait until next year!

[Matt Slater]

Congratulations to Terry Marvin for winning this tremendous match. Finally an APW person won their own match! haha

Also congrats to Sally, Rex and Fury for getting into the Final Four. An excellent effort was shown from each of you.

In fact, everyone made a great effort this year. I would have hated to be one of those judges after seeing the quality of the RP's that were being posted. I did help judge the S&C in 2012, but this by far surpassed that one; not just in wrestler quantity, but in content.

Finally, I was so shocked I got into the top 10. I imagined that I would be Top 20 perhaps, but knowing I made it that far is just an amazing accomplishment.

Thanks to Jeff and the staff members in APW for being friendly and warm during this time. I'll definitely be participating in S&C 2014.

My goal next year? Final 4.

[Reya Serra]

This was simply amazing. All the way around just amazing. Congrats to T-Marv. You earned it, man.

Everyone in the top 10 was spectacular. From Sally, CJ, Specter, Slater just...it's like their on a whole other level.

As for me, I find a few ironies as it relates to me in the match in that I eliminated someone the exact way I was eliminated and I was the 22nd person to enter and 22nd person to be eliminated lol

Also, it's safe to say I lost both of my wagers...feel free to get in touch with me to cash those in C.J. and Specter lol

In closing, and I'm glad my elimination could happen this way without any input into it at all, I could think of no better person to eliminate me than Mina...she's awesome. :$ <3

Great job everyone.

[A.C. Smith]

On the whole? Awesome, AWESOME PPV.

More bullet points below:

- Most importantly: All of the match writers did incredible jobs, especially Jeff with the monster that is the S+C match. Every match was stellar, and they all came right after the other, which gave every single match a main-event feel.

- Congrats to Terry, who's doing his best Tiger Woods impression by winning everything in sight. Now, someone go move the fire hydrants away from his driveway!

- I'm happy with my showing; wish I'd lasted longer, but Smith had a couple eliminations, got the rub from Jeff on commentary, and walked out still the Xtreme Champion, so I can't complain too much.

- Thanks to Logan for collaborating on the segment with me. The two of us have known each other for a long time, and I've got great respect for his work, so it was great to work with him again in some capacity.

- Also, thanks to Michael Lively. I've said it before and I'll say it again, I'm really proud of the way the A.C./Lively feud has gone, and something tells me it's not quite done just yet.

- Gonna be brutally honest: I thought the ending to Noble/Hart was way overdone. That's in no way a knock on their handlers, who I think are awesome people, nor a knock on the work they do or the angle, which up until this point was exceptional. That said, the ending just seemed...off, and as a general rule, I don't like it when a character's career ends in death.

I realize I'm probably in the minority there, and I don't want to cause any trouble by saying how I feel, but that's my two cents.

That said, I need to stress, again, that I'm huge fans of Noble and Hart and all the work that they do, and that I thought this was an awesome, awesome event, possibly the best I've seen since coming to APW.

[Gordon Fury]

I would like to thank, first and foremost, the entirety of APW for hosting this fucking awesome event. I had no idea about this fed or this match before I signed up, and I am really glad that I do now. Thanks to every single person who Rp'ed, as this match would not have been nearly as Epic if only 20 or so people did lol.

Also, Thank you to the writers for your hard worl

Congrats to T-Marv for the much deserved win. Also, don't worry, no one noticed that you completely ripped off Sally's Rp .

Congrats to Sally and Rex for awesome showings, as well as everyone else who made the top 10.

Also... FUCK YEH 4th PLACE ON MY FIRST GO!

...I mean, good game

[President Jeff]

I don't want to take all the credit for the Survive and Conquer Match. Biggs wrote the match beginning at the final 11. So he deserves credit as well

[Level-Two]

This was crazy as fuck! I'm still rolling off the adrenaline - I don't know why I even get that way just reading an event, lol - but nonetheless... WOW.

Congratulations to our special winner and everyone else who came out and did their thing! I can't wait to get to the rest of the show - I just couldn't help myself.

[kiddynamo]

Everyone did a great job. I thought I had a shot at top 10 (and if that one wasn't enough, I clearly don't have it in me) but everyone did a great job and deserved their spots.

I'll try to post stats tomorrow depending on my work schedule.

[Buckson Gooch]

That was insane. I think the right guy won! This is one of the coolest concepts I've ever been involved in.

Congrats to the big winner and all of the champions who walked away.

I challenge any fed on the internet to have the quality of RPs like we had in the 75 for S&C and for all of the matches.

Great showing by all of those who RP'ed.

Top notch work this week, everyone!

[Level-Two]

Jan 27, 2013 22:03:08 GMT -4 kiddynamo said:

Everyone did a great job. I thought I had a shot at top 10 (and if that one wasn't enough, I clearly don't have it in me) but everyone did a great job and deserved their spots.

I'll try to post stats tomorrow depending on my work schedule.

Don't be too hard on yourself. In my opinion (pfft, whatever that's worth) your RP was one of my personal favorites.

I don't have the insight of the judges seeing as they read all the rp's and I still haven't but you were definitely in the back of my head when I was writing my rp for Vannah.

Good luck in OWF, I was glad to see you come back very strong this year.

[kiddynamo]

The thing that got me both years was the word count. I don't know how you guys manage to work with that all the time. I literally had to cut off my chapter 4 because of that (which I'm assuming is what put off the judges)

[Lord Raab]

You aren't the only one struggling with the word count. I always have that problem as well Kid. You know that you could've gone a little over the 4000 word count.

[Johnny Rebel]

Jan 27, 2013 22:53:39 GMT -4 kiddynamo said:

The thing that got me both years was the word count. I don't know how you guys manage to work with that all the time. I literally had to cut off my chapter 4 because of that (which I'm assuming is what put off the judges)

Don't be so down on yourself. You have nothing to be ashamed of... it was one of my favorite RP's of the cycle as well. That's the nature of judging sometimes.

You represented OWF well.

[T-Marv]

Jan 27, 2013 22:53:39 GMT -4 kiddynamo said:

The thing that got me both years was the word count. I don't know how you guys manage to work with that all the time. I literally had to cut off my chapter 4 because of that (which I'm assuming is what put off the judges)

First, you were one of my favorite RPs, so hold your head up.

Second, Don't come on here all cordial after posting a complaint thread on your home federation. You have a problem with my rp... tell me. Don't bash me publicly. Also, I didn't COPY HIMYM. I used it as an overall theme and added my own twists to it.

Third, there's no hard feelings here bro. You did great. I thought you should have been in the top 10.... but Complaining about it does you no favors.

[Level-Two]

Heh, Kiddy was handling Alone too? I love that RP as well... WHAT THE FUCK!? STOP IT. STOP IT NOW. Kinda jealous... I would've signed both L1 and Vannah up if that was the case.

[President Jeff]

Had I known Kid Dynamo and Alone we're the same person, I wouldn't have allowed that to happen. Not cool taking a spot from someone else who may have wanted to be in the match.

[T-Marv]

Feedback:

The "other" matches on the card were SPECTACULAR especially the NA title match. It was the BOMB. Great job by everyone writing matches.

The segments, though few, were well written and got the job done.

As for the S&C match, JEff you have always been and continue to be a BEAST. Thank you for once again writing that match. Biggs, you hit the top 11, so give yourself a pat on the back. That was KICK ASS for sure.

Dear Judges. Thank you for taking time out of your schedules and reading 75 rps to a point where you could sufficiantly judge them. You guys rock!

Great PPV

[Johnny Rebel]

Jan 27, 2013 23:57:43 GMT -4 President Jeff said:

Had I known Kid Dynamo and Alone we're the same person, I wouldn't have allowed that to happen. Not cool taking a spot from someone else who may have wanted to be in the match.

LOL. Every time I think this kid has righted wrongs, he pulls something else out of his hat.

[C.J. Gates]

Alright, so here are my thoughts on the show.

I thought all of the matches were well done. All of those title matches were well done, and maybe (just maybe) some of them will continue into Rasslemania to help build that card to it's heights. Should be some awesome stuff coming out of those matches, so congrats to the match writers.

As for the S&C match itself...

Mind-blowing awesome. Admittedly, I was a big lackadaisical early on in the match, but after I got in there, I was engrossed. I also didn't think I'd hit the number I did (5th...damn you Terry!!!) but I'm grateful for it. And if I had to be eliminated, I'm glad there was the chance to further the story with Marvin, cause it provides TONS of opportunities. Gonna be a fun month!

Many thanks to everyone that was involved in the match. It's always awesome to do some interfed stuff like this, on this large scale, and awesome to see so many different styles and characters. Some of them surprised me more than I thought they would. So once again, big thanks to EVERYONE who participated (even those that no-showed since they provided fodder).

As far as the other bits...if all of that is true, then I can only shake my head. I do believe Jeff even put a disclaimer of one character per, so that's a bit annoying that someone had the idea to sign up twice (even if Jeff didn't have a disclaimer, to sign up twice is a bit unfair to people who wanted to be apart of it). And to complain on the home boards about the outcome? Seems in bad taste to me. But then again, everyone views and rates RPs differently. That's why we had 4-5 judges, to get different views on RPs. It's not like only people in APW were judging this thing.

I know I probably shouldn't prod the fact, but just wanted to voice my thoughts. Jeff and company do a great job of putting this together, and to have some bad vibe connected to it, just seems in bad taste.

I might have more in depth feedback tomorrow after work.

And don't worry, Reya, I'll hit you up for the match...might get you a message tomorrow about it.

Once again, thanks to all the writers and to those that participated. I'm still riding the high of coming 5th, but loved every minute of it, from the RPs that I managed to read (I'll eventually get to them all) to the match itself. Awesome job.

EDIT:
Oh, and congrats Terry . Forgot it before, but seriously. To win this kind of match...some kind of beast mode lol

[Pepsi]

First I want to say it was an honour to judge this event for the third year in a row. It's always a pleasure to do. This year was the most difficult yet because of the amount and the fact that it was a very even field creatively speaking. There really weren't a lot of rp's that stood out far above the rest of the pack so it was hard to narrow it down. With how tight it was people who made #30 on my list were not far removed from the quality I found in the top 5, it was just very even.

As for the event itself, I really enjoyed it. I have mostly just skimmed the earlier matches, and will eventually read them in it's entirety, but after investing the time in judging 75 rp's I was really eager to see how the results for the survive and conquer match turned out. It was a very entertaining read, though I admit I had to take a break when it got down to the final 10 as my eyes were starting to hurt.

Kudos to Jeff and Biggs for pulling off a 100 man Rumble/Cell/ladder match coherently without turning it into a giant convoluted mess. These type of matches are hard to write when you've got 30 people, let alone 100, so kudos to you guys.

I hope to be able to write a full review of the show in the next week or so, while also giving feedback to those who messaged me. I just wanted to make sure to give full credit to everyone involved, especially Jeff. Running a fed is hard work, and I can honestly say I have never seen a fed head with the amount of dedication he has. The fact that he put together a match like this, wrote much of the match himself, put all the results together, and posted them on time is huge, and you sir deserve a standing ovation for it.

[Tritch]

Thank you for this opportunity. It was a lot of fun, and I can't wait for next year.

Congrats to Terry and Sally for the top two.

Amazing show, Jeff & Co.

[Reaver]

how do i leave feedback that hasnt already been said? sure i was a lil disappointed i didnt make top 10 but as i said on the podcast, if u cant be satisfied with ur rp then it isnt worth it and i wouldnt change a damn thing on mine cuz im that proud of it ;D ;D

every match leading up to S&C was done well. (yes i did go back and read them) but thats the thing about the match writers here, they r ALWAYS on top.

as for the match itself, Jeff, Biggs, STELLAR job. these guys know how to sell their guys very well and its worth it to read. (no im not kissing ass lol) this is the exact reason im in APW, for the talent lvl here and if ur serious about becoming a better rper....this is where its at.

im sorry i didnt do better but again, i wouldnt change my rp for anything. b rdy for hell next yr!!! (as if i didnt bring it this yr )

oh, and im also very disappointed in dynamo. 2 guys? cmon man u did so well, y do that to us? and now the complaint board? SMDH...... terrys rp was well deserved. i AM interested in wats being said although i wouldnt b butt hurt if i didnt see it.

again well done guys, way to rep APW. i totally called it from the beginning LOL!

[domingotfwf]

Overall I think it was a damn good show and enjoyed being a part of it and representing TFWF. It sucks that there were so many no shows, but it isn't something you can control. I was wondering if there was an actual tally of who ranked where for this match, though, as where you finished in the match isn't actually where you finished overall. Or was it just the top ten that were actually ranked?

[SalTal]

Watch this space.

[warrenpeace]

well written show. Clearly you all did a lot of good work.

ALTHOUGH

I had no idea I had a match? Or I would have put an rp up lol. Sorry for dropping the ball there. I should have double checked.

and also hope you guys like the banners. I kept the same the theme as the main banner. with big ben