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Post by Level-Two on Mar 11, 2013 18:23:39 GMT -4
Why all the hasty voting all of the sudden, L1? You're bouncing back and forth more than Kyd Dynamo. How many votes have you thrown down in the past two hours? As many as I see fit. Maybe you should consider throwing one down and actually try being useful for once.
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Post by Level-Two on Mar 11, 2013 18:26:15 GMT -4
Nope. Just how the game of mafia works. I think the mafia is fucked but I don't expect them to roll over and admit it. Callahan is doing his best to defend himself... but when it comes down to it he's the best lynch today.
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Post by Nathaniel Havok on Mar 11, 2013 18:27:51 GMT -4
Nope. Just how the game of mafia works. I think the mafia is fucked but I don't expect them to roll over and admit it. Callahan is doing his best to defend himself... but when it comes down to it he's the best lynch today. You got it, dude. ...Rebel should LOVE this. Vote: Mr. Callahan
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Post by The Soul Of Philly on Mar 11, 2013 18:41:24 GMT -4
EBWOP I have to say this, and I really hope I'm wrong... But why aren't we looking into TJ?!?!? I've went back through the game, and read a lot of stuff from him that kind of rubs me the wrong way. His vote/unvote/excuse on Knux (who ends up dead right after), his "I'll drop the hammer" comment, without ACTUALLY being confirmed town (because that would sure do the trick)(sarcasm), and for the most part, has laid low without ACTUALLY laying low. Am I missing something, or are we just SURE that TJ isn't a threat? ...Sorry, TJ. Just saying. Don't be, the name of the game is suspicion. You make a sound case, but first thing, you did the exact vote/unvote/excuse on Papa, now while you're confirmed town, doesn't mean you didn't. Shit happens. Second, can I ask why dropping the hammer on someone without being confirmed town be an issue, I honestly don't see it. I offered to drop the hammer because while my role has a certain degree of power, its by no means a traditional "power" role the town can win without me and my role. As far as Knux ending up dead on the same night that I made a vote (that I unvoted and dropped the entire case for as soon as I saw the clearance), I could easily say I was framed, that the experienced scum players saw a chance to frame me, but I think it's more likely a coincidence that Knuckles died on the night following my vote/unvote. As far as the night goes, like I said, I wasted a one shot on Trevor or Jules, depending on when AC made the decision to swap the two, and got nothing. I chose to use my one shot last night as I had nothing in the previous day phase to check. Thoughts on the day actions thus far, we've narrowed it down to myself, callahan, rebel, jules, and pancho then yes? My thoughts - The case for myself being scum, I guess, has been stated above in Havok's quote, if there is more, feel free to add to it. I stated my case as myself being town against the "scum" case presented. - Callahan, extremely quiet and low-laying play. Was the first to support the case that Rebel could be silenced. T-Marv says that he feels it was either Papa or him to be at the scene of the crime last night. He claims either T-Marv is lying or suggest that the scum have a role that is a bastard role, one that allows people to become others when followed and that he hasn't visited anyone on any night - Rebel, quiet for three straight days without modkill, claims to be silenced the last two nights. Offers nothing as far as any info, unless it was a role blocking siliencer (IMO, unlikely to have those two roles combined. Been done before, but unlikely I think) - Jules, replaced a player late in the game, a player who was quiet for sometime. Case for him being town, he's new and possible power role which is why Trevor was replaced rather than modkilled. - Papapancho, new player yet made it this far into a APW game, normally the newest players are the first ones out, T-Marv claims he visited Knuckles last night. PP claims roleblocker, which is plausible. Also claims to be busdriven into Knuckles if at all. Vote: Rebel Between he and Callahan are who I'm thinking is scum. I see everyone else is voting Callahan, but I feel that Rebel is the better choice myself because he hasn't presented a case rather than "his word" that he's town. I could give you guys my word that I'm related to Martin Luther King Jr., doesn't mean it's true. Plus, he tried to put doubt into L1's townness(? that's the word right?) with his "why all the jumpy voting" (paraphrased) post. At least callahan has put up a valid arguement that I KNOW can be checked into.
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Post by Michael Callahan on Mar 11, 2013 18:44:23 GMT -4
Nope. Just how the game of mafia works. I think the mafia is fucked but I don't expect them to roll over and admit it. Callahan is doing his best to defend himself... but when it comes down to it he's the best lynch today. No, I'm not. You're pushing pretty hard for this and I'm not sure why. I don't suspect it's because you're scum but because there's string-pulling going on here somewhere and I'm being set up. I'm not being funny, I know I'm no Sally Talfourd but I'm not Bacon either. I'm aware that Terry Marvin is "cleared" and that Chaz is backing him, but I'm telling you now I have not made a single night action so far and that is straight-up fact. I'd have more to gain by trying to go for some bluff lie then denying what appears to be concrete evidence and L1, you're not stupid. You know how the game works. You know that I'm in a rock and a hard place and that getting out of it is practically impossible. It's the most obvious set-up and frame, one that they knew I would walk into because it's not exactly easy to say "Oh, y'know that action that I said I didn't? It's a lie" but in the end? I didn't do it. That's all I have to say on the matter at this time. If you have any questions, fire away.
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Post by The Soul Of Philly on Mar 11, 2013 18:51:33 GMT -4
So you're saying that you have visited a single person this entire game thus far. Callahan.
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Post by Mark Mania on Mar 11, 2013 18:51:38 GMT -4
Ok, I've caught up a bit here but don't have a lot of time. I cannot confirm if Papa visited me night 1 because I got no alert about it. But, I did get role blocked last night. So, that could mean, whatever papa found out night one led him to wanting to have someone block me night two.
Me being role blocked is either by scum which means Rebel is lying or I was blocked by a town role blocker who forgot to get off the bandwagon of thinking I'm scum.
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Post by Johnny Rebel on Mar 11, 2013 18:54:33 GMT -4
I'm not sure what else I'm supposed to do but give you my word. The silencer isn't coming to come out and say, "Yes, I shut him up two days in a row!" I can roleclaim but that would be certain to get me killed during the night phase.
From the rules post alone - it's obvious there is a silencer in the game.
Nobody has been able to prove otherwise.
As I mentioned previously, please vote for me and when I flip town, you all know exactly where to point fingers.
Vote Callahan
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Post by Johnny Rebel on Mar 11, 2013 18:55:26 GMT -4
Ok, I've caught up a bit here but don't have a lot of time. I cannot confirm if Papa visited me night 1 because I got no alert about it. But, I did get role blocked last night. So, that could mean, whatever papa found out night one led him to wanting to have someone block me night two. Me being role blocked is either by scum which means Rebel is lying or I was blocked by a town role blocker who forgot to get off the bandwagon of thinking I'm scum. How in the world does you being role blocked have to do with me lying about being silenced?
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Post by Mark Mania on Mar 11, 2013 18:56:41 GMT -4
That was based off of L1's thought that there wouldn't be a role blocker and a silencer on the same scum team.
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Post by Michael Callahan on Mar 11, 2013 19:00:42 GMT -4
So you're saying that you have visited a single person this entire game thus far. Callahan. I am saying I have NOT visited a single person this entire game. Just to clarify, in case kooky wording gives dodgy results.
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Post by Level-Two on Mar 11, 2013 19:07:19 GMT -4
Weird. Now I'm just confused.
If there is some sort of bus driver stop messing around and just claim already, you're confusing the fuck out of us.
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Post by Level-Two on Mar 11, 2013 19:23:55 GMT -4
EWOP
No, what it proves is that AC Smith copied and pasted the rules from his last mafia run game into this one.
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Post by papapancho on Mar 11, 2013 20:06:36 GMT -4
Ok, I've caught up a bit here but don't have a lot of time. I cannot confirm if Papa visited me night 1 because I got no alert about it. But, I did get role blocked last night. So, that could mean, whatever papa found out night one led him to wanting to have someone block me night two. Me being role blocked is either by scum which means Rebel is lying or I was blocked by a town role blocker who forgot to get off the bandwagon of thinking I'm scum. You're days arn't adding up. I've already said I roleblocked you last night and you just confirmed. Clearly that means I didn't visit Knucks last night. So TMarv were you told that myself and Callahan visited knucks or were you given a clue and used your own deducing skills?
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Post by Michael Jennings on Mar 11, 2013 20:29:59 GMT -4
Unvote
I need clarification on all of this visiting Knuckles business because it's not making any sense.
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Post by T-Marv on Mar 11, 2013 20:57:12 GMT -4
UGH! I'm posting Meltdown... BUt I've already said my piece.
Callahan and Pancho visited Knuckles.
Truth be told, I only followed Callahan....not sure how results told me both Callahan and Pancho saw Knucks, but that's the results I got in my PM.
That's why I'm suspicious of Pancho.
That's why my vote stays.
There is no other information I can give to clear this up. Chaz was right about me.... I'm a tracker.... I got what I got for my result... That's it!
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Post by Mark Mania on Mar 11, 2013 20:58:45 GMT -4
So why did you role block me at all?
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Post by Buckson Gooch on Mar 11, 2013 20:58:56 GMT -4
Vote: Callahan
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Post by Michael Callahan on Mar 11, 2013 21:10:51 GMT -4
On what grounds? I didn't visit Johnny Knuckles. I haven't visited anyone in this game. T-Marv saying it does not make it so. This is a stitch-up.
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Post by Nathaniel Havok on Mar 11, 2013 21:11:38 GMT -4
2 more people take the jump, and we get one step closer.
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Post by Michael Jennings on Mar 11, 2013 21:16:04 GMT -4
I can verify that TMarv's info was not tampered with.
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Post by Level-Two on Mar 11, 2013 21:16:14 GMT -4
On what grounds? I didn't visit Johnny Knuckles. I haven't visited anyone in this game. T-Marv saying it does not make it so. This is a stitch-up. No, your story doesn't add up. For a frame up to be possible the mafia would've had to anticipate the watcher/tracker using their role on Knuckles and the role in which would be necessary to frame you does not exist - unless we're to believe AC smith made a new one up. Mix in the fact that you've been implicated by a townie, haven't been cleared yourself and finally claimed Vanilla - and we have a pretty good lynch on our hands. Don't worry though, we have a long enough rope for your buddies too.
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Post by The Soul Of Philly on Mar 11, 2013 21:18:29 GMT -4
Ok, something isn't right, and I have one question that will answer it for me. i did some research before I asked this question to make sure. This is the closest result to what Chaz is saying:
Havok, are you hinting/claiming you are an oracle?
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Post by A.C. Smith on Mar 11, 2013 21:21:47 GMT -4
VOTE COUNT
Callahan: 5 (Level-One, papapancho, Havok, Johnny Rebel, Buckson Gooch) Papapancho: 1 (T-Marv)
Again, with 12 players, it takes seven votes for a lynch.
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Post by Nathaniel Havok on Mar 11, 2013 21:23:00 GMT -4
Idk what my role would be called. And I'm currently on my iPhone. Wouldn't know where to look. I think AC might have made this role up on his own. Mod, can you confirm whether my role is made up by you, or if it's actually a role?
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Post by The Soul Of Philly on Mar 11, 2013 21:29:45 GMT -4
EBWOP
I ask because, while i know you're telling the truth about your role, there seems to be some confusion as far as T-Marv goes. Maybe if a name of your role could go, whatever confusion there is, will be removed.
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Post by A.C. Smith on Mar 11, 2013 21:30:21 GMT -4
Idk what my role would be called. And I'm currently on my iPhone. Wouldn't know where to look. I think AC might have made this role up on his own. Mod, can you confirm whether my role is made up by you, or if it's actually a role? I did not make up Chaz's role. And that's as in-depth as I'll go on that.
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Post by Michael Callahan on Mar 11, 2013 21:32:49 GMT -4
Fine. I'm done arguing. I've got nothing more to say.
Lynch me and seal the deal. But to the remaining town players, read the write-ups, consider long and hard why even when I flip I'm still not lying and you'll find out that the people pushing my lynch are the true scum players.
Tata. I'm off to bed. x
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Post by T-Marv on Mar 11, 2013 22:11:44 GMT -4
EBWOP I ask because, while i know you're telling the truth about your role, there seems to be some confusion as far as T-Marv goes. Maybe if a name of your role could go, whatever confusion there is, will be removed. There is no confusion... I'm right. Trying to save your scum brother?
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Post by T-Marv on Mar 11, 2013 22:12:43 GMT -4
Unvote
Vote: Callahan
He will flip scum.
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