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Post by Jason Cashe on Mar 23, 2013 16:42:07 GMT -4
It seems to me and again, I'm still learning. But it seems like Knuckles has confused a few people experienced or inexperienced even. TJ though hasn't responded to Knuckles question of what was done to him. Still between JamesV and Knuckles for this argument, I'm going to go with Knuckles as being scum because he seems to not care either way like it's more of a play than a true feeling towards it. Just seems fishy..
Vote: Knuckles
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Post by T-Marv on Mar 23, 2013 16:47:49 GMT -4
VOTE COUNT:
Knuckles - 6(TJ, Matt Stone, Chris Shields, CJ, LEVEL ONE, Kash)
James V - 1 (knuckles)
Yes, this is correct.
It still takes 11 to lynch
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Post by Kurt on Mar 23, 2013 16:50:15 GMT -4
Just a short post before I head to work:
I was also vanilla when the game started, and some-how became town-aligned as of last night. My role did change.
How many of us is that so far? Someone mentioned the theory that maybe the amount of people turning town corresponds to the amount of people recruited, but those numbers seem a bit lopsided thus far.
I'll have more later.
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Post by Pepsi on Mar 23, 2013 18:10:37 GMT -4
Personally I still can't get past Knuckles original claim that he was recruited to the town, and I thought he was fishy on day 1. I have waited to see if there would be something he would say to redeem himself as I remember from last game he was never really effective at articulating himself and given some time he may say something that made sense, but I am just not buying his claims at this point. Vote: KnucklesSAVANNAHI am always skeptical of those who say I am willing to vote for someone, but want to wait for some reason. In my experience (which is admittedly slight) this has often been a scum tactic to delay a vote they don't want F.O.S. Jules |
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Post by Nathaniel Havok on Mar 23, 2013 18:41:55 GMT -4
Firstly... Vote: KnucklesSecondly... Hey guys, sorry for the delay in posting. I wasn't one of the people eligible to be recruited. I started as town and was given a role. No valuable news to present. Are you 100% SURE you have no "valuable" news, Gooch? Be honest, or I'm going to toss a vote onto you next. |
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Post by Nathaniel Havok on Mar 23, 2013 18:42:34 GMT -4
EBWOP
Okay, that came out wrong. Tell us what you did last night, Gooch. Because I already know.
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Post by Level-Two on Mar 23, 2013 18:53:01 GMT -4
Co signed. Great point, Pepsi.
Whenever I hear something like this - I just know some shit is about to go down. A potential two for one scum deal day two makes me giddy inside.
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Post by Jules on Mar 23, 2013 19:03:32 GMT -4
SAVANNAHI am always skeptical of those who say I am willing to vote for someone, but want to wait for some reason. In my experience (which is admittedly slight) this has often been a scum tactic to delay a vote they don't want F.O.S. Jules You can be sceptical all you want. In my experience, making posts like this when someone isn't jumping on a bandwagon is a scum tactic to try and set something up, or try and badger them into joining in. We're early in the day, I've seen plenty of bad lynches on day 2 from over-zealous bandwagons. I'm not going to apologise or feel bad for allowing some time to see if Knuckles' 'out' would come to bear fruit. Anyway, I said I would wait for TJ and since TJ's post hardly comes to Knuckles' aid, I'm satisfied enough. vote: Knuckles |
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Post by Jules on Mar 23, 2013 19:09:44 GMT -4
EBWOP I have waited to see if there would be something he would say to redeem himself Got to be honest, I don't see how this is any different to what I did. You were waiting on Knuckles to say something, he said TJ could clear him. Knuckles hasn't said anything, so you voted; TJ didn't clear Knux, instead re-iterated he believes Knux is lying, so I voted. |
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Post by Buckson Gooch on Mar 23, 2013 19:25:26 GMT -4
I'm not going to role claim this early in the game. I learned my lesson from last time.
There is someone here who can clear me as town...I'll let them do it. I thought he already would've done it. Now is the time, bro.
If you are the cop watch me. I'm valuable and if I get lynched it will hurt the town.
I'm town. 100% town.
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Post by Pepsi on Mar 23, 2013 19:26:42 GMT -4
EBWOP I have waited to see if there would be something he would say to redeem himself Got to be honest, I don't see how this is any different to what I did. You were waiting on Knuckles to say something, he said TJ could clear him. Knuckles hasn't said anything, so you voted; TJ didn't clear Knux, instead re-iterated he believes Knux is lying, so I voted. Allow me to clarify the above statement. I have made my suspicions towards Knuckles from early on, but was not planning on voting for him. I also never stated that I was willing to vote for him. As he continued to dig himself deeper in a hole I decided to vote for him. The part about your post that made me skeptical wasn't the fact that you were waiting, but the reminder that we still have lots of time. I have seen this tactic used in my 2 previous games by scum in order to try and distract people from a pending lynch. This is where the difference between my statement and yours lie. I never stated my intention to vote for him, and never reminded people of the time we have, therefore I never stalled in any way. |
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Post by Buckson Gooch on Mar 23, 2013 19:26:49 GMT -4
EWBOP
Havok, if you know what I did, feel free to say. I'm not going to role claim. I think the role is pretty interesting and it looks to have been effective.
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Post by KJE on Mar 23, 2013 19:31:16 GMT -4
Im reading back and forth through today and honestly I am not sure where to start. Knucks, you are saying someone can help you say what you're saying is true, but that person is saying you're 100% Anti-town. That's not sitting right with me.
Vote:Knucks
As for the statement Jules made... I honestly don't find it suspicious at all. Sometimes you're just not comfortable voting. There have been many a times we have wanted to wait to hear what people had to say before voting them off.
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Post by Reaver on Mar 23, 2013 19:36:02 GMT -4
Ill deal with this when i get home
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Post by Level-Two on Mar 23, 2013 19:37:16 GMT -4
Buck, I will let Nathaniel Havok address your post because I don`t know what he knows but I do find it funny that you say you refuse to give any hints to your role as to avoid being targeted but in the same breath stress how important your role is to the town.
You still have lots to learn, grasshopper.
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Post by Buckson Gooch on Mar 23, 2013 19:53:54 GMT -4
I know, I'm trying to get better. But L1, I assure you that I'm town. My role may not be as important as I thought it was, but it's really neat and has played out well.
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Post by Pepsi on Mar 23, 2013 19:56:11 GMT -4
I know, I'm trying to get better. But L1, I assure you that I'm town. My role may not be as important as I thought it was, but it's really neat and has played out well. Quit while you're behind Gooch. I don't think he was questioning whether you were town, more just pointing out that if you are trying to conceal your role it's best not to reveal that you are valuable to every one. |
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Post by Buckson Gooch on Mar 23, 2013 20:02:00 GMT -4
Okay, thanks Pepsi.
Guys, I promise I'm not stupid. I'm just not getting the hang of this.
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Post by Jules on Mar 23, 2013 20:48:29 GMT -4
EBWOP Got to be honest, I don't see how this is any different to what I did. You were waiting on Knuckles to say something, he said TJ could clear him. Knuckles hasn't said anything, so you voted; TJ didn't clear Knux, instead re-iterated he believes Knux is lying, so I voted. Allow me to clarify the above statement. I have made my suspicions towards Knuckles from early on, but was not planning on voting for him. I also never stated that I was willing to vote for him. As he continued to dig himself deeper in a hole I decided to vote for him. The part about your post that made me skeptical wasn't the fact that you were waiting, but the reminder that we still have lots of time. I have seen this tactic used in my 2 previous games by scum in order to try and distract people from a pending lynch. This is where the difference between my statement and yours lie. I never stated my intention to vote for him, and never reminded people of the time we have, therefore I never stalled in any way. If it was nearer the deadline I'd agree you had a good point, but it's not. There was never a pending lynch either, and I'm stalling the hammer. Knuckles had what 3-4 votes on him at that time, it takes 11 to lynch. That is far from pending. But look, I don't want to get into a tit for tat with you here. I think it would be distracting, especially since we seem to be largely in agreement about moving the game forward. There are night actions that can settle these things. Right now we're just going to have to agree to disagree on our interpretations of what was said. |
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Post by Pepsi on Mar 23, 2013 20:54:37 GMT -4
Allow me to clarify the above statement. I have made my suspicions towards Knuckles from early on, but was not planning on voting for him. I also never stated that I was willing to vote for him. As he continued to dig himself deeper in a hole I decided to vote for him. The part about your post that made me skeptical wasn't the fact that you were waiting, but the reminder that we still have lots of time. I have seen this tactic used in my 2 previous games by scum in order to try and distract people from a pending lynch. This is where the difference between my statement and yours lie. I never stated my intention to vote for him, and never reminded people of the time we have, therefore I never stalled in any way. If it was nearer the deadline I'd agree you had a good point, but it's not. There was never a pending lynch either, and I'm stalling the hammer. Knuckles had what 3-4 votes on him at that time, it takes 11 to lynch. That is far from pending. But look, I don't want to get into a tit for tat with you here. I think it would be distracting, especially since we seem to be largely in agreement about moving the game forward. There are night actions that can settle these things. Right now we're just going to have to agree to disagree on our interpretations of what was said. Agreed. |
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Post by Nathaniel Havok on Mar 23, 2013 22:34:58 GMT -4
You visited JamesV, Gooch. Can you clear him, or tell us what you found out?
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Post by Buckson Gooch on Mar 23, 2013 23:54:31 GMT -4
I did visit JamesV, but I got no information. It was more of a preventative role with a nice little touch by TMarv. I'm town and I don't know what James is. I was getting a scummy read, so I used my night action on him.
Do I need to into further specifics.
I'd like to reiterate that I know there is someone who can clear me. I don't know why he's not pulling the trigger. I won't mention it b/c there may be a good reason he isn't.
I guarantee I'm town. Sorry I can't be more helpful.
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Post by Jason Cashe on Mar 24, 2013 0:11:47 GMT -4
Without going too much into anything, I am town. I can also vouch that Buckson is also town. Not sure if he was meaning me in his mention above but I can vouch for that 100%. Townies. If I did something wrong here then my bad.
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Post by Jason Cashe on Mar 24, 2013 0:22:49 GMT -4
I investigated Knuckles during Night One and got JamesV. My vote for Knuckles was because of the investigation I got back on JamesV. Does that tell anyone anything cause I'm getting it little by little but still TOTALLY clueless.
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Post by Buckson Gooch on Mar 24, 2013 0:26:44 GMT -4
Without going too much into anything, I am town. I can also vouch that Buckson is also town. Not sure if he was meaning me in his mention above but I can vouch for that 100%. Townies. If I did something wrong here then my bad. YAY! It is Jason Kash! I didn't want to say it at the wrong time. Thank you Kash. You're a beautiful man with tasty candies. We are 100% Town. |
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Post by Buckson Gooch on Mar 24, 2013 0:29:25 GMT -4
EWBOP
Now that I'm cleared as town, I'll drop the hammer vote.
Vote: Knux
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Post by Level-Two on Mar 24, 2013 0:41:02 GMT -4
I investigated Knuckles during Night One and got JamesV. My vote for Knuckles was because of the investigation I got back on JamesV. Does that tell anyone anything cause I'm getting it little by little but still TOTALLY clueless. Now you have confused the fuck out of me. You investigated Knuckles but your result came back on JamesV instead? Cant you clear JamesV then? Secondly, how do you then deduce Buckson Gooch is a 100% town aligned then when you used your action on Knuckles and got the result on JamesV? I`d be willing to say that there was a mix up with the names if you didn't use them twice. |
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Post by Buckson Gooch on Mar 24, 2013 0:45:22 GMT -4
I was immediately told that Kash was town on day one. I didn't want to release it too fast as I didn't want people to think I made the same mistake as last time. I can only assume that Kash was given my name as well when we received our roles.
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Post by Level-Two on Mar 24, 2013 1:00:10 GMT -4
I was immediately told that Kash was town on day one. I didn't want to release it too fast as I didn't want people to think I made the same mistake as last time. I can only assume that Kash was given my name as well when we received our roles. Thanks for the clarification. That sounds about right. We learned a lot today so hopefully the town has another good night and Knuckles flips anti town as anticipated. |
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Post by Level-Two on Mar 24, 2013 1:02:12 GMT -4
EWOP
Also, it goes without saying but we need a doctor on Jason Kash tonight. Maybe a dual watch to ensure he is not role blocked by one of the factions as well.
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