Rasslemania IX feedback and discussion

[President Jeff]

The show is posted. Never had someone help me put a show together before, hopefully everything is in there and in the right order


Thanks to everyone who wrote matches, Callahan, Tmarv, CJ, Biggs, Level One, Kash, Gooch, Jules, Evan, AJP, Dan, and Rebel (I think I'm forgetting someone, let me know)

And for segments, Thanks to Lively, Keaton, CJ, Mannie (even though his stuff didn't make the cut), Leon, Delikado, Robina, Tmarv and Evan. I'm sure I'm missing people due to people working together on stuff. Let me know so you can get your segment point


Leave feedback on the event here and even discuss it. I got a couple of big announcements tomorrow, so stay tuned for that

[Jules]

I will be leaving Feedback. I'm currently reading the show, and this year I am determined to read every last scrap of this show, so if my feedback doesn't appear for several days, there's your reason. But I will get it up.

[Smash INC]

Deli gets the Wu Tang award and I honestly believe there needs to be a genuine award for that, that's one of the moments of the year for me.

I'll try and get something proper up in a few days but right now I want to ensure I put some form of acknowledgement down for those who basically made the last couple of weeks possible.

In no particular order, Knuckles, Atken, Callahan, TJ, Reya Serra (from outside the fed), Marv, Delikado and Raab allowed me to use their character as a canvas in the roleplays I did for Rasslemania which involved far too much Metal Gear Solid 3 than I initially believed would happen. I feel like I'm missing a name there but thanks go out to them on a huge level.

As far as the segments for Rasslemania go, thanks to CJ, TJ, Roy Speede, Marv and Knuckles for allowing me to do something more direct with their characters. I was able to get what I feel was a decent amount of material from their ideas and contributions so I hope it came across well. I wouldn't have been able to contribute anywhere near as much as I did without them so ideally they should have the segment point from that.

Other than that, wow.

Wow is the only correct word and I've only skimmed things up to now, thank the Kindle for giving me the freedom to read this at my leisure which I shall be doing over the next few days.

It's miles better than 50 Shades at any rate.

[Evan De Parker]

Kaylyn helped me work on that segment.

I always say "I'll attempt to post feedback" but this time, I'm determined to. Great effort-- I'm only about halfway through, but it's looking good aside from some minor coding errors. I look forward to seeing the rest!

[Level-Two]

I haven`t read the entire show yet (up to borderland - kash) but to anyone who wasn't in the chat... the full L1 vs. biggs match will be posted in the house show boards.

There is a section missing from the match for anyone scratching their head reading it for the first time...

FEEDBACK will be coming soon. The main show matches have been great so far.

[Jules]

Jeff, there is a coding error near the end of the NA Title match, well not so much coding as formatting. After the announcement of the winner there is a [insert wrestler's name] that needs to be replaced with the winner's name.

I'll take responsibility for this since I was too lazy to write eight different endings, and simply gave a generic finish for all scenarios that just needed to be formatted to fit the winner.

[The Soul Of Philly]

I plan on giving feedback on this event. I will do it. I have to give feedback on Jeff's promo first. If there is a post RM podcast, I'll have some feedback there but I plan on leaving some written stuff here.

[T-Marv]

Will leave feedback ASAP.

Jeff, I had a segment in there.

Hope I did okay putting stuff together. My daughter had a fever of 104 so I had to leave around 7 to take her to the hospital. Sorry if that caused issue.

[President Jeff]

The thing in the NA title match is fixed.

The Hell in a Cell match is fixed. Google chrome likes to remove stuff when it goes over the character limit ;D

[biggs]

Here's the link for the full Hell-in-a-Cell Match:
apwprez.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=houseshow&action=display&thread=16716&page=1

Also, from top to bottom, this was a rockin' show! Not sure if I'll have time to do a full feedback because my boss is out of town this week, and with one of the Assistant Managers on maternity leave, I'm effectively in charge of the store on Monday and Tuesday.

In any event, quick thoughts.
-Triple Threat for the Xtreme Championship was a lot of fun! Props to Dan White on writing a creative and funny match.
-In fact, big ups to all the match writers! Not a bad match on the card.
-Congrats to the new champions, and those who retained. (Not naming names yet to avoid spoilers.)

I may or may not be able to take the time to go more in-depth, but great job, everyone!

[C.J. Gates]

I'll probably go more in depth at some point this week, but for now I just wanted to throw out a generic shout out.

Awesome job on the show, by everyone. I didn't fully read all of the matches yet, but the ones I did read, were amazing. Some top quality matches on this card and the writing showed that.

There were also some great segments, a lot of good stuff and props to Keaton for his segment idea. Got a lot of people involved in the show. Well done, sir.

The only thing that sticks out that might have lacked was the Hall of Fame ceremony, but it is what it is and was kind of an extra thing in a jam packed card.

Well done to everyone who helped out and BIG congrats to the winners! Looking forward to seeing what the new season has in store, story wise.

[Jules]

Here's a stat: the show consists of over 84,000 words. That's just the show, I've not even factored the roleplays.

That is a heck of a collaboration over a two-week period......

.....It's the equivalent of a writing a novel.....we did it in a fortnight!


......And it's going to take a heck of a while to read top to bottom.

[Jason Cashe]

So much involved with this show it's hard to take in. Do we have microphones inside the ring now? Hmm..Great show, lots of twists and turns and slams, some very clever spots! Can someone survive what Biggs went through at the end of that? After all else they both went through? That's almost Owen Hart bad. This was most likely Borderland's last APW appearance so I want to say that I thank him for the time he was involved and around. Regardless of how others feel about it, you were cool in my book man. Take care in whatever you do.

Possibly the longest show I've ever seen in eWrestling that I can stomach reading all the way through. Still reading some of it, I skipped some segments in anticipation for some matches and so many came through. The placement of the matches was greatly done and big Congrats to Raab for beating the Boss. I'm sure Havok hates you right now but Jeff might lower your pay now..You should have known the risks! haha.

[biggs]

Well, Kash, let's just say I've learned how to fall!

But in any event, I've already asked for a week off to sell the injuries.

[Level-Two]

Haha, Biggs would probably be dead in real life! Though, the impact wasn't described... maybe it was more like a flipping power bomb! I think everything else was very possible - though, extremely risky!

I also did not expect Biggs to make a cameo in the main event... probably would have went with a different finish, LOL!

Still reading through - not in order anymore. There is just too much for one night, lol

[A.C. Smith]

As some of you know, I'm on vacation, and I haven't had a chance to read 90% of the card yet. That said, credit to EVERYONE on the APW roster for the time it took to put together such a huge, high-quality product.

[Jason Cashe]

Also I was a HUGE fan of Delikado's Segment. However I'm pretty sure Anderson Silva doesn't speak English very good if anything but a few sentences. Still outstanding segment, full of laughter.

[Anthony Bailey]

To say that my drive for e-fedding has been revived is an understatement! Great card guys!! More detailed feedback coming later.

[Delikado]

Mar 24, 2013 23:26:07 GMT -4 Jason Cashe said:

Also I was a HUGE fan of Delikado's Segment. However I'm pretty sure Anderson Silva doesn't speak English very good if anything but a few sentences. Still outstanding segment, full of laughter.

He went that extra mile in his learning for Rasslemania. Only APW could achieve what we did with Silva here! ;D

[T-Marv]

Was it really Delikado or one of his evil Twins?

[Jason Cashe]

GREAT answer Delikado! Like a BAWSE! Haha

[Nathaniel Havok]

I'm fairly clueless about how/why Robina and I teamed up and interfered in the tag team match. At least, for the time being. Scratching my head a bit on that one right now.

I'll have a detailed feedback and reaction to the show, next year, after I finally finish reading the entire thing. Lol

[B.A. Styles]

Mar 25, 2013 0:25:52 GMT -4 Nathaniel Havok said:

I'm fairly clueless about how/why Robina and I teamed up and interfered in the tag team match. At least, for the time being. Scratching my head a bit on that one right now.

^ I second this, lol. ^

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Can I troll because I lost? ...Only joking, lol.

Overall every match was written brilliantly but the only match I have a slight complaint about was the Noble vs Hart match...sorry if I sound like a prick/dick/bastard/ugly-motherfucker but after reading something for SO long (btw, it took me 90 minutes to read the entire event) the type of ending that looked like a dark version of some soap...completely kills the point of the entire match. Hell, in my personal view, that ending made the 'over forty minutes' match look more like a gigantic segment. Other than that, all the matches were fun to read.

The segments were all enjoyable to read (btw I did make my own segment at Rasslemania so give me some credit for not being lazy, especially when I wote it in ten odd minutes, lol) but Delikado has to be, by far, the WEIRDEST yet most AWESOME segment I've read in my five odd ears of eFedding, lol.

Congradulations to all the winners, especially Fizzy Stefan Raab since (be prepared to correct me if I'm wrong) but isn't Jeff like undefeated at Mania? Meaning that Raab has just ended something that others tried and failed to do, which is impressive IC while I knew that she can beat anybody given the chance OOC.

Overall Views:
- My favourite segment was Delikado's.
- Mine and Havok's interference in the Tag Title match is baffling.
- The Biggs vs L1 match was AMAZING but my favourite match had to be the Tap Out title match, for how mindlessly violent it was.
- All the Champions deserve to be Champions (both in RPs and in the way they were written in the match).
- Longest fucking show I've EVER seen.

I guess I would give the IX a definate five stars, a key example of why Rasslemania will always be the "grandaddy of them all."

[President Jeff]

I'm not undefeated at Rasslemania. I lost at Rasslemania 1 and 2 and at 6 and I think against at 7

[Level-Two]

Mar 25, 2013 6:22:01 GMT -4 President Jeff said:

I'm not undefeated at Rasslemania. I lost at Rasslemania 1 and 2 and at 6 and I think against at 7

Yeah, I still remember John Green no showing, losing his title at mania in five minutes and President Jeff coming out to save the main event. Probably one of the most memorable moments of the ''old APW''

... now we're about to be in the era of the Rabb. Oh how things change. ;D

[James Stall]

*cough cough* I wrote a segment.


Great show guys. I have to say, as an outsider to this event the build on Twitter really got me incredibly excited. I was telling other people how much I was looking forward to reading the show even though I don't rp here. Admittedly, I don't know a lot about many of the characters and feuds going on here. However, I loved the Noble Hart match and thought it was a fitting conclusion to their feud. I didn't know how they could possibly top their confrontation at Survive and Conquer. But they did!

It was nice to see Evan Envi finally get that big win and become Overdrive Champion after Sam Strachon declared 2013 the year of Evan Envi. And a big whoo hoo goes out to Terry Marvin and Level One picking up huge wins #Sindicate4Life I'm so glad Terry and Sam struck up a friendship over twitter and now he gets to manage the Sindicate and make appearances here. I've already sent Terry a seg for the next Overdrive.

Congrats to all the winners, and you guys should really be proud of yourselves for putting on a fantastic show.

[Jason Cashe]

So I'm gonna rundown the show with bullet points. Now I'm not sure how to make one of those dot bullets so I'm using -- instead. Deal with it. These again are my opinions...
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- Delikado is going to be a Great Contender to the Undisputed Title. Him and TMarv will do some crazy and entertaining things. I looked forward to the two Pre Show matches and while I think Dan will become a big name here, Delikado is showing that right now is his time. The year of Delikado? Save us all...

- I wrote the Mannie/Williams match and wrote it with entrances and announcers. Not sure what I was thinking but for what the match was, I think it wasn't too bad and sold both people involved. Congrats Mannie.

- Congrats to Knoxville and Buckson on their big win. I think it's amazing to see two people randomly put together work so well. Natural Born Killers are a growing team in APW and this was a sign of good things from them as well. Good match.

- In my segment, I wanted to use someone different. I didn't want to use Paige so I went with Storm because it fit the way I was feeling with Kash. I like this "Addicted" approach I have right now and I hope my rps are improving.

- Michael Lively instantly became one of my favorite people on this show. Doing what he did to that HOT GAH-BAGE Rap CON-Artist...Just a beautiful thing. Although by the end of the show, there is more outside stars here than maybe needed for a Wrestling Event.

- AC Smith is a god damn stud! When someone gets clobbered with a cheese grater and so many other great choices, you know it's entertainment. Great match, I believe Dan White wrote it? Good job dude. Congrats Smith.

- Anderson "The Spider" Silva! He was HERE!! FUCK, I didn't get his autograph...Delikado nailed this segment, one of the best things out there in segment form period. This guy could do some great things this year and NOBODY might be able to stop him.

- My match was a letdown to me. Not because I feel I wrote a shit match because I liked a good portion of it. What I was upset about is that Borderland is gone now. I wanted to see him shine but sometimes people just struggle with something and it drives them in the wrong direction. It happens and I don't blame him but it hurt the joy of the match that I had wanted from this.

- Hart/Noble was a good match...TO START. Then after they apparently installed ear piece microphones and starting carrying on a conversation as they were draining themselves and not showing any signs of breathing hard? The ending though? It felt like I had switched channels and was watching Days Of Our Lives. Take it as a knock or not but I'm not the only one thinking it. The end was just...It ruined the match to me.

- The Sindicate is powerful. Their segment tells us this and if anybody is still questioning it then please step forward because they've done nothing but show their brilliance and dominate performances each and every match they have. Plus Sam Strachon is a RIOT on Twitter promoting these guys and has put a new spin on eFed Managers. Great job.

- Shadow and Slade was weird. Great match but Buried Alive Matches have always given me a weird feel to them even on TV. This was a good match, who wrote this? I like the match and that it was well ordered and everything connected. These two guys get overlooked and shouldn't.

- Keaton Saint shows us here that more is more. His conversations are crisp and really gives that feel of two people having a conversation. He's just a class act, humble as hell and probably the best hyped guy to come into APW since Kurt Noble. I should have jumped in on these segments, didn't see the request until late though.

- Whats clear to me in the TJ/Reaver match is that Reaver's mask was almost not there. A few spots it seemed like the writer forgot Knuckles had become Reaver. I guess to write a match, you must read the show. This could be considered one of the better matches of the night but without the mask and the clear change of gimmick in Reaver then it takes away a bit. Still a great match, lots of violence and fitting for both men. Really sold the violence without going stupid with it. Good job and congrats to TJ.

- Fun Fact. Biggs and Jeff are the only Staff Members without a Title right now. No, that's not a shot. Take it for one if you feel though, most look for a reason to be offended so I'm glad to fill that need if you find it. With that said I am a big fan of TMarv and Envi so I swear I am not hating on them being Champions. Both of them own their writing and own opponents too often NOT to be Champions.

- I like Dying Breed and the segment leading into their Tag Title Match. It came off as a group segment and really sold the unity of the group. Good stuff. The match gave me some anticipation going in, it was one I wanted to see more than alot of other matches. Congrats to Bailey and Hopkins, good victory. Hopkins knows he's my homie so big ups for him pulling it out here. Bailey is cool I guess too..haha

- I loved seeing Speede interact with TMarv and Saint. Speede has always been someone to me that with a little time could very well be that level of a name in eWrestling. Great interaction between these men and then a heated conversation between Saint and TMarv. TMarv shitting on the World Title should have caused Saint to jump and pop him in the mouth. Represent your BRAND! Haha. I really liked this segment though, the best from Saint on the whole show.

- The Hall Of Fame was a bit off. Lacked hugely to the respect those men should have. I guess it was Asylum based so we shouldn't be surprised...Moving on...

- Level One and Biggs KILLED it! THIS WAS HOW A BIG HYPED MATCH SHOULD BE! No bullshit ending...This had spots, shots and Canadian Destroyers from the top of a fucking CELL! Even in the ending, they showed respect for their long history and the battle they had. THIS was satisfying to so many levels. Thanks to you both for this match.

- While the Ladder Match for the NA Title was good, well written and sold the points and spots needed to have a good Ladder match. I felt almost drained like I cheered all through the L1 and Biggs match. This felt more like a calm period after that CLASSIC but it was still a good match. Gov'nor, congrats man.

- Jeff versus Raab. More people should have seen this coming, I WISH I had seen this coming. It's easy to hate Raab in character and some do it on Twitter for good reasons. Some bitched and complained (SURPRISE) that Raab was higher on the card than other matches. Well boo fucking who, be here and have the promotion that these two characters PUT INTO THEIR FEUD. This was a good match as always when you can get Jeff to not only rp but RASSLE? "GOSH DARN" it was still a surprise that shouldn't have been. Jeff knows that as Owner, he should promote the talent most the time and has done it better than 90% of the owners I've worked for/with in 12 years of eWrestling. Congrats Raab but Jeff did get you back after match didn't he? Haha great show this match was, entertaining.

- I of course was looking forward most to the World Title match. Fighting, clawing through the ranks, Callahan has earned his spot because he puts in the work. His character is complete now and I'm kind of scared to see his plans now...The rise of Callahan comes now and all should be watching. Saint? Again, one of my favorites in all of APW comes up short here. This held it's own against any of the matches for this show. I was on the edge of my seat when Saint locked in that second "Keaton Clutch" and it was just a good show of match writing. Congrats Callahan, much deserved and finally achieved. I want a Triple Threat now involving Atken and Saint. DO IT!!

- The first thing I want to say about Gates/Marvin is that they used talking during a match properly. Regular sentences would never be used and the capitalization of their words really showed the difference. It wasn't multiple sentences heard by everyone like mics were installed but it was short and yelled. Now the match itself was just well done. When Level One and Biggs came out I was a little crooked eyed. After their match it made little sense to have them back out and looking fresh in this match. Other than that, this match rocked! Close falls, great spots and an ending that had TMarv hugging a poll...Fucking funny! Great end to a tremendous show.

-- Special Thanks to all the Celebrities who showed up. Nas, Puff Daddy, Anderson Silva..Okay so not as many as I thought but still a good use of Celebrities.

[C.J. Gates]

Mar 25, 2013 15:38:39 GMT -4 Jason Cashe said:

- My match was a letdown to me. Not because I feel I wrote a shit match because I liked a good portion of it. What I was upset about is that Borderland is gone now. I wanted to see him shine but sometimes people just struggle with something and it drives them in the wrong direction. It happens and I don't blame him but it hurt the joy of the match that I had wanted from this.

I was looking for Borderland to do big things ever since he made it to the finals of Test for the Best in 2011. He put out some really great stuff then, and then fell off the face of the Earth shortly there after and never really returned. He had that promise but never lived up to it. Sucks that he's gone, but I guess that's how things like this go.

[T-Marv]

Whats clear to me in the TJ/Reaver match is that Reaver's mask was almost not there. A few spots it seemed like the writer forgot Knuckles had become Reaver. I guess to write a match, you must read the show. This could be considered one of the better matches of the night but without the mask and the clear change of gimmick in Reaver then it takes away a bit. Still a great match, lots of violence and fitting for both men. Really sold the violence without going stupid with it. Good job and congrats to TJ.

I do read assylum. I may not hit every single match all the way through. But I did my research on these guys.

I just forgot about the mask (Probably cause I hate masked wrestlers unless it's lucha. And a wrestler who had no mask and now HAS one for whatever reason just seems silly to me)

But don't imply that I got it wrong cause I don't read Asylum. I just forgot....been a little busy around here...

My apologies to TJ and Knucks for leaving it out though.


Also, Kash, J-Reb doesn't have a title either....

[Jason Cashe]

Well Reaver just pointed out to me via Text that I am once again Dark Match Champion because Shane beat him. So if Rebel wants that...I can EASILY just let him have it? Again to be clear I don't in anyway feel there is any biased here in APW. TMarv, Envi, both of them and Biggs, Jeff, and Rebel are all proven good guys. I don't get along with everyone, that's no secret but none of them have done anything to even HINT at being shady. 3 years no hint? Doesn't happen so please don't be offended by that comment TMarv...

As for the Mask for Reaver? Kash busted Knuckles with a Chair like 10 or so times when he was handcuffed. That left him with a butt crack scar down his forehead. HENCE the mask. Kash opened Pandora's Box into the dark for Reaver. There have been Masked American Wrestlers since the earliest days of Pro Wrestling. Lucha just takes it more seriously, as do most countries with Wrestling compared to America.