Rasslemania IX feedback and discussion

[Reaver]

i thought TJ was writing that match?

[Jason Cashe]

I've heard TJ say he wouldn't have tried writing any of the matches on this card. Might have been in chat...

[The Soul Of Philly]

T-Marv snagged it and I trusted him, gave him some insights to the whole thing feud. Honestly, reading it, I didn't get that feeling at all. I mean, yes, it seemed a bit that Reaver wasn't Reaver, but let's be honest, the character is what, a month old? One match in that month everything thing else was just segments. It wasn't like T-Marv had a lot to go off of. Honestly, I don't think "adding" the mask would really add to the match.

ALso, Knuckles, you knew that T-Marv was writing the match, in the match writing topic, you liked my post that said I would send any spots I thought of to t-marv, with the quote that T-Marv was taking the Tap Out Title match.

[Johnny Rebel]

I'll take the fall for the Level-One/Biggs continuity stuff. I knew they'd be putting themselves through hell in that match but I'm not sure either one of them would have walked out of the show that evening!

I could have done a better job painting a picture of them licking their wounds. However, with all the build-up, I felt like it made sense for both of these guys to at least make a short appearance in the match.

[Jason Cashe]

I should have never left a review. Everyone seems to be responding to it like I called out flaws. Small things that don't matter and didn't hurt the show at all. Happens. Still one of the best shows on the internet PERIOD.

[C.J. Gates]

Mar 25, 2013 17:43:27 GMT -4 Jason Cashe said:

I should have never left a review. Everyone seems to be responding to it like I called out flaws. Small things that don't matter and didn't hurt the show at all. Happens. Still one of the best shows on the internet PERIOD.

I don't think anyone is calling you out for writing the review. I think they are just making it known why things happened that way. There's no reason to think that the review/feedback was bad - not many people leave it so things like you pointed out might never be brought to light.

I think what people might have gotten their hairs raised at was when you played it off like the mask wasn't used because the writer doesn't read Asylum. That's all.

[Johnny Rebel]

Mar 25, 2013 17:43:27 GMT -4 Jason Cashe said:

I should have never left a review. Everyone seems to be responding to it like I called out flaws. Small things that don't matter and didn't hurt the show at all. Happens. Still one of the best shows on the internet PERIOD.

The whole "Hey, look, all the staff has championships!" comment is repeatedly out of line. This isn't the first time you've tried to sneak that in somewhere. There are a few staff members who have belts because the two of them that do are two of the hardest working people in this fed. They continuously put out top-notch work. It has *nothing* to do with the fact their names are in orange.

Not trying to kick up dust here but somebody needs to defend the guys who constantly show-up and put together excellent RP's, despite putting out shows, on-time and of the highest quality, every week.

[The Soul Of Philly]

Mar 25, 2013 17:43:27 GMT -4 Jason Cashe said:

I should have never left a review. Everyone seems to be responding to it like I called out flaws. Small things that don't matter and didn't hurt the show at all. Happens. Still one of the best shows on the internet PERIOD.

No, you should have, it's good to leave your opinion. I was just defending T-Marv's excellent match. The way you wrote that review, it just came off wrong to me, like "hey that's a great match, but you left out something that could have added to it." The match was never about Reaver's mask, it was about Reaver's birth and TJ's pride. had it been about Reaver's mask, I'd agree wholeheartedly, but it wasn't.

[Level-Two]

Mar 25, 2013 17:23:17 GMT -4 Johnny Rebel said:

I'll take the fall for the Level-One/Biggs continuity stuff. I knew they'd be putting themselves through hell in that match but I'm not sure either one of them would have walked out of the show that evening!

I could have done a better job painting a picture of them licking their wounds. However, with all the build-up, I felt like it made sense for both of these guys to at least make a short appearance in the match.

I was going to address this in the feedback post I am writing but I do take some blame for this as well. Despite the outcome, I think I put too much damage on L1 even to appear in the main event (which I requested).

Also, had no clue Biggs would make an appearance either to make matters worse.

But hey, I'll be sure to communicate better next time. My apologies as well.

["The Welsh Dragon" Dan White]

It happens. I went from one fed where I fell of the titantron in a match to two matches later opening their version of the Royal Rumble and making the last ten, purely because the rumble had been written before the match where I fell off the titantron.

[President Jeff]

I'm pretty sure Vince McMahon said to someone once

"Its not suppose to make sense" ;D

[Jason Cashe]

He said himself on his podcast he doesn't get to read Asylum all the time. Didn't understand why Reaver was even in a mask to begin with. If it had been someone he paid attention too that had a character upgrade then it have been noticed. As far as the Staff being Champions comment? Fucking shit guys, it's fucking with people. I can't fucking joke and poke at people who I've been around for HOW LONG NOW? Do people NOT continually sign up for this efed? So nobody has complained about it? Did I complain about it or just make little jabs? Envi, have we not talked about this stuff before privately? Ask around, ask Knuckles, ask Knoxville or Borderland or even KJE who I tell EVERYTHING too...If and WHEN I have a real complaint it'll not be slandered on the forums, I wouldn't do that to the 3 years I've spent here. Know I'd have made it clear of an issue though if there was one. I wouldn't BE HERE IF I THOUGHT STAFF WAS BEING BIASED TO THEMSELVES...AS WAS SAID IN MY FEEDBACK, I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANY...

How about someone else do a Review now? Since I'm the only one who has so far...

[Delikado]

Mar 25, 2013 18:22:20 GMT -4 President Jeff said:

I'm pretty sure Vince McMahon said to someone once

"Its not suppose to make sense" ;D

Pfft, that right there is Delikado 101!

[Reaver]

Mar 25, 2013 17:16:19 GMT -4 The Soul Of Philly said:

T-Marv snagged it and I trusted him, gave him some insights to the whole thing feud. Honestly, reading it, I didn't get that feeling at all. I mean, yes, it seemed a bit that Reaver wasn't Reaver, but let's be honest, the character is what, a month old? One match in that month everything thing else was just segments. It wasn't like T-Marv had a lot to go off of. Honestly, I don't think "adding" the mask would really add to the match.

ALso, Knuckles, you knew that T-Marv was writing the match, in the match writing topic, you liked my post that said I would send any spots I thought of to t-marv, with the quote that T-Marv was taking the Tap Out Title match.

ya but with my hefty work load, i have a tendency to forget alot of things.....just comes with the territory of working in a kitchen all day every day.

[Slade "The Main Man" Craven]

Mar 25, 2013 18:28:02 GMT -4 Jason Cashe said:

- Shadow and Slade was weird. Great match but Buried Alive Matches have always given me a weird feel to them even on TV. This was a good match, who wrote this? I like the match and that it was well ordered and everything connected. These two guys get overlooked and shouldn't.

I was the one who wrote that one. (-Ahem- Jeff hah) I understand they are rare and do have that weird vibe but it was something that hadn't been done in an efed in ages from what i remember. Thanks for the feedback on it Im glad it was a decent read


Sorry for not leaving feedback on the show, I'll try. Also Im going to be taking another LOA because of some Apartment/Work Drama right now that is really cutting into every aspect of my life. It sucks but I may be gone for up to two months. I will keep you'll posted. Plus I have to come back to even the score with Shadow.

Great show nonetheless.

I will say this, I share the sentiments on the Hart/Nobel match. 2 out of 3 falls should end big not be left open-ended like that. If this were an arena they may have rioted, and not in a good way. Hence the feeling of the read.

[Legion]

I'll leave feedback shortly, but for now I'd advise that everyone chill. Chill.

[Reaver]

i will leave FB soon as i get jeffs FB first. he's earned it.....

[Jason Cashe]

I really hope someone else puts down feedback here...I hope my post didn't prevent that cause I'd be very disappointed.

[C.J. Gates]

I'm planning feedback, but I have final essays and exams to worry about before I do that.

[Lord Raab]

Who complained and moaned about my character being in a high profile match than the other matches Jason? I didn't seem to read that anywhere. I could care less if any of my matches are in a main event spot or even in a dark match.

All I wanted to do was to build a feud up with someone and RP against them and when the chance came up with Jeff. I had to do it because it made more sense for Stefan to fight Jeff at Rasslemania than anybody else at the time except Yarmouth but he left due to personal issues.

I didn't know what else to do with segments wise apart from my character calling out Jeff and it worked for the better.

I didn't even RP anywhere else because I wanted to put this Jeff/Raab feud first and my heart was in that feud more than actually wanting to defend the tag titles with my British team in WEW that I won before I left for Germany and when I moved home as well.

I had a lot of fun building that feud with Jeff and that should be the most important thing in any fed you are in not worrying about if it was main event quality build up or not.

[Jason Cashe]

It was twitter stuff but came off to me as OOC comments and I responded to them because it offended me because you've been promoting the fuck out of your Mania feud. Jeff too. You guys had some intense segments and rps about each other so for anyone to downplay your hustle is just a fucking joke. SURELY not when the person hasn't been around active for a long time. Doesn't matter who it was, it's over now man..chick...RAABIES!

[C.J. Gates]

Another Rasslemania in the books and this one had a little bit of everything. I'll admit, I was a bit hesitant at first because of all of the stipulations. I mean, it's not ONIH, but we had a Last Man Standing, Iron Man, Dog Collar, Cage, Hell in a Cell, No Rules, Buried Alive, Fans Bring the Weapons...It almost seemed like too much for a Rasslemania, if only because I always think Rasslemania is more about the wrestling then the gimmick matches, but I won't complain after reading the results.

Hopefully people enjoyed the first tag team match. It's the first time I've written a match in...a long ass time now, so hopefully the rust didn't show. The Xtreme title match was well done and as others have said, highly entertaining, so props to White for that one.

I think Match of the Night for me comes down to the Hell in a Cell or the World Heavyweight match. Both were just so damn entertaining and both told a good story. Nothing wrong with some violence to lift a match into amazing.

Loved the Delikado segment. At first I wondered why he didn't go with a Canadian UFC fighter for the segment, but then I realized that it probably wouldn't have worked so well with a GSP instead of Silva. There'd be no Brazilian lemonade stand to talk about! Entertaining as always.

I liked what Keaton managed to do with the segments. I think I mentioned it somewhere (maybe earlier in this thread?) but I enjoyed the varying aspects that he brought in and how he tied a lot of stuff together in the three segments. From the Pillars stuff to a possible continuation of Marvin/Saint, it all worked well so props to Keaton for putting that together.

Congrats to all the winners and to the new champions. There were a lot of great RPs put out this week, and I don't think anyone can be upset with the results. So many close matches in my mind.

Big congrats to Terry. Thought I had you but I guess I was just a few steps behind you. But still, well done on keeping your amazing year going and I look forward to another meeting down the line.

Big thanks to Jeff for putting it together and Marv for helping him out. Thanks to everyone who RPed and who wrote matches and...hell, big ass thanks to everyone that was involved in this PPV. We showed why APW is one of the best and I'm sure we can do it again at Mayhem.

[Evan De Parker]

So basically...

The dark matches were incredibly well-written for dark matches. I think Dan White and Delikado deserve huge nods for their incredible work this week, and I'm glad I got the chance to sit down and read both. I'd love to see these two in a feud-- but I'd rather see Delikado competing for the Undisputed or World Heavyweight Title. Also, Young Mannie should have been on the card. Shame that he wasn't, but he also provided an excellent RP, and though Williams' wasn't traditional, I personally enjoyed the hell out of it, haha. Congrats Mannie.

First off... Loved that the commentators had to yell in the beginning. Lulz.

Wonder how many people noticed the throwback to DX in Natural Born Killaz' segment... Cleverly done, and usually this kind of stuff is just raunchy and offensive, but I'll shrug it off since Leon was home-- but if it's done again, it'll become a bit too much. As for the match itself, it was exactly what I imagined when I saw these two having their rematch (though it was a shame Titan couldn't participate). Props for the bit about Knoxville showing off and making his team vulnerable in the process... Seems pretty true to the character from what I've read. But the match itself was fast-paced, and PPV quality. Kudos. And congrats to Goochville. ;D

I loved the Kash and Reaver segment, and they utilized Hannah Storm perfectly-- though, obviously, this was mostly Kash. From her being skeptical about his attitude and his chances in the match, to the description of the body language... It was well-done, and a good example of how imagery should be produced in RPs. Excited for whatever's to come with these two.

Hah, typical Lively segment-- classic. I really, really, really dislike Lil' Wayne and Nicki Minaj, so this segment was 100% okay with me. 100% okay.

The Xtreme Title match was exactly what the commentators described it as at the end: phenomenal. I loved every single moment of it. I think the best weapons of the night were the ineffective light-saber and the cheese wheel... But damn was that flying midget unexpected. Congrats to Smith. Great effort by Gooch and Lively. These are three more RPs I also finally got to read back-to-back-to-back and they all impressed me.

DELIKADO. Effing fantastic segment, and hilarious. I truly hope Delikado becomes a main-event mainstay because he consistently puts in amazing work and I feel that he's been overlooked lately. The inclusion of Anderson Silva was great, and there was even a backstory! And it sounded legitimate! Who the hell thinks up these things? But the fight-- er... Beatdown afterward is beyond words. The disembodied mannequin arm comes to mind. The revelation that the whole thing is like some whacked-out episode of Scooby Doo gone horribly wrong is also intriguing.

Also, I'm just going to assume Delikado's not dead. Anywho.

Kash vs Borderland was simply brutal. There were several points where I was convinced that the mat was going to end via KO. By the way, I'm a sucker for the Dragon Suplex, so it was pleasant to see Kash bust that out, as well as the Guillotine. Very unusual ending, but I mean that in the best way. It was a flat-out beatdown and Borderland was absolutely brutalized. Sucks that he's leaving, again, but things happen.

Very personal segment from Keaton Saint with TJ. Both characters got over, but it really got me behind Saint going into the WHC Title match. Everything he said was just very human, and it made sense. Callahan's polar opposite.

Pleasantly surprised to see a segment by Robina Hood and I'm glad it happened! This is the kind of exposure Robina needs, and it doesn't hurt that it took place right before the Career vs Career match. Short, sweet, very well done.

Anyway... I'll continue this later. I'm only halfway through the 3 Stages of Hell match and I wanna read the entire show word-for-word. ;D

[Jules]

Rasslemania IX Feedback

Okay I'm doing this in parts. Here is Part 1. I'm only going to be reviewing matches, Ill have something to say about segments at the end.

Dark Matches

I think they did exactly what you want them to do. The match writers got the length spot on, and I really felt they were the types of matches that would have got the crowd blazing hot.

Rasslemania IX Video

Listen I couldn't put this together so I won't pretend I could do better. It was good, not quite as goose-bump inducing, adrenaline-pumping as last year's epic Ali quoting 'Ima show you how great I am' video. I'm not quite sure what 'Hisoty' is either and how we're going to make it, but otherwise it was solid.

Tag Team Championship #1 Contender’s Match

First up, I love the GFX to introduce each match. Great work and kudos to the person responsible. Now, anyone who’s been here long enough knows I’m not a big fan of PPV segments. They should be used sparingly and wisely. I think there was some merit to the Leon Roberts pre-match promo. It was great for generating heat for the heel team and to get the crowd invested in the event from the start. However, the Demonica’s tits bit was unnecessary. If the heel team is going to make this boast, the women either needs to be hideous looking like Vicky Guerrero, or she needs to be a right twat so that the right heat is drawn (rather than get a face pop from the vocal males). Does Demonica fit either of these descriptions? Just a thought.

Now for the match. This was never going to be the most high-profile or high-octane match, but I don’t mean any disrespect to anyone in this match. Anyway, the match writer got this vibe spot on: it was a solid TV match to open the show, NBK may have lost but they come out looking really strong. Gooch and Knoxville is a good combination, so this is no embarrassment.

Xtreme Championship Match

I have to commend the match-writer on delivering a wonderful read. It encapsulated the fun-factor you’d hope to see in this match, and I haven’t seen that element of fun incorporated into a match since Level-One wrote that Ballroom Brawl match last year. It’s also ingratiating when you see many of your own weapon suggestions included, so that was sweet. My only point of dissension would be the ‘tar and feathering’ of Gooch. As principal heel and Arsehole #1 in APW, that spot should have gone to Michael Lively. Seeing the arch-heel embarrassed like that is the sort of spot marks pay to see. Otherwise, spot on. Excellent match that gets the show rolling in a BIG TIME way.

Jason Kash vs Shane Borderland

I’m not going to criticise the write-up; it was good and Kash always puts the emotions in his feuds into the matches. However, with the no-show it was difficult for me to get into it really. Kash, I know what it’s like when you get a no-show on a show like Rasslemania (happened to me last year), it does take some of the gloss off what should be a big win, but you’ve done your end so well done.

I don’t know much about Shane Borderland other than that he seems to turn up every few months, is given a push I personally feel his efforts don’t deserve, then disappoints when it counts. I’ll leave it at that because I’ve got no personal beef with Shane, and I’ve got no intention to start any. I know shit happens in real life that means you can’t come through in e-fedding, that’s cool, this is just a game. But if Shane does come back, and he will always be welcome, I hope he will be given the chance to rebuild his credibility in the appropriate place rather than being thrown into a main show push over others who have been consistently putting in the effort for months.

Kurt Noble vs. Chris Hart

First and foremost, nobody is a bigger fan of the writing of Kurt Noble than me. Swear down, bruvvers! But seriously, I’ve gushed over how highly I regard Kurt/Kyle as a storyteller many a time, so I when I read the match I wasn’t too sure what to think.

My first response was that the match was far too long, and a little bit self-indulgent. I know it’s ‘career vs career’, but I believe good match writing, like good RPing, has an optimum word count in order to be effective. Somewhere around the 5k mark is optimum for a big PPV match imo; anything significantly less is not doing it justice, anything significantly more is presenting a challenge to my patience and what is reasonable for others to read.

On top of that I found the in-match conversation between Noble and Hart really corny and off-putting, the gasoline spot was a bit over the top (even for professional wrestling), and the finish felt a bit tame. I could imagine the crowd rioting after being put through that ordeal and now getting a proper finish.

However....

Fuck all that because Kurt Noble deserves this, even if the write-up was self-indulgent. This guy has done an incredible job elevating APW’s product, both on Overdrive and by representing APW over at Experts and CWC. Kurt/Kyle has been an outstanding contributor on the boards, is the best there is at giving fair, honest and constructive feedback in an appropriate manner. The amount of feedback he has given cannot be thanked enough, especially in a game where everyone wants to take and few want to give back. I’ve always commended him for that and believe he sets an example of how we should conduct ourselves in this game.

So forget about my criticisms Kurt/Kyle, this match was epic and the melodrama you produced here was a fitting finale to the Kurt Noble story. Anyway, I think Kyle may have anticipated all of this and Harvey’s sharp commentary at the end that this wasn’t a story about wrestling, and that winning and losing wasn’t what was at stake probably hit the nail on the head and poked a tongue at all of us who reacted as above. Well done Kyle, adieu, take care and good luck. You’re going to be missed, pal.

P.S. I can’t not leave a comment for Metro either. I hope you’re doing well buddy, stay strong! Thanks for those good times in the APW chat, and it’s a shame we never got to carry out of ‘APW SuperShow’ dream.

To be continued....

[Tommy Knox]

Haha, Goochville. Sounds like Kashville that Kash had to go and use for a move name.

[Jason Cashe]

I don't use it for a Move anymore. I didn't want to tarnish my moves with the name of a Tag Team where the Ville bailed on me as Tag Champs...

[Anthony Bailey]

Noble vs. Hart had to be the most intriguing match to me IMO (though I'm grateful that the loose ends will be tied up on the next Overdrive), because they seem to have gotten what this game is all about....telling a good story. I've been e-fedding for some time, off and on since I was 12-13 and I'm 27 now and when you're younger, all that matters is winning and title reigns. But the older and more mature you become, you realize (or at least you should) that winning and titles aren't everything because at the end of the day, it's just a game. A game that we don't really get anything from except pure enjoyment.

Noble and Hart are what I hope to become in the sense that their e-fedding will be marked by their storytelling and their wins and titles will just be the icing on the cake and I don't mean that in a belittling way. I hope to tell a phenomenal story with my character someday and since he's still new, I can glean from the small portion of the Noble/Hart feud that I am aware of and learn from them. Great job guys!!

[The Soul Of Philly]

Regardless of what Jules says, this feedback took far longer than 5 Minutes MY TURN!

- The two dark matches were very well written for dark matches. All competitors involved could have been on this card and no one could really complain. Its just so many stories and feuds took up all the it's a shame, but I expect to all 5 of these guys on the Mayhem card in some way. ANd I look forward to it.

- I dunno how to feel about this pre-match promo from NBK. I liked it, don't get me wrong, but something about it was off. I get that these two aren't exactly humble faces (at least according to your contract), but you guys come off more heel in this promo. And if that was the goal, good, but you failed to portray that in the crowd's reactions, cheering as if they are faces. Also, I don't care how much you previously pandered to the crowd if you mock a more established face, you will get booed. Yes, NBK has been around for two months, but Gooch has been around longer. There are cases that would cause NBK to be more cheered than Gooch from young adult males, but everyone else should be booing NBK for mocking Gooch. It goes with the idea that on your first Meltdown the crowd doesn't know who you are, so you aren't going to get recognized the way you want them to be. I think that is what didn't come off right. Also the erotic description of Demonica was just flat out weird. I love myself some Audrey Bitoni, but if I wanted to see how round and juicy her ass is, I'd go to youporn or pornhub.

As far as the match goes it was a good match to start off teh show. It got my interest quick and never lost it. It flowed well and the commentary was used in the right spots. Congrats to Knox and Gooch, I like these two as a team and hopefully they'll work together on some more segments leading to their title shot. It a shame that McLovin couldn't get an RP in time as I think this match would have been a tough one to call, but NBK will be tag title contenders in the near future.

- Excellent segment from Kash, I wonder, had Knuckles' laptop not gone all smokey on him, if there would have been more from him, but nonetheless, this was a great segment. I love this edge of sanity type thing from Kash where the word Action is almost a trigger for him. Not only does it hype the kash borderland match, it also hypes event as a whole.

- I loved the Lively segment and am excited that he's apart of Asylum now, I left Meltdown before I truly had a chance to interact with the pompous Lively. I like how you not only showed how big RM is, but you tied it into your match. I laughed at the "BITCH I'M MORE GANGSTER THAN YOU" line, and had it not been for a segment later in the show, I think I would have put this as my favorite segment of the show. Well done Lively.

- Kudos to Dan White for writing this match. This match should have been a fun read and it was that and more. I loved the Celine Dion spot, I hate the fucking song, but it was great. The commentary was funny as well. The match was fun to read again, but also great. You didn't go over board with the spots, which one could have easily done. Congrats to AC, PM me whatever black mail you have on the staff Also want to congratulate Gooch and Lively for their RPs, they were very entertaining to read.

- Do I need to say anything abotu Deli's segment? No? I'll do it anyways. HOLY SHIT! Seriously the most underrated writing in APW. Hopefully, between the meltdown rumble, the RP period, and this segment, people realize the awesomeness that is Delikado. Maybe with taht schmuck Kurt Noble out of the way, DELIKADO CAN SHINE! Seriously though, this segment was great because it took everything Deli had done over the last couple Overdrives and ended it right there and at the end of it, an explanation of why he can no sell the broken leg for Overdrive against Callahan, but knowing him, i dunno if he will no sell it.

- OK the Kash/Borderland match. Great match. Brutal, intense and worthy of a final match of a long blood feud. You got the idea, if you didn't have it before, that this match wasn't going to be pretty from teh start. The commentary was well done, selling the intensity of the match as well as providing a break from the action for some bits of it. Beckett's lines were good as he's the heel and should be rooting for Kash to basically kill Borderland.

That said, Jules mentioned this in his, knowing that Borderland didn't show up for this kinda took me out of it as I knew how this one was going to end. What took me more out of it is finding out that he did have time to RP and chose to spend it RPing for a regular show of another fed. I've never been a big fan of his to begin with so maybe i'm a bit biased but, I'm not gonna miss him. He leaves comes up with a lie to excuse himself from disappearing, and gets a push of sorts and then leaves again. Kudos to Kash for putting together a helluva story leading up to Rasslemania on his own for the most part. I know I would have said fuck it. I'm looking forward to what Kash has in line following this though. Hopefully it's with someone who shows up consistently.

- I want to thank Keaton again for writing that segment, that was all him. All I had for him was an idea and he took it. It did a good job of hyping both the title matches and selling Keaton's new position as champion.

- Short segment from Robina, but it was fresh as it was her and her alone for a short amount of time. While some may overlook it, i think it stood out because it wasn't long and it wasn't complex.

- I said it on the Post RM podcast, but this match was exactly how the match should have ended. Hart and Noble, Noble and Hart, they go hand in hand. You couldn't see one go without the other. The match, while being extremely corny, over the top, was great. We always try to tell a story in a match. Whether it be a story of overcommance, brutality, or otherwise, these two took it another level. They wrote a story within a match within a story. If you want my full length feedback on this match, check out the ppost RM podcast. Congrats to Kyle and James for putting together such a story that it had everyone wanting far more than what was intended.

- A good segment between Sienna and KJE. Was one of the things that i missed from KJE on Asylum and from Meltdown was the interaction between Sienna and KJE. It was nice to see these two talking to each other and I like how KJE went from being upset a bit, making Sienna a bit flustered to using that to have sienna say that she'll look out for her. The follow up with Evan and Sienna again is good. It hypes up the OD title match, reminding the view that it was Evan who screwed Mania from being Meltdown's GM.

- I mentioned it on the podcast, but this segment could have looked extremely foolish had the sindicate split their RM matches. Aside from Felipe saying that they were gonna lose the Overdrive Championship, nothign was bad about this segment. It was nice to see Terry stand up for L1 since he's been getting the shit end of teh stick from Felipe lately for a lot of things.

- This match, as weird and hard it is to write, was a good match. THere's a reason why Buried Alive matches aren't really seen in e-fedding. It's a match that can easily get over the top, but this didn't happen and good job by Slade for that. Ive really liked this feud, i've tried my best to follow it all the way through, but the parts I have were good and I'm happy that it played out teh way you guys were hoping too. It was a good story, now the fun part where these two go from here. I hope this leads somewhere for Shadow, he's really busted his ass since Meltdown and I hope that Slade picks up something that keeps himself busy, when Slade has something to write about and go off on, he's a fun read. Congrats to Shadow for the win, but to both for the story these two put together.

- Mega segment from Keaton involving Reaver, which was nice to see Reaver as part of hyping up the tap out title match. I thought the interacting between the two was good. Reaver took offense to Keaton saying he's just the same guy. Then there was the part with CJ, which we touched on in a Ppodcast, but he's one of the few people Keaton has actually had a positive interaction with in APW. It was nice to see the possible top champs at the end of the night talking. It reminds me of WM21 where the two champs, JBL and Triple H, having a chat. I think we all as a fed should have taken advantage of the PPV as a chance to work a segment with someone from another show.

- My match and I already sucked Terry off for this, but it was a great match. The spots he wrote were great. I told him what me and Knuckles were trying to do and he picked it up from there and wrote a stellar match. I want to thanks Reaver for being an awesome feuding partner. I know we'll work together again but it was awesome and I was happy to play the intial foil for the birth of Reaver.

- Fantastic OD Title match. Both of these guys put out top class RPs each week. Mania was a helluva OD champion, had some great matches and feuds along the way. Congrats to Evan though. He's been busting his ass to build Evan as the megamegastar and this helps. All in all, these two are top class talents and with Callahan being on OD, i think Mania vs Callahan is something we could see very soon and I see Evan having a tight grip on his title.

- The Dying Breed segment was an excellently done segment. You basically reestablished TDB as something to watch, and it builds for this match even more.

- The tag match, I believe I said was my favorite match of the night. So much to play off. AJP vs TDB, M&M vs Sex and teh Kitty, TDB vs M&M, LA vs Jair, CK vs LA, SO MUCH STORY! It was a great read and everyone came out looking good. If this is the end, I'll be sad because it's ending, but it ended so well it makes up for my sadness. Congrats to Jair and Bailey for recapturing the titles and praise goes to CK, KJE, AJP, and LA for their efforts making that one set of great RPs to read.

- Megasegment #2 from Keaton. I'm upset more not as established guys didn't take Keaton up on his offer. Speede looked real good in this segment. The only problem is that this didn't lead anywhere immediately, that said, I hope it does on one of the TV shows. The Terry/Keaton bit stole this segment though. This is really where it all started for Terry, last year, but a year later, both are the top guys on their shows. I liked that Keaton believed that there was a last bit of good or at least non-cockiness in Terry Marvin. It's like neither of these two actually stopped feuding. Then again, when both guys know each other so well, you never really stop. Then Keaton's monologue which did a great job of talking up his match and himself as someone who should be heralded if he wins. Great segments from Keaton

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I know it's gonna be hard to be able ot compete for awhile after taking a Canadian Destroyer off the top of the cell, but that spot was great. The entire match was great, you got the sense that L1 was looking to avenge his 2012. That was a great match and both guys should be ecstatic that the match came out so well. I could go on and on about this match, but for the sake of time reasons, I'll keep it to this. You guys know each other so well and it shows in this match. I imagine you two talked about this match for a long amount of time so you guys know exactly what you wanted out of this match. And if you haven't read the unedited match, set aside some time to do that.

- Congrats to Jules for his win among all taht fucking chaos. Everyone in that match should be proud that match wasn't a surprise to me, i figured it be chaotic good. Everyone came out looking great. I'd love to name one spot that stood out, but really, its the finish, it really personified Meltdown. A fight for success, everyone climbing the ladder for it, willing to hurt themselves to stop everyone else. A helluva match and I can't wait to see Meltdown's fallout from here.

- Nice segment from CJ. A "heres the facts" promo that gets everyone ready for the title match. It took til this for CJ to say he is gonna save APW from Terry, and I like that. I think when people say that right out, you don't have much to add to it. It was the cherry on top of the build. Good segment CJ.

- A match that I was looking forward to more than most. All that needs to be said is Raab earned this win. ALl the work she put into this for so long to build this moment. I hope that it's only up from here and she improves to a point that she's not only challenging for titles, but winning them. From a IC standpoint it was good to see Jeff get a bit of revenge and give the fans what they want before the heels dominate the end of RM.

- Callahan knows how to write a world championship match and it shows in this match. It had a build and as soon as it got to a certain point, it turned from linear to frantic pacing. You got the feeling that both guys were trying to end the match as soon as possible, knowing if they don't win then, they may not. Congrats to Callahan who finally gets the big belt in APW. Now, someone take it off him before I have to worry about him breaking the record that i'm going to set by breaking his record. I'm serious. (Deli, I'm looking at you)

- That's an Iron man match. Congrats to CJ and Terry, both of you wrote the RPs that made this match epic. Credit to Rebel(?) for this match. I wish I had more, but at this point in the feedback, I'm spent. I can see why Evan and Jules stopped half way. The match flowed so well, the "GET OUTTA HERE HARVEY" line before the whiplash through the table was nice. It didn't break the action but it did have teh announcers react to seeing two guys on their table. It's something I think I'll take for future matches I write.

RM IX is one of my favorite events of my e-fedding career. Everyone from top to bottom put together this amazing event and I hope that i'm around for RM X

Now if you will excuse me, I'm gonna go watch spongebob to cure my brains of the hurts

["The Welsh Dragon" Dan White]

I have to commend the match-writer on delivering a wonderful read. It encapsulated the fun-factor you’d hope to see in this match, and I haven’t seen that element of fun incorporated into a match since Level-One wrote that Ballroom Brawl match last year. It’s also ingratiating when you see many of your own weapon suggestions included, so that was sweet. My only point of dissension would be the ‘tar and feathering’ of Gooch. As principal heel and Arsehole #1 in APW, that spot should have gone to Michael Lively. Seeing the arch-heel embarrassed like that is the sort of spot marks pay to see. Otherwise, spot on. Excellent match that gets the show rolling in a BIG TIME way.

Cheers dude, and I picked Gooch because his gimmick suited the tarring and feathering better, despite being face, plus I know he's a mega heel but I didn't want to make Lively look too unfortunate since he suffered the raccoon and potential rabies spot amongst others. Everyone got a bit of suffering to their ego in that match and that was Gooch's main one.

Just figured I'd explain my logic behind the spot.

[Reaver]

i no i been putting this off but here it is in real time...


as ive said b4 on the podcasts, ANY of the matches (even the DM matches) could have easily been main events as well as a shoe-in for MOTN. i really wanted to see Legion come out with it but cmon, its deli and again, mannie has proven to take all of his criticism the right way and use it properly; deserving of a title shot solo.

TJ's video. i think he mentioned he slapped it together for jeff but i love the combo of music to the pictures. glad u even found me wats that song? excellent job.

the commentators yelling in the opening of the show makes perfect sense. with all of the fireworks, and the sound of the insane amount of "fans" in the stands its almost impossible to hear them normally. love the seg with NBK, its something set up for more with knox/gooch later on.

then comes the match. with NBK being up and comers, it would have been kool to see them win. but, the knox experience and gooch's green status, it seemed to work and this match was worth every read. it kept u interested AND it sold the situation of every man. well done.

kash's seg comes rite off as it was supposed to, calm with a touch of insanity. u dont know exactly what is gonna come later but its almost like he's sweet talking her into drinking the kool aid HA! i wish i was able to help out more with this but it came off great with Kash's evil intentions.

i LOVE how Lively put Minaj and lil Wayne out like that. fuck them! this had my laughing my ass off and i couldnt have been more proud to see it. excellent my friend. lively with his street cred....

Gooch has GOT to be tired after that tag match but fights like a champ in 1 of 2 MOTN candidates. this match had every......although.....

i WAS disappointed in the lack of the airstrike that would have been HILARIOUS a firework is shot into the air, then a stampede of midgets in helmets just tsunami the ring. would have been great anyways, the match was a great read. being "tar'd n feather'd" must not have been pleasant im sure lol. then again, i would have commited a hary cary if i ever had to listen to celine dione like that omg. how do they do it? no bryan adams reference? o well lol. outstanding work!

a deli seg? these r ALWAYS entertaining and with anderson silva in the area where GSP would most likely attack if they were inside a cage is ballsey but it comes out very nice. LIKE A BAWSE!! i dont think ive ever read ANYTHING from deli that wasnt entertaining....rite?

i was real sad when shane didnt show up for Kash. its been worked in so well that u wouldnt have noticed the no show but Kash captures this match down to a tee. u get the raw emotion and the feeling from both guys and THATS wat these matches r all about. i would have LOVED to read something shane put out for this but for some reason "he was too busy". o well, still written great. nice job.

the pillars seg with TJ/Saint get rite to the point. both men have something to prove and they let it b known. thats just something these guys r very good at and deserve their success.

robina seemed pissed and looked like she was out for blood LOL. way to strut it girl.....or guy? idk.......

now we have the Hart/Noble match. i must say that honestly im sad and excited at the same time. i wish i was around to watch this from the VERY start yrs ago as i find myself confused thru some of it. i dont no the history to its fullest and as a guy who is just looking in, it seemed off to me. both guys work their tails off to put out a good match and they did although talking in the middle? idk about that. wat i DO like is the violence and the bad blood these guys had that i DO no about them made it worth it. it really sux how it ended, not the match, in general. losing 2 guys that r valuable sucks balls. (i was hoping i didnt call it but i did :/ ) u guys will be missed.

the sindicate does their thing here, as always, but it begs the question of...whats next? ill assume ill find out on asylum.

i must say that im not too fond of buried alive matches because they can not only drag on but have a tendency to be "over done" but somehow this doesnt over do it. its just enuff to let u no how bad these guys want it and then stops. leaving u wanting. gj guys

i wanna say this first and foremost, Saint did a PHENOMINAL JOB capturing Reaver. reading this, i picture him crouched on a high piece of equipment looking down like a bird and it made sense. he sold it man, and wat also gets me is that it also sets up a potential "tag match" spoiler alert maybe? especially since saint as been wanting to do a few things with a certain somebody. it fits well and after all that, it STILL GETS BETTER! with all the talk of trades and stuff, i expected something like this to happen and to see CJ GATES come out of nowhere and communicate with Saint pushed my beliefe that Gates was comin to Asylum to become the newest Pillar. i so expected that. then i was let down by that weirdo Terry Marvin who came over instead lol welcome. Great Job Saint!!

i also wanna say TY TJ!! TJ knew wat i wanted without me ever saying anything to him and hit the bulls eye every time. i will admit that he carried alot of things due to my laptop issues but even then, it was on point. Terry also did a great job writing this match and sold wat we had going to a tee. TJ's pride vs Reaver's Pride. not to mention the use of OLD weapons from the OD match earlier lol. thats wat i call thinking ahead. still no air strike in the dumpster huh? damn......how fitting that the match had to end by ref stoppage since neither man could put down the other. starting to get flashbacks of TJ/Farq lol. does this mean i got 2 more pv's b4 im a champ? LOL jk guys, we all no that i wont ever be a champ....

- Fantastic OD Title match. Both of these guys put out top class RPs each week. Mania was a helluva OD champion, had some great matches and feuds along the way. Congrats to Evan though. He's been busting his ass to build Evan as the megamegastar and this helps. All in all, these two are top class talents and with Callahan being on OD, i think Mania vs Callahan is something we could see very soon and I see Evan having a tight grip on his title.

i think TJ said it best rite here^^


between the segments and the match, DB NEEDED this. its almost as if its their resurrection. this match was written on a KICK ASS lvl and i couldnt stop reading it. if there is 1 gripe, the entrance is too long. i dont wanna read all that, i wanna read the damn match LOL. it sells the concept of 3 teams all willing to sacrifice to be the tag champs, going back n forth the whole way and either team deserved it. great job guys.

the interaction between Saint, Marvin and Speede is priceless. it could go in ANY direction from here and im anxious to see where it will lead. u can almost feel the weight of pressure thats on Saints shoulders, wat he needs to do in order to accomplish his goals.

the HOF almost gets overshadowed here by the amount of excitement going on with the PPV. grats to all of the inductees.

OMFG! how do u follow a CD off the cage like that? is that even possible? this was the OTHER MOTN for me with 2 of the top guys in APW putting it down YET AGAIN! how was this not a ME? when u talk during a match, THIS is how its done and not by mic. its barely a line and it needs to be heard over the screaming fans who r cheering the match. when biggs yells out, NOT TODAY! did anybody else think of the ASDF video's with the potato? no? just me? damn it...go to youtube.......killer job guys. if there was ever 1 match to overshadow Wrestlemania, it would be this 1

how do u follow this match? how about a ladder match for the NA title? then fill it with starving people who want it more than life itself. theres so much going on, its like a clusterfuck of AWESOMENESS!! this match had everything and it didnt dissappoint. grats to Jules as GOV' and hopefully we can have more.

solid seg from CJ. who else could pull off a hat like this guy huh? way to work it brotha

i must say that this match SOLD RM. who would ave thought that Raab would be able to contend with jeff let alone win? i am very proud of how well Raab has taken with the FB thread and used it to her advantage. if there was ever a person to learn from, its jeff. now its time for a title shot, after the hosp stay thanx to jeff lol.

Callahan really no's how to write man. it was sold picture perfectly on how he and Saint should have been, it was like watching it for real on ppv. it sux that Saint lost but im proud that Callahan won. both guys deserve it so much

now the ME. u dont need me to tell u how good these guys r but somehow its told all over again like an old man who tells the same story but somehow the story never gets old and is always fresh. these 2 guys hate each other and it has propelled them even high and helped them to be better writers even than b4. every words of this match was worth reading, every words of this PPV. how could this not be PPV of the yr?

grats to all the winners, hopefully this yr will bring more surprises.