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Post by "The Welsh Dragon" Dan White on Mar 26, 2013 20:47:01 GMT -4
eo's?
they're awesome! speaks so much truth. just watched his tribute to the macho man and it was heart felt. I've seen the DVD the WWE made about him and the comments make him seem so vile when actually he's such a genuinely decent bloke. The truth hurts sometimes, but he says it like it really is.
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Post by "The Welsh Dragon" Dan White on Mar 26, 2013 20:55:04 GMT -4
The biggest truthisms you ever did see. Man, I used to always think Warrior was a dick but watching the WWE propaganda against him and his videos, he's actually so ace I wish I could buy him a pint and strictly that's it.
Some uncomfortable Truthisms in this video.
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Post by Jason Cashe on Mar 26, 2013 22:16:54 GMT -4
Macho Man works it well too. The issue with Warrior is yeah I was a fan as a kid. However if you hear other people who were around him, all the lies, all the bullshit, the one thing that remains the said about Warrior is that he thought the world should have bowed at him. He felt how Sid talked "RULER OF THE WORLD" type attitude. However Hogan has been scum like a Mafia Player for a long time. He keeps saying TNA hurts because it's not National Level yet? No dumbshit it's because HE has given politics to TNA and ruined the vibe guys had. If Macho said you were shit then I'm more inclined to believe his word. Plus I mean...
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Post by A.C. Smith on Mar 26, 2013 22:38:58 GMT -4
I always thought UW got a shit deal. His two matches with Savage were awesome; both were easily over four stars, and some would argue five apiece. He also had the match with Hogan, of course, and he and Rick Rude had a series of matches that tore houses down.
The DVD ripjob was just awful. In particular, they attest to the ratings for his WCW debut being terrible, and nothing could be further from the truth. That quarter-hour, Nitro did a 6.4 rating, while Raw, which had begun to turn the tide in the Monday Night Wars, only did a 3.2. Was the angle hard to watch? Absolutely, but that's the company's fault for not providing direction, not Warrior's fault for being the Warrior.
In fact, they actually wanted to induct Warrior into the Hall of Fame, but he turned them down BECAUSE of the DVD. By UW's logic, either the HoF or the DVD was wrong, and that's tough to argue with.
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Post by Jason Cashe on Mar 26, 2013 23:11:05 GMT -4
Warrior tried to be too quick sometimes and it could have resulted in injuries. When he gorilla pressed Bobby Heenan I feared for the man's life. Haha. In WCW, the One Warrior Nation was HOT GAH-BAGE! Giving him a mic period was a bad idea and Youtube Warriors WCW debut to show that. Watch any of his promos or segments and see that. He's on the list with Sid as being among the worst World Champions on the mic. Still who didn't like Warrior at one time or another?
What I'd have wished? Warrior got replaced early on by Sting. If Vince had Sting in those days...My GOD! He'd have changed the future of WWE. Aren't they cousins or some shit? I dunno, rambling now.
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Post by Pepsi on Mar 27, 2013 11:02:05 GMT -4
Wow Kash. I had never heard the Be A Man song before. Thank you for making me hear something that will scar me for life. No disrespect to Macho Man (r.i.p.) but that was embarrassing. My ears may never recover.
As for Warrior, I know a lot of people have slandered him over the years and much of what has been said is likely exaggeration, but I read Bret Hart's biography and the picture he painted was a pretty bad one. I know Bret is a pretty bitter guy, but only against guys who deserved some level of bitterness like McMahon, Hogan, HBK, HHH and those types. Even with the bitterness in his books he always gave credit where credit was due even to those guys. He did not have one good thing to say about Warrior.
He told a story about how when Warrior won the belt he would never hang out with the guys in the locker room. He had his own private room and never mingled. One time there was a dying kid there to meet him, and he chose that time to mingle in the dressing room and made the kid wait. He waited till it was time for his match and spent all of a few seconds with the kid.
When the consensus among 99% of the people who work with a guy is that he's a major dick, it's probably true.
As for Hogan, he's just as bad as Warrior, he just fakes it better.
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Post by Jason Cashe on Mar 27, 2013 15:14:43 GMT -4
I had the great displeasure of being one of the few people who HAD the Macho Man Rap Album. A friend who dislikes Rap thought it'd be a funny Birthday Present. So I laugh hearing your displeasure. Haha. Pepsi put it best though about Warrior and Hogan. Scum which ever way you look at either man.
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Post by Nathaniel Havok on Apr 13, 2013 3:36:27 GMT -4
What can you do when one of your top talents basically says "Hey, either give me $250,000, or I'm not wrestling out there tonight."? He was full of himself, and a con artist. Nowadays, he's full of himself, a con artist, and bullshits everyone he talks to, blaming others for his idiocies.
Guys on the Indy Circuit do that ALL the time. "Pay me up front, or I won't even show up in 3 months".
A game in professional wrestling has been PERFECTED... Guys like Zach Gowen, M-Dogg 20, former WWE and TNA "Superstars" (Damaja, anybody?), etc... About 2 or 3 months before the event, after they've already agreed and been advertised, they DEMAND money up front, and get it, because they're already being advertised. Indy promoters can't afford to refund ticket sales, so they're forced to adhere to their requests. I have absolutely ZERO respect for anyone that does this. Basically, in translation, that says 1 of 2 things. Either 1... "I'm broke, and you're fucked.", or 2... "I'm using the wrestling business to make money, not because I have a passion for it anymore.". NO respect for these people, and especially for "Warrior".
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