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Post by stj on Sept 28, 2008 18:53:14 GMT -4
What the hell is it with Ferrari that they have to take a perfectly good system, man with a lollypop, and change it into something where any one of three men can make an error? I mean yeah, I can see how it might shave off tenths of a second to have people hit a button when their job is done, the lollypop man has to react to the situation and then get the lollypop out of the way normally so the green light streamlines the stop, but Massa has had two incidents in four races, neither of them his fault, and this one could have seriously injured the refueller.
Not to mention compromise his World Championship push but I'm behind Hamilton anyway, I'm more worried about the guy he was released in front of (again) and the pit guy that got dragged off his feet.
For the love of Kaos, BRING BACK THE BLOODY LOLLYPOP!
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Post by Dr. Matt on Sept 28, 2008 18:55:39 GMT -4
What in the name of holy fuck are you talking about?
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Post by "The Hottest Shit Going" on Sept 28, 2008 19:14:08 GMT -4
Spirit really has lost her fucking mind...and her handler too!!! Fucking koo-koo...
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Post by Matt Metal on Sept 28, 2008 20:20:55 GMT -4
funny shit if u ask me btw
i miss the days of F1 cars being stopped by a lollypop...
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Post by stj on Sept 28, 2008 20:21:22 GMT -4
It's in the title (der), Formula 1.
Most pitstop type endevours usually involve a lollypop man to tell the driver they're good to go. Ferrari have replaced this tried and tested system with giving the guys in charge of the three main jobs on the car a button to press when they're done. Three button presses means the driver gets a green light in the cockpit.
This time around, Massa got the green light, problem was the fuel hose was still attached to the car (and the guy that pressed his button too early was still attached to that), this is coming a few races after Massa got into trouble when he pulled out right in front of another driver exiting the pitlane.
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Post by "The Hottest Shit Going" on Sept 28, 2008 21:36:21 GMT -4
WOW....racing...I don't get it...
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Post by Twister on Sept 28, 2008 22:19:35 GMT -4
Im with ya lively... what the hells a lollypop got to do with racing? "Der"
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Post by iggy on Sept 29, 2008 0:02:11 GMT -4
It's in the title (der), Formula 1. Most pitstop type endevours usually involve a lollypop man to tell the driver they're good to go. Ferrari have replaced this tried and tested system with giving the guys in charge of the three main jobs on the car a button to press when they're done. Three button presses means the driver gets a green light in the cockpit. This time around, Massa got the green light, problem was the fuel hose was still attached to the car (and the guy that pressed his button too early was still attached to that), this is coming a few races after Massa got into trouble when he pulled out right in front of another driver exiting the pitlane. Yeah been an issue in the F1 pits for awhile Patrick ran over someone because of that reasoning. Honestly I blame the pit crews. NASCAR does not have this many issues. What is NASCAR doing better. F1 needs to find out hard and why. F! racing is so much better than NASCAR... yet hardly anyone cares unless it is Indy.
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Post by stj on Sept 29, 2008 11:29:02 GMT -4
Half of the problem is that people see it as becoming almost as scripted as wrestling. A few races ago, Massa was released in front of a driver exiting the pitlane, he received a 10k fine which, given his wages, is insubstantial. Hamilton was given a twenty five second penalty, after a race dropping him from first to third because he had taken a place cutting a chicane, given it back and had been adjudged to have attacked too early despite the fact that his team had asked the race controller, twice, if they were legally ok and had been given the all clear. That's one example but it has seemed to be one rule for Ferrari (namely Schumacher when he was there, as great a driver as he honestly was), one rule for everyone else, especially their title challengers.
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Post by iggy on Sept 29, 2008 11:40:57 GMT -4
Its his name is why. Double standards for the stars and everyone else.
Yeah I think F1 and NASCAR are scripted and fixed. The more I am watching them the more I am thinking that.
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Post by fyreangel on Oct 17, 2008 16:29:08 GMT -4
wait a minute! NASCAR SCRIPTED?! SHAME ON YO IGGY..lol see I like F-1 the only problem is earney elkstone (FOR GOD SAKES WHEN IS THIS GUY GOING TO EITHER RETIRE OR DIE!?) see if farrari was smart (which I higly doubt) they would have told the FIA that the lollypop man was important also too it would have been nice if the FIA didnt tell Tony George to go FUCK himself when he told them that they needed a sicane for the US Grand prix in INDY.
BUT NO, the FIA said "FUCK YOU" not just to michilin but the race track. ( REAL BRILLINAT FIA) so michilin and their drivers basically told the FIA " KISS OUR ASS!!!" when all their drivers parked after the warmup laps in INDY. This is why the US no longer has a F1 race because elkstone is being a retard.
and iggy if NASCAR was scripted then Dale earnhardt Jr would win every race that the earnhardts made famous for one and two Jeff " I whine more then my newborn daughter ella" Gordon would already have seven championships.
LOL
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Post by fyreangel on Oct 17, 2008 16:31:21 GMT -4
and if you think about it nascar has a simular deal but they are called pit signs but still yeah not a smart thing to do FIA
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