Overdrive 4/18 Feedback and Discussion

[C.J. Gates]

Apr 22, 2013 23:58:11 GMT -4 T-Marv said:

Apr 22, 2013 23:57:26 GMT -4 Shadow said:

As said above, I'm a harsh critic. Comes from teaching.

This isn't being harsh. It's being purposefully disruptive. There's no room in APW for that.

I wouldn't say it's purposefully disruptive, but it is also something other than harsh criticism. Probably lies in the middle where it was brought up to get discussion, but done so in a way that got the wrong kind of discussion.

I do hope that everyone doesn't just overlook some of the points he did point out in his write up. It would suck if everyone focused on the dickishness of the post and not the things that may or may not be something worth looking into.

[T-Marv]

NO... I'm still focused on your unapologetic ass!

I'm not the only one who sees it as such.... Clearly there are many who do. That means it's likely true...

but you still like to live in denial and the diluted belief that somewhere you were trying to help.

You weren't bottom line.

[T-Marv]

I do hope that everyone doesn't just overlook some of the points he did point out in his write up. It would suck if everyone focused on the dickishness of the post and not the things that may or may not be something worth looking into.

I'm not overlooking it I promise.

But I'm not letting go of it either. There's a OOC post about RESPECT and Shadow is showing none. And I'm not gonna stand for it.

[C.J. Gates]

Maybe you're right. Maybe Shadow isn't showing respect with the way he wrote that post.

I'd wager to say that you're not showing him respect by the way you're responding to him. But that's probably just me. I just see that this thread could have tried to get back on topic awhile back, instead of you and him going back and forth on it.

Maybe I'm missing a joke somewhere, but on the heels of a post in the OOC board about respect, this is not what I expected to see in a feedback thread.

Especially when we can barely get people to leave feedback, instead of the good ole "I'll get to this soon" empty promise.

My point? Cool it. Take a breath. Realize that nothing will be gained by turning the heat up in this thread.

[T-Marv]

Apr 23, 2013 0:16:14 GMT -4 C.J. Gates said:

Maybe you're right. Maybe Shadow isn't showing respect with the way he wrote that post.

I'd wager to say that you're not showing him respect by the way you're responding to him. But that's probably just me. I just see that this thread could have tried to get back on topic awhile back, instead of you and him going back and forth on it.

Maybe I'm missing a joke somewhere, but on the heels of a post in the OOC board about respect, this is not what I expected to see in a feedback thread.

Especially when we can barely get people to leave feedback, instead of the good ole "I'll get to this soon" empty promise.

My point? Cool it. Take a breath. Realize that nothing will be gained by turning the heat up in this thread.

You're right of course.

My apologies.

[Michael Jennings]

Apr 23, 2013 0:16:14 GMT -4 C.J. Gates said:

My point? Cool it. Take a breath. Realize that nothing will be gained by turning the heat up in this thread.

Except maybe a Marvin vs. Shadow in character feud on Overdrive.

[Lord Raab]

Or Alexander/Shadow feud that could potentially happen like Stefan/Reginald feud that's going on Asylum at the moment.

[T-Marv]

Anyways...

Two things out of Shadow's rant I got that were actually helpful were this...

GM Feedback, The GM's need to do a better job of feedback when asked for it. Personally I'm not going to feedback the feedback thread. If you want feedback from me specifically, PM me and let me know. I'll do what I can. But be warned... I'm not going to turn around a 24 hour response to you, especially on a week when I'm rping for Asylum and writing matches/segs for that too... But I will get back to you.

Match writing: I do think there needs to be a little more effort put in to knowing the characters you're writing. I appreciate you writing matches, we all do. But people are going to get upset if their chars come out wrong in matches. It doesn't have to be SUPER...just basic things. If you don't think you're writing the char right... PM the handler. HANDLERS... if you're worried about your char being written wrong... PM THE WRITER! It's a two way street.

Those are the two I think are very helpful.

Continue about your business.

[Jason Cashe]

Nothing is bothering me in real life I just don't think telling people "Good job" every week is beneficial. It's like giving everyone a participation trophy. Yes you put in a lot of hard work to put the show together and we thank you, that is never missed but after reviewing feedback for awhile I have not seen any offer much. They just discuss what they liked not where we can improve.

For the record I've been doing Likes and Dislikes on my reviews for shows. Now I don't or haven't done an Overdrive in forever but it's because of problems I've had with people on the show and I just pushed it away for a while. I am slowly getting back on course with Overdrive and when I get to doing it again, bet I'll put what I dislike and bet it won't come off feeling like a slap to the face of those I'm speaking of. Speaking your mind is fine but do it to where it's not so distasteful is what people are trying to say. It's a choice of words and I know this more recently than most.

If Jeff installs an Anti-Cyber Bully Campaign on APW I'ma be PISSED in a laughing kind of way...

[Level-Two]

Well, right off the bat... there was something I wanted to mention the first week and I am not 100% sure it's even relevant...

But on the subject of match judging; if Terry Marvin is doing it alone like he did during the first week, I think that's unfair to both him and to everyone else; results are naturally going to be less accurate. Not because Terry is a bad judge but the more eyes on it; the better. I rather have three votes for or against me; then one.

That's just my opinion concerning that; maybe to fix that it means stepping up myself and lending a hand in that department or maybe it means getting a couple of new staff members in here; even if it hasn't worked out for the best sometimes in the past.

[T-Marv]

The first week was an anomaly. Every week since I've gotten the input of at least 2 other members of the staff. My judging has been pretty accurate compared to theirs and I've gotten better about reading the rp as SOON as it goes up and making little notes about what's good and bad about it.

But I rarely judge a match alone.

As for getting more staff... I don't think that's necessary. We have 3 gms and a floating Staff member, plus Jeff. There was one week when everyone was busy but that was a freak show. So far it's been working....so we'll see what the future brings.

However, Thank's L1 for the advice. I appreciate it.

[Lord Raab]

I got to say that you do such an awesome job as a GM since you started on Meltdown Terry especially how you actually produce just such top quality RP's that I can't even do and now you are a GM of Overdrive doing a fantistic job on getting Overdrive to be a top show. Damn bro you have a ton of respect from me in my book. There is just no way that I could GM a show along with doing really top star quality RP's. Just incredible and the same goes out to Evan Envi and Biggs as well.

[A.C. Smith]

I've been quiet in this thread, but I'll post my two cents, and it may be very similar to what others are saying.

Shadow, the problem isn't that you posted negative feedback. The problem is that there's a time and a place to do it, with respect, and what you've posted not just here, but for last week's show as well, goes against all of that. Staff members, match writers, and others associated with getting shows up on time (something 99.9% of other feds on the Internet don't do, but something APW has done with remarkable consistency over the past year, at least) work their asses off doing what they do. They don't get paid to do it, they don't get some tangible reward out of it, but people like T-Marv, Johnny Rebel, and others do what they do so that everyone here can get the most out of the APW experience.

I don't know if what you posted was intended to come off as a middle finger to everyone. But it did, regardless. It was beyond disrespectful to the staff, and it was also disrespectful to several handlers on the Overdrive brand. Look at it this way: Will anyone you've butted heads with the past two weeks (Evan, Mark Mania, Johnny Rebel, etc.) ever want to work with you again as a result of all this? I wouldn't blame them for wanting to steer clear of you entirely for fear of you being difficult to work with, and if that happens, it's not their fault, it's yours.

Like I said, there's nothing wrong with negative feedback if it's done right. I look back at my feedback to the Noble/Hart match at Survive and Conquer; I didn't like the match, but I said why with a respect for all involved and reached out privately to make sure those who may have been affected by it didn't take anything personally. What you said earlier in the thread, though, will be EXTREMELY tough for people NOT to take personally, especially since this is the second week in a row you've done it.

That's my piece; if anyone thinks it's a distraction from the thread, I apologize.

["The Real Deal" Ellis Graham]

I actually have a suggestion for Overdrive as far as booking: I'd kinda like to see what the WWE would call "squash" matches.

Now, I don't mean them like that, of course, but that's the beauty of e-Feds: a veritable nobody like me can beat Terry Marvin if I write a better RP than him (which for the record, is completely impossible, but stay with me a second).

So anyways, book some matches like, say Level One vs Amy Zing. If Zing is like me, A: she'll definitely deliver a top-notch effort to try and get a signature win, B: she'll read L1's RPs, but maybe a little more closely while hunting for talking points. In the process, some of the newer faces can get an in-depth look at the main eventers and maybe see what little details help them be at the top of the heap.

At the end of the day, L1 likely wins, giving him a rub for the PPV while Zing gets solid rub from hanging with the big dogs. Anyone who remembers Kid Dynamo from 2012 remembers his loss to L1 more than his win over Chaz Dillinger.

Just a thought. It seems like matches like that where midcarders fight main eventers could happen more. But that's just me.

[Johnny Rebel]

Apr 23, 2013 9:59:58 GMT -4 "The Real Deal" Ellis Graham said:

I actually have a suggestion for Overdrive as far as booking: I'd kinda like to see what the WWE would call "squash" matches.

Now, I don't mean them like that, of course, but that's the beauty of e-Feds: a veritable nobody like me can beat Terry Marvin if I write a better RP than him (which for the record, is completely impossible, but stay with me a second).

So anyways, book some matches like, say Level One vs Amy Zing. If Zing is like me, A: she'll definitely deliver a top-notch effort to try and get a signature win, B: she'll read L1's RPs, but maybe a little more closely while hunting for talking points. In the process, some of the newer faces can get an in-depth look at the main eventers and maybe see what little details help them be at the top of the heap.

At the end of the day, L1 likely wins, giving him a rub for the PPV while Zing gets solid rub from hanging with the big dogs. Anyone who remembers Kid Dynamo from 2012 remembers his loss to L1 more than his win over Chaz Dillinger.

Just a thought. It seems like matches like that where midcarders fight main eventers could happen more. But that's just me.

This is a good idea - save the fact that this is still competition based. While WWE is scripted and for entertainment value, e-fedding in general is A vs. B with an undetermined outcome.

There used to be a pretty big gap here. Folks would write quality, compelling 10k word RP's. That's nearly impossible to book because it's likely their opponents would manage maybe 2-3k words of simply average writing because they were trying to compete with the novels others were putting out. This was primarily the motive for the word limits being put in place. The majority of the roster couldn't keep up with those who were producing great RP's that were lengthy. It's always been quality over quantity here... unfortunately for those who couldn't keep up, the quality was brilliant.

Anybody can win on any given occasion. We don't storyline anything, unless both people agree to it before the match begins. There is always a winner... and if both people make an effort, we try to portray both as such. Now, when someone disappears without notice - see Shane Borderland - he gets the Mr. Dangerous treatment. Nobody deserves that if they put forth the effort.

Good idea in theory - but really hard to pull off, IMO.

[Level-Two]

Haha, I am not even sure what Dynamo's suggestion is. Main eventer matches against ''lower carded'' people happen literally on a weekly basis.

I always wanted to see results based more on RP's - so more one sided matches could occur but I understand it gets harder to write and more people will get sore about it so it could probably never been done but almost every match the winner just barely picks up the win, lol. Maybe that could be implemented one day... but not today.

The less people have to complain about the better!

With that said, I think Terry Marvin has been doing a terrific job as GM. I can't say there's been a home run show yet but that's really up to us to make it happen; not Terry. The brand has gone through some changes and it's going to take sometime to get back to normal.

[Jules]

I've always felt a fed should have a pool of enhancement talent that can be added to by anyone on the roster, then every now and then they can be resorted to. Admittedly, this is mostly going to happen in dark matches on Meltdown, but in there may be 1-2 weeks in a year when everyone needs a bit of low key involvement where rather than RPing they're char is booked in a 'squash match' against an enhancement talent and that person just writes the match instead of RPing.

It's an idea an old fed of mine ran with, and it does work sometimes, but should be rare. Not sure how it might work in APW though with so many regular shows.

For the record, I think results reflecting the 'difference in quality' would be a bad idea. Not because it would make people sore, but because it just doesn't serve any purpose. The only thing you gain is the winner getting his or her ego stroked, and in a game where collaboration is the true virtue, that purpose is defeated.

Even in a losing cause the loser should be sold in some way, they should have something they can take from the match (otherwise why bother with match write-ups). Of course, if there is a no-show from a known flake I've got no problem with a squash, or if it has been agreed by concerned parties before hand that a squash can take place, that's cool. But squashing people who have made the effort to RP is bad form in my eyes.

Not everyone is doing this to be the best, they just want to have some fun, and if they're putting in the effort the fed expects (in the case of APW it's 500 words min.) then their character's shouldn't be buried just so the other guy can jerk himself off.

[KJE]

I dig the idea for lower card members/ mid card to go against ME'ers. For someone like myself... going against people like Parker, and Logan has only helped me. It don't matter how many times I lose to them, I push myself harder every time im against someone who is that much better.

[C.J. Gates]

The idea has its ups and downs.

On the plus side, it allows the so called "lower card" to compete against the top, which could result in them working harder to make their RPs better. It could also make for some compelling stories that could carry on through the year, if that "lower card" makes it up to main event status. I know that in my first year I had a feud with Sally that was something like this. I wasn't at the top, but she and I had a program that resulted in me working harder and I got to where I am.

But it has to be done right. If you put that same person against other main eventers regularly (or as regular) they might get discouraged if they are constantly putting in much more effort in writing good RPs and they can't pick up a win. Yes, they'd be going against a Level One or a Callahan, but they might not see it that way. They might see it more like "no matter what I do, I just can't cut it at the top, why should I stick around if I'm not going anywhere". I am not saying everyone will, but some might. You never know.

Like L1 said, though, with the roster Overdrive has, we're seeing that more because it's just the way the shows have to be booked. But it's also why I put lower card into quotations, because I don't see much of a drop between the roster - not as much as their was when I first started.

It's an interesting idea, but it would have to be handled right so that people didn't get discouraged.

[Level-Two]

Jules, I was referring to ''phone it in'' role plays. I mean, kudos for showing - but the match wasn't close at all so I feel the results could reflect that.

Though, I understand your point.

EDIT - I guess Dynamo would be a good example. When I had a match with him - he showed up and role played hard and after his match Level-One shook his hand. Dynamo to this day thinks it was huge for his character, it probably was but I am not that full of myself...

That was a special moment.

I don't think it would've been notable if he had posted a three paragraphed RP against me or phoned it in. I don't think anyone is actually being put over if every match is a razor thin one; it actually becomes stale and predictable and loses it's effect.

Admittedly, it's why I sometimes skim the matchest and pay more attention to segments.

["The Real Deal" Ellis Graham]

If L1 says they've been happening often already, then ignore my suggestion. I'm still trying to get in the swing of Asylum & Overdrive since I haven't been around.

But CJ, you do make a valid point. The few of us who still watch WWE certainly don't want anyone getting the Antonio Cesaro treatment (losing repeatedly on Raw to top-level guys; has 0 cred despite being a phenomenal wrestler & US champ) so it would have to be rotational.

Also, Jules, you totally telepathed an idea I had to write a segment having Ellis "defend" his fake title against local talent, but done in the spirit of a segment. I could see that working. (Likewise, maybe a new guy face writing a Ryback-match-like segment to get himself over).

[Jason Cashe]

I think at times Angles get involved with Matches. Not trying to take anything from him but when I was Tag Champions with Shane Borderland and he bailed on me while we were Champs, I was pissed. I rped against Red Shield Mafia (Mannie) and because I had no partner, it was better to just give a full team the belts. So I took that loss because it better fit the situation. The storyline of it made more sense.

Or when Jeff had went and signed a Tag Team (Can't remember their names) I thought if Jeff signed them, they'll be active. So I went to Meltdown and partnered with Mr. Dangerous and took a loss to promote the new signing. Neither of them rped ONCE in APW. But the thought of it was good intentions because at times even Veterans putting over newly signed talent helps the new talent feel involved and get motivated to be here.

It's like I told Knoxville when he came back this last time. He wanted and still wants to interact with Reaver and Kash. I wanted him to get involved elsewhere to get a motivation for being here because of his own desire to rp, not a desire to work with his friends. Hence his involvement with Niobe and Gooch. He's done his own thing and he's enjoying himself now.

So if Angle is used some in matches. Say TMarv is wrestling TJ, the match could have been close but is the Undisputed Champion REALLY gonna lose his debut on a new show? Not likely. Nothing against TJ, the match came off pushing him as much as TMarv, if not more because he took it to the BIG Champion. So Angle works but Angle NEEDS to be discussed and passed on everyone involved in an Angle or Work for a given match. KJE got jumped, turned on and laid out to end Asylum and wasn't told about any of it. Now to me that makes for more exciting to be surprised but for some they'd rather KNOW before hand so they can plan accordingly. I mean it varies as will the opinions on the matter. I think this topic if anything has opened up a place for these opinions so that APW can grow from it. So in a sense we could THANK Shadow for causing an issue because now it has people looking for better solutions to different things. Blah maybe I should just shut up...

[Jace]

I know I'm new here and my opinions or ideas may not weigh as heavy as others. First of all I would like to say to those who spend their time writing matches for the shows it's a very dedicated thing to do, Since everyone has things going on in real life sometimes it's hard to stay that dedicated to help make the show run. Thanks to those who do it. Shadow had a couple of points but I also agree it's not what you say but how you say it. Keep that in mind next time you give feed back bro.

I enjoy the results and the dynamics people go threw. Now with that said here are a few of my opinions. Things only go smooth for so long, when they start hitting rough patches maybe it's time for a change. There is a ton of talent ranging from rp's that need some work.(mine being one) There are some that need zero work. It may be in a better interest to change things up a bit by switching around rosters.

APW is like no other fed. People here want to see other people succeed with their characters and offer help. To many times have I been in a fed that the top notch rpers wanted to do nothing but crush people not as talented as them and then just talk shit on the ooc boards. If we switched up Rosters to each show it is almost a ranking system based on how good you can rp. Say like low carders or people who need improvement all on one show. Then you take people who have enough skill to be mid carders put them on one show. Then Finally takes those who are true main eventers ad stick them on a show. That way people who need help aren't just being squashed and matches can not only be based on rp's but improvement as well say a min of 500 words to a max of 1500 for low carders to practice. And not have to make long rp's full of gibberish. the limit because you can right 3000 words if it's not written well you shouldn't beat someone who wrote 1000 spectacular. Then Mid carders get like 1500 min to 3000 max. Then Main eventers 2k min to no max.

At this level no matter of how many words you put it will be a good rp and also give the main eventers a little more room to write fantastic rp's. each show would have their own champions like they do. When one is ready the staff can promote them to a higher show, or if they think they may want to try out they can put in a request to do so. The reason I suggest this is really to help those who need improvement and to give those who are great, better matches and competition to. If everyone is set on a show by skill I believe it will help out a lot to improve characters and the over rp's and results. Thanks for listening to my thoughts again I don't expect anything just something I've been thinking about.

[President Jeff]

Apr 23, 2013 15:58:41 GMT -4 Jason Cashe said:

I think at times Angles get involved with Matches. Not trying to take anything from him but when I was Tag Champions with Shane Borderland and he bailed on me while we were Champs, I was pissed. I rped against Red Shield Mafia (Mannie) and because I had no partner, it was better to just give a full team the belts. So I took that loss because it better fit the situation. The storyline of it made more sense.

People voted for Mannie to win, nothing was storylined for that. I was hoping for you and dangerous to win cause I think it be awesome if someone could carry Mr. Dangerous to a title win

[Reaver]

Apr 23, 2013 16:29:44 GMT -4 President Jeff said:

Apr 23, 2013 15:58:41 GMT -4 Jason Cashe said:

I think at times Angles get involved with Matches. Not trying to take anything from him but when I was Tag Champions with Shane Borderland and he bailed on me while we were Champs, I was pissed. I rped against Red Shield Mafia (Mannie) and because I had no partner, it was better to just give a full team the belts. So I took that loss because it better fit the situation. The storyline of it made more sense.

People voted for Mannie to win, nothing was storylined for that. I was hoping for you and dangerous to win cause I think it be awesome if someone could carry Mr. Dangerous to a title win

technically i brought dangerous to be a multi-time dark match champion

[chaos lite]

So, yeah.

OVERDRIVE APRIL 18TH FEEDBACK

The first time I read it, I didn't feel this way, but looking back, the opening of the show..... it reminds me 90's WCW with the Goldberg entrances and whatnot. No? Maybe just a little? No. Alright.

I love the role Jenny Knite has taken. I was annoyed at first because I figured it was another random valet being brought into the wrestling scene with no purpose, but Jenny plays off of Evan well even with the one-liners, and I liked the cheap heat tactics used once he finally got to the ring. It didn't exactly poke fun at Boston and the situation in North Korea, but it clearly exploited them (in a PG-ish way) and nicely led into Smith's interruption and Callahan's interruption, both which I imagine would've gotten gigantic pops.

I want to point out how much of a drastic difference this opening scene looks from Overdrive say, 6 months ago. Callahan, Smith, Envi, and Delikado almost seem "tame" in comparison to Noble, Marvin, L1, and Hart, and I don't mean that in a bad way at all. It's not worse or necessarily better but a refreshing change from the kind of drama that dominated the Overdrive main event scene last year. I don't want to make the Attitude-Era vs PG-Era comparison because it's not quite that drastic, but it's the closest example I can think of. Anyway, nicely done segment. Delikado completely stole the show at the end.

Glad to see the commentators return and give a rundown of the show after the break, and then it led to Delikado vs Rebel which saw Delikado get a huge victory- huge for his character, and a burst of momentum that he needed desperately. The match was crazy, and I hope it doesn't get overlooked... it was everything an opener should be, but with two main-level stars. Apparently Rebel couldn't RP which is a shame, but completely forgivable and shouldn't have even been questioned considering who the guy is. Respect our vets, no? Doesn't that apply to efedding? ;D

Delikado works great with anybody, but his work with Buckson Gooch was great. Also, I LOL every time I read "Pope Delikado." This pushed the Overdrive Title match at Mayhem nicely (if Zing doesn't win this week) and gave BG exposure with a big time star in Deli.

It's an odd time to state this, but the theme and concept for this show was an awesome idea.

Buckson Gooch vs Level One did what it should've, and even though BG didn't go over, he looks like a million bucks coming out of this. The shoulder injury was sold splendidly!

We have Envi searching for BG which was a little offputting at first because BG stated to Delikado before his match that he was going to look for Envi- but considering that Gooch vs L1 happened right after that, and Gooch had his shoulder hurt, it makes sense that he wouldn't be wandering the halls searching for anybody. Again, the notable part of this segment was the utilization of the manager..... something that isn't seen too much on APW. My favorite part, however, is that BG gets more exposure with yet another top level star. Big things. Big things.

Shadow vs Zing was a nice little read, but did I miss the part where it was announced to substitute the Battle Royal? Big win for Zing either way- I'm a huge fan, having worked with her for a long time prior to APW, and I think with a proper feud (vs Shadow would be great) and some more involvement in the actual show, she could hold her own in the Xtreme or Overdrive Title division.

The Delikado segment was after this and I spent a few moments laughing at "Champion's Balls" which would've been moronic and immature if anybody BUT Deli said it. His new "Pope" gimmick is one of greatest things I've ever fucking seen. Excuse my Swiss. This segment made my day...... Jimmy Gooch is the perfect side character to have, keeping somebody as silly as Delikado from coming off as unbelievable, and making him a nice fit in the main event scene.

The Sindicate/Envi segment came after this and I thought for a moment that the whole thing was a swerve where Envi would join..... but this was not to be. Instead, he and L1 continue to hate each other, but this is the first time I can remember them exchanging words beyond "fuck you" so it was a welcome change of pace with dialogue that briefly made me forget that Evan had a match coming up, and made me excited to see an L1 vs Envi match, which I've finally accepted will never actually happen..... because TMarv hates me.

The triple threat match came after, and when I first skimmed it I was surprised at the length (I thought it'd be longer) but when I saw the content and what transpired, it makes sense that it happened, and also, keeping it short allows all 3 champions to keep a certain mystique about them that's very necessary for a titleholder. Congrats to Envi, and kudos to whoever came up with the spot with the special referees taking Callahan into the crowd/out of the match.

More hype for the OD Title match afterward. Somebody attacked Gooch? Now I'm excited. I feel like I know who it was, but the hints seemed too obvious.... I'll wait to see how it plays out. By the way, thank goodness, another BG segment!!

The main event was HUGE and I was pulling for different men at different points in the match. Dynamo goes down looking like a champ, but CJ Gates makes APW proud with a huge victory, and some personal reassurance. He needed a high profile win like this- not because his character was stale, but because he has an awesome character that could unfortunately get lost in the shuffle at a time like this, heading into Mayhem without a clear feud. This keeps him visible, and overall, was a great read.

Altogether, this was a fantastic show. I didn't realize until afterward that all the segments were submitted by the same 3-4 people, because they were spaced out perfectly and included several other Megastars.

My only gripe is that it seems that the WHC is playing second fiddle to the Overdrive Championship, which is only acceptable because of how new the WHC and its champion are to Overdrive..... but it seems like this is accidental. All 3 people involved in the World Title match are spectacular RPers but it seems that it's either been the Callahan Show or Delikado Show, never an even distribution. This isn't any one person's fault, and the match is still very visible and moderately hyped, but it seems that 50% of the hype can be contributed to the name-value of the participants.

Also, no hype for the Xtreme title match makes me sad. It was hyped by people not even involved in the match- and though Smith had an excellent involvement in the beginning of the night, this serves as an example, that even if you know your opponent or PPV opponent isn't available one week (and Havok had a great excuse) even a short interview or a quick shoot promo is a step in the right direction. I know for a fact that Smith had a lot on his plate last week as well, but these are some things that should be taken into consideration and held in the back of your mind going into a show.

Also, Buckson Gooch became a star on April 18th. Just saying.

That's all!