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Post by Reaver on Apr 29, 2013 14:01:02 GMT -4
havok
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Post by Reaver on Apr 29, 2013 14:01:28 GMT -4
ebwop
god im stupid....
vote: Havok
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Post by Matt Stone on Apr 29, 2013 14:20:57 GMT -4
The problem with the "wait and see" idea is that we have about ten people, at least, that need to be cleared and we have very limited options on that front. At least I assume we do, as I think KJE is the only person to clear someone. Town had no kill last night, so we don't likely have a vig. Lynch is our only weapon, and in a game this size I'd rather misfire a few times than sit back twiddling my thumbs
To respond to an earlier comment from L-1, A third party is far better than a bigger mafia. A bigger mafia means they all know each other and can pick us off one by one without any risk of self-harm. With a 3rd party, at least they can hit scum every now and then and scum can hit them.
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Post by Jules on Apr 29, 2013 14:32:56 GMT -4
The problem with the "wait and see" idea is that we have about ten people, at least, that need to be cleared and we have very limited options on that front. At least I assume we do, as I think KJE is the only person to clear someone. Town had no kill last night, so we don't likely have a vig. Lynch is our only weapon, and in a game this size I'd rather misfire a few times than sit back twiddling my thumbs To respond to an earlier comment from L-1, A third party is far better than a bigger mafia. A bigger mafia means they all know each other and can pick us off one by one without any risk of self-harm. With a 3rd party, at least they can hit scum every now and then and scum can hit them. I see this post as trying to create paranoia where there is no need for any. Playing the 'lynch is our only weapon' strikes me as someone trying too hard to get a lynch---- any lynch even. This isn't anything like a desperate situation such as LyLo, and knee jerk reactions like this one rarely go anywhere positive. If there is a town vig, why would they use their power on night 1? I've seen too many of these day 2 lynches based on something so trivial that turn out being mislynches of town players. I know some people play aggressive: that's their style, nothing will change it. But there's playing aggressive smart, and there is playing aggressive dumb. I'm not saying this one or the other, I'm just saying based on what this wagon is going off, you won't get a vote from me. Right now there just isn't enough to justify it. |
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Post by Jules on Apr 29, 2013 14:34:16 GMT -4
ebwop god im stupid.... vote: HavokEBWOP Any particular reason, Knux? Or are you just going along with the bandwagon? |
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Post by KJE on Apr 29, 2013 14:39:10 GMT -4
I am not comfortable with a vote right now. Sure someone can say something that gives them away in a heartbeat (IE: Me in GoT) however most the time it's just us reading too much into what was said because of the type of game we are playing.
Why do we need to lynch anyone right now? Town outnumbers whatever we have against us. Why chance losing a town member because of them saying something that rubbed someone the wrong way?
At this point in time I think it's best to see what every was, or wasn't able to get. Use our time to have people talking and see if people slip up. We have night actions for a reason... the more people talk... the more they might slip and we know what direction to take our night actions in.
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Post by KJE on Apr 29, 2013 14:40:12 GMT -4
EBWOP:
Every was in the third paragraph is supposed to be everyone...
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Post by Level-Two on Apr 29, 2013 14:57:38 GMT -4
Isn't knuckles the same guy who always loves to tell everyone to ''wait and see'' and all about ''letting someone defend themselves'' in previous games even in the face of actual REAL evidence?
FOS: Knuckles?
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Post by papapancho on Apr 29, 2013 15:02:39 GMT -4
Notice that Havok has gone completely silent since the voting began on him? Makes me feel only more comfortable with my vote since so far he's refused to defend himself. Somebody doesn't want him talking and getting himself stuck by his own words again.
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Post by Michael Jennings on Apr 29, 2013 15:27:17 GMT -4
I think you're right about that.
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Post by Nathaniel Havok on Apr 29, 2013 17:29:23 GMT -4
Wow, my bad guys. Never knew that it would be looked at like that. I was just saying. This lynch goes through, you're lynching a townee. Plain and simple. And Pancho... People do have lives, bro. Couldn't post today so far... Not like I sit at my computer waiting for people to post on the forums lol.
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Post by Speede on Apr 29, 2013 18:12:20 GMT -4
Vote Count!
Havok: 5 (Pancho, Talon, Stone, JamesV, Reaver)
With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch!
Deadline is Wednesday, May 1 at 1:30am Eastern Time!
Prods will be sent to those who have not posted during Day Two at 11:59pm est tonight!
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Post by Pepsi on Apr 29, 2013 18:23:07 GMT -4
I don't really see a Havok lynch as a sound idea at this time. He is notorious for saying things that come across as scummy when he is not, just like Knuckles. I am not big on the wait and see strategy, I'm just not convinced enough with Havok.
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Post by Jason Cashe on Apr 29, 2013 19:10:59 GMT -4
I've sat and hit refresh before. However I don't see someone NOT doing that as being scum. I'm not a Master of this game and maybe Havok is scum. I just think that being a reason to vote on him as such is kind of reaching. Has it really been THAT long between his posts? Not really. I'm town but if someone wanted to challenge that, I'm not gonna sit here and hit refresh to defend myself against every little theory. I don't see enough proof in the write up or in any posts to think someone is being scum. Level One is the only one really playing a character in his posts, we just don't know his game plan for it. Another person to get a finger pointed at him. So anything noticed gets voted on? Okay I'm defending others without knowing, I MUST be scum now right? Lets slow it down, day 2, nothing noticable yet. I'm interested in seeing the next write up.
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Post by papapancho on Apr 29, 2013 20:32:41 GMT -4
Wow, my bad guys. Never knew that it would be looked at like that. I was just saying. This lynch goes through, you're lynching a townee. Plain and simple. And Pancho... People do have lives, bro. Couldn't post today so far... Not like I sit at my computer waiting for people to post on the forums lol. Oh really I didn't know that. I thought we all lived in our mothers basements shutting into colostomy bags. Save your meta excuses. Your actual defense is shit. Don't lynch me I'm town? How about we talk what you are doing for the town or any opinions you have. How about people who don't want to Lynch Havok speak up and offer alternate theories. This is a real lassez faire town |
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Post by Nathaniel Havok on Apr 29, 2013 21:26:39 GMT -4
Wow, my bad guys. Never knew that it would be looked at like that. I was just saying. This lynch goes through, you're lynching a townee. Plain and simple. And Pancho... People do have lives, bro. Couldn't post today so far... Not like I sit at my computer waiting for people to post on the forums lol. Oh really I didn't know that. I thought we all lived in our mothers basements shutting into colostomy bags. Save your meta excuses. Your actual defense is shit. Don't lynch me I'm town? How about we talk what you are doing for the town or any opinions you have. How about people who don't want to Lynch Havok speak up and offer alternate theories. This is a real lassez faire town To me, this sounds like you're splitting hairs. Your aggression makes you look like you're trying to force a town lynch, and before your most recent post, I could have understood your aggression. But now, more people are coming out about saying "I'm not voting Havok", and you sound like you're starting to panic. No town lynch means you and your mafia buddies don't get the easy kill, therefore, you're starting to panic. And for future reference, you SHIT in a colostomy bag. But you might want to SHUT your mouth, before you and your scum buddies are outed. |
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Post by Matt Stone on Apr 29, 2013 21:29:59 GMT -4
Accuses someone of being scum
Doesn't vote for him
Scum move.
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Post by Nathaniel Havok on Apr 29, 2013 21:36:58 GMT -4
Accuses someone of being scum Doesn't vote for him Scum move. Following up on my comments with a "scum move" post... Scum move. See what I did there? That's easy word play, buddy. Nice try. |
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Post by Jason Cashe on Apr 29, 2013 21:38:16 GMT -4
^Kind of seeing this too. I'm riding fence here on the two sides of the argument right now. Kind of fun seeing some aggression as well.
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Post by Nathaniel Havok on Apr 29, 2013 21:41:08 GMT -4
EBWOP
Anyone else notice that when Stone makes a move, Papa follows... Then when Papa makes a move, Stone follows?
EXAMPLE: Stone starts the votes on me, Papa follows... Papa asks those who DON'T want me lynched to speak up, Stone just so happens to be the first one (that's not me) to comment, and says what I said was a scum move. Sound like the two of you could be in QT planning this whole thing out. Think about it, other townees. Sounds like these two could be in QT forming a plan, if you ask me. Just too convenient that you're both online right now, talking in the game forum, agreeing about everything, and completely FOR this lynch, when you have NOTHING to go off of, except me reiterating what I had ALREADY said.
So tell me, Stone... Since you're so far up Papa's ass... What did he eat for breakfast today?
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Post by Matt Stone on Apr 29, 2013 21:43:59 GMT -4
Well it would appear that he ate your patience. With so many people saying they don't like the lynch, you're certainly playing hard to convince everyone that Pancho is to blame. The smarter play would have been to just contribute to the town, but throwing mud at people is another way to go.
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Post by Michael Jennings on Apr 29, 2013 21:45:24 GMT -4
I'm seriously considering unvoting right now because there's a lot of bullshit going on right now that I don't agree with. Lot of manipulating too. I don't like the last few posts by Pancho, Havok, and Stone at all. Seems more like a "He said, she said" bitch fest more than anything to me.
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Post by Jason Cashe on Apr 29, 2013 21:48:36 GMT -4
Break out the ruler and measure already! Good Damn!
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Post by Nathaniel Havok on Apr 29, 2013 21:51:08 GMT -4
Honestly, I understood what Stone was saying. Based on past games, saying what I said, could easily see it.
HOWEVER... We need to think clearly here.
Stone jumped on it, understandable. Papa jumped on it, understandable. But look at the comradery between the two, for this lynch. They seem to be COMPLETELY on the same page, and 100% that I'm scum. NEITHER OF THEM HAVE BEEN CLEARED, AND NEITHER OF THEM HAVE CLEARED THE OTHER!
Think about it! Seems pretty obvious to me. Am I the only one? Lol
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Post by Level-Two on Apr 29, 2013 21:51:42 GMT -4
Is it laissez-faire to be against a day one lynch? I know it's day two but it's a lot like a day one, isn't it? No info that implicates anyone and a whole lot of nitpicking, right?
Don't games this size usually start off with four mafia to begin with? I am not particularly worried, are you?
Aren't mis lynches worse then no lynches? If the lot of you are sure enough to vote then you can be sure enough to check him out tonight and confirm it one way or the other, right?
Town almost lost the last game for sloppy lynching, correct? Isn't there a lot of people in a hurry to lead the town and they aren't even in a position to?
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Post by Michael Jennings on Apr 29, 2013 21:55:39 GMT -4
Break out the ruler and measure already! Good Damn! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! At least somebody gets what I'm saying.  |
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Post by Matt Stone on Apr 29, 2013 22:01:29 GMT -4
For the record, Pancho could easily be scum. I was RB'ed last night, I know nothing. Pancho and I appear to be on the same page because we play together in CRW and have a similar style. Something you said struck a cord with both of us, as well as a few others and we voted accordingly. I don't know if you've been paying attention, but I have been posting quite frequently in this game, not just when Pancho has a "plan".
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Post by Michael Jennings on Apr 29, 2013 22:06:38 GMT -4
Honestly, I understood what Stone was saying. Based on past games, saying what I said, could easily see it. HOWEVER... We need to think clearly here. Stone jumped on it, understandable. Papa jumped on it, understandable. But look at the comradery between the two, for this lynch. They seem to be COMPLETELY on the same page, and 100% that I'm scum. NEITHER OF THEM HAVE BEEN CLEARED, AND NEITHER OF THEM HAVE CLEARED THE OTHER! Think about it! Seems pretty obvious to me. Am I the only one? Lol What's with all the Caps Locked words? Not helping your case at all. Making it seem like you've got steam coming out of your ears right now. |
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Post by Nathaniel Havok on Apr 29, 2013 22:17:34 GMT -4
For the record, Pancho could easily be scum. I was RB'ed last night, I know nothing. Pancho and I appear to be on the same page because we play together in CRW and have a similar style. Something you said struck a cord with both of us, as well as a few others and we voted accordingly. I don't know if you've been paying attention, but I have been posting quite frequently in this game, not just when Pancho has a "plan". Fair enough. But if you're able to say "Pancho could easily be scum", then please, do yourself a favor, and look past the "No, mine is bigger" bullshit, and realize that just as much as he could be scum, I could easily be town, and I am, that I promise you. Get what I'm saying? Truth is, I've TRIED to play mafia different these days. Instead of doing my usual "Piss everyone off with everything I say, and get pissed when they call me out", I've been trying to change up my game, in hopes that I can become a better player. Obviously, I still haven't figured it out. Lol. |
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Post by Matt Stone on Apr 29, 2013 22:23:08 GMT -4
You could be town, obviously this isn't a 100% thing. But I have a feeling I'm going to be RB'ed all game <fuck you TMarv  > and this is the best way to scum hunt without info. Find someone who looks scummy <which you admitted you saw> and lynch them. If they spin red, we celebrate, if they spin green, look at the lynchers. In my experience though, it's the people that add a vote and thats it that usually turn out to be band wagon scum <Unless your initials are KJE and you just admit to bandwagoning <3 >. Out of everyone, you strike me as the scummiest <aside from the AFK'ers> and so you have my vote. Do you have anything town-related to contribute? |
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> and this is the best way to scum hunt without info. Find someone who looks scummy <which you admitted you saw> and lynch them. If they spin red, we celebrate, if they spin green, look at the lynchers. In my experience though, it's the people that add a vote and thats it that usually turn out to be band wagon scum <Unless your initials are KJE and you just admit to bandwagoning <3 >. Out of everyone, you strike me as the scummiest <aside from the AFK'ers> and so you have my vote. Do you have anything town-related to contribute?
