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Post by Michael Jennings on Apr 29, 2013 22:29:39 GMT -4
For the record, Pancho could easily be scum. I was RB'ed last night, I know nothing. Pancho and I appear to be on the same page because we play together in CRW and have a similar style. Something you said struck a cord with both of us, as well as a few others and we voted accordingly. I don't know if you've been paying attention, but I have been posting quite frequently in this game, not just when Pancho has a "plan". Fair enough. But if you're able to say "Pancho could easily be scum", then please, do yourself a favor, and look past the "No, mine is bigger" bullshit, and realize that just as much as he could be scum, I could easily be town, and I am, that I promise you. Get what I'm saying? Truth is, I've TRIED to play mafia different these days. Instead of doing my usual "Piss everyone off with everything I say, and get pissed when they call me out", I've been trying to change up my game, in hopes that I can become a better player. Obviously, I still haven't figured it out. Lol. Wait...you're not doing that now?! It sure seems like you have been going by what I'm seeing.
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Post by Nathaniel Havok on Apr 29, 2013 22:33:06 GMT -4
You could be town, obviously this isn't a 100% thing. But I have a feeling I'm going to be RB'ed all game <fuck you TMarv > and this is the best way to scum hunt without info. Find someone who looks scummy <which you admitted you saw> and lynch them. If they spin red, we celebrate, if they spin green, look at the lynchers. In my experience though, it's the people that add a vote and thats it that usually turn out to be band wagon scum <Unless your initials are KJE and you just admit to bandwagoning <3 >. Out of everyone, you strike me as the scummiest <aside from the AFK'ers> and so you have my vote. Do you have anything town-related to contribute? You want me to out my role, right? Here's how I see it. Damned if I do, damned if I don't. I say "My role is pretty much useless", then I'm "lying", and "trying to save myself", in your eyes, right? I say "I have a bad ass role", then I'm outting myself for scum to night kill me, OR hop onto the bandwaggon and lynch me during day phase (if they haven't already voted). See what I'm saying? I'm damned if I do, damned if I don't. I have a role that could easily raise some scum eyebrows, which I think you might already know (if my gut instinct is right). It could easily get me night killed. That should tell you the kind of role I have. If there's someone who would like to check that out tonight, feel free. I have NOTHING to hide. Hint: Night one, I took a good look in the mirror. Now, as far as you being RBed, do we REALLY know you were? Or is it apart of the plan? Say you were RBed, get me to out myself, and you follow through with a night kill or townee lynch? I'm really tired of arguing, and this has really given me a headache. Too many possibilities, too much drama for a day two. We have NO info, and we're just going off of he said she said. We need to cut this out, if we're all REALLY on the same page. I'm town, and if you are, we need to cut this out.
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Post by Nathaniel Havok on Apr 29, 2013 22:33:38 GMT -4
Fair enough. But if you're able to say "Pancho could easily be scum", then please, do yourself a favor, and look past the "No, mine is bigger" bullshit, and realize that just as much as he could be scum, I could easily be town, and I am, that I promise you. Get what I'm saying? Truth is, I've TRIED to play mafia different these days. Instead of doing my usual "Piss everyone off with everything I say, and get pissed when they call me out", I've been trying to change up my game, in hopes that I can become a better player. Obviously, I still haven't figured it out. Lol. Wait...you're not doing that now?! It sure seems like you have been going by what I'm seeing. EBWOP Very funny. Lol
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Post by Michael Jennings on Apr 29, 2013 22:42:14 GMT -4
Hint: Night one, I took a good look in the mirror. Are you saying you targetted yourself night one?
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Post by Talon on Apr 29, 2013 22:42:37 GMT -4
unvote[\b]
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Post by Talon on Apr 29, 2013 22:44:26 GMT -4
Ebwop: fucking phone....
Unvote
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Post by Nathaniel Havok on Apr 29, 2013 22:51:57 GMT -4
Hint: Night one, I took a good look in the mirror. Are you saying you targetted yourself night one? Si
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Post by Pepsi on Apr 29, 2013 22:52:43 GMT -4
Havok,
Seriously man, you weren't even in serious danger. Why would you give up that info? Abe Lincoln once said "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt" Listen to Abe Havok!
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Post by Michael Jennings on Apr 29, 2013 22:58:26 GMT -4
Unvote
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Post by Reaver on Apr 29, 2013 23:45:27 GMT -4
I call bs havok, we both cant have the same thing. My results were posted a couple pages back. Sorry i have no post restrictions just busy with stuff n will post y in ooc but with all this confusion, havok is lying. My info of james proves it
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Post by Matt Stone on Apr 29, 2013 23:48:20 GMT -4
For those of you looking for a quick recap:
Havok claims cop Reaver counter claims Matt Stone's vote doesn't change.
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Post by C.J. Gates on Apr 30, 2013 0:17:22 GMT -4
This all just seems like too much of a pissing contest. Our backs are not against the wall right now, so we don't have to rush a lynch on Havok based off of one post he made (which is what it all started out as, and has transitioned into the aforementioned pissing contest).
If you want me to throw a name out because I didn't want to vote Havok? I'd say Stone, simply because he's fine misfiring a few times to try and land scum, throwing townies under the bus until he does. Not exactly a smart play if you ask me.
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Post by Nathaniel Havok on Apr 30, 2013 0:39:26 GMT -4
Knux, check me. Seriously. You know damn well that there can be more than one!
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Post by Level-Two on Apr 30, 2013 1:45:41 GMT -4
Yeah guys, don't you think we should all just out our power roles night one? Sounds like a great idea? REALLY GUYS?
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Post by Level-Two on Apr 30, 2013 1:46:28 GMT -4
EWOP: Day two?
Who keeps track of time anymore?
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Post by papapancho on Apr 30, 2013 1:58:04 GMT -4
I'm not asking anyone to join my vote but I'm comfortable where it stands especially after that counter claim.
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Post by Jules on Apr 30, 2013 11:03:08 GMT -4
Knux, check me. Seriously. You know damn well that there can be more than one! Havok, since you've outed yourself, what result did you get? Also, since Knux has counter-claimed. Knux, how can you be certain your result was correct on night 1?
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Post by Nathaniel Havok on Apr 30, 2013 11:48:27 GMT -4
Jules, I showed innocent. Now, with how experienced Knuckles is in this game... My question is... If he were a cop... Wouldn't he have checked himself, too?
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Post by Michael Jennings on Apr 30, 2013 11:56:13 GMT -4
Jules, I showed innocent. Now, with how experienced Knuckles is in this game... My question is... If he were a cop... Wouldn't he have checked himself, too? Knuckles, did you check yourself night one?
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Post by Level-Two on Apr 30, 2013 12:04:17 GMT -4
Jules, I showed innocent. Now, with how experienced Knuckles is in this game... My question is... If he were a cop... Wouldn't he have checked himself, too? Knuckles, did you check yourself night one? Didn't he already state that he checked you night one?
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Post by KJE on Apr 30, 2013 12:19:22 GMT -4
Yeah he stated he checked you night one.... havok is saying he checked himself. Now its up to us to figure out the whats what.
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Post by Nathaniel Havok on Apr 30, 2013 12:39:53 GMT -4
Knuckles, I highly doubt you're a cop. You are VERY experienced in these games, and know you should have checked yourself. I'm calling bullshit. Why wouldn't you have, or why didn't you check yourself? As a veteran, you would have checked yourself if you're really a cop. Give me a good reason why you didn't...
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Post by Reaver on Apr 30, 2013 12:47:06 GMT -4
Theres no point in checking myself nite 1 since this isnt la noir mafia and wouldnt have more than 1 cop. Wanna check me? Then tell me james, was i wrong?
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Post by A.C. Smith on Apr 30, 2013 12:48:13 GMT -4
Theres no point in checking myself nite 1 since this isnt la noir mafia and wouldnt have more than 1 cop. Wanna check me? Then tell me james, was i wrong? To be fair, Callahan's Die Hard game had two cops (IIRC, we mislynched Chaz because we all thought, "No way there are TWO cops in this game"). That's not to say that's how Speede has his game set up, I'm just saying there's a non-zero percent chance, that's all.
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Post by KJE on Apr 30, 2013 12:48:58 GMT -4
No offence... but if you were wrong... James would be stupid to tell you so... and I know he is smarter than that.
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Post by Nathaniel Havok on Apr 30, 2013 12:53:06 GMT -4
Dude, we had a game recently that had THREE cops! How don't you remember that? When I get to work (I'm on my cellphone right now), I'll do my research, and find out which game it was. But yes, there can be more than one, more than two, even! Why do I always get this role!?!? It's a god damn curse! Lol.
Any who, anyone who would like to challenge my claim, please, check me! I'm tired of arguing about nothing.
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Post by C.J. Gates on Apr 30, 2013 12:57:18 GMT -4
Some games employ two cops, one sane and one insane. Or at least, games that I've seen/played in.
Who hasn't checked in today? Only mention it with the off chance that the scum is hiding in the shadows allowing the town to argue about Havok's post.
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Post by Nathaniel Havok on Apr 30, 2013 13:03:00 GMT -4
CJ... That would mean one of two things...
Either...
A.) Knuckles is an insane cop (since I got an innocent read on myself, and I'm already a townsman). Or B.) Knuckles or myself, are the naive cop (and everyone will come up innocent for one of us).
I believe Knuckles is who he says he is (his excuse was valid enough for me). If he genuinely thought that there'd only be one cop, I can easily see his excuse being valid. Question now is, which one of us is sane, and which one is naive. I'm ruling out insane, because of my innocent read on myself. Just an FYI.
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Post by C.J. Gates on Apr 30, 2013 13:05:21 GMT -4
Not saying that one of you is. You could both be normal. I was just stating that there have been games, even off APW, where there were two cops. And with 17 of us, I wouldn't put it past Speede to put two cops in the game. I probably should have made that part more clear.
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Post by Johnny Rebel on Apr 30, 2013 13:38:12 GMT -4
Not saying that one of you is. You could both be normal. I was just stating that there have been games, even off APW, where there were two cops. And with 17 of us, I wouldn't put it past Speede to put two cops in the game. I probably should have made that part more clear. I'd tend to lean towards one of them being insane/naive than there being multiple cop roles in the game. I don't have any way of proving that obviously, call it a hunch. It would certainly be an imbalance otherwise. Two-cops isn't unheard of, with a game recently featuring three, as was just pointed out, however - in a game this small, it would defy normal logic. I also agree with an early statement made - if you have a power role, please don't out yourself now! It's too early in the game to be making those types of mistakes... we are obviously dealing with a group that recruits and we can't afford to lose you.
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