Super Mario Bros Mafia (Day 5)

[Michael Jennings]

Ah yes, the day one pointless arguing doesn't seem so pointless in retrospect. Now the thing to think about is Bomb-omb the only purple or are there more? Thinking now it's a one player third party role but what worries me is the possibility of a cult. Think it's unlikely but now my interest is piqued on this issue.

[KJE]

So, ill just come out with it, and whatever happens is going to happen. Believe me or not... I am being set up to look like a liar right about now.


I was role blocked last night. That is going to set off alarms more than likely with people either saying that I lied about my role in the first place, or possibly others might now think I am mafia.

Ya'll can do with it as you will. If I wind up lynched... everyone will still know that my information on L1 is legit, so therefore it's not for nothing in the end.

[Matt Stone]

Reading everything back...

Vote: TMarv

Said nothing day 2 and was not MK'ed, possibly QT communication.

[KJE]

There might be a silencer among us. Might want to wait and see if he says anything today.

[Jules]

If all is legit with my role I don't believe Tmarv is scum. I'd like to hear from Knux and Havok, and where possible, without breaking rules, any chance you could tell us the key word given back from your investigations?

[T-Marv]

I was silenced Night one... Will have more to say in a second, on my phone and reading.

[T-Marv]

Okay, after reading the writeup and what I know about my role.

Vote: Buckson Gooch

He is most likely third party and i KNOW Why he wasn't able to kill last night!

[Buckson Gooch]

May 3, 2013 9:19:05 GMT -4 T-Marv said:

Okay, after reading the writeup and what I know about my role.

Vote: Buckson Gooch

He is most likely third party and i KNOW Why he wasn't able to kill last night!

I'm not Third Party. I was roleblocked. I haven't effectively used my role because of being out of town.

I was going to use my action to find out if KJE was town or not so I could clear her. Instead, I was roleblocked and now have a vote on me. Something is fishy here.

[Buckson Gooch]

EWBOP

2 possible conclusions here.

1) TMarv is mafia roleblocker, blocked me and then claims that I'm the 3rd party.

2) TMarv is town roleblocker, blocked me and assumes that I was 3rd party who was blocked.

3) Or he watched someone roleblock me and assumed that I was 3rd party in the write up.

I'm very much town and I can very much be an asset to the town. Sorry for my lack of play.

[Buckson Gooch]

EWBOP

And by 2, I obviously meant 3.

[T-Marv]

You WERE roleblocked, and I roleblocked you. And reading the writeup.... It makes sense that you're Bomb-omb or whatever.

[Buckson Gooch]

May 3, 2013 9:40:27 GMT -4 T-Marv said:

You WERE roleblocked, and I roleblocked you. And reading the writeup.... It makes sense that you're Bomb-omb or whatever.

Well, you stopped me from getting a read on KJE. I'm not Bomb-omb, whoever that is is getting a kick out of this.

Good chance there are two roleblockers (Scum/Town) or one roleblocker and a JOAT in a game this size.

[Buckson Gooch]

EWBOP

You can keep coming at me, but you'll lose a valuable town member (well at least my role) and you'll see it in the write up. I am town.

[Jules]

If you're soft-claiming commuter and were out of town, how can your role be used to clear another player? This is inconsistent with my understanding of this role.

I know commuter can be immune from all night actions in some interpretations, but you've admitted you were roleblocked (so this condition obviously does not apply if you were a commuter), and Marv said he did it. Clearly, a kill was stopped last night. Given what I said before about Marv, I've got no reason to doubt him. I think Gooch is lying.

vote: Buckson Gooch

[Buckson Gooch]

May 3, 2013 9:49:11 GMT -4 Jules said:

If you're soft-claiming commuter and were out of town, how can your role be used to clear another player? This is inconsistent with my understanding of this role.

I know commuter can be immune from all night actions in some interpretations, but you've admitted you were roleblocked (so this condition obviously does not apply if you were a commuter), and Marv said he did it. Clearly, a kill was stopped last night. Given what I said before about Marv, I've got no reason to doubt him. I think Gooch is lying.

vote: Buckson Gooch

How did I soft claim commuter? I affirmed that I was roleblocked. How could I clear someone with commuter...oh, I legit was out of town, sorry I didn't clarify. I have legit been gone and away from the computer.

I think it should be obvious what my role is. What role would I have that I could investigate KJE and find out if she is town or scum? Yes, I'm claiming that role because I AM the role, lynch me and you'll find out soon enough.

There can be more than one roleblock in a night phase. TMarv blocked me, but someone else blocked Bomb-omb.

[T-Marv]

KJE claimed to be blocked. You were blocked.

KJE came out with info before she was called out. You didn't untill you were called out. The writeup spells it out clearly. I roleblocked you. I stopped Bomb-Omb. This is a no brainer.

[Jules]

May 3, 2013 9:53:26 GMT -4 Buckson Gooch said:

May 3, 2013 9:49:11 GMT -4 Jules said:

If you're soft-claiming commuter and were out of town, how can your role be used to clear another player? This is inconsistent with my understanding of this role.

I know commuter can be immune from all night actions in some interpretations, but you've admitted you were roleblocked (so this condition obviously does not apply if you were a commuter), and Marv said he did it. Clearly, a kill was stopped last night. Given what I said before about Marv, I've got no reason to doubt him. I think Gooch is lying.

vote: Buckson Gooch

How did I soft claim commuter? I affirmed that I was roleblocked. How could I clear someone with commuter...oh, I legit was out of town, sorry I didn't clarify. I have legit been gone and away from the computer.

I think it should be obvious what my role is. What role would I have that I could investigate KJE and find out if she is town or scum? Yes, I'm claiming that role because I AM the role, lynch me and you'll find out soon enough.

There can be more than one roleblock in a night phase. TMarv blocked me, but someone else blocked Bomb-omb.

Okay, my bad. Thanks for the clarification.

But you're claiming cop now? Really? So that's three cop claims in this game. Sorry Gooch, I'm not buying it. At best you've been sloppy and not followed the thread, at worst you're caught in a lie--- and a bad one considering previous claims.

I'm more confident of my vote now.

[T-Marv]

So who'd you investigate night one then?

[Jules]

I think he's implying he didn't use it night 1 because he was out of town. But I went through the thread and found this from day 2.

Apr 29, 2013 8:11:59 GMT -4 Buckson Gooch said:

There just isn't enough info for me to say anything. i didn't get any info on my night action. I definitely will during the next night phase.

Why are we voting for Havoc?

This to me is Gooch saying he used his role, but it yielded no info. Otherwise, why not just say I didn't get use my role, or simply just say nothing at all?

It's one of those comments vague enough to suggest he has an active power role, but without committing to anything specific.

But there's definitely an inconsistency between this quote and what Gooch is saying today.

[T-Marv]

IT's cause he was roleblocked night one too.... And there was no 3rd party SK again (just not in the writeup.)

I know this, cause I rbd him twice in a row....

He's scum!

[Buckson Gooch]

May 3, 2013 10:22:35 GMT -4 Jules said:

I think he's implying he didn't use it night 1 because he was out of town. But I went through the thread and found this from day 2.

Apr 29, 2013 8:11:59 GMT -4 Buckson Gooch said:

There just isn't enough info for me to say anything. i didn't get any info on my night action. I definitely will during the next night phase.

Why are we voting for Havoc?

This to me is Gooch saying he used his role, but it yielded no info. Otherwise, why not just say I didn't get use my role, or simply just say nothing at all?

It's one of those comments vague enough to suggest he has an active power role, but without committing to anything specific.

But there's definitely an inconsistency between this quote and what Gooch is saying today.

Speed can confirm that I asked him if my night action had gone through. There seemed to either be a ProBoards error in my message getting to him or I was extremely tired and didn't send it. I'm not sure. I asked Speed and he said he didn't get it. He can confirm this, if he chooses. That is why I said that I didn't get any info on my night action.

Wow...Looking at all the evidence and circumstance, if there were someone else, I'd throw a vote on me.

I'm town though, just played a terrible game. Your focus on me is taking focus off of the real Bomb-omb and scum.

[Buckson Gooch]

EWBOP

The only time I've been roleblocked this game was last night. I, thanks to proboards and helping the efforts at West, haven't been able to get a night action through all game. Explained in the post above.

[Buckson Gooch]

EWBOP

I have a friend in my office and I'm telling him what's going on in this game. I told him my role and told him about how crazy this week has been. I told him about the accusations made against me with evidence and circumstance. I just laughed because I'm town, but all evidence brought up points the other way.

I guarantee that I'll flip town. If you vote me off, you'll see that I'm telling the truth.

[C.J. Gates]

I guess Bob-Omb was roleblocked...at first it read more like a protection, but reading back I don't think the two roles involved would make sense for that to happen. Just seemed like DK saved Goomba by pointing it out to him...

Though if Gooch is claiming cop, and Havok and Knuckles also claimed cop...something does seem fishy here. I mean, two cops is one thing, though I guess one of them could always be a Mafia role cop or something. Still, a third cop coming out seems mighty odd.

The fact that Gooch was roleblocked twice and there was no kill either night...that's also something to lean on.

For right now I am going to hold off voting. Will see if anyone else has anything before doing so.

[C.J. Gates]

EBWOP

Meant characters instead of "two roles involved". A minor correction.

[Level-Two]

Vote: Buckson Gooch?

I don't know if he's the bomb per say but the write up also makes it's plausible that he was Wario, as well?

I read through this thread and Buckson Gooch is flopping around like a dying fish out of water, isn't he?

Speed can confirm that I asked him if my night action had gone through. There seemed to either be a ProBoards error in my message getting to him or I was extremely tired and didn't send it. I'm not sure. I asked Speed and he said he didn't get it. He can confirm this, if he chooses. That is why I said that I didn't get any info on my night action.

This also caught my did, did it catch yours? I think Buckson is actually telling the truth here... but does that mean he's town? We saw zilch from the Bomb Omb after night one - if Buckson is him - doesn't that actually SUPPORT Terry Marvin's claim?

You are way too panicky after two votes... doesn't it sound like you just got, got?

[KJE]

I was going to sit on being role blocked last night and just not say a word, but the more I thought about it I said fuck it and just outted it all at the risk of waking up to have been lynched. This whole cop thing.... I thought we moved passed it but now there is another? Im sorry I am not buying it. If we lynched gooch and he IS a cop... we know where to go from there... and thats the other two so called cops. Unless something better pops up of course.


Vote: Gooch


At the same time... We have seen Mafia pretend to have been silenced before just so that they can play town.... lets not be fooled by it and get information on Marv. I know Jules said he could confirm Marv as town... but im not sure how so.. Jules please don't say anything about your role... I am just suggesting we get confirmation on alignments is all <3

[Nathaniel Havok]

Here's what I see... T-Marv is finally unsilenced, and comes out with his information. He places a vote, and Gooch has FLIPPED shit, posting doubles and triples, seeming desperate. He then comes out and claims cop? No, not buying it. Not even in the slightest. You're a desperate man, trying to save your ass. Claiming cop wasn't the smartest thing to do, and if you're not third party, you're definitely scum.

Vote: Gooch

Now, I'm not sure why. But my night action came back inconclusive. I think I might have been who everyone was going after, but I'm not sure. I knew there'd be some backlash to the arguments I got into last day phase. But somehow, without being RBed or anything like that, I got an inconclusive read. Anybody have any logical explanation for this?

[A.C. Smith]

VOTE: Gooch

He's overreacting like crazy, as Havok is pointing out. It doesn't appear that we have hard evidence at this point, which is unfortunate, but him being roleblocked each night there wasn't a kill is at least something.

[Jules]

May 3, 2013 12:39:00 GMT -4 Nathaniel Havok said:

Now, I'm not sure why. But my night action came back inconclusive. I think I might have been who everyone was going after, but I'm not sure. I knew there'd be some backlash to the arguments I got into last day phase. But somehow, without being RBed or anything like that, I got an inconclusive read. Anybody have any logical explanation for this?

Is that the verdict you got--- inconclusive? Who did you target?

The night before the verdict you got back was--- innocent, right? You checked yourself?