Meltdown May 6th Feedback & Discussion

[Evan De Parker]

...That was a lot.

Alright.

Credit to Titan, Jules, Raab, and Graham for match-writing.

Credit goes to Titan, Roberts, Pepsi, Guv, Robina, Graham, McDonald, Bailey, AJP, LA, Speede, Red Scorpion, Knox, Niobe, and Jennings for segments.

Thanks for your patience!

Feedback and discussion are appreciated and heavily encouraged.

Also-- please inform me of any coding errors that I may have missed. Literally, I spent TWO HOURS coding this thing... I don't even know how that effing happens, but it happened. PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU READ THE CODING GUIDE, PEOPLE! PLEASE! I am OCD beyond your wildest imaginations, and my psyche won't allow me to post a show unless it's properly coded. Thank you.

But all of you helped make this show very enjoyable to write. Saints, the whole lot of you. More than Keaton, even!

[Jason Cashe]

ENVI, FEEL FREE TO ADD OR END HOWEVER. WE COULD EITHER CUT TO COMMERCIAL BREAK OR HAVE SAVAGE'S MUSIC HIT AND HIM MAKE HIS ENTRANCE AND START THE MATCH.

That being included in Knoxville's segment along with the segment itself replaying back to back. Outside of that, great show. I really loved the flash backs of the History to the NA Title. Very cool shit there Envi. Smart setup and it made things more enjoyable and gave anticipation going into the big Main Event. I wanted to get a segment done for the show but I was just swamped with things. And I don't care if he's KNOX now, he's Knoxville to me and to Kash.

[chaos lite]

Oh man, the "Ville" is gone!? But now how are we going to turn every partner he has into _____ville?

Knoxmare > Iron Nightmare

[Tommy Knox]

And that's why.

[Michael Callahan]

Loserville

Population: Tommy Knox

["The Real Deal" Ellis Graham]

Okay, so first of all, the entrances to the 6-man tag were my fault. I wrote the match but didn't include the "normal" entrances because, honestly, I was very concerned about how late I was sending Evan the match so I just wanted to get it to him. I know now that it is preferential to take the extra time to properly code than to rush the GM with something he will need to fix because, well, ain't nobody got time for that.

For the actual show, Guv looks in serious jeopardy, which is good for a fan watching to see if the face overcomes. Plus, Guv has looked pretty invincible so to make him look weak was no easy task.

I also know Robina as corporate champion would be a very fun narrative for the future so I'm definitely intrigued to see who wins at Mayhem.

I hope you guys liked the Jennings/Graham vendetta this week even though I kinda messed up part of it as mentioned earlier. For that matter, I could use public/private criticisms on the two matches I wrote, since I don't normally write so I don't have as strong a sense of "this is good to go" as some of our more experienced writers have.

Looking forward to the NBK/Iron Nightmare match at Mayhem. Circumstances have caused both NBK & Jennings to make face turns they may not have planned, but credit to all 3 for really running with the hand their dealt.

I like Red Scorpion. He got a lot of airtime tonight but its good for him to lay the foundation for his character, which apparently includes the worker guy. Curious how this is all gonna tie together moving forward.

If that handicapped match was Peace's exit strategy, then it was real nice of him to use it to give a big rub to a young team. There's now three legitimate heel tag teams on Meltdown, but they all fit different niches so it doesn't seem crowded.

I think Speede coming out to make the save at the end helped propel him to the top of the Meltdown food chain. With how he's been handled since returning, no one would be surprised if he was the first in line to challenge Robina if she grabs the title.

Can't wait for Supershow! For us Meltdown folk, it's like having two PPVs in three days!

[Tommy Knox]

May 7, 2013 6:52:35 GMT -4 Michael Callahan said:

Loserville

Population: Tommy Knox

Always visiting: your mom.

[Jules]

Top to bottom this was a good show. I feel like Meltdown is starting to develop an identity as a brand with this group of fedders. The draft is inevitable, and the purpose of Meltdown, so we got to deal with that. Still a shame though. The onus is on those in this group that get drafted not to bury their hard work. If Jennings and Graham are on the same brand, I'd like that to continue. Sames goes for Knoxmare and NBK.

As for the show, part of the plan for Guv/Robina this week was to move the focus onto their match, rather than the needle with Sienna. I'm glad it's perceived that Guv has been weakened this week, that was the idea we wanted.

My spot of the week was Jennings being locked in his locker room. The scumbag, cowardly heel was what I always aimed for with Julius Farquhar--- nice to see someone take on the mantle and doing a better job.

I like the Jennings character, but there have been times of late when I've wondered about his true alignment. But like Kid said, maybe it was necessary to try and fit a square peg into a round hole in order to make the rivalry with Ellis Graham work. Wrestling psychology dictates someone has to be cheered, so kudos to Jennings for sacrificing a bit of his heel heat to help put over Graham.

The six-person was a good match. I liked the idea of Jennings being held back for the big entrance at end. I could point out one or two things, but really I won't because I know these six-person matches are difficult to write as summaries, and you did a good job selling the different dynamics in the match. That Jennings didn't get his hands on Ellis was good in terms of giving anything away before the SUPERSHOW, and giving at least one reason to tune in for that. (assuming that singles match is going to be booked).

Streetfight had a very WWE Attitude Era hardcore rules match feel to it. Not sure why, but I'm always a fan of spots where wrestlers get drenched in food and drink. Personally, I thought the finish buried Jace Savage a bit, but considering the purpose of the finish was to build NBK v Knox heat I can live with it.

This Red Scorpion dude made quite entrance. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't his pic base President Jeff's pro wrestling persona? Is it actually President Jeff?

Anyway, first of all I wondered what the hell was going on with these segments, but as a collective they told an entertaining story. My advice would be not to labour the Revolution Championship angle too much (we certainly don't want another Dark Match-esque thing going on), but in terms of buildings this character the segments were right on the money.

I really liked the M&M/Crying Cree-Sorry, Dying Breed (j/k fellas, love you, promise! Couldn't resist selling my favourite Ellis-ism). It was one of my favourite all-round segments of the time. I like this idea that everything comes to an end at Mayhem with a huge pay-off (literally huge given the consequences). AJP was the star of the whole thing, the character goes from strength to strength and I never thought a female heel could be so threatening, so despicable, and have serious genuine heat. It won't be long before she's more than just the brightest shining light of the tag team division.

I have to mention the great job Evan did with the NA recaps. Such a hard job all that copy and pasting! But seriously, it was a great overview for anyone uninitiated, building a picture of the titles own importance in APW.

Credit as always to match writers, Evan for his tremendous arrangement, all the RPers and everyone involved. I have to go to work, so I haven't got time to say anymore, so if I missed anyone sorry.

[Tommy Knox]

May 7, 2013 9:59:40 GMT -4 Jules said:

Top to bottom this was a good show. I feel like Meltdown is starting to develop an identity as a brand with this group of fedders. The draft is inevitable, and the purpose of Meltdown, so we got to deal with that. Still a shame though.

Does it have to be? Would be top notch as a stand alone then we'd have something for everyone needs as far as writing. A show for long rps, a bi-weekly show, a show to showcase tag teams, etc. it is what it is tho.

[Jake Titan]

Actually NBK has always been face. Thing of us as a mix of James Mitchell & The New Church with Cryme Tyme. Just Leon has more heelish tendencies with his character & role plays where as Jake is more face and comic relief with Leon being serious.

EDIT: I sincerely apologize if I buried Jace. That was NOT my goal or intention.

[warrenpeace]

It's been a heavy read, so much so I took pieces last night and am just now catching up. Like what I am seeing from Knox, Guv (as always), Robina, and the tag division.

Warren isn't gone forever. Lately I have had a lot of real life issues that kept me from writing the character as I wish to. I love this character and he deserves better treatment. So yes he is taking a break, but will be back eventually. I am not going anywhere as I have a filler character in the meantime.

Jules you kicked ass in that segment too man. I couldn't have imagined it any better. And when Peace does come back he gets to say he survived that.

I gave the tub to Sang Real because I see potential in them. I hope you run with the momentum and are still around when I decide to bring Peace back for revenge.

[Jason Cashe]

BURN from Callahan, petty attempt from Knoxville. Haha! We're suppose to be more friendly people and yet I took both of these as being funny. Lets hug and move on from this..I want to hug Callahan first because I feel "High Society" would have owned and it slipped from our hands quickly.

[Jace]

I'm alright with it. In the long run it served a purpose. At least I didn't tap lol. The card overall was good I thought, The segments seem to be getting longer and longer though. I like good segments don't do they really have to be longer then match rp's? Just my opinion. The segment with the North American title is understandable it's telling the history of the company. Again just my thoughts and opinions no disrespect to any who put in segments.

[Jason Cashe]

Props to Jace here for taking it to the chin and being good with it. Sometimes if the match serves a purpose then you should put them over if you yourself have nothing really going on as far as story goes. Hell it should give you more to work with in rps even, Jace with his Father. It fits and progresses you with that story. My suggestion is build on it and start building to introduce your own feud with someone. Great attitude Jace.

[Jace]

me and Sampson are feuding but decided o take a little break this week as we had our own agendas, but it's coming back around. In fact we have a match planned for the super show. I am already preparing my rp for next week. waiting on the card to get some more ideas. I have seen no comment on the Sampson and Carter Match. I think Sampson and Carter was a match but almost had the same feeling of just putting London over to me anyways. This is how some things go just got to roll with the punches lol.

Edit: no disrespect to Graham. I figure No writer for the match and the time he had plus writing it on his phone it looks to be just a quick write to put the match up.

["The Real Deal" Ellis Graham]

Hey, no disrespect taken, and as much as I would like to deflect criticism as "I wrote it on my phone in 10 minutes", I write most of my RPs on my phone since ApW is blocked at work.

I do appreciate the feedback. Summarized results are hard for me to write because when I have such a small sample size (ie a short match), then yeah, it looks like whichever guy wins does so in a squash. I WILL say don't let match length be a gauge of how close a match was. Match length is mostly about who's writing the match, how many (if any) special requests have been requested, and how big the match is to the promotion. Squash matches just don't happen here, and if you work hard, you'll get your opportunities.

[London Carter]

I've noticed some of the negative feedback I've received about my character and then my match wasn't even really talked about LOL ...but the show was good, I enjoyed reading and I see ppl put in good work here

[Jace]

for writing on your phone you do some pretty good work lol. I realize the match doesn't dictate how close it was. I'm looking forward to improving. Each lose just teaches me new things.

[chaos lite]

For the record, Carter, I love your work! It's a very different style than I'm used to so I was caught off guard in your debut- but this week I feel like I enjoyed it more because I knew what to expect. I'll be shocked if London isn't in the NA title picture a month from now. Maybe work with people on the show to collaborate on segments and get your character more exposure?

["The Real Deal" Ellis Graham]

The segments are key, London. They don't even have to be long or super-unique either, but it's a big part of exposure here.

I'd say just start with cutting a little backstage interview before your match at the Meltdown Super Show, and like AJP said, maybe work something with your opponent(s) to turn that match into a mini-feud.

Like I said on twitter, be proud of 2-0; that's NOT commonly how an APW rookie's career starts. And don't take heel tweeting personally, because its all in character, and if we're directing attention at you it's only because you've caught our attention, which is exactly what you want to do.

[Michael Jennings]

Just because your match wasn't talked about doesn't mean your character isn't noticed. Comments like that irk me. If you want to get noticed go out and make it happen through segs, storylines, and feuds. To me complaining about it on here in a feedback thread isn't the way to go about it in my opinion. You have to go out and make things happen on the shows like I said earlier. Create your own momentum so to speak.

[Jason Cashe]

Kick back London. You've had 2 matches and showed up for them. Flakes have done that, people like Tyler Graves has done that. Put in work man, you just rp and think folks is gonna drop and bow for you right off the bat. Not how shit works man. I was a little irked at your twitter comments and then seeing this I'm wondering if you'll stick around even if nobody praises you. Do segments, work storyline with someone other than yourself.

"If you're not Entertaining everyone, you've done something wrong"

Entertaining everyone means working with others not just putting down an rp or two and winning two matches. It's not a black thing or a gay thing, it's a wanting to see more before anyone hypes it as anything more than what it is which is a new talent coming onto the roster. Sucks if you see it as different but you seem a little worked on it and that's your wrong for feeling that way if so.

[Michael Jennings]

I was irked by the Twitter comments too. Seems like all you're wanting is attention and complaining because you're not getting it. Put in the work and you'll get the attention, bottom line.

[Evan De Parker]

I won't lie...

As a General Manager, I don't know how to push a character unless the handler is making an effort to submit segments, people! ;D Segments aren't EVERYTHING... They're just most of it.

Being a great RPer is fine and dandy, but no matter how many matches you win, it's the segments that get you pushed and noticed-- not the win/loss record.

[Sang Réal]

There is an accent over the "e". It's Sang Réal. Without the accent it changes the meaning and sound. It's not like dropping Jr in Rey and Chavo's name.

It's a pet peeve.

[chaos lite]

The concern with that in the past was, not everybody is sure how to create the é.

[Tommy Knox]

Yea. Not that I write matches, only have done one, but if I did yours and it had to be in there, I wouldn't do it. It will be ok, people here still can't get Niobe's and my team name right.

[Jules]

May 8, 2013 9:34:22 GMT -4 Sang Réal said:

There is an accent over the "e". It's Sang Réal. Without the accent it changes the meaning and sound. It's not like dropping Jr in Rey and Chavo's name.

It's a pet peeve.

And it's a pet peeve of mine that that's all you got to say about the whole show. Really?

Anyway, I wrote your match, so if that one thing offended you I apologise. But speaking as someone who handles a character's who's name is written wrong all the time, is it really that bad? I don't see how it changes very much about the match (if anything), everyone still knows its Sang Real. Are you going to call out this 'pet peeve' on anyone who no-sells the accent in an RP, a segment, or an OOC post?

By the way, I do know how to do that accent, but I don't have time on top of writing and coding a match to change every e to an é?

Sorry if this comes across as a bit snotty, actually I am probably being snotty, but it irks me that your only comment concerns a missing accent on one letter.

[Jason Cashe]

May 8, 2013 11:17:33 GMT -4 chaos lite said:

The concern with that in the past was, not everybody is sure how to create the é.

This^ I ended up copy/pasting the word and just adding it where it was needed. I understand that it changes things completely without it so I made due with copy/paste. But I don't think it's a great big deal. I've been called Jason Cash far too many times to worry about a single letter. Although it does annoy me at times. So either way.

[Tommy Knox]

Jason Cash