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Post by Jake Titan on May 7, 2013 2:40:45 GMT -4
Am I taking a step backwards? Because I've been unable to get rid of this losing streak. Are my role plays getting worst as I write them? Is there something I can do to get better? You can look at my profile and check out my role plays, they're all under "TITAN FOR HIRE" but if needed I can reedit this post to include the links. I'm just very curious now as to why I can't this monkey off my back.
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Post by warrenpeace on May 15, 2013 22:14:49 GMT -4
Losing streaks can happen. It's happens to the best of them and it happens to the rest of us too. I can think of a handful that I have experienced myself and i consider myself to be great at this game.
But it is a game and don't let get discouraged when suffering from losing streaks. Try and take a closer look at your matches and how they are being written, use that in your character development and it can add to your existing ideas for your rps.
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Post by Jason Cashe on May 15, 2013 22:43:00 GMT -4
Yeah man, dry spots don't mean you suck. It just means there is something missing that could elevate you into the spotlight. My advice is promote more. Through segments, through storyline. Get on twitter, get noticed a bit more for yourself and for NBK. It helps sometimes but with the writing, just sell more. Selling the match, the opponent as a challenge, ripping them apart even, mixing all it up like a salad and you get on a role. Try to find a "Purpose" for your character outside of liking violence or "TITAN FOR HIRE" those kind of characters usually have a mouth piece or has a short run. Give the character a driving force. Like with Kash, he's "Addicted To Action" it's his drug of choice now, the thing that motivates him. The bigger the challenge, the bigger the opponent and the better quality injection he fills his craving with.
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Post by Your JESUS on May 15, 2013 22:48:53 GMT -4
Ask people whose work you enjoy reading to look at your work and give you an idea. That's what I have done in the past when I couldn't get a handle on things.
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Post by Lord Raab on May 16, 2013 2:09:00 GMT -4
Have you seen the amount of losses I had since I've been here? It was only until Rasslemania that I've lost every single match and only recently won my first match on the Asylum brand and I've been on there since September.
OK I only won because of Kaylyn not showing which I understand with RL issues popping up but even I could use these ideas to help me too because I barely ever use what happened in Stefan's last match with my character in my RP's and I do need to sort Stefan's gimmick out.
Anyway my point is don't worry about losses so much and keep trying like I am. Even posting something on the news/rumours thread could help your character as well as doing segments which I need to do more of myself.
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Post by Jason Cashe on May 16, 2013 2:43:36 GMT -4
*See Johnny Knuckles. Now compare wins with Mr. Dangerous. Nuff said!
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Post by Jules on May 16, 2013 4:35:45 GMT -4
Since the win/loss records were taken off the roster pages I think this is a factor that has become even less relevant than before. Honestly, I don't even remember from one week to the next who won what matches. I remember segments, angles, and who is competing in title matches--- but that's it.
Titan, I wouldn't say you're doing much wrong bro. APW has always been super competitive, that goes even for Meltdown. What is important is that you have a character that people recognise and know what he's about; you're involved in a great three-way angle that involves some of APWs most respected workers, and it's a guarantee you will come out of that feud looking better and being more over than you would if you weren't involved and won every match.
I know this is a competitive game in some respects, and I losing can sometimes feel like an invalidation of your work. But it isn't. If a group of guys like Foul Play came to you and said 'let's work an angle' that is the biggest pat on the back you can get.
I'd much rather lose most matches and be involved in some great angles, rather than win most of the time and be involved in none. Just look at Chris Hart as an example. Like he said in his podcast, in a year he won TWO singles matches, but he had the honour of working with Level-One (who is no doubt top of every APWers bucket list), was involved in an Undisputed Title match, and got to work a six-month feud with the brilliant Kurt Noble. That's the definition of success in e-fedding terms.
Just keep doing what you're doing, that's working hard, promoting your character and your angles, being consistent with your RPs and involvement in shows--- that's the stuff Envi (and I'm sure he can confirm this) will look at when he's thinking about drafts.
But if you're looking to improve your writing qua writing, then Lively's advise is sound. Look at those RPers you like, identify what you like about them and compare it your own work--- is there something you could add to your work, learn from theirs?. I wouldn't outright imitate them, not only because people may frown upon it, but you have to be yourself. I could try to be a Michael Callahan or a Delikado and I know it wouldn't work, as much as I admire how they write.
The only thing I ever ask myself in e-fedding is:
Am I enjoying writing this character?
Am I enjoying working with the people I'm working with?
If the answer is yes to those questions, nothing else matters.
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Post by Jake Titan on May 17, 2013 13:10:51 GMT -4
Losing streaks can happen. It's happens to the best of them and it happens to the rest of us too. I can think of a handful that I have experienced myself and i consider myself to be great at this game. But it is a game and don't let get discouraged when suffering from losing streaks. Try and take a closer look at your matches and how they are being written, use that in your character development and it can add to your existing ideas for your rps. I had the same mentality with a four month losing streak. Then again the game was rigged there and I know that ain't the case here. Yeah man, dry spots don't mean you suck. It just means there is something missing that could elevate you into the spotlight. My advice is promote more. Through segments, through storyline. Get on twitter, get noticed a bit more for yourself and for NBK. It helps sometimes but with the writing, just sell more. Selling the match, the opponent as a challenge, ripping them apart even, mixing all it up like a salad and you get on a role. Try to find a "Purpose" for your character outside of liking violence or "TITAN FOR HIRE" those kind of characters usually have a mouth piece or has a short run. Give the character a driving force. Like with Kash, he's "Addicted To Action" it's his drug of choice now, the thing that motivates him. The bigger the challenge, the bigger the opponent and the better quality injection he fills his craving with. I've never bought into that. When I first started the game, the show & skits were ALWAYS done by owner and/or his writing staff. It was always the better man wins not influenced by who helped us the most. But I'm not good at trash talking. What can I say? From reading other peoples role plays, I put as much advertising in as anyone else that I read. I'm just not good at trash talking. I don't know how to get better. Titan For Hire's are about Jake being used by Leon Roberts to pay off a massive debt to his father or my take on something. It's not like I'm going to run out of ideas, as long as there are games, movies and books I'll have ideas on how to make a play on those. Crown: You do have a really good point there, thanks. |
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Post by warrenpeace on May 17, 2013 19:02:48 GMT -4
Yeah man, dry spots don't mean you suck. It just means there is something missing that could elevate you into the spotlight. My advice is promote more. Through segments, through storyline. Get on twitter, get noticed a bit more for yourself and for NBK. It helps sometimes but with the writing, just sell more. Selling the match, the opponent as a challenge, ripping them apart even, mixing all it up like a salad and you get on a role. Try to find a "Purpose" for your character outside of liking violence or "TITAN FOR HIRE" those kind of characters usually have a mouth piece or has a short run. Give the character a driving force. Like with Kash, he's "Addicted To Action" it's his drug of choice now, the thing that motivates him. The bigger the challenge, the bigger the opponent and the better quality injection he fills his craving with. I've never bought into that. When I first started the game, the show & skits were ALWAYS done by owner and/or his writing staff. It was always the better man wins not influenced by who helped us the most. [/quote] The better rp wins here too, it's just that those who participate and go the extra mile, take initiative and get involved are clearly the ones you wanna focus on. This is double edged sword IMO as there are people who aren't mercenaries who do as much as they can, but still don't have the time to write extra stuff. I am one of them. I get what I can done. Sometimes I don't do segments sometimes I do. if you're floundering take initiate and ask around someone will be willing to feud with ya. I put sang real over after one rp cause of the design of his characters. just do your best to have fun, and not to win because this is about fun. no title that you ever win in this or any efed will mean anything to you IRL, but having fun certainly does. |
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Post by Jake Titan on May 18, 2013 12:44:12 GMT -4
I'm not saying theirs rigging and apologize if that's what I insinuated. I just have a difficulty trash talking I guess or maybe my stories lack something. I ain't sure, although I decided that I'm dropping the ghetto talk. Might make it way easier to read and understand.
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Post by C.J. Gates on May 18, 2013 13:14:30 GMT -4
I haven't read many, if any, of your RPs (Might have read one prior to Rasslemania) but I'll try and share some wisdom just from what's been said here.
The number one goal is to have fun. Bottom line. As long as you're having fun while writing your RPs, that's all that should really matter. Though, obviously, losses aren't always added into that fun. Trust me. I went through a bit of a so-called "dry spell" last year where it seemed like no matter what I did, no matter what tweaks I made to my writing, I always seemed to lose matches. However, at the end of it, I realized that as long as I liked my writing, and was having fun with the storylines, then the fact that I was losing didn't really bother me all that much. Hell, I used the losing skid for inspiration and it allowed me to kind of try a few things with Gates that I might not of.
The fact that you say you're not as good at trash talking, it's not necessarily a bad thing. It might just be one of those things to work on. Trash talking is an important part here, but it's not the only thing they look at. And if you keep plugging away at it, I'm sure that you'll eventually hit a point where you are able to talk trash with the best of them.
Get yourself into some storylines. I don't know if you've got a good one cooking right now (really need to diversify myself brand wise here) but I always find that if I'm involved in a good feud/story, the trash talking might come easier because you have more to work off. Sometimes it's hard at first because you don't know a lot about the characters your facing and, for faces especially, it can be tough to avoid going into the whole "you're shit, your mom's a whore and you eat garbage for lunch" type diatribe.
I don't even know if this helps or anything...I guess to sum it up, just have fun. If you're having fun and writing what you want (maybe continuing to better your trash talk) everything else should fall into place.
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Post by Jake Titan on May 18, 2013 17:23:57 GMT -4
No that actually does help, a lot. It's helping me with the shit talking part of my PPV Role Play. Can NOT say shit about my Meltdown Role play, oh yeah I knwo what i can say: WHY IS IT DUE A DAY FUCKING LATER?! Hate double bookings, well I better learn how to do a barrel roll, PDQ
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Post by Jake Titan on May 19, 2013 13:16:55 GMT -4
Well I'm way done with my barrel roll, working on my Meltdown RP. How did I do for my PPV RP? TItan for Hire: Breaking Benjamin
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Post by Tommy Knox on May 19, 2013 16:51:17 GMT -4
There was 2 weeks to get these rps done. But I think you're doin fine, bro. I enjoy reading your rps. The character is crazy and not afraid to speak his mind.
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Post by Jake Titan on May 19, 2013 19:24:06 GMT -4
Yeah... I don't get my moments of genious often.
However, I've been trying to take more after New Jack who'll just run off at the mouth and say things he JUST shouldn't say. I mean MY CHARACTER STOLE MY PARTNER'S WIFE SHOE AND SNIFFED IT LIKE IT WAS A DRUG. I STOLE MY PARTNER'S LAP TOP... among other things.
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Post by Tommy Knox on May 21, 2013 10:41:09 GMT -4
And you stole his blow once to cook a rock with. Jake seems like the type of guy I could sell bread crumbs mixed with some soap to. Even add some Finishing touches, Ora-gel for the numbness.
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Post by Jake Titan on May 22, 2013 2:10:26 GMT -4
Of course, if it's a drug: Jake'll do it because it'll get him high. Not that my whole gimmick is about doing drugs. I just find it funny that he does some of the thigns he does or says it. I'm trying to be a little bit more like New Jack.
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