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Post by "Supersonic" Branden Harvey on Jun 29, 2013 3:05:29 GMT -4
Well, fuck. We're out two town.
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Post by Gordon Fury on Jun 29, 2013 3:17:50 GMT -4
Hey peeps, someone is not very happy I'm still here, but I am lol. I copped Callahan last night, but just like when I copped Atkin, I got redirected, this time to Jules, who came up town.
Now I did not get redirected the first night when I hit Stone, but after I revealed myself, 2 nights in a row I have been redirected. That's all I know for certain at this point
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Post by Matt Stone on Jun 29, 2013 3:30:26 GMT -4
FOS Victor Hades
He replaced Rebel, not Brian (who was confirmed town). Rebel wasn't very active and now that he's replaced, the werewolf comes out. On top of that, Hades liked Havok's post but did not say anything. We know there isn't a silencer in the game (thanks to Gooch). This looks like the best lead we have.
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Post by Jules on Jun 29, 2013 4:25:31 GMT -4
Yeah shitty night all round, although we got a reveal on Rudy's role.
Thanks for the clear Fury. As for the redirects, you can hardly be surprised someone is interfering with your role when you out yourself after night 1. Anyway, we can assume now Fury is at least sane, which means he read on Stone as third party could be right. Could Stone's mason group be the Rudys and he's the werewolve? FOS: Stone Jumping the new guy on something so wafer thin doesn't sit right with me either.
Fury, how certain are you still of that read? Btw, who did you redirect to on night 2, and what was the result?
I'm waiting on confirmation from Level-One about something, when I get it I will have more to say.
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Post by Jules on Jun 29, 2013 4:26:42 GMT -4
EBWOP
Forgot to add: Raab, are you there? Are you being fed intel like Gooch was before he left town?
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Post by Gordon Fury on Jun 29, 2013 4:44:28 GMT -4
Yeah shitty night all round, although we got a reveal on Rudy's role. Thanks for the clear Fury. As for the redirects, you can hardly be surprised someone is interfering with your role when you out yourself after night 1. Anyway, we can assume now Fury is at least sane, which means he read on Stone as third party could be right. Could Stone's mason group be the Rudys and he's the werewolve? FOS: Stone Jumping the new guy on something so wafer thin doesn't sit right with me either. Fury, how certain are you still of that read? Btw, who did you redirect to on night 2, and what was the result? I'm waiting on confirmation from Level-One about something, when I get it I will have more to say. I got redirected to reaver/knucks on night 2, and he came up town. The info I was given on night one is WAY too specific to be wrong, I am still 100% sure Stone is third party, but according the colour coding, he is not a rudy, he is a horseman.
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Post by Lord Raab on Jun 29, 2013 5:57:17 GMT -4
Yeah I didn't say anything in last day because I was too late to get my thoughts in and plus I needed time to read back on everything that's been happening seeing how bad of a mafia player I am.
OK even though this guy is dead Atken made some really weird comments that didn't apply to this game but that's over now and Gooch certainly made a hell a lot of helpful information and playing quite aggressively as he had stated. What I can tell you is Gooch sounds like he's telling the truth of the role he had.
Looks like the kill failed on the third party end side of things according to the write up and Victor Hades liking something certainly is suspicious as is the FOS post from Stone.
All I can say from what I found out last night that Gordon Fury is town but I think everybody knew that already but I double checked to see if he was.
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Post by Victor Hades on Jun 29, 2013 9:04:44 GMT -4
I'm just a terrible player, but I'm trying to keep up with what just happened. Fury I believe is town and my gut instinct agrees. Even though the re-directs were a little suspicious. Which freaked me out. Stone on the other hand though...
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Post by Pepsi on Jun 29, 2013 9:18:47 GMT -4
I have to agree about the FOS on Stone. fury has cleared several people as town which seems credible, why would he get a 3rd party read on Stone if it wasn't true. For now it's the best we have. I would like to see a few more check ins before I put a vote out there maybe someone has some info that will be more helpful. If not, I believe Stone would be the safest lynch.
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Post by A.C. Smith on Jun 29, 2013 9:59:26 GMT -4
The only thing I was able to glean from the previous day phase was a REALLY eery vibe from Callahan. It looked like he was getting ready to adopt the, "EVERYONE WHO THINKS I'M SCUM IS SCUM!," line of reasoning when Stone pointed out Rufio couldn't be Lola, which is sometimes a scum tell in and of itself. It's not enough for a vote, and it may not even be enough for a FOS, but it's interesting.
I'm in agreement with Pepsi that I'd like to see several others check in before we start debating votes, but for now, that's what stuck out to me.
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Post by Reaver on Jun 29, 2013 10:33:45 GMT -4
FOS Victor HadesHe replaced Rebel, not Brian (who was confirmed town). Rebel wasn't very active and now that he's replaced, the werewolf comes out. On top of that, Hades liked Havok's post but did not say anything. We know there isn't a silencer in the game (thanks to Gooch). This looks like the best lead we have. does anybody else see this as suspicious? victor is a replacement and just joining the game so u expect him to be up to par to this point? GTFO! with everything going on i think this is our safest lynch of the day. vote: Stonei honestly think we need to go back and see who jennings was trying to help push to lynch cuz he was the watcher and it would help to see wat he saw at nite b4 he got capped.
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Post by T-Marv on Jun 29, 2013 11:47:57 GMT -4
Vote: Callahan
Reason: A little birdie told me. Literally.
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Post by Nathaniel Havok on Jun 29, 2013 12:29:29 GMT -4
Since T-Marv is practically guaranteeing this will happen (I'm getting a very confident feel from his lack of explanation/lack of maybe-ness)...
Vote: Callahan
Lets just do it. If he comes back town, we'll look at Terry. Although, from a few things I've picked up, I'm almost certain that Terry is town, and I've thought that since the beginning of day 2.
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Post by Victor Hades on Jun 29, 2013 13:13:38 GMT -4
Went back and re-read the details I was confused on. Definitely going with my gut on what was previously mentioned. Vote: Stone
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Post by Speede on Jun 29, 2013 16:10:17 GMT -4
Checking in, and the reasoning behind T-Marv's vote confuses me. I don't honestly find Stone's post enough for a vote, but There is something I'm not getting from T-Marv's explanation there.
No, actually, no that I think about it, I remember Rebel asking for replacement, but Hollywood going MIA. Makes sense and Stone jumping on Hades for it is a big no-no. fos: stone
Want to hear what else people have to say before I make a vote, although stone is right now my safest lynch. I'll go for a Callahan lynch, but I'm confused by the reasoning behind it on Marv's part. Targeting him would be a gut thing from me, and playing by gut instinct usually don't work out well for me.
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Post by "Supersonic" Branden Harvey on Jun 29, 2013 16:42:11 GMT -4
I'll go with Marv. Vote: Callahan
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Post by Pepsi on Jun 29, 2013 16:49:34 GMT -4
Checking in, and the reasoning behind T-Marv's vote confuses me. I don't honestly find Stone's post enough for a vote, but There is something I'm not getting from T-Marv's explanation there. No, actually, no that I think about it, I remember Rebel asking for replacement, but Hollywood going MIA. Makes sense and Stone jumping on Hades for it is a big no-no. fos: stoneWant to hear what else people have to say before I make a vote, although stone is right now my safest lynch. I'll go for a Callahan lynch, but I'm confused by the reasoning behind it on Marv's part. Targeting him would be a gut thing from me, and playing by gut instinct usually don't work out well for me. I think it's Marv trying not to give too much detail in order to not out his role whatever it may be. He is way too experienced to make a guarantee like that without cause. He would know well what the ramifications of his words could be. Vote: Callahan
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Post by A.C. Smith on Jun 29, 2013 18:30:49 GMT -4
T-Marv, you'd better be right.
VOTE: Callahan
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Post by Matt Stone on Jun 29, 2013 19:22:51 GMT -4
My FOS on Hades was based on him liking a new post (meaning he clearly read it) and not posting anything at all. Screamed lurker to me. Rebel was also one of the few people at this point not to role hint/claim so far in this game. Thought it was worth bringing forward to the town. For now, I'll roll with Terry.
Vote: Callahan
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Post by Nathaniel Havok on Jun 29, 2013 20:11:26 GMT -4
The more I sit back and form opinions, the more it makes sense. I'm going to follow majority and then we can follow Terry. I have reason to believe that he's town, so I would like to see where his "lead"... Leads
Unote
Vote: Stone
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Post by Speede on Jun 29, 2013 22:56:07 GMT -4
Alright, Pepsi, I guess I'll go with you guys, but if Callahan comes back town, I'm looking at you as we'll as Marv.
vote: Callahan
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Post by Gordon Fury on Jun 29, 2013 23:07:48 GMT -4
At this stage, I'm willing to trust T-Marv.
Vote: Callahan
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Post by Nathaniel Havok on Jun 29, 2013 23:29:24 GMT -4
My last post needs some explaining. I had written it on my iPad and thought that I hit "send". When I noticed I never did, everybody had already started voting with terry again. Therefore, to at least TRY and get something going for the town...
Unvote
Vote: Callahan
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Post by Reaver on Jun 30, 2013 1:37:57 GMT -4
Checking in, and the reasoning behind T-Marv's vote confuses me. I don't honestly find Stone's post enough for a vote, but There is something I'm not getting from T-Marv's explanation there. No, actually, no that I think about it, I remember Rebel asking for replacement, but Hollywood going MIA. Makes sense and Stone jumping on Hades for it is a big no-no. fos: stoneWant to hear what else people have to say before I make a vote, although stone is right now my safest lynch. I'll go for a Callahan lynch, but I'm confused by the reasoning behind it on Marv's part. Targeting him would be a gut thing from me, and playing by gut instinct usually don't work out well for me. I think it's Marv trying not to give too much detail in order to not out his role whatever it may be. He is way too experienced to make a guarantee like that without cause. He would know well what the ramifications of his words could be. Vote: Callahanall the more reason to save it for now. i still dont trust terry at this point as he is NOT proven to be town just yet and no explanation of his info. he IS a very skilled mafia player and that is exactly WHY i dont trust him. day 3/4 and he's still alive? he would have been one of my first targets if i were scum wouldnt u agree? he is not somebody i would want against me so i would have taken him out early. so unless the scum/third party r highly unskilled or just new, i have no reason to trust him just yet.......my vote stays on the guaranteed lynch in stone.
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Post by Speede on Jun 30, 2013 2:07:40 GMT -4
I think it's Marv trying not to give too much detail in order to not out his role whatever it may be. He is way too experienced to make a guarantee like that without cause. He would know well what the ramifications of his words could be. Vote: Callahanall the more reason to save it for now. i still dont trust terry at this point as he is NOT proven to be town just yet and no explanation of his info. he IS a very skilled mafia player and that is exactly WHY i dont trust him. day 3/4 and he's still alive? he would have been one of my first targets if i were scum wouldnt u agree? he is not somebody i would want against me so i would have taken him out early. so unless the scum/third party r highly unskilled or just new, i have no reason to trust him just yet.......my vote stays on the guaranteed lynch in stone. See, this is exactly why I'm willing to vote with Marv, bro. Looking at the list of 14 players, I see a bunch of beginner/unfamiliar names down. I think this is Fury's first or second game with us, Raab doesn't have much experience, Rufio (Harvey) has an award for bad play named after him, Hades has checked in for Rebel, who was pretty much flying under the radar, havok has a habit of foot-in-mouth play and is trying to be more careful this round, and you're... Well, you. With Gooch giving us shit tons of info and then proofing to be replaced, I don't consider all that info to be fact, and he could easily have made up stuff like that. Pepsi's much quieter than normal too, and im surprised by the silence from Kaylyn this day, so if theres a silencer i think she got hit. don't forget that targeting Tmarv early is a typical APW mafia move. It could easily be a way of avoiding targeting him at the beginning of the game, making the scum team look inexperienced or look as if Marv is a part of it as a way of concealing an all-star scum team, perhaps With Callahan at the helm. I'm going to go with Marv's info, and if it comes back wrong, we all know to hit Marv next day phase... And one way or another, as of Fury's vote that's eight, with havok making nine...
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Post by Matt Stone on Jun 30, 2013 2:07:40 GMT -4
I think it's Marv trying not to give too much detail in order to not out his role whatever it may be. He is way too experienced to make a guarantee like that without cause. He would know well what the ramifications of his words could be. Vote: Callahanall the more reason to save it for now. i still dont trust terry at this point as he is NOT proven to be town just yet and no explanation of his info. he IS a very skilled mafia player and that is exactly WHY i dont trust him. day 3/4 and he's still alive? he would have been one of my first targets if i were scum wouldnt u agree? he is not somebody i would want against me so i would have taken him out early. so unless the scum/third party r highly unskilled or just new, i have no reason to trust him just yet.......my vote stays on the guaranteed lynch in stone. ...except KJE cleared me night 1 as doing nothing during the night phase and Gooch, who had all the roles and character names, said there was someone who would read as 3rd party but is actually town. You did read that, right? Also, I'm of the theory that Lola is the only mafia role and that's why she kills by proxy. So if the one person didn't know how good Terry was, they would have no reason to go after him. Saying you don't want Terry against you and then calling him a liar though nets you bonus points for laughter
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Post by Reaver on Jun 30, 2013 2:22:17 GMT -4
except NOBODY cleared KJE yet. so her "clearing u" doesnt mean anything and if im not mistaken, fury IS cleared and he got info on u for third party.
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Post by Matt Stone on Jun 30, 2013 2:28:43 GMT -4
You are mistaken. No one cleared Fury, he's the one clearing people.
KJE claimed tracker day 2 and no one CC'd her. That's about as clear as we can get on someone.
I think Fury is town, for sure, but I'm starting to think you haven't been reading the thread at all LOL
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Post by Reaver on Jun 30, 2013 2:48:24 GMT -4
shes also been suspicious as of late and knowing her and how well she plays as town, shes probably scum. shes made it clear that we would KNOW the difference and this seems different but since i have no proof i wont dwell. again, ur trying awfully hard to convince me that ur not scum or third party when every vanilla townie has been killed off alrdy. so tell us again wat u can do? cuz uve also done nothing to find scum which leads me to believe otherwise.
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Post by Matt Stone on Jun 30, 2013 2:58:43 GMT -4
You went from saying you had no role yet (that was the key) and now the Serial Killer Werewolf is alive. You came after me in Mario as third party and looks like you could be doing it again. Or have you figured out your "mystery role" yet?
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