Pepsi
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Post by Pepsi on Jul 3, 2013 18:04:46 GMT -4
EBWOP
I also still agree with the FOS on Stone, he has been sketchy this whole game.
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Post by Lord Raab on Jul 3, 2013 18:10:17 GMT -4
Wasn't it reported earlier in the game from Gooch that there's no silencer in this game or did I misread something there? I didn't use my night action last night so I have no info to give this time around.
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Post by Victor Hades on Jul 3, 2013 18:40:17 GMT -4
I have to agree with Stone after going through the last two days. PGOs definitely don't visit and well, I'm starting to feel more and more based on actions Havok is actually Lola...I dont know about Evil Rudy just yet. That and with the "information" we keep getting, it seems more like more of us are being killed off than it doing us some good. So I'm kind of needing something more solid about birdies if we're gonna trust hints for the time being. FOS: TerryWe also need to identify some Horseman, so I'm almost leaning towards Havok with these leads. What do you do? At this point, we need to hear everything and you're still near the top of my list and this whole "Terry and/or Havok" line isn't helping. I can confirm Raab/Gooch isn't a PGO, Kaylyn targetted Speede so Speede isn't the PGO and Terry confirms Smith can visit. So by my count, the PGO is eiher you, Pepsi or Ron. I was also under the impression that there wasn't a doctor in this game, based on Gooch's play Day 2. He was 100% sure a roleblock stopped the kill, which lead me to believe there was no doc. I could be wrong, but that's how I read it. Well from all the feedback I keep getting I'm delusional, but not quite. I mean we go back the past couple days and I've pointed out every hint I felt was a horseman. So far we haven't got a single one, but any time I've voted we already have votes against someone else. I dont quite see how that makes me PGO, not to mention I've remained active. While Ron, as you mentioned hasnt even made much of a debate, voted, or come forward with info as of late. That stinks of suspicion to me. Havok has been on the defense but he targeted himself once, and we havent looked into that. Sorry just trying to be helpful and point out the bigger picture if that makes sense. I'm going with my gut once again. Vote: Ron |
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Post by Lord Raab on Jul 3, 2013 18:46:09 GMT -4
Sorry to ask a stupid question but what's a PGO?
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Post by Gordon Fury on Jul 3, 2013 18:48:06 GMT -4
Gordon... Are you high, or just not paying attention? You're not silenced, you're not roleblocked, and you're not dead. KJE confirmed what I said, I targeted you last night. Therefore, if I were scum, you'd either be dead, roleblocked, or not able to talk. Therefore, your vote makes absolutely no sense. Seems to me like YOU are the one not paying attention. 1. Yes I WAS roleblocked, Jules blocked me by accident, he straight up admitted it. And 2, which is the big point, is that Lola kills by proxy. This has been made perfectly clear by this point, so you visiting me last night just means you chose me to make the kill for you. Nice try. |
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Post by Victor Hades on Jul 3, 2013 19:05:14 GMT -4
PGO=Paranoid Gun Owner passively (and involuntarily) kills anyone who targets it during the Night.
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Post by "Supersonic" Branden Harvey on Jul 3, 2013 19:10:09 GMT -4
The only info I got last night, which I don't know is true or not, is that either Raab or Reaver is scum.
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Post by KJE on Jul 3, 2013 19:18:13 GMT -4
Well reaver is dead and is town so...
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Post by A.C. Smith on Jul 3, 2013 19:30:44 GMT -4
Gordon... Are you high, or just not paying attention? You're not silenced, you're not roleblocked, and you're not dead. KJE confirmed what I said, I targeted you last night. Therefore, if I were scum, you'd either be dead, roleblocked, or not able to talk. Therefore, your vote makes absolutely no sense. Seems to me like YOU are the one not paying attention. 1. Yes I WAS roleblocked, Jules blocked me by accident, he straight up admitted it. And 2, which is the big point, is that Lola kills by proxy. This has been made perfectly clear by this point, so you visiting me last night just means you chose me to make the kill for you. Nice try. This back-and-forth is very, very quizzical to me. We know Fury is town, and we've known that for some time. Havok has said he's trying to play a different game, but by going at a known townie in his attempt to defend himself, he's putting his foot in his mouth. FOS: Havok |
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Post by Matt Stone on Jul 3, 2013 19:33:13 GMT -4
Sorry to ask a stupid question but what's a PGO? Do you not have the same info Gooch had? Also, to Hades, PGO is the good thing I'm looking for: FOS HadesBeing defensive about a town role REALLY seems sus to me. |
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Post by Victor Hades on Jul 3, 2013 19:38:23 GMT -4
Understandable, everyone is getting touchy-feely. haha.
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Post by Gordon Fury on Jul 3, 2013 19:40:48 GMT -4
Sorry to ask a stupid question but what's a PGO? PGO is paranoid gun owner, Raab. If ANYONE targets them, they die. Ok now I have a explanation on Terry's actions, but I didn't want to say it because Terry is not a threat at this point, but unless people get answers, they arent gonna vote for the people who NEED to be voted for. Terry isn't dumb, he knew that if Callahan flipped town, that the heat would be on him, so why did he make a claim like that? Because he wanted to lynch someone he suspected of being one of the 2 killers, so he took the heat off of someone he knew WASNT a killer. Stone. Terry is a horseman ladies and gents, I'm almost certain of it, but keep this in mind: The Horsemen are NOT our primary concern. Terry made that play because the Horsemen don't have a kill of their own, so they need the lynch to kill scum. That is why, besides my own suspicions, I believe Stone on his call of Havok being Lola, because they would have information coming out of the arsehole, I also reckon they are responsible for my redirects. The important thing today is to nail a KILLER if we want to get this game back under control, and Havok is one of them. Come tomorrow we can work things through, but for right now, this is the best play. You know I am town, and I am asking you all to trust me. |
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Post by Nathaniel Havok on Jul 3, 2013 19:49:49 GMT -4
The important thing today is to nail a KILLER if we want to get this game back under control, and Havok is one of them.Do me a favor, Fury... This is a very bold statement. You KNOW FOR SURE I'm one of them? Cool, news to me. Tell me, please... You know 100% sure that I'm one of them. Say it just like that, for me. Say "I KNOW Havok is one of them.". Say it, so when I turn up town, I can get nothing but pure enjoyment out of dying. |
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Post by Gordon Fury on Jul 3, 2013 20:04:48 GMT -4
Do me a favor, Fury... This is a very bold statement. You KNOW FOR SURE I'm one of them? Cool, news to me. Tell me, please... You know 100% sure that I'm one of them. Say it just like that, for me. Say "I KNOW Havok is one of them.". Say it, so when I turn up town, I can get nothing but pure enjoyment out of dying. LOL I had 2 entire posts you for you to work with, and the only thing you try to pick me apart on are those 6 words? Yeh good job. If you have any evidence to prove me wrong, go for it buddy. I am happy to be proven wrong. |
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Post by Nathaniel Havok on Jul 3, 2013 20:49:01 GMT -4
No, seriously. You sounded so confident. PLEASE... Say that you 100% know, as you implied...
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Post by Matt Stone on Jul 3, 2013 20:59:37 GMT -4
EBWOP I also still agree with the FOS on Stone, he has been sketchy this whole game. Care to elaborate? Perhaps you could include what you've done for the town. We know you're not vanilla, those guys are already gone, so what do you do? |
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Post by Speede on Jul 3, 2013 21:51:03 GMT -4
Checking in, and I can honestly say I'm surprised T-Marv's info was wrong, and with that... fos: pepsi he was the one who backed t-Marv's info like crazy, and now that the lynch came back town, I want to hear why he was bandwagoning like crazy yesterday- first, agreeing with the fos on stone, then the lynch on Callahan, and literally has been lying low otherwise the last couple days. He bandwagoned after Smith and Jules, citing it as agreeing with them day 3 (page 12), then jumped up and said he agreed with Jules' fos on stone day 4 before getting incredibly adamant about a lynch on lynching Callahan day 4 even to the point of arguing in favor of it when I was skeptical. Really, how on Earth did I band wagon like crazy. I simply voted for Callahan as many others did and stated my reason for voting. Allow me to present the one and only post I made on the topic... I think it's Marv trying not to give too much detail in order to not out his role whatever it may be. He is way too experienced to make a guarantee like that without cause. He would know well what the ramifications of his words could be. Vote: CallahanThat was it! How can you consider that backing his info like crazy. I was basically saying if Marv is wrong he will be a target, which he kind of is right now. Please explain how that 1 post that you are grossly over exaggerating merits me an FOS. To put it quite simply, I was skeptical of the lynch, and you were right there firing with "Marv knows what he's doing! I trust him on this lynch." Paraphrased, of course, but you were the second strongest believer in the lynch behind Marv himself, or so I feel, and it just looks pretty suspicious to me. And to follow up. Immediately after that you follow up with, for the third straight day doing something to the sort, "I agree with the FOS". Sounds like you're bandwagoning on and agreeing with anything substantial anyone has said, valid or not. |
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Post by Pepsi on Jul 3, 2013 23:41:37 GMT -4
Speede, your read about my confidence in the lynch is inaccurate. My point was that Marv should have known that heat would come own on him and therefore would not give false info without confidence that it was accurate. That is exactly what happened. I was not the only one to jump in on the lynch and I actually gave a logical reason why I was agreeing with it.
As for my suspicions of Stone, that started early in the game when Fury said he was third party. I have not seen any counter claims on Fury being cop and therefore trust that info. Knowing there is a third party threat and the only person to claim cop identified Fury as 3rd party makes me suspicious. The only thing holding me back now is not knowing how much to trust Fury.
P.S. I will not respond to Stone's blatant role fishing. I won't be outing my role. Nice try though.
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Post by Matt Stone on Jul 4, 2013 0:09:54 GMT -4
The RB'er, the Doc, a Mortician are all role claiming, you are not.
Assumming Havok is telling the truth...
unvote
vote Pepsi
We can RB Havok and see if there's no kill, but Pepsi is far too suspect not to be maf/SK
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Post by Nathaniel Havok on Jul 4, 2013 2:24:52 GMT -4
Role locking me would only leave the town open and vulnerable. And who's to say they won't miss the kill on purpose to mess with the town? But do what you must. If it proves my innocence, I'm down.
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Post by Nathaniel Havok on Jul 4, 2013 2:26:00 GMT -4
Role locking me would only leave the town open and vulnerable. And who's to say they won't miss the kill on purpose to mess with the town? But do what you must. If it proves my innocence, I'm down. Ebwop If needed... Role blocking* |
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Post by Pepsi on Jul 4, 2013 3:19:56 GMT -4
Stone, so far in this day phase you have voted for Havok and claimed you are 95% positive he is Rudy or Lola, you have pretty much demanded a role claim from both Hades and I, and voted for me all because I refuse to play this game your way. 2 votes, and 2 blatant role fishes and you say that I am far too suspicious.
Vote: Stone
I was on the fence, but your play is far too brash and erratic to ignore.
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Post by Matt Stone on Jul 4, 2013 3:28:57 GMT -4
Stone, so far in this day phase you have voted for Havok and claimed you are 95% positive he is Rudy or Lola, you have pretty much demanded a role claim from both Hades and I, and voted for me all because I refuse to play this game your way. 2 votes, and 2 blatant role fishes and you say that I am far too suspicious. Vote: StoneI was on the fence, but your play is far too brash and erratic to ignore. lol, OMGUS Now I'm 100% sure of you. Jules was the one saying it was time to out info, I role claimed and dumped info that led to Havok bringing out his. Am I sure he's telling the truth? No, but he's helping more than you are. I'm not claiming to be right 100% of the time, but I am claiming to be right this time. If Pancho were here, he would say "Papa spank" |
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Post by Jules on Jul 4, 2013 5:22:05 GMT -4
Pepsi is stalling. I'm not sure interpret his voting before today as bandwagoning, but he's definitely stalling now. There's been a lot of suspect play today and at the moment I could lay a vote on any one of three or four people, but I'm leaning towards Pepsi because it strikes me he's trying to stonewall.
vote: Pepsi
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Post by A.C. Smith on Jul 4, 2013 10:54:13 GMT -4
I'm still very suspicious of Havok. All the people to go after, and you go after the cop? Much like with Starr, at best, that's bad play, and at worst, it's scum looking for a lynch on a power role from a panicky town.
The stuff about Pepsi, though, is interesting. I picked up a "bandwagoning" vibe as well over the past few day phases, and while I won't jump down his throat for him refusing to out his role, there's certainly cause for the attention that's being thrown his way.
I think both lynches are good ones, but Havok has at least brought SOMETHING to the table other than stall tactics. While I'm still keeping an eye on him, and while I think it's worth looking into him during the next day phase...
VOTE: Pepsi
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Post by Nathaniel Havok on Jul 4, 2013 12:10:14 GMT -4
I've given every hint to tell you who I am. With that being said, 1 of 2 things will happen here. 1, Pepsi comes back scum and we get a small victory. Or 2, he comes back town, Stone somehow still slips by, and I'm next in the lynch line. Guess I'll put my faith in stone.
Vote: Pepsi
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Post by KJE on Jul 4, 2013 15:55:52 GMT -4
On my phone ao if this wont bold, sorry.
Vote:Pepsi
Im currentlu hospitalized, so my replies will b few.
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Post by "Supersonic" Branden Harvey on Jul 4, 2013 18:01:26 GMT -4
Vote: Pepsi
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Post by Pepsi on Jul 4, 2013 18:08:03 GMT -4
Honestly, I can't believe there are so many going along with this lynch. The "evidence" against me is really light, and so many people are hopping on board saying that I'm bandwagoning. Every time I play this game I always vote for the best bet lynch. I have always hated no lynch days, maybe it's a flaw in my play (this is only like the 5th mafia game I have played here or anywhere else). All I know is that if you were to look back at games I have played in the past you would see that this is the same way I play everytime.
It's amazing to me how Stone keeps slipping by. He was pointed out as 3rd party by the only person to claim cop, yet still every day phase people say I suspect Stone, and proceed to do nothing about it. Up until now I myself was guilty of doing this same thing. Why do we keep ignoring the cop for all these mislynches. How many town players do we have to lynch untile we finally get it right.
If supposed bandwagoning makes someone scum, then maybe you should look at all the people jumping aboard this one.
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Post by A.C. Smith on Jul 4, 2013 18:08:25 GMT -4
Is that 6 or 7? Can we get a vote count, please?
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