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Post by Phil Atken on Jun 19, 2013 11:38:30 GMT -4
Well I got completely ignored, but at least the right vote was made regardless. I implore people to not ignore me and write my information off as wrong. If Stone flips town, then lynch me to death tomorrow. I don't know how many other ways I can say I am sure of this. There's a difference between you being right and you believing you're right Lie detect line: I am a town mason No idea how a cop got mason, but I would advise you to go back and make sure it wasn't saying I'm in a 3 person mason group. But surely your mason group knows one of them ain't town. Now that'd I'd want them to out themselves right now. Also less all knowing Stone, more that I thought APW handlers had moved on beyond that phase OOC, no matter your hilarious way of deflecting it but that's not about the game so I'ma drop it.
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Post by Matt Stone on Jun 19, 2013 11:39:56 GMT -4
What are you going on about? xD
Neither Gordon nor I are APW handlers.
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Post by Buckson Gooch on Jun 19, 2013 11:41:01 GMT -4
I've played with Rowyn Starr over in ViW. ViW doesn't use the QT brackets, it uses the proboard style of coding.
Honest mistake or not, that's not excuse to post that and then leave the boards completely.
Rowyn Starr
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Post by Buckson Gooch on Jun 19, 2013 11:41:22 GMT -4
EWBOP
Vote: Rowyn Starr
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Post by Phil Atken on Jun 19, 2013 11:42:53 GMT -4
Oh, that excuses it. elohel
I could be way on the wrong track but looking at the info we know and the characters in the write-up, I can certainly see a mason team where one has already been implicated as 3rd party.
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Post by Buckson Gooch on Jun 19, 2013 11:46:38 GMT -4
There's a difference between you being right and you believing you're right Lie detect line: I am a town mason No idea how a cop got mason, but I would advise you to go back and make sure it wasn't saying I'm in a 3 person mason group. But surely your mason group knows one of them ain't town. Now that'd I'd want them to out themselves right now. Also less all knowing Stone, more that I thought APW handlers had moved on beyond that phase OOC, no matter your hilarious way of deflecting it but that's not about the game so I'ma drop it. It took me a second to understand what Phil was talking about. But I think I've got it. Stone, you haven't denied being a Mason. I believe you are town. You are playing a very town game. I've seen you play multiple games on multiple sites. If you are a Mason, can you clear the people you are with? Are you certain they are town as well? Who can you clear? I believe Rowynn is scum. So a lynch there knocks one scummer down. I believe Fury is telling the truth about your role. If you can clear others, we could end up making a solid list of cleared people. I have an informative role, but I got nothing last night. I'd like to not waste it by finding townies by the means of my role. I'm not fishing, I'm just going for what Phil is. Let's get the information we have out there on who can be cleared.
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Post by Phil Atken on Jun 19, 2013 11:46:53 GMT -4
The Starr thing is pretty strong with the hopes if he didn't pop up, it'd blow over, I'm willing to go that way too but I dunno, as odd as Fury's info has popped up, it has arrived and I'm always willing to go with the concrete over the speculation as far as furthering our discussions goes.
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Post by Rowyn Starr on Jun 19, 2013 11:49:36 GMT -4
My coding was just that, an honest mistake. Just like everyone else, I'm trying to piece together what's going on.
I'm really suspicious of Gordon Fury. He was the first person to try to muddy the waters as a result of my coding screw-up and now the whole role issue makes me think he's either just plain crazy for admitting it or crazy like a fox to throw off suspicion.
Vote: Gordon Fury
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Post by Phil Atken on Jun 19, 2013 11:49:41 GMT -4
But surely your mason group knows one of them ain't town. Now that'd I'd want them to out themselves right now. Also less all knowing Stone, more that I thought APW handlers had moved on beyond that phase OOC, no matter your hilarious way of deflecting it but that's not about the game so I'ma drop it. It took me a second to understand what Phil was talking about. But I think I've got it. Stone, you haven't denied being a Mason. I believe you are town. You are playing a very town game. I've seen you play multiple games on multiple sites. If you are a Mason, can you clear the people you are with? Are you certain they are town as well? Who can you clear? I believe Rowynn is scum. So a lynch there knocks one scummer down. I believe Fury is telling the truth about your role. If you can clear others, we could end up making a solid list of cleared people. I have an informative role, but I got nothing last night. I'd like to not waste it by finding townies by the means of my role. I'm not fishing, I'm just going for what Phil is. Let's get the information we have out there on who can be cleared. I dunno Gooch, the defense of "maybe he misread that I'm the 3rd mason" is an odd counter-argument. I've never seen masons ranked before. But yeah, I think we have the same line of thought right now.
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Post by Matt Stone on Jun 19, 2013 11:50:03 GMT -4
The problem with outing my mason buddies Gooch is it makes them a target. Of course, they can out themselves and I can confirm them upon doing so, but some of them have very pro-town roles as well and not sure it's worth making them a target without them agreeing to it.
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Post by Phil Atken on Jun 19, 2013 11:50:28 GMT -4
My coding was just that, an honest mistake. Just like everyone else, I'm trying to piece together what's going on. I'm really suspicious of Gordon Fury. He was the first person to try to muddy the waters as a result of my coding screw-up and now the whole role issue makes me think he's either just plain crazy for admitting it or crazy like a fox to throw off suspicion. Vote: Gordon Fury Well, this is the scummiest thing I've read all thread.
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Post by Gordon Fury on Jun 19, 2013 11:51:06 GMT -4
STONE IS THIRD PARTY! I don't know how to be any more clear than right now. God damn it lol.
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Post by Phil Atken on Jun 19, 2013 11:51:07 GMT -4
The problem with outing my mason buddies Gooch is it makes them a target. Of course, they can out themselves and I can confirm them upon doing so, but some of them have very pro-town roles as well and not sure it's worth making them a target without them agreeing to it. Don't out them, just let us know if you were confirmed to each other by your role or if it was left open.
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Post by Matt Stone on Jun 19, 2013 11:54:44 GMT -4
The problem with outing my mason buddies Gooch is it makes them a target. Of course, they can out themselves and I can confirm them upon doing so, but some of them have very pro-town roles as well and not sure it's worth making them a target without them agreeing to it. Don't out them, just let us know if you were confirmed to each other by your role or if it was left open. I know their roles, unless they lied about them. Alignment I just kind of assumed since we're masons. I don't know their characters, either, so they could be in the write-up.
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Post by Matt Stone on Jun 19, 2013 11:55:40 GMT -4
My coding was just that, an honest mistake. Just like everyone else, I'm trying to piece together what's going on. I'm really suspicious of Gordon Fury. He was the first person to try to muddy the waters as a result of my coding screw-up and now the whole role issue makes me think he's either just plain crazy for admitting it or crazy like a fox to throw off suspicion. Vote: Gordon Fury Please tell me the town read this.
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Post by Phil Atken on Jun 19, 2013 11:58:03 GMT -4
So yeah, I'm tied up tomorrow. I'm pretty sure I have a good idea what is going on with the mason group but that can always wait because we have time to discuss it more and it's not like Fury's info will disappear into the ether. I was saying I wanted something concrete to vote for Starr and welp, Starr posted the scummiest damn thing.
unvote
Vote: Rowyn Starr
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Post by A.C. Smith on Jun 19, 2013 12:00:22 GMT -4
My coding was just that, an honest mistake. Just like everyone else, I'm trying to piece together what's going on. I'm really suspicious of Gordon Fury. He was the first person to try to muddy the waters as a result of my coding screw-up and now the whole role issue makes me think he's either just plain crazy for admitting it or crazy like a fox to throw off suspicion. Vote: Gordon Fury Rowyn, I was one of your defenders in the whole coding situation, and I said outright that coding was not nearly enough to convince me to vote for you. However, this? This is a bit more than that. FOS: Rowyn StarrI don't know if Fury is right about Stone. Him not checking himself night one for his own sanity is highly questionable, and like Jennings/JamesV, I'm puzzled by the thought of a third party mason group, which I've never seen in a game before. What we know is that he's outed himself as some sort of a cop, and this seems like an attempt by the scum to get the cop out of the game on day two and rob the town of a key player.
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Post by Phil Atken on Jun 19, 2013 12:06:48 GMT -4
A. C., if I'm right, it's less that there's a 3rd party mason group and more that there's a 3rd party IN a mason group, which is slightly different. Purely all conjecture on my part though.
Starr's post just strikes me as prodding for the scum team to get him involved in the thread and in response he did... well that.
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Post by Rowyn Starr on Jun 19, 2013 12:06:58 GMT -4
If you think that what I just said was scummy, then the people who are scum can relax. They're not going to get caught.
If you're wanting me to show proof that I'm not scum, I can't. If I had something to offer that would save me from being lynched, I'd offer it up to you. But I don't. Right now, my vote is based on my own gut instinct and with what I've read over the entire thread. I have no way of being able to find out anything about anyone.
Investigate me if you wish. I have no problem with that.
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Post by Buckson Gooch on Jun 19, 2013 12:09:41 GMT -4
The problem with outing my mason buddies Gooch is it makes them a target. Of course, they can out themselves and I can confirm them upon doing so, but some of them have very pro-town roles as well and not sure it's worth making them a target without them agreeing to it. Good call. When I was a mason with Talon over in CRW, we were town and had no ability other than being able to talk to each other. If they have pro-town roles, not outing them is a good idea. I didn't think about roles going with masons.
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Post by Phil Atken on Jun 19, 2013 12:15:48 GMT -4
To me, masons with roles leads me the believe there probably is more to it. Otherwise, they'd be quite powerful. They're not confirmed to each other either, beyond their own conversations but we'll see how it develops.
Starr: Your gut instinct is to lynch the claimed cop? I'd book a doctors appointment.
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Post by Buckson Gooch on Jun 19, 2013 12:16:23 GMT -4
If you think that what I just said was scummy, then the people who are scum can relax. They're not going to get caught. If you're wanting me to show proof that I'm not scum, I can't. If I had something to offer that would save me from being lynched, I'd offer it up to you. But I don't. Right now, my vote is based on my own gut instinct and with what I've read over the entire thread. I have no way of being able to find out anything about anyone. Investigate me if you wish. I have no problem with that. I will take my vote off of you if you can answer this. Are you a vanilla townie or a commuter? That's an awfully brave charge to ask someone to investigate you...unless you have nothing or can't be investigated.
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Post by Phil Atken on Jun 19, 2013 12:18:26 GMT -4
To me, it's the normal plea of a scum being caught and trying to buy himself a day in the hopes they can get together and form a new gameplan.
...okay, I'm going to stop posting now because I am consuming this game. Sorry, I've had a quiet afternoon.
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Post by A.C. Smith on Jun 19, 2013 12:18:49 GMT -4
If you think that what I just said was scummy, then the people who are scum can relax. They're not going to get caught. If you're wanting me to show proof that I'm not scum, I can't. If I had something to offer that would save me from being lynched, I'd offer it up to you. But I don't. Right now, my vote is based on my own gut instinct and with what I've read over the entire thread. I have no way of being able to find out anything about anyone. Investigate me if you wish. I have no problem with that. I will take my vote off of you if you can answer this. Are you a vanilla townie or a commuter? That's an awfully brave charge to ask someone to investigate you...unless you have nothing or can't be investigated. Or unless he's scum and planning to kill Fury tonight, thinking he's the only one who could investigate him.
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Post by Rowyn Starr on Jun 19, 2013 12:19:23 GMT -4
I'm a vanilla townie, Gooch. Like I said, I've got no problem with someone investigating me if they wish to do so.
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Post by Matt Stone on Jun 19, 2013 12:21:11 GMT -4
I find it odd that there would be a straight vanilla townie in this game, but that could just be me.
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Post by A.C. Smith on Jun 19, 2013 12:24:03 GMT -4
I'm a vanilla townie, Gooch. Like I said, I've got no problem with someone investigating me if they wish to do so. This, I don't buy. VOTE: Rowyn StarrAt best, going after a presumed town cop is a bad, BAD play. At worst, he's scum who overplayed his hand early in the game. I wasn't convinced when the whole coding thing happened, and there's no way to be 100% sure of a lynch this early in the game, but I feel solid on this.
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Post by Phil Atken on Jun 19, 2013 12:27:25 GMT -4
I will take my vote off of you if you can answer this. Are you a vanilla townie or a commuter? That's an awfully brave charge to ask someone to investigate you...unless you have nothing or can't be investigated. Or unless he's scum and planning to kill Fury tonight, thinking he's the only one who could investigate him. Or he's the Godfather. GOD DAMN IT. I CAN'T HELP MYSELF
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Post by Michael Jennings on Jun 19, 2013 12:32:28 GMT -4
TMarv and Havok are my other two suspects. I'm thinking one of them isn't town. Not going to state my reasons but after a re-read . Just wanted to throw that put there before I go offline.
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Post by Matt Stone on Jun 19, 2013 12:36:11 GMT -4
Rebel has also been quite quiet today. Anyone know his situation?
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